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and i wish i had never seen it. i was sobbing at my desk this morning.
a boy was attacked, very harshly, and left for dead. he is fine. the rest of the details are beyond horrible.
i was a little mad that the story/photo was right there for all to see, without some sort of warning.
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I am so sorry you were surprised like that. I hope you feel better. I will definitely think twice and make sure it's something I want to read about before I go there today. |
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I had to go look. It's not at all horrific. It's actually quite tasteful. If it were the actual attack, I'd agree with you, but it's post recovery. It is well within the guidelines of good journalism. Not like the "seconds from death" photo that ran a couple days ago on some outlets. THAT was horrific. | |
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I never look at cnn's homepage, for thanks for calling that to my attention.
I am sorry you were upset, but I am amazed at how many people, around the world, have been inspired to act by this boy's story. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 8:43:04 AM
I read that this morning too. It was horrible. The evil that is in this world can be astounding. But if we don't know what is happening how can anyone hope to change things. Stories like this help to bring about change.
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I'm sure it wasn't as horrible for you reading it as it was for him when it happened or his mother when she found him.
I also thought the story was done well and I'm happy that he survived and might see some justice. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 8:44:26 AM
Totally agree, GrinningCat.
That subway picture shook me up---bad. I'm still really upset by it.
While I realize that photographer probably could not have saved that man, the image is just seared. He was SO CLOSE to safety. Plus, we never really know how we will react. I'd like to think I threw my camera down and charged over there to try anything. I don't care that the crazy guy that pushed him was between me and the victim. Instinct just kicks in, right.
This little boy, indeed. What a tragedy and amazing that he survived. This is a survival story. Brutal details, but he lived. That is amazing. Every day there are horrific stories of atrocities, usually against women and kids. Hard to read and must avoid if you're sensitive to it.
Sorry you were shocked and upset OP. But CNN runs this kind of thing all the time. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 8:47:43 AM
I'm sure it wasn't as horrible for you reading it as it was for him when it happened or his mother when she found him.
uhm, okay.
i agree it's good to bring attention to this sort of thing, of course i do, but it just hit me full on this morning like some things do.
i have a skinny, traumatized little 7 year old boy of my own. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 9:26:40 AM
(((hugs))) I read it before I came here. It is a terrible story. That poor boy. His poor parents. The love of money is the root of all evil.....
I'm sure you and I will hug our boys tightly tonight. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 9:27:34 AM
That story was sad. But the picture that goes along with the story display isn't that horrible (meaning it's not as graphic as you are leading people to believe).
While his attack was absolutely horrific and disgusting, the underlying message is of hope and generosity, and believing in miracles. So, while it made me cry and the description of the attack made my stomach churn, I am glad I read it. It is very informative, I had no idea that there was such a thing as forced begging, nor that people were disfiguring children in order to up the amount of money they receive.
But the part about all those people coming together to help that little boy, for no other reason than to help, is simply amazing. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 9:31:59 AM
Sad, yes. Disgusting? Really? It is an amazing story, and I say this as I sit at my dining room table with tears streaming down my face. The story is about disgusting acts perpetrated on a child, but there is a larger purpose of education, and yes, there is an ending that is worth it.
It is a story of evil, and the triumph of good over evil. It is a story of the enormous capacity of human beings to do unspeakable things, but also the enormous capacity of human beings to do that which is amazing, miraculous, selfless.
It is a story of the absolute brilliance of the people in our healthcare system, a brilliance that came not through government intererence and regulation but the freedom to try the impossible. We have doctors of unimaginable ingenuity and skill.
It is a story of redemption, of an attitude transformed by love and caring from that of hate and revenge to an attitude of caring and altruism.
Yes, people should be warned that the story is graphic and terrifying. But it's a story that needs to be told, and people, forewarned as to the heartbreaking aspect, need to read it. To the end. For that is where the hope breaks through the horror. And the first few sentences signal that the paragraphs ahead are not filled with sunshine and rainbows. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 9:34:24 AM
You just drove a ton of traffic there that would never have gone on its own.
Don't look behind you! (100 people get whiplash trying to get the first glimpse...) |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 9:36:04 AM
i have a skinny, traumatized little 7 year old boy of my own.
I don't get this. Why?
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"I want to become a doctor," he says without missing a beat, "because I want to save people. "And when I do, I won't take any money from them."
A hospital staffer suggests that perhaps one day Okkhoy could come work as a surgeon at Johns Hopkins.
