Another question about what you let your kids do?
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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:02:36 AM
How strict are you about your HS student missing school, leaving early, etc.? DD just called me to see if she could leave school because she has cramps and I tried to talk her into taking an Alleve and staying in school and she got all snotty with me.

Yet, her friends miss school because they have to watch their younger siblings, because an album is being released and other stupid stuff that I can't even remember.

Of course, I get judged as the mean mom!

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:04:20 AM
Unless they are sick they only get one day per school year they may miss. I know there are time kids and adult just need a day off. They can use there free day any time however they never get more then one day a school year.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:05:06 AM
Luckily I don't have to deal with that with DD. She's a senior too and doesn't want to miss any days. She will be able to exempt out of her finals if she has an A average in the class with only 2 absences or a B average with only 1 absence.

I would stick with being the "mean mom". Good Luck!



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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:06:26 AM
My parents never had a say when or if I left school. I left when I needed (or wanted) to leave and they (to my knowlege) never knew. I called myself in sick when I was in high school, and my mom would call me in before that if I needed to skip for a mental health day or whatever. I never abused it so I was allowed to pretty much do what ever I wanted.

That has remained standard with my nieces and nephews. So if your 17 year old wants to leave, then she should, that's her prerogative. I don't think you should have a say in it, particularly at 17. She knows what she'll miss, she should know the ramifications, it's her decision to make.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:07:19 AM
That's a tough one -- for me it would depend on if she's just "uncomfortable" or if she gets the horrible, doubling-over cramps and all that.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:08:37 AM
when dd was a senior i pretty much left it up to her. she wan't a kid to miss school for non sense

she did have classes that had attendence requirements - such as missing finals and the other was a technical class that had a certification at the end...and it required a certain number of class hours

as a senior she was a year away from being in college and while in college attendence is up to her

i'd have recommened a pain reliever and if that didn't work...the afternoon at home

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:10:38 AM
DS does not want to miss school because of the work he would have to make up. He already has enough homework without makeup work on top of it!


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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:15:03 AM
I leave it up to the kids. They've never abused it.Their grades are good and they've had good judgement about it.

DS is a freshman, and he rarely misses school. He's only asked to stay home when he's been sick or feels a migraine coming on.

When DD was a senior, she skipped study halls and the occasional class. It was never an issue, and it didn't affect her school work, which is why I didn't nix it. Again, she has good judgement.

If it was for something dumb or they didn't have good grades or they'd be missing something important, I wouldn't go for it. But that's not happened with my kids.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:15:18 AM

That has remained standard with my nieces and nephews. So if your 17 year old wants to leave, then she should, that's her prerogative. I don't think you should have a say in it, particularly at 17. She knows what she'll miss, she should know the ramifications, it's her decision to make.


Until the school stops making a note from a parent upon return or a call to the nurse to leave early, I still think it is my decision.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:19:43 AM
I have missed work because of cramps, as have many of my coworkers. I have always had really horrible periods with intense cramping and heavy bleeding. So before I found a solution to this, I would miss work for it - too often, in fact, at least one day a month and sometimes two. So I would have a hard time telling a teenager, whose periods are likely to be heavy, painful, and irregular for a time, to just suck it up and deal.

If she was missing school, however, I would find a way to reduce that need - I would front-load Motrin the day her period starts and the day before if it could be predicted, because that works really well to reduce both pain and bleeding. And I am that mom who would put her on oral contraceptives to reduce the pain and bleeding too, if she was amenable to that. It's made all the difference for me and I haven't missed work in a year because of it.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:20:23 AM
If they are sick I will let them stay home. They've never asked to stay home 'just because' to goof off.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:22:37 AM
I would not let my son leave early or take days off unless he was truly very sick once he started junior high. (He's a freshman now) I was more lax in elementary school because his grades were very good and his teachers worked with us on days off, etc. His grades plummeted in Jr.High though, so days off, early outs, etc. were not an option!

However, if my dd called me (she's only in 7th) and told me she had cramps, I would let her go home early. She is a straight A+ student though.

So for me, I guess it's a "can s/he afford to miss a few hours" and is the reason really valid.



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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:24:13 AM
If their grades are really good and they are focused and working hard I cut them some slack. If they are likely to miss for stupid stuff I don't. They save the "Get out of school free" card for when they really need it. I have one now that I'd let get out of school for a hangnail because she works herself to death.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:26:19 AM
I think it comes down to you knowing your child. Is she in real, distracting pain or is she milking it a bit? I'm not heartless...if they were honestly struggling to concentrate because of cramps or whatever then fine, she could come home, but if I felt she was exaggerating it a bit for whatever reason then no, take a painkiller and work through it.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:26:28 AM

So if your 17 year old wants to leave, then she should, that's her prerogative. I don't think you should have a say in it, particularly at 17. She knows what she'll miss, she should know the ramifications, it's her decision to make.


