10 Steps to a Successful School Drop-off
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:49:39 PM


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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:10:42 PM
Here's my school drop off quandary. How can 6 years of elementary school drop off training where we all pull forward, discharge out kids at the same time and leave together so the next group of 10 cars can do the same go completely out the window as soon as the kid moves on to middle school? Suddenly every single child needs to be dropped off as close to door as possible? I do not have time to inch forward one car at a time. My kid hopped out as soon as we turned the corner and he's in class before I can even get my car out of the drop off lane at the High School.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:15:54 PM
As a teacher who does drop off duty, I wholeheartedly applaud all of those and wish our administration would enforce them. It's the same darn people every day, too.

As a parent, Peal, I feel you on the middle school drop off. It's common practice at my kid's middle school for parents to pull up on a side street a block or two from the school and let their kid walk from there, because once you're sucked into the vortex of the drop off line, you will be there for 30 minutes minimum. Afternoon pick up is even worse. My dd and I have a prearranged meeting spot on a corner two blocks from the school. I park and wait and she walks to me. Much faster.



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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:20:38 PM
Oh I know better than to try to go into the Middle School drop off lane and I drop DS off early and he can walk in. But the High School is at the end of dead end street and traffic patterns force you into one of the two drop off lanes. Add to that teen drivers and I'm white knuckling it the whole way trying to keep my composure.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:23:10 PM
I love it! And the linked blog post in the comments section about the blogger doing Parent Patrol at said drop off line? Hilarious!


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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:54:48 PM
Can I add one?
Please do not drive in the out lane. Your kid is in HS and walks outside between classes in the freezing cold, they can stand there and wait just like the rest of them until we pull up into the round-a-bout. And when you drive in the out, do not sit there and cuss at me because I'm now blocking your way out, because I am where I'm supposed to be. I have my kid, I am in the out lane. You are holding up traffic, not me.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 4:13:05 PM
LOL!

I have never had to endure the "drop off line"

My kiddo's rode the bus until they were 14.5 years old - and then they drove themselves to HS.

I can't imagine one kid in our HS who has a parent pick them up. That would be considered total humiliation in these parts...kind of sad though.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 4:50:59 PM
Peaname, I could kiss you right now! I couldn't remember the name of that blog and when I clicked on your link I knew that was it. Thank you! I read some of her posts one day and didn't bookmark it. Just today I was thinking about it and I thought " well it will show up somewhere sooner or later". No lie, I thought that about 3 hours ago.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 5:31:25 PM
11. Don't pull up into the crosswalk where kids are, you know, crossing!



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Posted: 2/5/2013 6:09:13 PM

7) If you are in a hurry because you are so much busier and more important than any other parent in line please leave for school 10 minutes earlier so we don’t have to listen to you honk your horn or attempt to squeeze into a line opening that is not big enough to accommodate your vehicle or your ego.


Even if this was the only one listed a good 80% of the issues would be eliminated.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 6:18:19 PM
I love this!!!

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Posted: 2/5/2013 7:35:35 PM
Wonderful! I take my granddaughter to school every day. She is 10. Even she gets irritated. One day she said,

This is the drop of lane, not the get out and hug you kid lane.

Cracked me up.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:07:50 PM
No Joke, When my daughter was in Kindergarten, there were parents who would carry their child to the door and HOLD them until the bell rang.
Then place their special snowflake inside the door.


The teacher would make the special little people go back outside, line up and walk into the classroom.


Most of the parents stopped after Christmas break, but one mom did it the WHOLE school year.And yes they parked in the school driveway.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:27:54 PM
I would add....

Do NOT let your child out in the pull through lane. Not only do you block traffic, but you risk having your child hit by a car. Your time isn't so precious that you can't wait a few seconds for a place to open up! Just say NO to double parking!!!

Also....

If you are told you need to move along because you are blocking traffic or parking in a no parking zone....don't yell at the person telling you. Accept you are a acting stupid, apologize, and MOVE ALONG!