"Wouldn't that be a miracle?" she says. "This story is full of miracles," Okkhoy's father responds.
Who's to say there won't be another one?
This is something that made it feel like it will be ok for this family. It is a tragic story, and yet one we just can't fully grasp here in the US. I think it is sad that you wanted to turn people away from it. We already sit in comfort and ease at our computers, that we are so delicate that such a story on a news website is so upsetting is troubling to me. That it was there for all to see? Really? The worst thing that happened was you had to see it?
At least you don't have to live it.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:00:37 AM
I think everyone should read that story. It's horrible yes, but it's also full of hope.
A terrible attack, and everything seems dark and hopeless.
People that are moved by the boys story, a loyer, an american businessman, doctors.
The boy will be physically ok, and he will get an education as the first in his family.
His trial will hopefully bring down the gang that has been doing this to boys for a long time. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:01:26 AM
I get feeling a bit differently when it's about a kid the age of your own child. I sobbed for a good hour when Elian Gonzales was taken from his relative's home by the US Government in the middle of the night - he is within months of my own son's age.
But telling everyone not to read it because it's 'disgusting' is a little over the top, imho.
Disgusting are the brutal actions depicted at the beginning. Disgusting are the practices that are described and, yes, the glaring light of world opinion SHOULD be directed to what's going on.
The article itself is well-written - like a short story that engages and rises to a climactic ending. Not disgusting in itself, informative and ultimately uplifting. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:02:01 AM
It IS disgusting. Disgusting that humans would treat a child that way. And I think it should be up in our faces. We should be reminded and be forced to confront it. To do something about human rights here and other countries. That poor child.
ETA: I have a 7 y/o right now, FWIW. |
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I'm taking your advice, Peace Sign, and not looking/reading. I'm also very sorry it affected you so strongly. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:11:10 AM
I read it as a story of hope. He seems to be a boy with a happy spirit despite the horrible things done to him.
I'm glad his surgery turned out well. Johns Hopkins is incredible.
Dh has a friend who was crushed from the waist down by a marble panel that fell off a crane at work. After recovering (shattered bones) he had reconstructive surgery at Johns Hopkins and later a surgery to have the internal penile pump put in. Amazing the things that doctors can do!
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:16:41 AM
But telling everyone not to read it because it's 'disgusting' is a little over the top, imho.
my point is that i went to CNN unprepared for this right in my face at the top of the page. that's all. the story is disgusting, IMO. not CNN or the author. it's disgusting what was done to that boy. and even though it is a story of recovery and possibly hope, it made me ill. i just would have preferred some warning. that's all.
yes, i know i drove traffic there. i'm not really urging people not to go to CNN. i should change my title.
i think the picture IS horrible. yes, he's healed, but i guess my imagination gets the best of me.
i agree that everyone should know what horrors are going on in the world. completely agree.
batya - my guy went through front page news story abuse by his bio mom. just as nightowl said...extra emotional for me with a boy that age.
i am just venting. the peas don't need to take everything so literally. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:22:59 AM
What an amazing story! Yes, it's terrible what happened to him, but his recovery is beyond miraculous. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:23:30 AM
PeaceSign ~ I understand the horror you felt when reading about the unspeakable acts inflicted on that young boy. When I read it, I felt like I had been punched in the stomach.
I cannot comprehend how humans can be capable of such torture.
I do agree with the other posters who said people have to be aware, in order to prevent others from suffering the same fate. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:26:39 AM
I knew what you meant about your own son.
I think there is hope written into the story, but I guess I'm too cynical - the realities of this boy's life will make it damned difficult - no, make it nearly impossible for him to achieve his goal of becoming a doctor. Is it *possible*? Yes. Is is it *probable*? Not really. The fact is that living in fear of their lives, watching over his shoulder every moment of his life, worrying about his loved ones - those issues are more likely, statistically speaking, to breed anger and hate than a burning desire to work his fingers to the bone trying to fund a real education. Unless his US benefactor continues follow-up care throughout the boy's teen years, chances are very good that he will have complications/issues that will feed the anger. The odds are nearly insurmountable.
Can he overcome the odds? Sure. Will he? I pray so. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:29:05 AM
I had to go to cnn after seeing the thread title. Horrific thing, light does need to come to this because it happens a lot over there.
That subway picture shook me up---bad. I'm still really upset by it.
