TMI: DS (2 1/2) needs to poo, it's been several days...
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:31:45 AM
DS, 2 1/2, took on using the potty on his own. He pees fine, poo is slower going - meaning he'll hold it for days. I was not looking to rush into using the potty, he literally started this on his own. Problem is he will go a few days with no poo and then finally do it. However, this time it has been almost a week now. He is not in pain, is not complaining or anything. He sits to try with no success. I am just worried. I will probably call in today to find out what steps to take. I was hoping to not have to do this and make it traumatic. Any tips? I am at a loss. This never happened with DD.


Thanks!!

PS -- I even put him in a diaper (against him wanting) and told him to use that, he won't.



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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:34:07 AM
Oh dear. He has to be constipated by now, after a week! So even if he's allowed to go in a diaper, he probably can't. What would you normally use for constipation for your kids?

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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:36:30 AM
Poo comes along with eating peaches, plums, prunes, apple juice.

Make sure he stays well hydrated, the longer it sits in there, the harder it will be coming out.

Take advantage of the natural urge to go about 1/2 hr after meals. Take time to go "sit" and do nothing but read or book or something on the potty. Otherwise they focus on holding and not going.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:38:27 AM
I've never experienced this, constipation (me or kids). He's been allowed to go in anything (diaper, undies or toilet) at any point, he chooses to do this. There is no negativity or consequences or anything -- he simply holds it. I don't know how to help him not do that It makes me sad for him.

I'll call in when they open.



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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:41:39 AM
Maybe you can give him something that makes him gassy, that'll get him started.

Poor kiddo.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:50:16 AM
I would start giving him stool softeners or a laxative like Miralax.

Not sure what a pediatric dose would be; your doctor can advise you. I've seen this with kids. They don't like pooping, so they hold it. They get constipated, and when they finally go, it hurts. Because it hurts, they hold it and become constipated, and a cycle starts.

Avoid that cycle in the future by giving him lots of fruit and veggies and keeping him hydrated. No more than 24 ounces of milk a day.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:56:32 AM
My ds did this when he trained too. He easily trained #1 at 2.5 in a couple of days. #2 wasn't as easy. I put him in a diaper at nap and bedtime and he would go in that most the time. I was fine with that because I knew it might take longer. But if he needed to go and it wasn't a time he had a diaper on (nap or bedtime) than he would either hold it or sometimes go in his pants. I was OK with it and tried not to make an issue of it. I didn't want to make IT an issue. It just took him longer. It took him time to be more comfortable with it. He built on success, relaxed over time and within a few months was easy breezy. If I were you at this point I would be pushing fluids, juice and foods that might help bring that one. I would bring up the topic to help remind him and encourage him to do it. If you find talking about it just makes it more of an issue than do it less but I still would and do it on a positive, light, matter of fact, cheery note.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:16:12 AM
I believe my DD was about that age when we started giving her 1 tsp of Miralax occasionally to help, but I would check with your Ped.

It is an awful cycle




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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:25:40 AM
After trying different foods and plenty of fluids I tried an old 'tried and true' mommy trick. I was desperate. My dd was miserable. It had been a week since she had a bowel movement. All it took was a Q-tip, some Vaseline, and a little stimulation. Sounds odd, but it worked.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:28:57 AM
Prune or apple juice, plenty of water. My kids also did better if they had some kind of distraction while sitting on the potty. So a book to read or game to play. My nephew used to like to tell stories while he was sitting in there. The distraction helps nature take its course and keeps them from holding it.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:34:28 AM
We use Miralax with both our 3 yr old and 6 yr old. The urologist said that you can adjust the dose to whatever works for you child and it can be adjusted up or down. We've been using less than half a cap for the 3 year old and a full cap for the 6 year old. If they start getting runny, decrease it.

If you do try Miralax, the directions say you can use it in hot or cold beverages, but it does NOT mix well in cold unless you stir and stir. My kids won't drink it if its not well mixed, and I usually have to put it in a cup with a lid or mix it into applesauce or something.

Good luck...Glad that your little guy isn't in pain and that you're gonna work on it for him

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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:35:18 AM
We had this issue with dd2. We ended up having to take her in because after holding it for so long, the muscles were unable to push it out on their own So then we got to deal with it seeping out a little at a time. Not fun for anyone.