I swear as soon as parents pull into our schools drop off area they lose their ever loving minds!

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:58:15 PM
That was great!



When my 2nd son was born, my mother brought my older son to elementary school while I was in the hospital.


When I asked her how it went she said "How do you make him stop talking to you? He kept talking even though we were there and I was starting to get a little afraid of the people in line behind me.". LOL!


I forgot to tell her that I start jokingly telling DS to "Get out of my car!!" from the second my front bumper hits the drop-off lane. And when that fails, I remind him that if he doesn't get there early, he loses his "gym time", which is very important to him.


All kids there between 8:20 & 8:30 get to socialize in the gym until they are all dismissed to their classes. Kids who arrive 8:30 or later go straight to their class.

He never wants to miss extra free time with his friends.



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Posted: 2/5/2013 9:10:13 PM
I love this!

I would also add that for the love of all that's only, never allow the grandparents or dad or anyone else who has not experienced the drop off experience first hand to take over for you. Seriously, it causes utter confusion.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:16:49 AM
I think I may send that to our principal. The buses are letting out when the drop offs are happening and it's mayhem. And parents park on the line all the time and that makes me absolutely insane.

And pickup? We have all these entitled parents who feel free to pull up in front of everyone else rather than (God forbid!) just wait on the line.



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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:48:26 AM

It's common practice at my kid's middle school for parents to pull up on a side street a block or two from the school and let their kid walk from there


This is actually the rule at my dd's middle school. Parents aren't allowed to pull into the parking lot to drop off their children.

I am the PTA secretary for my ds's elementary school and our parent drop-off is so bad. I also manage our PTA Facebook page and I so wish I could link to that on there.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:49:12 AM
I can't handle watching the things that happen in the drop-off line.

We are in middle school this year & I sit there stunned that the same parents that had to get out of the car to help their snowflake get out in elementary, are STILL DOING IT IN 6TH GRADE.

I simply can't handle it anymore and dd rides the bus now that we moved where there is a bus. I am so happy to not see what is happening anymore.


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It just boggles my mind that it is the same kids every day! The parents complain.......HELLO, our district is bussed. Please put your Snowflake on it and you won't have to wait for anything but your coffee to be ready for you at home.

Every child gets FREE bus service! Yes, FREE and there are parents that drop off/pick up their Snowflake in fear that Snowflake may melt........



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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:29:32 AM
I can feel my BP climbing while I watch the kids finishing their breakfast, slowly put on their shoes, hunt all over the car for heaven knows what, finish long conversations with parents...UGH. It's the same freaking routine every day. Shoes on, breakfast eaten, cr*p gathered BEFORE you get in the car.

We try as hard as we can to walk b/c I can't handle drop off !


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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:40:20 AM

It's common practice at my kid's middle school for parents to pull up on a side street a block or two from the school and let their kid walk from there.


I do this with my elementary-schooler just to avoid the nightmare of the dropoff line.

Even at that, there is one mom who does the same but comes zipping up (not speeding but too fast IMO) and pulls up *right *behind the crossing guard's car to drop her son off, every day.

If you're in that much of a hurry every single day you need to change your morning routine.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:40:26 AM
Love it!

The parents who get out of their car in the drop off lane make my blood pressure go through the roof. And, of course, they park at the entrance of the drop off lane because it's closer to the playground (rather than pull all the way up) and back up traffic on two major roads because others can't get in. I wish the school would do something to stop it.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:47:48 AM
Our Elementary School principal (Mr. B ) held trainings called "School drop-off/ pick-up 101" at the beginning of each school year. Most of the observations listed in the blog were covered in his "training".

You had to attend the training in order to get a sticker that allowed you to pull into the drop-off or pick-up lane. You were "Drop-off/Pick-up Lane Approved". If you didn't go to the training or if your car did not display the sticker, then you had to park in the other lot and had to walk up to retrieve your child. I should also mention that the "other parking lot" was where the school buses were, so you were blocked in until the buses left.

