Bedwetting in older kids.....do moisture alarms really work? Any other options??
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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:11:09 PM
My 8 yr. old daughter is still wetting the bed. She was wearing Pullups for several months and recently we have tried to wean her from wearing them (at her request). I came across an article on the use of moisture alarms in older kids... does it really work? If your child did use the moisture alarm, how long did it take for him/her to stop wetting the bed? I have tried limiting her liquids in the evening and even trying to wake her up during the night to use the bathroom.... she is really hard to get up.
She is trying so hard! She wants to go with her Girl Scout troop on this special sleepover at the aquariam... but she doesnt want to go with pullups, which I cant blame her.
Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:22:44 PM
DS had problems with wetting the bed. We never tried an alarm because he just slept too deep. He did eventually outgrow it around 11YO.

One option is to see your family doctor or even a urologist. They can prescribe DDAVP which can help stop bedwetting. Some kids use it just on certain occasions like sleepovers. Some kids use it for a period of time and then are able to get off of it.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:28:11 PM
Yes they really do work. I've used them with a few of my clients. The alarm is LOUD. It will wake her up, and it will startle her into stopping her pee so that she can get to the toilet to finish. It is designed to do go off as soon as the first drop of moisture hits the sensor.

Time needed varies by kid. Some kids only need it a few weeks, others need it for a few months.



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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:34:38 PM
Pierkiss - how is a moisture alarm used? Does it clip onto the underwear or pullup? How long would the child wear it? Would I need to get one through her doctor?
Thanks gals for the reponses.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:42:40 PM
Some kids just don't develop the bladder maturity until later. I'd check in with her doctor as well.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:42:51 PM
They did not work for us. My son would just turn it off, roll over and go back to sleep. My BFF tried them with her dd and had the same results. In her case, she would hear it go off and dash to her dd's room only to find her still asleep and wet. My son was a bed wetter until he was 10 and then just stopped suddenly. We tried everything before that and then relaxed and embraced the Good Nites (Pull-ups).


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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:48:56 PM
You should absolutely check with her doctor before you go this route. Just to make sure there isn't some underlying UTI or physical defect somewhere along her urinary system.

I am familiar with the Wet Stop alarm brand. You can order them online. The way that ours worked when we used them was you took the child's underwear, and sewed a little cotton pocket into the crotch part of the underwear. The sensor inserts into the pocket, and the alarm clipped to the back of the underwear/pants. You do not use it with pullups/diapers, as you need for the child and the sensor to feel the moisture. Child starts peeing, as soon as the moisture hits the sensor the alarm sounds, startling them into stopping and waking up, which would prompt them to get up to use the bathroom. Child wears it only during times they are prone to having accidents. In your case you would put it in place right before she goes to bed. She would wear it every night until she was successfully sleeping through the night with dry pants, or waking up to go to the bathroom without needing the alarm to sound.

Hope that helps!



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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:50:24 PM
It worked for my DD. She was completely dry within a month. She was also very motivated so that she could got to sleepovers and camp, so maybe that helps?

I was a bedwetter until high school, and my parents tried everything under the sun, including bladder surgery, so I was doubtful about the alarm. I was so pleased with the results, and it was so much better than medication.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:54:08 PM
DS just finally outgrew it. He comes from a line of bed-wetters, so it really was no surprise to us that he took so long to outgrow it.


We never tried the alarm, but it would have had to be wicked loud to work for DS. He shares a room with DS #2, and DS #1 would sleep through DS #2 waking up and crying at night. And he was loud.



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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:59:21 PM
We never tried it with our son, we would just wake him up and send him to the bathroom when we went to bed (around 10:30 or 11, so he had been in bed a few hours) and that worked for us, We would wait outside the door and listen, if he didn't pee then I would wake him up again when I woke up to utilize the facilities myself. Most times he would use it though the first time, we did this until he was 10 or so. He was just such a sound sleeper he wouldn't wake up. He was pretty entertaining when we would wake him up, say all sorts of crazy stuff, but he had idea we did this until he was much older and we were talking about all the crazy things he said.



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Posted: 2/5/2013 9:06:39 PM
it never worked with my kid...she wet the bed til 15. so for gs overnights..I just went along when she was small...and then she took care of it herself. the adults knew...and she just went to the bathroom and took care of it. pullups were not always adequate...so she brought along a separate back up sleeping bag.

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They did not work for us. My son would just turn it off, roll over and go back to sleep. My BFF tried them with her dd and had the same results. In her case, she would hear it go off and dash to her dd's room only to find her still asleep and wet. My son was a bed wetter until he was 10 and then just stopped suddenly. We tried everything before that and then relaxed and embraced the Good Nites (Pull-ups).


