Which die cutting system do you prefer and why?
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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:21:58 PM
Ok, before you tear into a newbie for asking a question that's been asked a dozen times, I did do a few searches and didn't find what I was looking for. Plus, I'm not really a newbie. Years ago I was Sailorslady here, just don't remember any of that log in info.

I haven't scrapped in probably 4 years, and I am just getting back to it. I have some gift cash that I was thinking of spending on a die cutting system, but there are so many out there now that I'm overwhelmed, so I figured I'd get advice from those who know.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:47:47 PM
I'm in the same boat! It has been about 4 years since I last scrapped. I will be curious to see what everyone says!



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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:04:59 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who took an extended hiatus!

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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:14:58 PM
There is no "best die cutting system". There is only the best system "for your purposes"

The first decision is: manual or electronic?

How comfortable are you with an electronic system's learning curve? How portable do you want your system to be? How much space do you have to house your system?

For my purposes, I have a Boss Kut Gazelle for an electronic system because A. I wanted it to cut fonts for titles and b. I wanted to be able to design my own die cuts. I had no intention of carting my electronic system anywhere with me. The key thing about the electronic system (for me) is the ability to resize. It is very economical to make your fonts and shapes the exact size you need, instead of keep large and small fonts in duplicate die sets for a manual cutter.

However, I do prefer the finish and simplicity of a manual die cutter. Often times, it is faster than the electronic cutter too. I have a Lifestyle Crafts (formerly Quickutz) Epic Six as my portable cutter, but I think I would have been better served by the Sizzix Big Shot. I do not know how well the Fiskars Fushion is. I like that it can fold up but it's too new to know enough reviews.

For my home use, I have a whole room for myself, so I have an Accucut Grande Mark manual die cutter. It does my heavy duty work. It has a dedicated table and I do struggle to find storage for all its large and heavy dies.



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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:28:01 PM
Thank you that gives me an idea of where to start thinking. I don't think I need one that is portable since there's no place nearby to go to scrap - well, the closest is the DFW area and I'm an hour away from there. I think I'd like an electronic one, I'm not afraid of the learning curve on one, I think I'm just overwhelmed by the wide variety of options out there. I think I'd like it mostly to create titles for my pages.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:31:06 PM
I would not recommend the Cricut products as you are tied to cartridges. SCAL software does not really make up for the independence of the other electronic cutters. Ii does not cut as fine as some of the Silhouette die cuts I have seen. I have an Expression, SCAL and several cartridges which I plan on selling to buy a Silhoutte Cameo. That seems to be the most popular electronic cutter.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:56:24 PM
'Lani, is that you???

I'm one of the few Slice users here, so my advice probably won't help you. I actually am quite fond of my Big Shot and dies, though. I assume you are asking about the bigger electronic systems, right?


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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:04:20 PM
I love my Vagabond machine and my Sizzix dies, but the biggest machine on the market right now is the Cameo.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:05:30 PM
Cameo.




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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:20:49 PM

'Lani, is that you???


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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:35:55 PM
I agree that it really depends on what you are wanting to do with it. I searched for 3 months and finally decided on the Grand Calibur. I so wanted the Spellbinders dies and not much of anything else. Though I have bought a few other dies and embossing folders that work with the GC. It was so perfect for me. I love that machine and the Spellbinders.

An electonic cutter was not for me. I did not have the room or extra funds for another computer in order to use it.



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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:38:43 PM
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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:41:54 PM
Sizzix Eclips. I almost never have to re-cut anything.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:42:44 PM
Electronic: Cameo
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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:45:36 PM
I have 3 different cutters, and I love them all. They all have different benefits.
1. Slice - Portable, sits in a cubby on my desk, instant gratification, cuts anywhere on page I want.
2. An original Silhoutte - let's me cut any font on my computer and any svg files I want to download
3. Big Shot - easiest manual utter I've ever played with. I use it mostly for shapes I know I'll use over and over again. This is the easiest cutter for my kids to use, too.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 6:17:34 PM
I have a Gazelle, and I love it, but if I were in the market for a new electronic cutter today, I would seriously consider the KnK Zing, since it will cut materials that my Gazelle won't cut.

My Gazelle can do more than a Cameo, though. Cameo is the most popular machine right now, but so was the Cricut once upon a time, and it was NOT because it was the best machine. The Cricut was never the best machine. The Cameo is a great machine, but the Gazelle is better IMO, and the Zing looks like it is better still.

