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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:19:00 PM
I just read this article regarding a child with a nut allergy and my jaw hit the floor.

I really do have empathy for families who suffer from allergies but this seems just outrageous to me. Is this pushing it too far? I would love for families in a similar situation (as presented in the article) to chime in because I really want to understand how this would be a good solution.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:22:42 PM
Bubble wrap the kid, it's cheaper.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:23:17 PM
I can't imagine what it's like to have a child with a life-threatening allergy, but this is going too far.

We can't allergy-proof the entire world.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:24:24 PM
I'm sorry - but I think this woman is completely nuts. (no pun intended)

I do understand how serious a nut allergy can be. I was involved in Girl Guides of Canada in a leadership capacity for almost 25 years. I had several girls over the years with a deadly allergy. We made changes to make our meetings safe for her.

But cutting down trees?

What is next? Banning the oak tree completely in the city?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:25:31 PM
It's stuff like this that make people think that nut allergies don't need to be taken seriously. Nut allergies can kill, but how about we let the trees be and teach your kid to stay away.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:28:08 PM
My ex DH was this allergic to bee stings--maybe we should get rid of all the bees

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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:30:24 PM
I have a kid that's THAT allergic to something. We accommodate her as best we can and hope for the best. She's 12. We've never had anything catastrophic happen to her.

The lady in the article is crazy. Seriously.

The answer, of course, is to educate your own children to be stewards of their own care.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:45:01 PM
That mom is crazy. I get the whole allergy thing but what kid eats acorns? How about you teach the child to stay away. Heck even my just turned 4 year old checks if it is soy before he drinks milk. If a child has an allergy they need to be taught to manage it from a very early age.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:54:14 PM

Question for Canadians - is it true that "in Canada there's an ultimate duty to accommodate"? Although I'm not clear if they would be accommodating a legitimate threat or a mother's paranoia.



The "ultimate duty to accommodate" does exist. However, what this entails varies from community to community. Most schools have ridiculous restrictions on what kids can bring for lunch. School cafeterias seem to be an American thing, I don't think many Canadian schools have them so we rely on lunches from home. One of my kids was asked not to bring anything that contained: gluten, legumes, tree nuts etc. I can't even remember what else. Crazy.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:01:10 PM
At the kindergarten orientation for our public school for my youngest, one mom asked if the playground had tanbark because her kid was allergic to tanbark and what would they do about it? Another asked if we had a security officer on site at all times. Yeah lady, the school can barely afford supplies and our class sizes are huge but we spring for a security gaurd.

May I suggest private school or home school?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:01:11 PM
At the kindergarten orientation for our public school for my youngest, one mom asked if the playground had tanbark because her kid was allergic to tanbark and what would they do about it? Another asked if we had a security officer on site at all times. Yeah lady, the school can barely afford supplies and our class sizes are huge but we spring for a security gaurd.

May I suggest private school or home school?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:01:17 PM
That is insane. Why can't they just stay out of that park? Would those trees even have an effect on that child (or anyone with a nut allergy)? I'm allergic to cats and dogs. Should I order that all my neighbors get rid of their beloved pets so that I can't accidentally get a whiff of their dander?



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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:13:48 PM
This is so ridiculous! I am so tired of parents expecting the entire world to adjust to the needs of their special snowflakes at the expense of all the other kids/people. Instead of banning peanut butter - teach your kids to avoid it or what to do when in contact with it. Same with the trees, so she'll cut these down and then what?? There oak trees everywhere else, should we all cut those too?? Disgusting!
I feel for people with deathly allergies, but I know quite a few of them personally and they all made it into their 30's despite PB&J sandwiches in school and peanuts in every food. If these people can do it so can all the other children. No need to bubblewrap anyone or anything, teach everyone how to deal with it instead.




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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:37:56 PM
My youngest was tested for allergies as a baby. He had horrible eczema and trouble breathing as a baby. Anyway, nut allergy was listed. He was given an epi pen and everything. So he's never had a reaction. When he started K, I put nut allergy down on his papers. Holy mother of god....poor kid was separated at the "nut table" and I was bombarded with emails every time snacks were provided. So in first grade, I didn't report a nut allergy. Then I got all kinds of calls about that! I'm still not sure if he'd have a reaction, but since he was old enough to talk, he has been able to say, "i'm allergic to nuts". I know that insn't the same as kids who are deathly allergic...I guess my point is, even with just what we were told, he was able to self manage from a very young age. I suspect he isn't allergic or isn't highly allergic cause we don't look at labels or anything. We take him to Cody's..where they have peanut shells all over the place. But now he will NOT eat anything with nuts or peanut butter. Which he probably wouldn't eat anyway..strange little bugger has never even tasted chocolate.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:39:39 PM

At the kindergarten orientation for our public school for my youngest, one mom asked if the playground had tanbark because her kid was allergic to tanbark and what would they do about it? Another asked if we had a security officer on site at all times. Yeah lady, the school can barely afford supplies and our class sizes are huge but we spring for a security gaurd.