While I realize that photographer probably could not have saved that man, the image is just seared. He was SO CLOSE to safety. Plus, we never really know how we will react. I'd like to think I threw my camera down and charged over there to try anything. I don't care that the crazy guy that pushed him was between me and the victim. Instinct just kicks in, right.
The photographer was on the Today show yesterday and presented his side very well and I don't fault him for anything. I can't remember the specifics now but I believe he said from his angle he couldn't see him and the photo had to be lightened to see him and that there were closer people nearby. He said the NY Post decided to put it on the cover, he had no control over that, implying people should be upset with the newspaper not him.
I have to say I'm one of those people who think 3 steps ahead. For instance I could see someone drop a camera and know that in the 5 seconds it would take me to get there I wouldn't make it on time so need to jump. Most people would leap for it. That's not the best example but I've been in situations like that where I see people act on something that I didn't and it's because I know that I either would make it on time or that 5 other people will. However in the end it does make me look strange that I took no action, but it's because I thought this out fully.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:38:37 AM
I found it to be a story of hope that brought me to tears.
The strength of that child is beyond measure.
It's atrocious what those creatures did to him, and by this story going so public, maybe it will help stop what is going on in that country... | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:49:39 AM
I get feeling a bit differently when it's about a kid the age of your own child.
I have an 8 year old son.
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I have an 8 year old son.
What's your point? I didn't say everyone who has a son that age is going to react as the OP did, or even ought to. Are you trying to say she shouldn't have the reaction she has because she has a son that age, since you have a similar age son and didn't personalize it?It's just a different reaction by 2 people with similar life experience who view things differently.
It's just a different 'feel' for 'some' people when the subject of a story is of an age that coincides with their own child. And I understand that, because I've been there, both with the Elian situation and others that I prefer not to mention. I also understand that not everyone with a child the same age will identify so closely. You don't.
It's like the story of the old man being deported for being a concentration camp guard and hiding it when he applied for citizenship. He claims he was forced to do it at 17, and some people looked at that and said "hey, I have a 17yo, the man should be let off the hook" and others said "hey, I have a 17yo, and that would be awful, if he's telling the truth, but that's for a war crimes court to look at and determine what, if any, his punishment should be." |
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batya
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:12:21 AM
batya - my guy went through front page news story abuse by his bio mom.
I am so sorry. That's horrible! I didn't understand what you were getting at. I thought you meant he was reading CNN.
I agree this is a terribly horrific thing to happen to a child. To anyone. And I want to scoop him up and make it all go away. But I think we all do. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:16:13 AM
You posted a very sensationalistic title which naturally drives people to CNN in droves, then say peas shouldn't take it so literally? |
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I have a son who just turned 8 and I thought the story was well-done. | |
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OK..I had to go read the story.
OMG!! That is TOTALLY a story of HOPE! of parents love! of a miracle. WHY would you tell people NOT to read this? Let's all just stick our heads in the sand and pretend that things like this don't happen???
Instead you should be telling people TO GO READ IT!! and DO SOMETHING!!
The sad part is that people can't read, see, and realize what this world is really like....There are bad bad people out there. Stories like this take away thier power. Ignoring it, gives it back.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:57:01 AM
OMG!! That is TOTALLY a story of HOPE! of parents love! of a miracle. WHY would you tell people NOT to read this? Let's all just stick our heads in the sand and pretend that things like this don't happen???
Instead you should be telling people TO GO READ IT!! and DO SOMETHING!!
I know, right? I wish this family could emigrate to America, go back so the kid can testify at the trial, but live here, send him to school so that he can become the person he now says he wants to be. I thought it was STUNNING that he went from a sense of revenge to a desire for altruism, with all he's been through. That's going to be tough to maintain with the messed up conditions they are returning to, with the family split up and living in fear. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:28:24 PM
Shame on you.
Really?
as i said...maybe you shouldn't take the title so literally. a warning would have been nice. i opened the page up to see while having some coffee and ended up sick to my stomach. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:30:25 PM
YOU HAVE TO READ THIS STORY! yes it was traumatic, graphic, and frightening but it was also inspiring and full of hope. the little boy triumphed, medical science triumphed, the human spirit triumphed. the more people that read this story, the more awareness there will be. if that businessman had merely turned the channel in disgust, this little boy wouldn't have found the help he needed. i admire what he and CNN did am grateful for the doctors who generously volunteered their time and expertise. through the darkness of this story came some unbelievable light. i am glad i read that story. thank you for bringing it to our attention. |
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raindancer
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:43:44 PM
Nightowl, there are times when you go off on me that all I can think is WTH?