Um, no. She's 17, not 18, still a minor and under my roof and by state law still required to go to school. I like the idea of giving HS aged kids one mental health / sort of sick day per school year. They get to choose when or if to spend it and then that's it. My dd has several kids in her school that go to the nurse and want to come home at the slightest sniffle or upset. I think that sends the wrong message.

It sucks being the mean mom, but one day your dd will appreciate it and be better off for it. There will be a day that she has cramps and isn't feeling well and has a looming deadline for her employer. Will she stay home and not complete it? Probably not. Unfortunately there are times we just have to suck it up and work through the pain or illness.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:27:40 AM
I've let my daughter come home with cramps before. She was a good student and a dedicated athlete and I knew if she was asking to come home it was because she felt like crap.

I've also let my kids have 'well days' and allowed them to stay home just because. Not often, maybe once or twice a school year...and certainly not if they got snotty with me on the occasion I said no.

But they carry a heavy load and sometimes, just like me, they need a break...just to be.

All of that, of course, is contingent on the types of students they are both before and after rewards like those...but so far, they haven't disappointed in that area.

ETA -- I also balk at the idea of my kid asking for free days just because. My son got into that habit...he's an aide first block and after a couple scheduled doctor's appointments during that time, he began to take it for granted and started asking to skip. Those are the times I say no without question.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:36:19 AM
Staying home or leaving early unless sick was not an option when I was in school and it wasn't an option for our daughter unless she was truly sick. Our son had perfect attendance through high school and earned a $100 savings bond from a local bank for his perfect attendance. With the amount of vacation time and the weekends off, that's more than enough"mental health" time to rest.



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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:37:24 AM
I let my kids (almost 16 and 12) have mental health days once in awhile. For cramps, I would definitely let my 15 yo DD come home.



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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:41:41 AM
I have told my high school kid that if he ever needs to stay home or come home in the middle of the day, just do it, and I will call in to excuse him later. I also told him to bypass the visit to the nurse where he'd be exposed to more germs and made to wait. He is a senior this year, and I think he has stayed home twice and left early once in his four years of high school.

He has missed a couple of days here and there when he wasn't sick. We took him and his best friend out of school a day and a half early for a spring-break trip to Hungry last year. He missed a class to go to a guitar clinic Joe Satriani. These may sound like "stupid reasons," but I felt that the educational value of both was important enough to allow him to miss.

My kid is a runner, and he has missed class before when he's been with the high school team, but he has also tried to plan it where he can be in as much of class as possible. If the rest of the team is getting out at 1:30 so the bus can take them to a meet and be back for the afternoon runs, he'll drive himself or arrange for a ride so he can leave class at 2:15.

In your daughter's case, I'd probably let her come home, especially if she is not the kind of kid to abuse the privilege. Pain is subjective, and if she feels she can't concentrate in school because of pain, she should be allowed to be at home. For the future, try to be proactive with the pain reliever in the morning. If her period pain continues to be debilitating, I'd ask the doctor about other things she might be able to do.

I don't judge you as a mean mom. You know your daughter best, and you can set standards for your kids and their school attendance. I do think, however, that you might be judging your daughter's pain level by how you have experienced cramps, and they may be two very different things.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:07:24 PM
No missing school unless you are really truly sick. However, my kids would not be allowed to just take an Alleve at school...not unless we already had a signed medication form in the nurses office. The kids can't carry around medication and if caught taking an Alleve on their own, could be suspended.

My dd just got spacers for her braces. She was in a lot of pain in the afternoon last week. Dh had to drive there to give her some Advil.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:11:49 PM
Unless my oldest was barfing up a lung, I made her go to school. She was convinced constantly that she was sick. I counted one year the number of times she asked to stay home - 18! That is 10% of the school year. I would have given her a "free day" like I give her brothers but she couldn't afford it.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:34:55 PM
I do not have teenagers, but my mother's position when I was in high school was that I was a good student with no behavioral issues and a taxing extracurricular schedule, and if, on occasion, I needed a break, she was happy to let me take one.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:52:14 PM
Our general rule is that without an illness or doc/dentist appointment, you go to school and stay there the whole day.

With our daughter, we started bending that a bit last year during her Senior year, especially toward the end of the year when she wasn't doing much of anything. Nothing crazy but I did give her a note to leave early once or twice and allowed her to skip one day just because. She earned that after 13 years of giving her all 99% of the time.

And any child of mine that gets snotty with me because they don't like an answer to a request will be regretting that attitude for some time. I swear, I can put up with just about anything else!

ETA: My kids do get the benefit of the doubt, so I'd probably go get my daughter if she called because of cramps. It's harder with my son because he tries to stay home at least once a week. And I can't tell you how many times I've gotten called by the school nurse because he's "sick".


