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Posted: 5/3/2013 5:51:49 PM
until my kids were of age where they wanted braces.

My daughter, who is now 23 years of age, failed to wear her retainer regularly so her teeth shifted and she needs new braces. If she wants them again, she has to pay for them.

My son, who is 14, had a horrible over-bite and his orthodontia care began when he was 8. First head gear, followed by a bite plate, then the full hardware. He finally got his braces removed on his 14th birthday.

He broke sooooooo many brackets until we wised up and made him pay for broken brackets. I spent the last couple of years nagging him to wear his bands and now I am having to constantly nag him to wear his retainer. It is exhausting.

Honestly, I almost wish I hadn't provided ortho for them and I know so many families facing the same thing. Some kids are getting braces twice. I refuse to pay for braces more than once per person and I think if people are forced to wait until they are of age where the appreciate the time/money/effort they would be more responsible.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 5:54:05 PM
My brother had to have braces as an adult due to an injury (broke his jaw skiing).

Braces as an adult SUCK.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 5:55:59 PM
I was 16 when I started my braces, surgeries, retainers. I appreciated them. I never needed nagging, did all I was told.
That comes after years of being teased and ridiculed and called Sharky.
My daughter had her stuff done at 8. There was NO way I was going to let her go through the teasing and ridicule that I did.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 5:56:41 PM
My son didn't get his braces on until he was a freshman in high school. We had a consult early on but we were told to wait until his baby teeth were all out and he didn't lose his last one until the summer after 8th grade. He got his braces on right before 9th grade started.

I don't have anything to compare it to since he's the oldest and I never needed braces. My husband had them but he was also in high school. DS has been pretty good about caring for them, has only broken one bracket, and I've only had to nag minimally, mostly concerning flossing.

He's getting them off in two weeks and we'll see how he is about the retainer. I know my husband didn't wear his enough and his bottom teeth shifted some but not enough to spend the money to correct them again. I have a feeling my husband is going to be the main one nagging about the retainer.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:02:55 PM

That comes after years of being teased and ridiculed and called Sharky.
My daughter had her stuff done at 8. There was NO way I was going to let her go through the teasing and ridicule that I did.


I don't think my son has any idea what his life could have been like without ortho care. It really frustrates me that he is taking it all for granted.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:03:34 PM
I am so thankful my parents paid for my braces. If not I probably would have never had the opportunity to have beautiful teeth. I had a terrible underbite and my canines grew in the roof of my mouth etc etc. It was a hot mess!!

I was supposed to wear my retainers regularly and I did for the first couple years but then when I got married and we moved they disappeared some where and we didn't have the money to buy new ones at the time. Thankfully only my bottom teeth have shifted.

You want the best for your kids and try to do everything for them to have it, then they just let it go. I understand. But they'll thank you someday. As far as your dd goes that really sucks but it will be an expensive lesson she might have to learn the hard way. Listen to the orthodontist. Wear your retainers!


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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:10:05 PM
I am SO glad I got braces as a teen. I feel doubly fortunate because I got them for free via a special program (orthodontists donate their time). So, there was no way I was going to not appreciate that.

My DS is 8 and has already had the $1,800 palate expander. I have misgivings about the whole process, but I just feel like it's something we need to do if we have the means. I expect there will be some guilt-trips and lectures directed his way.

DH had braces as an adult (he was hit in the jaw by a thief and it misaligned everything so he had to have them) and he had a much tougher time of it than I did as a teen, and my teeth had been awful.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:20:35 PM
I had braces when I was teen and then again as an adult. I have one stubborn tooth on the bottom that keeps shifting backwards and I thought with the invisalign it would fix it. Nope, many years later it shifted back again, but you can't really tell unless you look down on it. Wore retainers both time.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:20:58 PM
My DD is 19 and her teeth have already shifted. I'm glad she had braces because she needed them but wish she would have worn her retainer. I do feel we wasted some money though.