If you committed some egregious act, your sticker was "revoked" and you had to attend the training again to get your sticker.

A lot of people complained at the beginning, but honestly, after the initial grumbling, everyone loved it!!. Our elementary school serves children that live out in the country and the school is out in the country so 425 of the 470 students were all bussed. I would say that about 75-100 cars were there each day for drop off or pick up times for each session. The lot was cleared within 10 minutes of dismissal.

I swear that those teachers and staff that did the parking lot duty were trained by tactical officers!! If the parent dawdled AT ALL, they would tap on the window and tell you to pull into the lot.

In talking with Mr. B , he viewed an organized and orderly drop-off and pick-up time as a child safety issue. He also felt that an organized process contributed to a good start of the school day for the students and staff. Therefore, he took it very seriously.

When my son went to the intermediate school (grades 5 and 6), the staff there would crack up and mention that they could tell those that were trained by "Mr. B".

The pick-up and drop-off at my son's intermediate and middle school actually goes fairly well. The design of the school parking lots greatly assist with that.

Now, he's at the high school and I avoid the school during drop off or pick up times due to newly licensed high school students who want to zoom out of the student lots.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:49:51 AM

Every child gets FREE bus service! Yes, FREE and there are parents that drop off/pick up their Snowflake in fear that Snowflake may melt........


And you know their reasons how?

Could be time, geography, babysitter issue. We don't know and to use a shorthand term that is generally derogatory as if we know the varied reasons is silly. Just as if someone characterized bus parents as poor parents due to safety, security and exposure issues on the bus.

All I ask is that whatever mode of transportation you use BE READY! Long bus stop goodbyes or the 1+ minute trek from the house is uncool too. If every kid on the bus takes "just an extra minute?" How late is that bus?
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Posted: 2/6/2013 9:34:24 AM
The schools around here don't have drop off lines or pick up lines. Everyone has to get out of their cars if they want to wait for the child after school and there is one small curb white zone for before school (which is always full of empty parked cars). That is why one child bikes and the other one gets picked up two blocks from the school.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 10:07:48 AM

Our Elementary School principal (Mr. B ) held trainings called "School drop-off/ pick-up 101" at the beginning of each school year. Most of the observations listed in the blog were covered in his "training".

You had to attend the training in order to get a sticker that allowed you to pull into the drop-off or pick-up lane. You were "Drop-off/Pick-up Lane Approved". If you didn't go to the training or if your car did not display the sticker, then you had to park in the other lot and had to walk up to retrieve your child. I should also mention that the "other parking lot" was where the school buses were, so you were blocked in until the buses left.

If you committed some egregious act, your sticker was "revoked" and you had to attend the training again to get your sticker.

Drop-off Utopia!

I can't imagine the humiliation of having your sticker revoked!

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Posted: 2/6/2013 10:10:13 AM
Oh man, all I can think of is Mr. Mom


The only problem I ever had was poorly-trained drop-off volunteers. Heck I had one such parent patrol volunteer direct me to curb side then as soon as the car in front of me pulled away, SHE MOTIONED ME TO MOVE UP! LADY. MY 2ND-GRADER IS HALF-WAY OUT OF THE CAR I AM NOT GOING TO MOVE UP.

Some of these volunteers are as crazy as the dropping-off moms. And dads.

Just sayin'

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It just boggles my mind that it is the same kids every day! The parents complain.......HELLO, our district is bussed. Please put your Snowflake on it and you won't have to wait for anything but your coffee to be ready for you at home.




What I'll never understand are the parents who have their child bussed to school, but sit at the bus stop IN THEIR CAR with Junior so he doesn't have to stand out in the cold to wait. Huh? I'm supposed to start my car, drive 200 feet to the corner and let it run, burn gas so you can be comfy cozy waiting for your bus?

And let's be clear, Junior is at least 14 years old. And we live in Delaware, not Alaska. 30 degrees for 10 minutes won't kill him - if he's wearing a coat. I swear, I can't stand to sit behind the bus in the morning while the driver is waiting for high school students taking their time to get out of dad's minivan!