Dd,s dr had us mix 1T of mineral oil into chocolate milk at night. It helped soften everything up She went and we kept it up until the muscles were built up enough to do it on her own.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:37:31 AM
My dd started on Miralax at that age. I think we gave her about a quarter dose of what was recommended for adults. She had to take it every night for constipation. She is nine now and does not need it anymore. Give him some Miralax. It will get things started.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:40:24 AM
ODS did the same. Dr. had us use Miralax to get him going again. After that did the job, the ped recommended some pear juice daily. It's more gentle than prune juice but more effective than apple juice, I guess. We found it in the baby section usually rather than the juice aisle.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 11:46:01 AM
DS was on Miralax around that age for a few months while he potty trained. It kept everything easy moving and gave his gut time to heal and the muscles to get working again. Now he only gets Miralax when he needs his "super pooper juice"



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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:03:48 PM
Thank You so much everyone!!! I am waiting to hear back from the doctors office still. We'll be picking up some foods in a bit that will hopefully help him out longer term for sure.



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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:15:48 PM
Glycerin suppositories are a tried and true method at our house! The kids hate it, but it works in minutes. They're sold next to the diaper rash cream...


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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:28:28 PM
Personally I wouldn't be doing anything to that actual area at this time. If he is having issues in that area the last thing I would want to do is to teach him is if you don't push things out of there, than we go in. That is only increase his anxiety. It needs to be not be an issue, relaxed topic and encouraging tone. I get as mama you are concerned as should but I would just keep it something you deal with on the down low and not treat in ways that he can pick up on or notice. If it progresses to that then you will have to do what you have to do but at this point that is my 2 cents.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 12:42:24 PM
I would prefer NOT to use a suppository (sp?), I am afraid it will be more traumatizing to him. We are headed out to buy some juices and some fiber snacks -- per nurses suggestions for now. She said to give it another day or so and if nothing transpires call for an appointment.

Thanks again!!



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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:32:37 PM
a mug of hot(as hot as he can take) plain water to drink.

and then put his hands in very very warm water.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 1:33:40 PM
Prunes worked like a charm with my kids. Good luck.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:24:58 PM
Add Graham Crackers to you snack list! Yummy and helps with #2!


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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:31:02 PM
Juice gets things moving in my kids (they do not normally get juice; I don't know if that fact makes a difference).

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Posted: 11/27/2012 2:54:35 PM
Pear juice worked well with my kids.

Clementines or oranges, too.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 3:48:30 PM
If it has really been a 7 day week, then I would be using a glycerin suppository, 100% juice and walking.



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Posted: 11/27/2012 4:23:28 PM
Rolling on your back helps digestion, too. Roll up in a ball on your back with knees to chin. Then roll up & down along your spine. It really works and it's kinda fun.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 4:30:09 PM
Raisins


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Posted: 11/27/2012 4:33:17 PM
Benefiber was our friend when this happened.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 5:02:09 PM
Two out of my 3 kids have this problem. First we usually try McDonald's, (LOL but it does work a lot of the time). If that doesn't work we use BabyLax - which is now called PediaLax I believe. We've had much better luck with the liquid suppository type, but there are 3 different types they make - one is the liquid suppository, one a solid (but soft) suppository, and one other I can't remember right now.

You can get it at CVS/pharmacies, and sometimes Walmart. Our large grocery store also carries it sometimes.

The results with one of our kids is always instant (within 5 minutes). The other one, sometimes it will take a couple hours, but it eventually works.

ETA: We have the Miralax too and that does work well over a period of time to keep things soft and moving. There are periods of time when each of our kids take Miralax powder in their drinks if they've been having trouble. But as far as an instant trying-to-get-them-to-poop-asap, the Miralax doesn't work for us. By that point they need the PediaLax (again, sometimes McDonald's!) or we'll end up in the ER.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:39:59 PM
1/2 of a glycerin suppository with Vaseline.
My oldest did this when she potty trained. #1 was fine. #2 it was a week even with apple juice, and other natural laxative like food.
The GS worked like a charm! Don't forget to let him have a book or 10 to read while on the potty!

Oh and a glycerin suppository is so thin, he won't notice as long as the Vaseline is there.


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Posted: 11/27/2012 8:57:39 PM
We've been going through this exact thing with our almost 3 year old son. He would hold it and hold it until he finally had to go so bad, but would be so impacted, he'd scream. It was so stressful for him and us. I finally figured out that he was having anxiety about pooping because I would make such a big deal out of it. I also would sometimes attach a negative feeling to his pooping in his pants, which would lead to more anxiety.

So now we give him prune juice mixed with berry juice every single day, once a day. (about 1/2 c. of each). He has a bm daily now and life is so much better around here (funny how something like poop can impact your daily life!). He rarely poops his pants, but when he does, I just say, "Oh, you had a little accident. That happens sometimes, but I'm glad you let the poop come out!" We pretty much celebrate whenever he poops by clapping and telling him he did a great job. It really has worked for him. All of the anxiety with it is gone.

Hope you figure out something that works for your guy-this seems to be a pretty common thing, especially for boys!








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