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:50:12 PM
Nightowl, there are times when you go off on me that all I can think is WTH?
I got that vibe as well.
As to OP's later post about her DS having been abused by his bio mom, I think some of the 'shame on you' and other posts need to be taken down a peg.
It's not just that she has a DS the same age but she has a child she adopted who was *badly abused* and I think this struck a cord with her that most of us can never understand not having walked in her shoes.
She had a visceral reaction to something in a personal way that we will likely only experience in a theoretical way. Let's cut her some slack. OK? |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:52:59 PM
PEAce sign, I'm so sorry that story impacted you the way it did, but respectfully, I have to disagree with you. It is a story that should be read! It is amazing - the resiliency of this boy and his family, the generosity of those involved with restoring him...truly a beautiful report of "out of great evil comes even greater good".
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:57:03 PM
Damn people, pay attention. Peacesign adopted her little guy after he was terribly abused. Of course that story hit her hard.
Please stop with the shame on you comments. She lives this every day.
Peacesign- Thank you for taking care of your little guy. And I'm really sorry that you were blindsided by the story. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:02:01 PM
"Really?
as i said...maybe you shouldn't take the title so literally. a warning would have been nice. i opened the page up to see while having some coffee and ended up sick to my stomach."
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Yes, really!! You are reading CNN. You are not reading touchey feely People or some other magazine, or tv channel. The picture was NOT that extreme. If it hit close to home, then you shouldn't have read it.
From just the title alone, you would know what it's about. If things like that bother you, then why read it?
I think the USA is becoming WAY too overly sensative to stuff. This is why there are sooo many problems with helping people out there, and other countries. Are we becoming such pearl clutchers that we can't read stuff that offends us? that challenges us? that horrifys us???
This is the REALLY?? really??
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:04:08 PM
cindy-I'm going to address you personally:
As to OP's later post about her DS having been abused by his bio mom, I think some of the 'shame on you' and other posts need to be taken down a peg.
It's not just that she has a DS the same age but she has a child she adopted who was *badly abused* and I think this struck a cord with her that most of us can never understand not having walked in her shoes.
She had a visceral reaction to something in a personal way that we will likely only experience in a theoretical way. Let's cut her some slack. OK?
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OK. Newbie. This is how it works. If your post consists of 80% sanity, 10% stupidity and 10% all kinds of crazy, we immediately focus on the 20% b/c it discredits the 80%.
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wendy.merrill
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I am sorry you were upset, but I am amazed at how many people, around the world, have been inspired to act by this boy's story.
I agree completely.
It's awful what happened to this poor boy (and others) but the part that choked me up was when the dad asked the guy why he was helping his family. I'd love to be able to help people like that.
Horrible thing, I hope this boy recovers completely. Sounds like a pretty amazing kid. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 2:45:44 PM
cindy, you're overreacting. and you're usually such a level headed gal.
i'm glad that the story has a 'happy' ending. glad it's hopeful. glad it's there for those to see who have no idea what is going on in the world. all the rest of the story is great and hopeful. i just can't get past the attack to see it, i guess. the act itself. how can someone DO that????!!!
things make people feel differently. i'm entitled to my opinion. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 2:52:49 PM
things make people feel differently.
Exactly. Although I thought your warning not to read it was overreacting, I understand why you did, with your additional clarification after the OP, even if I don't agree that people should avoid it. I don't think, though, that you deserved
I'm sure it wasn't as horrible for you reading it as it was for him when it happened or his mother when she found him.
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Really? The worst thing that happened was you had to see it?
At least you don't have to live it.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 3:32:26 PM
Batya, I saw that post already, and I understand it. That is why I am ?? over why she would NOT want others to see that article, and to be more aware of things like that. NOT say DO NOT read it.
We all have personal experiances with bad bad things. Does that mean we should never be exposed to other bad things?
I personally think the OP over-reacted like owl said.
Either way..I don't think anyone should tell another person what NOT to open or read anywhere. I think that's the nitty gritty of why I am reacting like I am. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 3:37:35 PM
I was also inspired by the story. What amazing story of the human spirit, compassion, and love. I had to wipe my eyes after reading it. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 3:38:30 PM
it's surprising to me how people can read the same story and yet have such completely different takes on it
I thought it was an incredible inspiring story of hope and overcoming seemingly insurmountable obstacles |
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