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Posted: 10/2/2012 5:57:58 PM
Have you discussed this today? I just saw a segment on the NBC news about this woman and wondered what the Peas would say.

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Posted: 10/2/2012 6:08:10 PM
Good for her for speaking out. She makes some excellent points.

I have a good friend who is a news anchor and it is absolutely unbelievable what viewers think they have the right to comment on. They just have no common decency. As much as I love the internet, for so many reasons, it has turned us into a society where it's fair game to say literally anything because it's so easy to hide. Most people would NEVER have the audacity to say to a person's face the garbage they say through a keyboard.

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Posted: 10/2/2012 6:54:19 PM

Most people would NEVER have the audacity to say to a person's face the garbage they say through a keyboard.


Yup, yup and yup!

The emails I get as part of my job ... people are just emboldened by what they perceive, on some level, as their anonymity. I mean, they sign their names, but it's something about not having to say what they're saying to someone's face that really makes them forget basic decency.



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Posted: 10/2/2012 6:57:12 PM
This is a story local to me. I think what she did is amazing! There's no way I would have been able to do it. As for the e-mailer...I cannot believe someone had the balls to do that. His responses have shown that he's just clueless and a douche waffle.


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Posted: 10/2/2012 7:10:17 PM
I thought she was awesome!


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Posted: 10/2/2012 7:11:34 PM
She is fabulous!

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Posted: 10/2/2012 8:17:32 PM
Freakin' AWESOME!



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Posted: 10/2/2012 8:32:10 PM
I just saw this on Facebook.

Good for her!!!!


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Posted: 10/2/2012 8:33:53 PM

Most people would NEVER have the audacity to say to a person's face the garbage they say through a keyboard.



ITA.

We see it on this board every day. I'll bet some of the biggest mouths here are the most non-confrontational cowards IRL and this gives them a platform to spew.


OK. Newbie. This is how it works. If your post consists of 80% sanity, 10% stupidity and 10% all kinds of crazy, we immediately focus on the 20% b/c it discredits the 80%.




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Posted: 10/2/2012 8:36:35 PM
Good for her! I hope others who have suffered the taunts of bullies hear her loud and clear.


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Posted: 10/2/2012 10:32:10 PM
Well baths is right. IRL I bite my tongue soooooo much compared to on here. I think the difference is that on here ppl are asking for opinions. IRL most people don't want my damn opinion. Lol


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Posted: 10/2/2012 10:41:18 PM
I love what she said!

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Posted: 10/2/2012 11:15:21 PM
This breaks my heart. She handled it so well.

I'm so tired of all the fat shaming going on. The internet can be a cruel place.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 1:34:27 AM
She is my new Hero. BTW, never mind the Internet, what about the Trolls one table away at a scrapping event criticising others at clearly audible volume? They, like the emailer to the Newscaster in the OP, must be sincerely unhappy people in order to get their jollies this way.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 2:37:00 AM
What a classy lady - she handled that so well, so eloquently and powerfully and in doing so will have so much more impact than the man who emailed her.

Nicely done.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:01:51 AM
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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:21:29 AM
Based on what he actually said - I wouldn't say it was bullying. What he gave was an opinion, one that he should have kept to himself.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:30:07 AM
I loved what she said and the overall message that it's OK to be you, however you are, and I think it's great that she stood up and said something at all. But, I don't think this was bullying, and to call it so, cheapens what's really happening to kids who are bullied. I think he's rude and it's really none of his business, but I don't think he was doing this to get a rise out of her or to hurt her, he genuinely thought he was doing her a favor.

Now, if he had emailed her and called her a fat slob, that would have been a different story to me. Or, if he were posting on the station's FB page that they need to get rid of the fat newscaster because she's ugly (which she's not!). That's bullying. It's done to get a rise or a reaction out of someone and to hurt their feelings.

And FTR, I look a whole lot like her, so I truly know where she's coming from.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:34:08 AM
I agree with the last 2 posters, it's not bullying. She only quoted 2 of his words and those words made it seem like he was citing her weight as a health issue.




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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:35:00 AM
She was being bullied. She was told she was fat and because she was fat she was a bad example. That is unnecessary. She was just doing her job. She wasn't saying you should be like her.



Did you hear the guy that emailed her issued a statement saying she she use this to help her lose the weight. He would guide her.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:58:39 AM
She spent the first half of her speech talking about how hurtful his words were and that they were bullying, then she said his words didn't hurt her. She talked about being a good example to her three daughters by standing up to bullying, but trying to discredit the emailer's opinion of the example she sets with her health.

Given that, I have no idea what she really believes or wants. The emailer was rude, for sure. I think she spent a lot of time making a topic she says is no one's business but her own, everyone's business.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:03:54 AM

Did you hear the guy that emailed her issued a statement saying she she use this to help her lose the weight. He would guide her.





It would be nice if you had included all of what he said not just a 'tantalizing tidbit'.