This was the case at our house too. Then overnight around age 9, the bedwetting just stopped. I think there is a hormone your body makes to regulate night time bedwetting and some kids just don't produce it until a later age. I would not waste your money on the alarm and would suggest letting her keep wearing the big kid pullups that look like underwear and wait it out. What we did for sleepovers is I would go pick my child up at 11pm or midnight once most of the fun was over and everyone was going to bed. Just said my child wasn't comfortable sleeping away from home. It made for late nights for me, but it was worth it for my kid to feel included with friends. Another option is to see if your doctor can prescribe the medication that can be taken occasionally to stop the bedwetting. That would work for the special sleepover.

You can order the alarms on the internet. No prescription needed. If I remember you have to sew a velcro or a pocket on the pajamas, both the top and bottoms. The one on the top is for the alarm part that is attached by wire to the one in the underwear/bottoms. The one in the bottoms is very thin so it doesn't bother the child. If your child sweats much it can set it off too.

Most of these kids are very deep sleepers and they just don't wake up to the alarm even when it is loud enough to wake others in the same house. Does your child wake up to a nearby smoke detector if it goes off? At the very least I would test that after your child is asleep or set an alarm clock to go off nearby and see if she wakes up. If she doesn't, I wouldn't bother investing in the bedwetting alarm. Our doctor suggested the alarm saying that it worked in a few cases so I figured it was worth a try. I really wish someone had mentioned testing to see if my kid would wake up to any alarm before I spent the money. After that I was always worried my kid would not wake up to the smoke detector if there was a real fire too.

Good luck and please don't worry. Most kids do eventually outgrow this problem, but I know how hard it can be in the mean time. I think you would be shocked to learn how many of your dd's classmates have the same problem but no one talks about it.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 10:18:56 PM
For sleepovers my son would just take his Goodnites and a ziplock bag. In the morning when he got up, he would go to the bathroom and change. I gave the mom a heads up, but his friends never knew.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 10:23:04 PM


My son's friend had a problem until he was 10-11 yo. His mom finally got a prescription from the dr. It was a savior for her, as it was near impossible for him to go to a sleepover. He actually had an accident on our couch during a sleepover, after his refusal to wear pull-ups at that age.

It worked great.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:00:18 PM

Yes they really do work. I've used them with a few of my clients. The alarm is LOUD. It will wake her up, and it will startle her into stopping her pee so that she can get to the toilet to finish.


It didn't work for me as a child. I just slept through it. It woke everyone else up, though.

I stopped at 10-11 years old.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:04:50 PM
Thanks for all the replys. I did take my daughter to the doctor a couple of months ago and he gave me a couple of behavioral tactics to try. I did try them but did not have success. I then just started waking her up at midnight to see if she had to use the bathroom... but most of the time, she would not get up.

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My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:19:39 PM
My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:19:55 PM
My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:21:38 PM
My dd is 11, and still has this issue. We've spoken with the Dr. over the years and he says eventually she should grow out of it. It just takes some time for some kids.

I just go with the flow. Nothing we can do but wait. I have not tried the alarm as I'm not convinced it would work with her. We may try it eventually. Last year her Dr. gave her a prescription for pills to take to stop the urination at night. They have worked great. Before these we were using good nights and at sleep overs, I would have a word with the mom giving her the lowdown. My dd was well prepared to handle things herself but I wanted the mom to know incase she was needed.

She gets upset because she can't control it and feels she's too old to still be doing it. For a few years we would wake her before we went to bed or during the night if I got up. But she still sleeps like a log.

So for now we just use the pills. Good luck.


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Posted: 2/5/2013 11:57:02 PM
Dd used the alarm and it worked very well. It woke DH and me up also, but it broke her from bed wetting in less than a month. It was a miracle for our family.

We didn't really want to go the medication route, but she was really embarrassed by the situation, so our dr recommended the alarm. We ordered it from amazon. It also vibrates. I thought she'd sleep right through it, and I was very skeptical. I wish I'd done it years before because the besetting was lowering her self esteem.

Occasionally she still has a little accident, but she is able to wake up before it gets too bad and get to the bathroom. She's 9, and I think we started the alarm when she was 8.
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Several years ago I read some studies regarding a link between bed-wetting and mouth-breathers. I don't recall the details but the jist was that kids who mouth-breath while sleeping tend to wet because of the change in blood pH led to urintion. Many times, surgery to remove the adenoids help with bed-wetting, snoring, and ultimately more restful sleep.