But I also recommend a Big Shot and some versatile steel rule dies, and maybe some Spellbinder dies, too.


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Posted: 1/13/2013 6:42:33 PM
for me, i like the expression/gypsy combo because i can cut up to 125 pieces at a time without hand cranking it on a manual cutter.

i also prefer the vagabond for the same electronic reason--sometimes i have to emboss over 100 pieces at one time and i don't have the patience or arm to crank all thos pieces manually. besides, i can use my thicker dies in the vagabond too when i cut through fabric or chipboard.



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Posted: 1/13/2013 9:07:16 PM
I prefer the look of dies cut from manual machines. I have the Zip'eMate (long discontinued), Big Shot and AccuCut GrandeMark. I can cut ANY die with those machines. I can even cut the largest Spellbinder's die with the GrandeMark.


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Posted: 1/13/2013 9:21:40 PM
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Posted: 1/13/2013 9:31:06 PM
I am also a slice user. I have a cuttlebug and both of these serve my purpose just fine. I use my slice to cut letters so I don't have to spend money on thickers and such.

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Posted: 1/13/2013 9:38:32 PM
I've had the Silhouette (original and now Cameo) for several years now and still love it. I love that I can customize the size of my shapes and that I can also use my own fonts.


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Posted: 1/13/2013 10:23:39 PM
If you are going electronic, the Cameo is the most popular right now. However, I do recommend what Scrapn Nana said: check out the KNK Zing. If you are interested in cutting chipboard, the Cameo is out. The KNK Zing has more grams of cutting force to get through thicker material, like chipboard.

If you just want to cut cardstock, the Cameo is still in the running. You can also settle for faux chipboard by cutting multiples of a letter or shape from cardstock and stacking them together. Depends if you don't mind "making do" if you don't plan on cutting a lot of chipboard or other heavier stuff.



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Posted: 1/14/2013 12:54:34 AM
I have the Sizzix eClips, Silhouette Cameo and Sizzix Big Shot. I haven't used my cameo yet, but I am tomorrow. Good luck finding the right machine for you. I suggest YouTube videos to help you decide. By the way, I just sold my Cricut and everything that went with it.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 7:07:25 AM
I have the original Sizzix and Sizzlets. I use them regularly.

I decided a long time ago that since I spend a good bit of my day fighting with computers, I do not want to spend any of my free time in my hobby doing that. I don't want a learning curve, I don't want to fuss with cartridges, etc.

So for me, the Sizzix works fine.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 7:10:01 AM
the cricut i got 2 in the same month i won a black one and my dd got me a pink one for xmas


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Posted: 1/14/2013 8:51:46 AM
I have the Big Shot and the Grand Calibur for manual machines and I use both. Love them but I prefer cutting this way.
I also have one of the smallest Cricut and dont use it. I have problems with my Slice and this is why I am reluctant about purchasing an electric die cutter. I am very happy with manual.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:03:35 AM
I know I am in the minority but I love my Expression and gypsy. I don't have my own computer, I share with my family and don't have space in my craftroom or when I go to a crop to have a laptop hooked up to a die cutter. So, the cartridges work best for me.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:26:31 AM
Another vote for Cricut. Even with all the pluses of other die cut machines, I love that the Cricut doesn't have to be hooked up to the computer, and I don't have to take the time to learn the system. Just plug it in and cut.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:36:13 AM
I own the Big Shot, Cameo and Cricut and I really prefer my Cricut, I don't like being tied to the computer.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:53:11 AM
I'm a Cameo and Big Shot owner. I've had both for years and years and never a problem like I see with Cuttlebug and Cricut owners. Both were huge investments for me and both have exceeded my (high) expectations.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:53:02 AM
I have an Expression 2 and a Cameo. Cameo is still in the box, I need to pull it out and get to work on it, but I have been saying that for two months now. I have a three day weekend coming up and hope to get some time then!

I like the Expression 2 because it is sort of 'brainless' on my part. Cartridge, shape, button, cut! No fuss, no muss.



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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:57:25 AM
I love my Cameo; I'm able to cut very detailed cuts, design my own cuts, sketch and draw, import and trace, design my entire layouts to see how everything fits on the page, print and cut images, and make changes to existing designs without any trouble. I love, Love, love my cameo.