"Given this country's present epidemic of obesity and the many truly horrible diseases related thereto, and considering Jennifer Livingston's fortuitous position in the community, I hope she will finally take advantage of a rare and golden opportunity to influence the health and psychological well-being of Coulee Region children by transforming herself for all of her viewers to see over the next year, and, to that end, I would be absolutely pleased to offer Jennifer any advice or support she would be willing to accept."



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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:09:46 AM
Come to think of it - this is the pot calling the kettle black. He emailed her privately - she went PUBLIC with it. And his name was released for all and sundry. She used the news station as her personal platform (as another journalist stated in a radio interview). It wasn't even a segment on 'bullying' - it was all about her with some words for others thrown in at the end. I think it was more of a lash-out than a lesson.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:12:23 AM
That was the email??? Holy crap that is nice! Sorry she might as well hold up a sign and say "I'm fat and I'm proud". He did not bully her. If anything he's offering his personal training/nutritional training services to her free of charge and her public transformation would be an inspiration to both her views and her daughters.




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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:14:02 AM
Annabella - that is not the original email. That was his response.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:20:11 AM
As someone that needs to lose (more) weight, I will go with not bullying too. His letter to her was downright "polite" in places. It was rude for sure, but I didn't find that he was bullying her.

I imagine she got REALLY pissed when she read the part where she's not a good example for young women - being the mother of 3 girls.

Was it an appropriate thing for him to say? no, not really. However, if she wants to be on tv on a regular basis, she's opening herself up to criticism based on her looks - which has gone on for YEARS (ask Oprah). Not that it's right, but that doesn't mean it's not a reality.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:22:08 AM

The email reads: "Hi Jennifer, It's unusual that I see your morning show, but I did so for a very short time today. I was surprised indeed to witness that your physical condition hasn't improved for many years. Surely you don't consider yourself a suitable example for this community's young people, girls in particular."

The viewer continues to write: "Obesity is one of the worst choices a person can make and one of the most dangerous habits to maintain. I leave you this note hoping that you'll reconsider your responsibility as a local public personality to present and promote a healthy lifestyle."



Ok well it starts off bad, but the second paragraph is the truth. It's not bullying, just another opinion she can file in the trash can if she doesn't feel like changing her lifestyle. Newscasters get emails all the time with people saying they don't like how they are dressed or styled on air, their look is their brand, it comes with the territory. If she can't handle it, have an intern read her email and delete things before she gets to it.




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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:35:56 AM
I do not feel this was bullying either. Rude, yet. Maybe even obnoxious. But not bullying.

I feel that nowadays people are trying to label a lot of situations as bullying when they really are not.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:36:53 AM
1. I think his email was just short of bullying to be honest.

2. I think he is a rude ass.

3. She had every right to respond to him, on air. If it's OK for anyone to criticize her, it's OK for her to respond to said criticism.

4. His response to this is quite snide. Sure, I bet she is just dying to ask him for weight loss advice.... Yep, I stand by my point up there in number two.. What an ass indeed.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:37:54 AM

Come to think of it - this is the pot calling the kettle black. He emailed her privately - she went PUBLIC with it. And his name was released for all and sundry. She used the news station as her personal platform (as another journalist stated in a radio interview). It wasn't even a segment on 'bullying' - it was all about her with some words for others thrown in at the end. I think it was more of a lash-out than a lesson.


This is what I was thinking yesterday. Sure he should have kept his comment to himself, but she was no better than he was by going public with it and using her job to get back at him.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:38:30 AM
As the mother of a child who doesn't fit the stereotypical body image for her age, I applaud this woman...and equally...her husband, who got the ball rolling.

My daughter is probably one of the most fit kids her age. She is constantly active, has very little down time and is about as strong as an 11 year old girl can be. She plays softball, basketball, volleyball and flag football. She also is involved in gymnastics and a host of other activities that keep her on the move.

But she has a thicker build than most girls her age. She can't wear the itty bitty little clothes designed for her peer group and every morning I watch it break her heart a little bit more...because she looks in the mirror and instead of seeing all the attributes I named above, she sees someone who doesn't fit the mold...because someone has told her that the 'mold' is what you're supposed to fit. That's crazy.

Then you have assholes like this who think they can look at her and guess her lifestyle. They make her doubt herself and the chip away at her self esteem with tidbits of useless and unwanted advice on how she can make herself 'better'.

Screw them. Screw him. And yay for this lady and her husband and her colleagues...who took it upon themselves to set the record straight.

It doesn't matter who she is, what her job is, how public she is or what useless criteria some jackass off the street thinks she needs to meet...he has NO right to make judgments or offer his advice.

You know what she's doing for the young women who view her? Contrary to this guy's uneducated, self absorbed and SHALLOW opinion? She's portraying an image of profession and intelligence to young women who wish to contribute MORE to the world than just what they look like. Good for her. Shame on him.

Shame on anyone who thinks a person's value and ability to influence is restricted to the number on the scale or the perceived beauty given to them by people who, obviously, have much less to offer.

Good for her.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:40:12 AM
I thought that we had established on previous threads that bullying is systematic. As this was his first letter to her, while it was mean, I don't think that it meets the definition of bullying.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:43:40 AM
As for bullying...maybe not in the typical sense...but bullying comes in all forms and it can be saturated in kindness, but to the person who is on the receiving end, who didn't ask for it...it adds up to the same thing.