We stood in the cold, rain, heat, whatever. Let your kid experience SOME discomfort while growing up. Sheesh.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 11:58:09 AM
The elementary school near me is on a dead end street and the cars have to go in a P shape for drop off/pick up: the road goes from the bottom of the P up, turn right into the curve and out again onto the stick part of the P. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen cars trying to get into the curve part actually block the exit. Hello? If the cars in the curve cannot get out because you are blocking the exit, the line completely stops and you cannot go IN.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 12:05:45 PM

My dd and I have a prearranged meeting spot on a corner two blocks from the school. I park and wait and she walks to me. Much faster.


When I was in junior high many, many moons ago, my mom and I did the same thing, but only if it was raining, otherwise I had to walk home. This was a fine plan until the afternoon it rained buckets and buckets (even the fish had trouble crossing the street, LOL). And I forgot the plan and walked halfway home, once I looked like adrowned rat, I remembered my mom, so I had to walk all the way back, as she would not have know what happened to me. And that is a rain storm I'll never forget.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 12:27:58 PM
This thread reminds me of the episode on Desperate Houswives when Gabby gets her drop off pass removed and has to park further and further away.
I get so freakin' made. It says no parking, but the parents park anyways. Ugh, or they don't pull forwards. Seriously people.
Then I'm yelling and my son to hurry up and sit down. He says, "calm down lady." I know it ticks me off when kids dawdle. I don't want to be the parent everyone is cussing at.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 12:34:30 PM

Suddenly every single child needs to be dropped off as close to door as possible? I do not have time to inch forward one car at a time.


I admit that I wait to drop him off closer to the door this time of year.

In the winter, for reasons I cannot figure out, the sidewalk isn't shoveled all the way to the end of the drop off lane. Only about half way down. So if I let him off at the end, he's trekking through snow, ice, slush, etc..

It's so odd.



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Posted: 2/6/2013 1:13:30 PM

Suddenly every single child needs to be dropped off as close to door as possible? I do not have time to inch forward one car at a time.


You don't expect them to get their $200 boots wet?





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Posted: 2/6/2013 1:47:17 PM
We had the trifecta this morning. Mom half pulls into the drop off area, blocking traffic so everyone trying to get into the school couldn't (totally ignores everyone honking behind her). Then she tries to double park because heaven forbid her child have to walk an additional 100 feet (she moves because all the cars behind her are honking since she is blocking traffic). Then when she finally does park she has to get out of her car, get her kid out on the drivers side, help her child put coat and back pack on, then sits and watches kid till he gets to the door. The whole time oblivious to the fact she is backing up EVERYONE else at prime drop off time.

I so wish my kids school had a Mr. B to train parents!

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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:32:24 PM
Our car-rider line (both elementary and middle school) is a well-oiled machine probably 95% of the time, but this:


Our Elementary School principal (Mr. B ) held trainings called "School drop-off/ pick-up 101" at the beginning of each school year. Most of the observations listed in the blog were covered in his "training".

You had to attend the training in order to get a sticker that allowed you to pull into the drop-off or pick-up lane. You were "Drop-off/Pick-up Lane Approved". If you didn't go to the training or if your car did not display the sticker, then you had to park in the other lot and had to walk up to retrieve your child.

If you committed some egregious act, your sticker was "revoked" and you had to attend the training again to get your sticker.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:52:48 PM

Our Elementary School principal (Mr. B ) held trainings called "School drop-off/ pick-up 101" at the beginning of each school year. Most of the observations listed in the blog were covered in his "training".

You had to attend the training in order to get a sticker that allowed you to pull into the drop-off or pick-up lane. You were "Drop-off/Pick-up Lane Approved". If you didn't go to the training or if your car did not display the sticker, then you had to park in the other lot and had to walk up to retrieve your child.

If you committed some egregious act, your sticker was "revoked" and you had to attend the training again to get your sticker.