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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:54:27 PM

That has remained standard with my nieces and nephews. So if your 17 year old wants to leave, then she should, that's her prerogative. I don't think you should have a say in it, particularly at 17. She knows what she'll miss, she should know the ramifications, it's her decision to make.


As long as *I* am the one who could be pulled into the school board's office or some truancy court, I will continue to have input on this with my child(ren). Under 18 means I am responsible for your behavior as your parent, that means I do get a say and then some.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 1:17:17 PM
My kids can not miss school after 8th grade without consequences. The consequences are not mine but the schools. Our school district accepts 0 absences without a DR note. Any other 'excused absences' have to have prior approval with the exception of a death/emergency in the immediate family which requires a meeting with the school attendance officer when you get back to have an excuse absence. They know the consequences and if they can deal with it and not suffer grade pt loss that is up to them.


They have not asked to miss school yet though because they miss too much work that way. I personally do not have an issue with taking a 'mental health day' once in a blue moon but there are repercussions and they have to be prepared for those. Just like adults.

I hate our school absentee policy it promotes children coming to school with the flu and many other illnesses. In addition to the stinky absentee policy, the high school nurse never sends any one home. Pretty much ever.



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Posted: 3/1/2013 2:59:12 PM
There has to be a fever, puking or bone sticking out or major blood loss before mine stay home.

Only time I broke above rule was a few years ago for DD. She was exhausted. Huge bags under her eyes, she was practically incoherent. I made her go to bed (it was 6pm) and it was all we could do to wake her up in the AM. She fell asleep on the toilet!
I told her to go back to bed and she slept for almost twelve hours. Whatever was going on, she needed that day off.




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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:33:04 PM
No kids yet -- but my mom never let me stay home except for illness (cramps included -- and mine were awful, so I was never in class during my cycle).

There were a few exeptions -- death in the family, a trip to Italy to see family (I was on independant study though for those 2 weeks), and needing to go out of the county on a weekday to get custom figure skates fitted.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:51:30 PM
I've always treated school just like a job. My kids always had to go t school unless they were sick. Luckily, my kids both liked school, so it has never really been an issue.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:53:31 PM
Mine is only in 2nd grade, so having perfect attendance is HER goal right now. I'm hoping it stays that way... but I remember myself in HS, so I doubt it! I think we'll be the type to let her stay home if she's really sick but not for much else.








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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:54:58 PM
I don't have teenagers yet, but when I was one, as long as I kept straight A's my parents would excuse any absences that I had at school. I remember leaving early every once in awhile, or taking a skip day if I knew it wouldn't affect my grade. I generally held the highest rank in my classes, so I was never too worried about missing some none-essential class periods - filler days with movies etc.



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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:57:47 PM
I let DD miss a lot when she was in school. She was sick often and we didn't have a diagnosis yet. She did all her work and got straight A's and had the highest percentages in her classes.
She wanted to be there but just didn't feel well enough to.

DS doesn't want to miss. Ever.
He's a freshman and has had perfect attendance since he started school.

I would have no problem with him missing if he needs a mental health day but he wouldn't want to


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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:59:41 PM
Without having to do anything about it my son never misses school unless it is an extremely good reason. He missed 7 days this year. All because he had surgery. He hasn't missed any other days in 7 years except when we left a day before Thanksgiving vacation for Disney. My dh and I don't use sick days and I'm not sure if it rubbed off or if he is like this on his own.


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I think it comes down to you knowing your child. Is she in real, distracting pain or is she milking it a bit? I'm not heartless...if they were honestly struggling to concentrate because of cramps or whatever then fine, she could come home, but if I felt she was exaggerating it a bit for whatever reason then no, take a painkiller and work through it.

I agree with Gar. I worked in a jr high office, and we would see a couple of kids who really seemed to be milking any little ache and pain. Some kids just do that, either because they are having a tough time academically (as, I have a Geometry test in 2 hours I didn't study enough for), have a touch of hypochondria, or whatever. It was interesting that when I'd call the parent, whose job it was to make the decision, they were usually onto the kid. If they weren't vomiting or running a fever, if the parent told them to stay, they stayed.

My kids hate missing school because of the make-up work to be done, so I don't have the issue to worry about. But some parents do have a dilemma in which they aren't always sure the child is really ill enough to come home.

On the issue of 'mental health' days, those bug me. I also encourage my teenage children to treat school as they would a job. I've seen people carrying that practice over into the workplace. funny thing is, they fill their weekends with all sorts of fun and interesting activities, then somehow they need a day of rest on, say, Thursday.