My DS is 16. Our dentist said he needed braces. Our orthodontist said it was not a necessity. DS opted against them. He does not have an overbite. Top teeth are pretty straight but his bottom teeth are slightly crowded. He is okay with it.
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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:41:11 PM
My 22 year old and 17 year old both started treatment fairly young and I had no problems with either of them breaking brackets or anything else. My 22 year old still puts her retainers in most nights, and my 17 year old son wears his religiously every night- he is so happy with his teeth that he is very committed.

I just think it depends on the child. Here, orthodontic treatment is free for kids that meet the criteria set by the government ( they have to need braces pretty badly, now.) the is a nominal charge if a child habitually breaks braces but amongst my friends, few children have and certainly not more than twice .


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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:45:31 PM
My daughter had her braces for five years, starting when she was 9. She wears her retainer religiously.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:46:54 PM
We did wait but I don't think long enough.

Braces may suck as an adult but at least you are usually aware of the expense and care that is needed to take care of your teeth.

I've had 3 of my 4 kids in braces and 1 more will be up and coming. He is only 7 but we will wait until all of his teeth fall out.

My SIL had braces 2 times as a child for a total of thousands of $$$.. I saw her last yr. with them on again! What a waste of money!

My who is 24 has a messed up mouth now since he doesn't wear his retainers. I look at him and think ....I could have had 5000$!




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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:51:23 PM
We wish we would have never spent the money on our step-son for his braces. No one makes him wear his retainer, however he does have a built in retainer on the bottom, not sure of top that should keep them straight. I had braces as a kid and now 25+years later my bottom teeth have shifted like crazy, I could feel them moving.
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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:51:45 PM
My DD has braces after years of being self conscious about her teeth. She had to wait so long because we had to wait for some adult teeth to come through and about a year of a palate expander. She couldn't wait to get braces so I am hoping that she appreciates them and will wear her retainer when the braces come off. I can imagine how annoying and tedious it must be to always have to nag your child to wear the retainer.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 8:04:51 PM
I think that really depends on the child. My dd had her braces put on when she was just starting 7th grade and had them taken off about 18 months later. She is now 18 and graduating from high school and has worn her retainer (almost) every night since then.

My son had his braces put on right before he started 8th grade in Aug. 2012. He's had to wear special bite guards on the back of his front teeth and has worn rubberbands since the 2nd month he had them. I've never had to nag at him to brush better or wear his bands. Actually, the ortho always compliments on how well he's brushing and how he can tell he's wearing the rubber bands and says that is rare for boys his age.

Believe me, we have issues with each of the kids but their orthodontia hasn't been one of them.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 8:18:11 PM
I don't know, I can see what you mean, but to me it's part of being a parent. DD did her first round at 8. Her mouth was such a mess it was interfering with her ability to eat. Frankly I wish we could have done it sooner before bad habits (like biting off food from the side of her mouth) developed. It took longer to break those than she wore the braces.

I argue with her every night about wearing/cleaning her retainers. But I also argue with her about taking medicine when she needs it, cleaning her room, taking a shower, eating fruit instead of candy, etc. the retainers are no different, and just like I wouldn't let her not take needed medicine just because it was a fight, I wouldn't not fix her teeth.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 8:26:36 PM
I got braces at 19 and paid for them myself. I got a permanent retainer after I lost my other retainer and never looked back. My teeth have still shifted a little and when I lost a bracket I ended up needing braces again for a short time but sometimes teeth just move.

All this to say - permanent retainers are awesome and if your son doesn't have one, seriously look into it. It takes so much of the stress of remembering to wear it out and you can't see them. My teeth will always move (I'm lucky that way!) so I will have this retainer forever and I'm happy to have it there.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 8:27:20 PM
I had braces in highschool.

I wore a permanent retainer for 15 years without any problems.

I will do the same for my 13 yr old that has had braces twice.

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Posted: 5/3/2013 8:46:16 PM
I hear you! We haven't been through what you've been through. Our son only had braces for just under 2 years. He too is often found without his retainers. He has two sets: an Invisalign set and a standard set for night time. I have told him I won't pay for another round of braces but he couldn't care less. Ugh.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 10:04:30 PM

I argue with her every night about wearing/cleaning her retainers. But I also argue with her about taking medicine when she needs it, cleaning her room, taking a shower, eating fruit instead of candy, etc. the retainers are no different, and just like I wouldn't let her not take needed medicine just because it was a fight, I wouldn't not fix her teeth.