Besides, when are we, as a society, going to decide that these kind of unsolicited offers of advice are unacceptable? And I do wonder how many emails the MEN in her office have received about their physical characteristics?


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:45:25 AM

Ok well it starts off bad, but the second paragraph is the truth. It's not bullying, just another opinion she can file in the trash can if she doesn't feel like changing her lifestyle.


ITA.

It's a fine line between accepting people as they are, and recognizing that obesity IS a problem in this nation.

Definitely not his place to point out that she's obese, but he wasn't lying, either.

Still, I love that she gave it to him publicly. Bet he wasn't expecting to hear his words broadcast to the world!!!


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:46:47 AM

Besides, when are we, as a society, going to decide that these kind of unsolicited offers of advice are unacceptable?
They are unacceptable. They just aren't bullying.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:50:25 AM
I think it's ironic that his offering of his opinion is acceptable because it was done privately and her defending it was wrong because it was done publicly.

He was hoping to hit her hard or he wouldn't have sent the email. She was hoping to return a hard hit. I think she did her job as well.

The thing is, her message back wasn't 'I'm not fat, don't call me that'...her message back was telling someone who doesn't know her, hasn't spent five minutes with her and has no idea anything about her, that he doesn't have the RIGHT or the FAMILIARITY to offer such advice. Both were speaking the truth, one was just a little more right than the other.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:59:47 AM
Good for her. She responded to an email as she does regularly, and delivered a well thought out response. She was attacked personally and professionally. This was bullying, and I can't understand how anyone could see it differently.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:04:40 AM

This was bullying, and I can't understand how anyone could see it differently.
Because, by definition, bullying is systematic or repeated attacks. It was mean. It was assholian. It was not bullying.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:11:58 AM

This was bullying, and I can't understand how anyone could see it differently.
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Because, by definition, bullying is systematic or repeated attacks. It was mean. It was assholian. It was not bullying.


I have to agree. The OED definition of bullying is person who uses strength or influence to harm or intimidate those who are weaker: and that wasn't the case here.

100% agree with Dalai Mama that it was rude, misplaced, not asked for and all those other things but not bullying.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:15:32 AM
It's easy to define this as not being bullying when it's not you who received the email. Bullying can happen both privately and in public.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:21:18 AM

This was bullying, and I can't understand how anyone could see it differently.
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Because, by definition, bullying is systematic or repeated attacks. It was mean. It was assholian. It was not bullying.


I also think that intent is a big part of bullying. A bully bullies to get a reaction and to be mean. This man genuinely feels he is providing her and their community service by suggesting she improve her health. It didn't come from a mean place and the intent wasn't to hurt her. It's rude and uncalled for, and none of his business but not bullying.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:24:48 AM
I heard her response and I think that she handled herself well. She was calm and concise she did not let emotions get the best of her. She made several valid points. She showed self confidence and poise. And yes by her example that she gave in that piece I WOULD want her to be an example for my DD.

Him on the other hand is not someone whom I want as an example for my children.

If he repeats his crappy way to converse on the issue then yes it will be bullying. He comes right up to the line and is quite rude an hurtful in his expression of his opinion, which it seems like he has given his opinion for no other reason than to sound superior. I do see how or why she labels it bullying. He's got an assish way of expressing himself on this subject.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:27:31 AM

It's easy to define this as not being bullying when it's not you who received the email. Bullying can happen both privately and in public.


A definition doesn't change depending on whether you've experienced it or not. She may have been insulted, offended, upset but it still doesn't mean she was being bullied.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:30:28 AM

It's easy to define this as not being bullying when it's not you who received the email. Bullying can happen both privately and in public.


I have received plenty of hurtful and unsolicited comments for my size. Which happens to be the opposite of hers. I thought they were hurtful and sometimes mean but I didn't jump to 'that person's a bully'.


I think it's ironic that his offering of his opinion is acceptable because it was done privately and her defending it was wrong because it was done publicly.



Um... where did people say it was okay?? We didn't say it was acceptable for him to give her his opinion and it is STILL wrong that she publicly blasted him and his name was released. 4 minutes on the news for her personal venting? 4 minutes is a big deal as some other journalists have said.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:37:38 AM

She was calm and concise she did not let emotions get the best of her.


Yeah... um... it's not like she could act like a raving lunatic on the air especially at her place of employment. Watch her body language and her hand with the pointing finger. She was holding back because she had to.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:39:36 AM
I'm another one who wouldn't call the original e-mail bullying. Rude, yes. Hurtful? Yes, although I'm not sure he intended it that way. None of his business? Definitely.

I thought the message she sent out to young people was an excellent one, and I'm glad she turned the hurtful e-mail into something positive. I'm not sure I agree with publicly posting the e-mail and releasing the sender's name, though.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:40:15 AM

It's easy to define this as not being bullying when it's not you who received the email. Bullying can happen both privately and in public.
Conversely, it's easy to misdefine it as bullying when it's your feelings that are being stepped on.


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