May I suggest private school or home school?



I know right? I think we are on a slippery slope and it is full speed ahead. Where does reasonable end and crazy begin?

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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:40:02 PM
I have a hard time with this. My nephew (11) is allergic to tree nuts. I get that it's serious and I do everything I can to make sure I do not cook or serve anything with tree nuts when he is around and in fact do not buy tree nuts or cook with them at all anymore.

However I do not read labels on everything I buy as far as cross contamination (though I would before feeding it to him!). And in our house we still consume peanuts and peanut butter products. Because they are NOT a tree nut and he's been tested for peanuts several times and does NOT have a peanut allergy. But my sister freaks out if he's around either tree nuts or peanuts, as does he. Though as far as I know he's never HAD a reaction just from being around them.

I feel for her and him but the attitude is lately a bit much. We were in the grocery store together a few weeks ago and my nephew freaked out about getting in line as the lady in front of us had a jar of PEANUTS (the one's he's not allergic too) on the conveyor. Because my sister is sure that peanuts are often processed with tree nuts and cross contaminated. And I guess being near a jar of peanuts that MAY HAVE at some point been near a tree nut but hasn't been opened is deathly dangerous.

I don't know. I used to be totally sympathetic but both of their reactions to even mentioning people eating nuts or wanting to eat nuts or even their existence is getting to be ridiculous. Nuts are evil, why do people even want to eat them etc (much of this is from nephew, not sister). And I dearly love my sister and nephew but....lately it's getting to not just myself, but dh and dd.

So I don't know. I get the parents fear. And especially when it comes to elementary aged children that can't protect themselves as well and my not know what to do when exposed. But older children are better able to avoid items they are allergic to and know what to do when exposed (I hope). Of course I also feel they should be able to carry their epi-pens with them but I don't know if this school allows that.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:44:45 PM
Honestly while it would take some man power etc, instead of cutting down the trees, why don't they fence off that area and/or have a staff member responsible for picking up and discarding the acorns or watching to make sure kids stay away from it etc?

Why cut down perfectly good trees?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:51:24 PM
Acorns and tree nute allergies


More on acorns

Sounds like acorns do not cause problems in people with tree nuts.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:55:10 PM
All of my kids have food allergies and I am a double epi carrier. My dr had never had a patient as allergic as I am. All of that to say - that mom is nuts.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:07:55 PM
I can tell you that as much as we work hard to accommodate children with allergies at our school, if a parent asked us to cut down the giant oak tree on the playground at our school, they would be absolutely out of luck. Not going to happen.

We had a parent with a child so allergic to cats that if another child in the class had a cat and came to school with cat dander/hair on his person, then the allergic child would start to wheeze and have trouble breathing. That is the kind of allergy that you can't accommodate in a school setting.

So I will happily keep peanuts out of the classroom, ban tree nuts if there is an allergy, and recommend soy nut or sunflower seed butter to parents whose children love PB&J. That means my own daughter can't eat her Nutella sandwiches at school because a sweet little boy in her class has a severe tree nut allergy. It is what it is. It's fine.

But I can't eliminate all environmental allergies. I can't eliminate cat hair on the person of a child with a cat. I can't eliminate peanut residue on the hands of a child who had their PB&J for breakfast. I can't eliminate all molds and mildews in our 60-year-old building. I can't eliminate apples and carrots from the school in order to accommodate the child with allergies to those foods - I just have to take steps to limit that child's exposure to those foods.

It's a little like having a child in the school with a physical handicap. We have children every year with certain physical disabilities, but we are unable to accommodate a child with a mobility handicap preventing them from climbing stairs. We are in a four-story building built in the 1950s. We cannot physically retrofit this building for an elevator for under about $500,000. The ADA standard in our county only applies to buildings constructed or modified after 1990 - not buildings the age of ours. We are neither required nor able to retrofit our building for full accessibility. So there are some people whose needs cannot be accommodated in our physical plant. Similarly, there are some people whose needs cannot be fully accommodated by our allergy policy.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:15:04 PM
Holy cripes...this is so wrong. Keep the kid away from the oak trees or move. Geez. You need to adapt to the world around you, not the other way around.
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