I'm sorry but that sounds exhausting.

My ODS, 15, didn't need braces after all. Our Ortho is very conservative and prefers the wait and see approach. DD does have braces. Got them a couple of months before her 14th birthday in Feb. No nagging here. thank goodness.

YDS will likely need braces but again Ortho is waiting and observing, waiting for all teeth to fall out and grow in. YDS is 11, 12 in Aug.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 10:11:42 PM

My brother had to have braces as an adult due to an injury (broke his jaw skiing).

Braces as an adult SUCK.


No they don't. I got them when I was 25, and had them removed at 28. I still have perfect teeth 12 years later. I wear my retainer every other night. I paid over 5k for my teeth...no way in HELL am I letting these babies shift.



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Posted: 5/3/2013 10:18:01 PM
We are waiting for my youngest, now nearly 12, to get all her adult teeth before starting braces. We started at 8with my oldest, and she wore braces for 2 years, them when her adult molars came in needed them again. I am seriously questioning why we did all that at 8!

Youngest dds teeth were as awful and scary as oldest, but over time from8-11, they have straightened out, fit, and settled. When they all come in, she will need braces, but not the palate expanded, double braces oldest did. I really think had we waited with older DD, we would have saved major bucks and she would have far less time in braces. Also oldest had terrible problems eating with the expander, and cavities from the braces because she has no enamel on some teeth as a hereditary thing. Waiting would have meant she was older and more able to deal with the nygeine issues she couldn't really deal with at 8.

I see nothing wrong, and many benefits, to waiting until a child is an older teen to do braces. They can take of them much better, and you don't have to worry about adult molars coming in and messing stuff up!

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Posted: 5/3/2013 10:19:57 PM
I got braces when I was eight. That was in 1969 and I was an oddity. Most kids were getting their braces just as mine were coming off. I'm glad my parents didn't wait. I had a horrible case of buck teeth. Unfortunately, when you get braces that young, you often need a second round later on. I didn't get that second round and I do have a pronounced overbite.


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Posted: 5/3/2013 10:22:11 PM

I'm sorry but that sounds exhausting.


I didn't mean to imply we're always arguing. I don't believe she's worse than the average kid. I was just questioning the notion that we wouldn't bother with things that kids resist.


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Posted: 5/4/2013 12:38:20 AM
Never had braces as a child, but I have them now. I've had them on for 2 1/2 years and have about another 6 mos. to go. It hasn't been too bad actually. Yes there were low moments, but it's so worth it to not be so self conscious of your smile. I will definitely be wearing my retainer as these puppies were expensive. The only drawback I can think of is that when I go in for an adjustment I'm the only 48 year old in a sea of 'Tweens.


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Posted: 5/4/2013 12:53:50 AM
I'm in Canada so I think our plans are different. It is very unusual to see a kid under the age of 12 with braces. Our ortho says it is a total waste of time and these kids who get them on at a young age will get them twice. I was floored. My dd 1 had braces on for 14months. Great job. People don't realize the retainers are even More important than braces, our ortho does clear ones bc he knows the kids won't wear and don't like metal ones. My dd actually wore hers 2extra months fulltime not realizing she only had to wear them at nite. Dd2 gets her braces off in July not oct like we anticipated.

not wearing retainers Every night is Not an option.

They know that.

Ds will get his on n the fall too.



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Posted: 5/4/2013 1:03:31 AM
I have a question.

Someone mentioned their child had braces on for five years. Why?
Our ortho won't put them on until baby teeth are all gone. Did your child still have baby teeth..

Thank you.

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Posted: 5/4/2013 1:11:05 AM
My niece got them the summer before freshman year. She should get them off this summer.