I really like this idea, but how do you keep non-stickerd parents from barreling through the line anyway. I can't imagine anything as insignificant as permission stopping the parents from mucking up the drop off lane. It seems almost impossible to enforce without having someone stopping every car and verifying they have a sticker and directing traffic.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:32:35 PM
Mr. B. needs to take that show on the road!

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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:34:35 PM

What I'll never understand are the parents who have their child bussed to school, but sit at the bus stop IN THEIR CAR with Junior so he doesn't have to stand out in the cold to wait. Huh? I'm supposed to start my car, drive 200 feet to the corner and let it run, burn gas so you can be comfy cozy waiting for your bus?

And let's be clear, Junior is at least 14 years old. And we live in Delaware, not Alaska. 30 degrees for 10 minutes won't kill him - if he's wearing a coat. I swear, I can't stand to sit behind the bus in the morning while the driver is waiting for high school students taking their time to get out of dad's minivan!

We stood in the cold, rain, heat, whatever. Let your kid experience SOME discomfort while growing up. Sheesh.
Oh, my, I see this nearly every day during the winter. The middle school stop was moved from 2 doors down to in front of our house (I have no idea why) and there are stops approximately every 3 blocks or less in our development. I could ALMOST see if it were snowing hard or 10 degrees mom driving to the stop and dropping them. But these are not kids who are running late, and they are not dropped. Parents basically line up for the BUS 8-10 minutes before scheduled pickup and sit there. And yes, it's middle school, and yes they have jackets on and we live in CO. It gets cold but not THAT cold.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:49:33 PM

This thread reminds me of the episode on Desperate Houswives when Gabby gets her drop off pass removed and has to park further and further away.


Gwad I was trying to remember what show this episode was on... Wasn't it like everyday she was parking further and further away and all the moms giving her the stare down? So Funny!!

My kids always walked to school so no problems. They are both in high school now and don't have to deal with it.. But little Mandy will start K this fall and I probably will have to take her. It will be fun to see what kind of drama is ahead of me. I will say I would be the type to have her basically unbuckled and thrown out of the car before stopping.. (just kidding....) But seriously, I think I HAVE to walk her in to sign her in, so who knows what is going to happen..




yungmom
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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:57:33 PM

And pickup? We have all these entitled parents who feel free to pull up in front of everyone else rather than (God forbid!) just wait on the line.


So I've had this quandry. This is our parking lot (with blue and red cars):



You enter from the top right and turn right. When you hit the first circle it is the end of the drop off zone. When you hit the second it is the beginning. So the first car should pull all the way to the second circle. Then that car and all cars behind should let out children. If you finish before the line is done then you can go into the second lane and drive out.

What happens most often is the first car ( the red one) stops closest to the entrance and lets out a child. Then the next car pulls up to that spot and so on. Often the kids in my car are the only ones getting out except the first car.

So if this is happening is there anything wrong with pulling around to the second circle or somewhere in between the red car and the second circle to let out children.

I'm headed to pick up my oldest from school so will have to answer questions when I get back.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:22:00 PM
We have a similar scenario at my dd's school. My beef is at pickup time. The red car stops there like in your drawing instead of pulling all the way to the front of the line. Then, it sits there waiting for their kid to show up. In the meantime, everyone behind them is waiting and either their kid has to walk a lot longer distance to get into their car, or (in my case) my kid cannot even see me if the red car is a big SUV,(I drive a mini cooper) so they wait till red car moves and everyone else pulls up correctly. I have in these instances pulled around and in front of the red car. This only happens on pick-up times, though, because all the kids want to be let out at the front of the line at drop-off, but where the red car is is where the sidewalk comes out from where they are waiting to be picked up.





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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:39:23 PM
Our pickup for k-4 requires parents to park and walk in to get their child.

5-12 requires parents to park and your child finds you. People tend to use the same area of the parking lot regularly so the kids can find their vehicle pretty quickly.



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