It's in part because of the common practice of taking sick days when you aren't really sick that companies have stopped giving an allotment of sick days. That means people who are truly ill either come to work or use up vacation time (my sister did a lot of coming in sick) or banked comp time (dh's employer requres them to have 50 hours of unpaid overtime banked every year, and that's what sick time comes from - they are expected to replenish it within a month with more unpaid overtime). Yeah, not a fan of teaching kids to take mental health days.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:09:42 PM

(dh's employer requres them to have 50 hours of unpaid overtime banked every year, and that's what sick time comes from - they are expected to replenish it within a month with more unpaid overtime).

How is that even legal? Uncompensated overtime is a violation of federal labor laws.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:10:38 PM

How is that even legal? Uncompensated overtime is a violation of federal labor laws.
Not for exempt employees.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:17:05 PM
Depends on the kid. Good student who rarely misses, i'd probably have no problem. A kid who wasn't doing well and who would look for any excuse to miss, probably wouldn't get too much sympathy!

As far as what other kids are doing, unless you know firsthand that they are missing for those reasons I wouldn't buy it. And even if it's true, great for their family not for ours!

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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:25:34 PM
My older girls (8th, 10th) don't like to miss school, so we mostly don't have issues like that. They have all A's and are serious students.

The last day of school before the holiday break, there was a rumor of a big shooting at school. On the news but no credible threat. My daughter said everyone was skipping but we made her go. We said it is just a rumor. She told us that she was glad she went, only half the kdis were there and the teachers gave the kids that went extra credit!

Another time a friend asked her to skip to go skiing with her. We said no way! She agreed that she should not miss school for htat.

So, in answer to your question, we are strict about not missing school.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:31:00 PM
As long as they are doing fine in school, I would let them leave.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:46:22 PM
Like irishscrappermom, My kids are in school unless they have a fever. I even sent my little guy back to class with a broken arm when he was 3 (I didn't know it was broken; there was no bone sticking out...)

One time I did let a kid stay home fever-free because he literally could not go 2 minutes without coughing. He hadn't slept for the cough, his face was puffy, and he was a snot factory. I figured his teachers would hate me if I sent him, and he would've been useless as a student anyway.

I don't stay home for mental health days, and neither do my kids. Does that make me mentally unhealthy?

As a teacher, I see how disruptive it is when kids miss school for any reason.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 4:51:30 PM
If my kids feel bad, I let them stay home. They don't abuse it though, so that makes a difference. My DD in high school doesn't want to miss, because she will have to take final exams. My son in 5th grade does really well in class, so I don't think he is going to fall too far behind if he isn't there every once in a while (if he is sick).
I'm a teacher, and believe me, we WANT them to stay home when they are sick!



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Posted: 3/1/2013 5:25:11 PM
Well, according to my 15yo DD, I have a heart of stone LOL, because I generally don't let her miss school if she has cramps. I'm like you, I would give her a Panadol, a kiss on the cheek, and a "Suck it up buttercup"!

DD's dad used to take her out of school for a one week vacation every year. She has just started Year 10, and I have told him that she will not be missing any more school for vacations. She is usually an A student but got a D and a Not Assessed for Geography last year because she missed 4 lessons in the second semester, mainly due to the trip to Fiji they took.

ETA: DD was horrified that I let 8yo DS have a day off school for a bee sting. He got stung on the sole of his foot and it swelled up a lot, and he couldn't walk. DD was like "You would NEVER have let me have the day off for a bee sting!"

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Posted: 3/1/2013 5:31:04 PM
One other thing I have noticed amongst my school mum friends is that parents who work full time let their kids stay home less than those who are SAHMs.

Both DSO and I work full time so it takes some planning if one of the kids can't go to school. Obviously if they are *really* sick one of us will stay home, but cramps or a headache is not enough of a reason.

I have friends who are SAHMs and a couple of them let their kids stay home for the most minor reasons. For example, if the kid is too tired!

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Posted: 3/1/2013 5:42:44 PM

I think it comes down to you knowing your child.


Completely agree.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 6:06:35 PM

One other thing I have noticed amongst my school mum friends is that parents who work full time let their kids stay home less than those who are SAHMs.

Both DSO and I work full time so it takes some planning if one of the kids can't go to school. Obviously if they are *really* sick one of us will stay home, but cramps or a headache is not enough of a reason.

I have friends who are SAHMs and a couple of them let their kids stay home for the most minor reasons. For example, if the kid is too tired!
That may be true in general. It IS simpler when a kid is iffy to err on the side of letting them stay home when you don't have to take off work. However, I'm a SAHM and I'm a bear when one of my kids wants to stay home. They'd better be either contagious or pretty darned incapacitated if they are going to miss school.


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Posted: 3/1/2013 6:31:28 PM
He must be puking in front of me or have a fever to miss school. I'm not one to let him skip just cause.


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