I have to say that she can be a pill and she takes a lot of things in life for granted, but the one thing I hear her repeatedly express gratitude for is her orthodontia. Her teeth weren't terrible, but she knew that they weren't perfect and she initiated the conversations about braces long before her mouth was ready.

Now I'm really proud of her for taking care of her mouth all these months.

Hang in there, OP. Someday your son will appreciate it.



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I honestly don't understand the "two" sets of braces. I was told that both of my ds's needed palette expanders (by 2 different orthos at different times). I got a second opinions on both. Neither one needed a palette expander. I think it is always good to get second opinions.

I don't think my 26 yo dd wears her retainer anymore. My 23 yo son wears his almost every night. I just noticed the case on the counter this morning. My 19 yo ds is at college, and says that he wears his. I know he wears it at night when he is home. The boys both have permanant retainers on the bottom, as do I. I noticed mine starting to shift a few years back and ortho gave me one after 35 years!


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Posted: 5/4/2013 8:10:17 AM
It's amazing to me how young kids are these days when they get braces. My oldest D had them from age 13 to 15, and she was old compared to her friends. For many it was a multi stage process starting in elementary school. D had friends who had to get braces back on as teeth shifted while they were still in high school. I wonder if it's as much that their jaws are still growing as failure to wear retainers. We had no issues with D breaking brackets or wearing her retainer, though, and there was really no way around braces for her - she needed them.

Our dentist wanted to put braces on D3, who had crooked teeth and a bad bite, when she was 10. We opted to wait until she was older (she's now 13.5) and they somehow adjusted on their own. Same dentist now says her bite is perfect and she doesn't need orthodontia.

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Posted: 5/4/2013 8:21:01 AM

Both our DD and DS had braces as they went into Year 8. They were good with the whole thing and both wore their retainers as prescribed. I would do it again for them.

At the other end waiting until you are older - a friend of ours has had braces on four about 10 months now and will need them on for a lot longer as she is so much older - she is 64!

Decided that she has perfect teeth and has also wanted to correct them and decided at 62 or so to do so. She does not regret the time, money or effort and hopes to have her own teeth for the rest of her life. I don't know that I would bother at her age but hey what ever!

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Posted: 5/4/2013 8:25:26 AM
My parents elected not to go with braces when told I needed them. I wore them as an adult. Instead one year when I was younger, I wore them for 30 tortuous months at age 22. Nope, my kids got braces when they needed them, like it or not.


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Posted: 5/4/2013 10:09:12 AM

Our ortho says it is a total waste of time and these kids who get them on at a young age will get them twice.


I imagine this is often true, but I question anyone who makes a sweeping generalization like this. It was made clear when we got DD's at 8 that this was the first of two rounds. Her teeth didn't come out of the first round 'straight' (weren't expected to), but she came out of it able to eat food normally and that was reason enough to 'waste' my time and money on them.


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Posted: 5/4/2013 10:13:48 AM
Just like all areas of medicine, there's been advances in orthodontia. What was the standard of care when I was a teen in the 80s is not the evidence-based practice of today.

My twins got braces at 8 to correct some bite issues due to different causes. Now at 11, one daughter is getting her second set to correct a different issues.

The other daughter is doing fine with a permanent retainer, and we'll see if she needs a second set over time as she continues to grow, but it's not likely.


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Posted: 5/4/2013 1:40:21 PM

Just like all areas of medicine, there's been advances in orthodontia. What was the standard of care when I was a teen in the 80s is not the evidence-based practice of today.


Thank You Lindy!! It just amazes me that people believe what they believe about dentistry and orthodontics! I have been in the dental field for 23 yrs and A LOT has changed! I've also had braces 2x. Once starting in 6th grade and ending in 8th--didn't wear my retainer and REALLY should have had a palatal expander so we did the palatal expander and another round of brackets starting in 12th grade. I wore bonded retainers for eons until they broke. I am now kinda sorta doing Invisilign. I'm not terribly compliant but it isn't costing me anything so it is easy to NOT wear my trays!


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Posted: 5/5/2013 11:03:52 AM
I would have waited until after my wisdom teeth came out..


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