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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:04:41 AM
I had the Cricut Expression along with SCAL and the Gypsy {with numerous carts} for about five years, but eventually bought myself a Cameo a couple of years ago and have never looked back!!! Sold all of my Cricut stuff and have not regretted it at all!!!

I would definately check out OhMyCrafts.com if you are looking to buy a Cameo...they usually have really good deals!!!

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Posted: 1/14/2013 12:43:14 PM

I would definately check out OhMyCrafts.com if you are looking to buy a Cameo...they usually have really good deals!!!

I would only do it if you have patience. They have some of the WORST customer service out there.



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Posted: 1/14/2013 1:48:22 PM
I should have mentioned that I also have a Cricut Expression 2 and like it a lot when I don't want to be tied to a computer. I use it with the Gypsy, and enjoy the convenience.

However, that convenience is expensive. By the time you buy a bunch of cartridges, even on sale, it can really add up. The Cricut is essentially the most expensive system IMO, and you are limited to the cartridges since the third party softwares such as SCAL and MTC no longer work with the Cricut (for new Cricut owners). Even though the Gypsy gives you some additional freedom and options with the Cricut, you still are working with the cartridges, and the Gypsy has reportedly been discontinued. Figured those things should be mentioned.

Before you buy any cutter, I also recommend that you check out what designs are available for purchase for the different systems unless you are an artist and plan to design everything yourself. I do my own design work on my Gazelle, but I happened to like some of the Cricut cartridges, too, so I eventually bought a Cricut. At the time, there was nothing on the Silhouette site that I couldn't make on my own with my Gazelle. I didn't like either the Slice or the eClipse designs, either, so there was nothing to really tempt me to buy those machines.

There is no "one size fits all" in cutters. Everyone has different needs in a cutter. It will take time to check out each cutter, but I recommend it rather than just rely on popular opinion, so you can get the machine that would best suit you.


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Posted: 1/14/2013 2:21:00 PM
I don't know if this was mentioned but if you are looking into electronic cutters cricut is cartridge based and those do take up room. The silhouette is all computer based. And that was a factor for me when deciding. I have the older silhouette SD & I LOVE it. I will upgrade to the cameo eventually for the cut width.

For manual, I love my Big Shot (I have the kick, but they are fairly comparable).


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Posted: 1/14/2013 2:21:46 PM
oh, and I can never find anything by using the "Search Forums" either. I think it all goes to lala land.


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Posted: 1/14/2013 2:51:49 PM
Here are a couple of videos showing the KNK Zing cutting chipboard:

Zing Cutting 0.02" White Chipboard

Zing Cutting 0.03" Natural Chipboard

And then at CHA on Saturday, KNK USA introduced our newest feature (free for any Zing owner to use),voice control:

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Posted: 1/14/2013 3:03:44 PM
At this point, I'm strictly manual (although I have Silhouette Portrait dreams). Hands down, the Sizzix Big Shot. It's sturdy, you can use any die, embossing folder or plate, etc. I started with the original Spellbinder's machine, and am MUCH happier with my Big Shot.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 3:06:12 PM
Interesting discussion...thanks for starting it.
I actually have the vagabond (love it for dies and embossing folders)
Cricut machines...I personally like a cartridge based die cutting system instead of having to use a computer to make my die cuts.
Grand Calibur for the spellbinders (haven't found anything else that embosses as well)...
Good luck in whatever you decide!

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Posted: 1/15/2013 7:47:20 AM
Thank you for all your replies.

I have about 20 fonts from Quickutz that I'd like to be able to use. So I need something for that.

I like the idea of being able to use any font I want, so an electronic cutter is on my "someday" wishlist.

I'm jealous of all of y'all who have multiple machines!


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Posted: 1/15/2013 7:57:27 AM

I have about 20 fonts from Quickutz that I'd like to be able to use. So I need something for that.


Then start with a Big Shot or Big Kick, whichever you can get cheapest with a coupon at a big box store. That will let you use your QuicKutz alphabet dies. Or you could get a Cuttlebug, which might be even less expensive, but the Big Shot/Big Kick will cut slightly wider dies, should you decide to get some other dies later.


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Posted: 1/15/2013 8:50:56 AM
I have a Cameo and a cricut and love them both. As far as manual machines go I bought a Fiskars Fuse and sold my Cuttlebug and Big Shot.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:05:08 AM
Cameo Silhouette - I have tried a lot of systems and this one does it all! No having to buy seperate cartridges, TONS of shapes, words, etc and so easy to use! You can't go wrong with it!
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