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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:38:36 AM
So at my work, we are very very luck to have a yearly holiday party, it is a big one, at fancy locations, sit down meal with huge prizes, entertainment and dancing. Along with this you are welcome to bring a guest. If you are working that night the company will then,instead of the party, give you a very generous gift card to a very nice restaurant.

So a co worker, who had been known to be a little out there, told me this week the company has to let her bring her two teenage daughters as her guests. That is would be unfair of them not to allow it. She did actually say that the company owes her as she never went to the party all the other years. But she was working, so got big gift cards instead.

SO I told her flat out, the company owes you nothing, they don't have to have this FREE event for us, they do not have to give you a huge gift card if you have to work. They basically could just forget it all and what could we say really. So she was mad at me how dare I suggest she was not entitled to bring her two daughters. So she wrote to management to tell them what she wanted, and the poor person in charge is having a hard time dealing with this. It is not her department this person is from.

So basically this greedy so and so is pissing me off.

Am I off base here?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:39:44 AM
you are 100% correct

it blows my mind sometimes what some folks feel entitled to


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:42:38 AM
You are not off base, she is.

She's entitled to bring one guest. ONE. And if she had any sense, she'd know that a big work party as you've described it is not the place to bring kids, period. Some companies have a family-friendly work party, but yours sounds like a distinctly adult-oriented affair.

She's an idiot and a whiner. Ignore her.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:45:12 AM
Next year when your party is cancelled because management doesn't want to deal with entitled rotten employees like her be sure to blame her.

ETA - especially if she lets them drink, no company will allow themselves to be liable for that and its consequences


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:45:50 AM
and yes it is very adult open bar and she is the type to allow her underage teens to drink, she has mentioned going "out" with them before. It is just I can totally see her showing up with both, tables are not set, you sit where you want so there is sure to be empty seats you know?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:48:32 AM
Consider yourself validated. Hopefully management doesn't cave. Some people have a lot of nerve, don't they?




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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:53:46 AM
Be prepared for this to be the last event your company hosts.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:55:47 AM
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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:56:27 AM

So she wrote to management to tell them what she wanted, and the poor person in charge is having a hard time dealing with this.

Exactly the kind of attitude that gets these parties cancelled altogether.

DH's company has a similar party. DH doesn't really care about going but we did go one year. The invitation clearly states it is for the employee and a guest as well as stating that it is an adult party.

About 1.5 years ago, they brought on a new CEO. Last year, they moved the Christmas party to a different location and made it a family friendly party. We didn't go. We don't have young kids anymore and were not interested in spending a Saturday at a party with a million kids running around. This year, the party is back at the old location and back to an all adult party so I guess the change the new CEO tried to make didn't go over well.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:04:32 AM
oh the company also hosts a kids party, which seriously is taken advantage of. We are told one guest and our kids, well people show up with their whole family, grandma, grandpa, cousins neighbors and their kids friends and the company does nothing to stop that, but then again it's kids and a buffet, this diner is way more adult. But I cannot see it being cancelled, honestly they go above and beyond.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:22:11 AM
The company my husband works for only allows employees. No guests at all.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:24:26 AM
see that is what I mean, we are given so much they owe us nothing, this is one of the huge things about our company that people don't get. We may not love it here, but darn it we don't get a lot of great perks!


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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:27:31 AM
Of course you are wrong!!!

NOT!!!!!

What an asshat she is. This is one of many reasons companies give up and do nothing. Ugh.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:31:34 AM

Consider yourself validated. Hopefully management doesn't cave. Some people have a lot of nerve, don't they?


This.


Be prepared for this to be the last event your company hosts.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:44:04 AM
There is your management's out: "Sorry, only 21 and older allowed."


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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:50:17 AM
no age will not matter, we have younger people working here and the legal age to drink is 19 I think ( can you tell I'm old, not sure if it is actually 18)


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:09:31 PM

So she wrote to management to tell them what she wanted, and the poor person in charge is having a hard time dealing with this.
that's the kind of letter that gets you laid off first in most companies. Hope the free meal is worth it.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:23:59 PM
Uggg...I used to plan the holiday parties at my old job and this situation always came up. I had one employee try and bring his whole family who was in for the holidays. We are talking 12 people.

I finally made it quite clear on the invite that only the employee and one guest were allowed. I still got calls and just told the employee no. The person in charge at your office needs to stick to their guns and just say nope, only one guest. If the lady doesn't like it, then don't come at all. She should be grateful your company still does anything. It is very expensive.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:35:49 PM

The company my husband works for only allows employees. No guests at all

I personally like this. I find that when people bring a date they are with their date all night (saying hi here or there but tending to their date), verses the people that come alone socialize with the other employees and are just more social. And really it's a party to celebrate your co-workers and have a togetherness event, it's not open season to get drunk plus you'd have more fun dancing the night away with your significant other someplace else




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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:44:04 PM

Next year when your party is cancelled because management doesn't want to deal with entitled rotten employees like her be sure to blame her.