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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:53:52 AM
Yes! Ds was 8 when it was recommended by his Doctor. It was a large rubber mat that was placed beneath his sheet and it was LOUD. We hired it for one month but it worked after just two nights. He never wet the bed again. He is 14 now and would be mortified if he knew I was telling this story.

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Yup. Urologist recommended it, I was dubious. Worked!


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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:17:23 AM
dh and I were both bedwetters until out early teens.. we cursed our pook kids..lol I've never tried the alarm, but we do use ddavp for the older boys for sleep overs and goodnites for our younger daughter. One thing I could recommend is invest in a heavy duty mattress protector. You can get them for a decent price on a medical supply store.

One thing I will caution against is heavy medical testing. My mother was a nurse and insisted on testing for me. I still remember the horrible painful things she put me through only to find I was perfectly fine. (Our ped believes testing should only be done on an older child who had been dry then SUDDENLY starts wetting the bed)

Poor dh had parents who truly didn';t understand he wasn't doing it on purpose and punished him harshly.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:05:55 AM
My nephew is college age and he had a problem with bedwetting into high school. He went regularly to the doctor and specialist. In his case, it was determined that lunch meat and drinking soda too late in the day were both contributors. He has been able to work around it.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:14:57 AM
We traveled this road, until age 11. DS was a combo of
very heavy sleeper, teeny bladder, and too much water
during the day (especially Gym days, when he drank the
most water).

We waited it out because we didn't think he would get up with the alarm,
and we personally didn't want to do meds.
Never made a big deal about it, talked about bladder size,
got him up before we went to bed, etc.

But he *did* tell me he would wake up around 3 or 4 and not want
to get out of bed ... which was probably his body telling him he had to go
So now he gets himself up when he wakes during the night.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:16:02 AM
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this. DD is 5 and a half and still wets the bed. She's having a few other bathroom-related issues that we're actually going to the pediatrician for today. It helps to see that I'm not the only one that's dealt with/dealing with this!


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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:16:49 AM
My parents bought one for me when I was six. It did work.

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Several years ago I read some studies regarding a link between bed-wetting and mouth-breathers. I don't recall the details but the jist was that kids who mouth-breath while sleeping tend to wet because of the change in blood pH led to urintion. Many times, surgery to remove the adenoids help with bed-wetting, snoring, and ultimately more restful sleep.


I've also seen studies that link bed wetting to sleep apnea - just something to keep in mind if your child has any of the other symptoms.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 9:46:51 AM
My dd just eventually out grew it. I don't remember exactly how old she was. It was just something that happened and we dealt with it.

I bought two or three water proof mattress covers and a double/triple sheeted her bed. Mattress cover, sheets, mattress cover, sheets, etc. Then when it happened it was a quick and easy strip the wet sheet and cover and back to sleep.

But in my dd's case it wasn't every single night, just usually when she was extra tired from a busy day. So maybe that makes a difference.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 9:47:16 AM

Many times, surgery to remove the adenoids help with bed-wetting, snoring, and ultimately more restful sleep.


Had my tonsils/adenoids out when I was 2 1/2 but it didn't help.
Maybe works for other bed wetters.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 8:07:53 PM
Acupuncture worked for my dd when she was 8. She had only been dry a handful of times at night. We had tried waking her but she couldn't wake up enough to release her urine. She was bothered by overnights with friends and wearing pullups or I would have waited it out. My DH had been seeing an older Chinese woman for acupuncture so we took my daughter to her. She looked in her eyes and at her hands and said her kidneys were out of balance. She said it would take about 5 treatments to balance everything. After 2 she never wet the bed again. We did have to bribe her to go to the first visit but after she realized that the needles didn't hurt, she was fine to go back.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 9:24:47 PM
***Post is not from a parent of a bedwetter (no kids).****


I was a bedwetter as a kid. It always happened at home, and never on the road.

The moisture alarms never worked for me. I slept too deep and I would never hear them. Nothing ever really worked for me. I outgrew it when I was around 12.

I do remember that I did wet the bed when I was more upset/stressed than normal.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 10:44:32 PM

Several years ago I read some studies regarding a link between bed-wetting and mouth-breathers. I don't recall the details but the jist was that kids who mouth-breath while sleeping tend to wet because of the change in blood pH led to urintion. Many times, surgery to remove the adenoids help with bed-wetting, snoring, and ultimately more restful sleep.



This is what worked for my nephew.




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