This.

Your employer is very generous.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:48:08 PM
Your post is timely, I received this email just this week. IT's A JOKE, no offense intended!


Company memo
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director TO: All Employees
DATE: October 1, 2012
RE: Gala Christmas Party
I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take place on December 23rd, starting at noon in the private function room at the Grill House.
There will be a cash bar and plenty of drinks! We'll have a small band playing traditional carols… Feel free to sing along. And don't be surprised if our CEO shows up dressed as Santa Claus!
A Christmas tree will be lit at 1:00 PM. Exchanges of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over $10.00 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pockets.
This gathering is only for employees!
Our CEO will make a special announcement at that time!
Merry Christmas to you and your family,
Patty
________________________________________
Company Memo
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 2, 2012
RE: Gala Holiday Party
In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognise that Hanukkah is an important holiday, which often coincides with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year.
However, from now on, we're calling it our Holiday Party. The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians and to those still celebrating Reconciliation Day.
There will be no Christmas tree and no Christmas carols will be sung.
We will have other types of music for your enjoyment.
Happy now?
Happy Holidays to you and your family,
Patty
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Company Memo
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 3, 2012
RE: Holiday Party
Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table, you didn't sign your name.
I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, 'AA Only', you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to handle this?
Somebody?
And sorry, but forget about the gift exchange, no gifts are allowed since the union members feel that $10.00 is too much money and the executives believe $10.00 is a little chintzy.
REMEMBER: NO GIFTS EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
Patty
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Company Memo
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
To: All Employees
DATE: October 4, 2012
RE: Generic Holiday Party
What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20th begins the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours.
There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees beliefs. Perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party or else package everything for you to take it home in a little foil doggy baggy. Will that work?
Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from the dessert buffet, and pregnant women will get the table closest to the restrooms.
Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not have to sit with Gay men - each group will have their own table.
Yes, there will be flower arrangement for the Gay men's table.
To the person asking permission to cross dress, the Grill House asks that no cross-dressing be allowed, apparently because of concerns about confusion in the restrooms. Sorry.
We will have booster seats for short people.
Low-fat food will be available for those on a diet.
I am sorry to report that we cannot control the amount of salt used in the food . The Grill House suggests that people with high blood pressure taste a bite first.
There will be fresh low sugar fruits as dessert for diabetics, but the restaurant cannot supply no sugar desserts. Sorry!
Did I miss anything?!?!?
Patty
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Company Memo
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All F*%^ing Employees
DATE: October 5, 2012
RE: The F*%^ing Holiday Party
I've had it with you vegetarian jerks!!! We're going to keep this party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit quietly at the table furthest from the 'grill of death' as you so quaintly put it, and you'll get your f*%^ing salad bar, including organic tomatoes.
But you know, tomatoes have feelings, too. They scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right NOW!
The rest of you f*%^ing weirdos can kiss my *ss. I hope you all have a rotten holiday!
The B*tch from H*ll!!!
________________________________________
Company Memo
FROM: Joan Bishop, Acting Human Resources Director
DATE: October 6, 2012
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party
I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Patty Lewis a speedy recovery from her recent nervous breakdown and I'll continue to forward your cards to her at the hospital.
In the meantime, management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and give everyone the afternoon of the 23rd off with full pay.
Happy Whatever!
Joan



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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:02:43 PM
Oh scoobers That's the funniest thing I've read for a long time. I'm crying with laughter !

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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:43:25 PM

oh the company also hosts a kids party, which seriously is taken advantage of. We are told one guest and our kids, well people show up with their whole family, grandma, grandpa, cousins neighbors and their kids friends and the company does nothing to stop that, but then again it's kids and a buffet, this diner is way more adult. But I cannot see it being cancelled, honestly they go above and beyond.




We used to do a company picnic-type thing at an MLB game every summer, for employees and IMMEDIATE family. It deteriorated into "Why can't I bring my 2nd cousin's boyfriend's sister's kids if I want?" We no longer have it for pretty much this reason.






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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:05:52 PM
That person would be the first person on my staff reduction list the next time I was asked to reduce headcount.

First of all, who brings a teenager to a formal company event to begin with!? And then TWO of them? This woman doesn't have the sense of a snail!




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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:14:05 PM
You are in the right and she is the reason that many companies don't even try any more. You can't make everyone happy and why should she be able to bring two when everyone else brings one. If she is allowed to bring two then someone else will want to bring two and then pretty soon it will be family and then someone will want to bring their grandmother and you see where this is going. Nuts. I can't stand the entitlement she either brings one person or not of if she works she gets the gift card.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:14:59 PM
Personally, I think, if your company is able to afford two such generous blow out parties/picnics, it is obviously making too much money on their overpriced consumer goods/services....




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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:15:32 PM
I love that, Scoobers!

and yes, I think the party planner needs to stand her ground and tell the employee NO, for the good of all the employees.




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Posted: 11/15/2012 4:59:02 PM
I had to post again I loved those memos Scoobers those were really funny. Thanks for the laugh. I am so glad that I don't have to plan these things. I can't imagine trying to make everyone happy.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 5:00:02 PM
Lmao @scoobers post.

And to the Op. I have no words. Entitlement ?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 5:21:35 PM
You are right. She's crazy! I hope the company doesn't stop them or change them because of selfish people!

ha ha at the email, Dh got one similiar a year or two ago.They now have to call it the "holiday" party. They are not allowed to have a tree. It used to be a HUGE event now it's more like a small gathering.




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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:03:29 PM
Gimme gimme gimme...unfortunately that appears to be the way people are these days. It's sick and sad. I work with some of the same type people and it drives me nuts.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:35:33 PM
LOVE the company memo!


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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:42:33 PM
We have a 1 guest policy and don't encourage people to bring their kids. We tend to get a little carried away and mix liquor in there and it's not something kids need to be exposed to.

Hopefully, your management will just say they have to as hear to the policy for fairness to all.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:48:20 PM
It's this mentality that causes people to embezzle. How much time/money does she already steal from the company by taking personal calls or spending personal time on the Internet while the company is paying her to work?

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Posted: 11/15/2012 7:00:25 PM
Obviously someone that feels entitled and is certainly way out in left field. It is a company function and children do not belong there, especially if they're under 19 years of age. If it was an older adult child then you could certainly bring that individual as your +1. But nowhere is the invite extended to 2 extra persons. She sounds like a nut job and the party organizer has to stand firm, no waffling, and make sure the rules are observed.
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I wonder if your coworker will end up on the front page of the Toronto Star? The acorn lady yesterday (get rid of all the trees around the school because of kids with a nut allergy and they might get bullied with an acorn) and the haircut woman (wants to have her hair cut at a barber but it is against his religion to cut her hair so she is taking him to the Human Right Tribunal) today. That sounds like a perfect story for tomorrow.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 1:39:22 AM
Three things- 1. Validation 2. Entitlement 3. Scoobers!

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Posted: 11/16/2012 1:53:35 AM
YOu are not wrong. She is nuts!

A former co-worker of mine used to call her husband and invite him to our clinic for inservice lunches (no guests allowed), and upon ocassion invited her mother too! Said there was plenty of "free food" to feed her family. Some people go through life behaving this way and think it's fine. You will never convince them otherwise.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 3:02:03 AM

Gimme gimme gimme...unfortunately that appears to be the way people are these days. It's sick and sad

the world seems to be full of people like this. And some even encourage and promote it.





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Posted: 11/16/2012 5:28:01 AM
When I first my dh, people at his work used to put on the egg hunt and annual Christmas party. I think they were part of the union in some way, but these events were not "from work/employer" per se. They sold ham/turkey tickets I believe to raise money for these events, which were wonderful!

It was only for employee's children or grandchildren. Not cousins, etc. There were so many eggs on the hunts, that all you had to was walk into the hunt area and you picked up an egg. No kid should have been without more than one egg. (except my kid who cried, lol.). They even had a soda run for kids/adults age 13 and older. There were prizes for winners, but every kid received a very nice gift also.

The last Christmas party was fantastic. They had Santa and a kid dressed as an elf. There was food. There were gifts for each child. They were not cheap gifts either. There was door prizes for the adults. There were handmade stockings with goodies inside.

This was put on by volunteers who put this together and did all the work. The events were FREE.

Well, you had one to many complain, about who knows what, and guess what? No more events. Ruined it for those of us who appreciated the work of those volunteers.

The Chrismtas parties have stopped too. It was for the employee and one guest. You received a meal, drinks, dancing, and there was door prizes. One couple one year really needed a room. No more Christmas parties. Seriously? This may be free/minor fee, (I think we paid $10 each) and a party, but it is still "work" related. You do not get drunk or practically have sex on the dance floor or later in the women's bathroom. Thanks jerks for ruining it for the rest of us.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 5:49:57 AM
No.

DH's employer hosts similar events. There is always someone who will be feted in high style, handed spending cash to boot, and will still moan that it was too far to drive!

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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:23:21 AM
small update in OP


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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:25:38 AM
so I cannot edit it seems, so here is the short update.

*so small update the head manager was all "just let her" and the lady who was nervous said no way, that would make it so everyone will want to bring more people, so so far it is a no, I still want to see if she trys to sneak her in though, she is really mad at the company about not being allowed.


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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:36:09 AM
I agree with you that the company does not "owe" this employee a party to which she can bring her two daughters. However, I don't think I'd get worked up about her entitled attitude; I'd just give her my opinion and move on. And lucky for you to work for a company that treats its employees well!!

Just saw the update - I think your company did the right thing in telling her no. Out of curiosity, is she otherwise a good employee? I've noticed over the years that the most entitled people tend to be those who don't produce as much as others.

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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:43:09 AM
We used to have a catered picnic at a local park. It was family fun, until coworkers decided to have their family reunion there. What more could they want, free food, games, etc.



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