What requirements do substitute teachers in your area have?

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Posted 10/5/2013 by littlefish in NSBR Board
 

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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:07:09 PM
When I lived in the PNW, you had to hold a teaching certificate.

Where I am in FL, you only have to have a high school diploma/GED, an online class, a short orientation, and pass a background check.


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We pay different rates for different levels of education.


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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:11:16 PM
here in MI you have to have some college credits, I think equal to an associates degree and of course, pass a background check.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:20:22 PM
Indiana -- 60 credit hours and a background check. Up until about 5 years ago my district also required CPR training.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:27:41 PM
High school graduate, background check, short "training" program (few hours).

If you have a college degree, you make slightly more per day.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:29:53 PM
Alberta, Canada: all areas, you must have a valid teaching credential. (i.e. undergraduate plus provincial teaching certification)



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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:57:52 PM
Arizona requires a undergraduate degree and a fingerprint check.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 9:09:03 PM
I'm my district, you are supposed to be a certified teacher. Next, a college degree of some sort.


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Posted: 10/5/2013 9:10:05 PM
Nothing but a background check.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 9:32:47 PM
A college degree
Fingerprints
A CBEST waiver (if it is accepted) or passing scores
A substitute teaching permit for CA
Completion of the orientation


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Posted: 10/5/2013 9:37:44 PM
Associates degree. It varies by district.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 9:44:13 PM
Depends on the district. Some districts require a college degree. I know you could be a para sub without a degree. To do long-term sub jobs, I think most districts around here require a teaching certificate.


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Posted: 10/5/2013 10:23:11 PM
My state requires 60 college hours and a back ground check.




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Posted: 10/5/2013 10:44:41 PM
Interesting how varied it is! Thanks for your input. I was correcting spelling tests that my sub did with my class on Friday. I do differentiated lists, so rather than give 1 test on the same words, the kids have their own lists of words and buddy test each other. It's not too complicated once they're trained on it and it runs pretty smoothly.

All she had to do was pass out the pre-tests and a blank sheet of paper. The kids would do the rest.

She told me at dismissal (I was on campus, just doing something else) that there was just "too much paper" so she gave them all the same test on the highest level of words.

Now I have a chunk of kids that have to redo the test on Monday because the words she gave them weren't appropriate for their level.

I try really hard to keep things simple for all my subs.

All she had to do was pass out paper. I keep thinking of that whole "You had one job!" joke.


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Posted: 10/5/2013 11:10:48 PM

here in MI you have to have some college credits, I think equal to an associates degree and of course, pass a background check.


It depends on the district, actually. The district where I subbed in N. Oakland County required a current teaching certificate. Mine was expired when I applied and I had get it reinstated it to be eligible to work.

Here in Loudoun County, VA, no certificate is required.


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Posted: 10/5/2013 11:23:50 PM
Littlefish, I can empathize with your sub situation. We have a couple subs who seem to think they should tell the regular staff how to do things. And the music teacher, who was gone yesterday for a planned absence, had left PLENTY of stuff in her plans for a sub, PLUS having a whole "sub tub" of other things to do, but has been told that a first grade teacher picked up her class from music and found that the sub had "finished" everything and had the kids playing Duck, Duck, Goose in the music room. And this is a sub with a teaching certificate, I believe, and who has children in our school.

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Posted: 10/5/2013 11:27:41 PM
It used to be 60 hours of college credit, background check and short orientation.

Now it is 48 college hours, Fingerprinting for national background check, and of course the orientation.

When they had to let teachers go a few years ago, the only subs they would hire were ones with a teaching degree. . So I didn't get to work for awhile. I want my certificate, but alternative certification is not as good as getting it through college, and darn if they want me to take freshman level courses before the masters program/certification option they have. Grrrrr. This was right after I graduated with honors from a UT school.


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Posted: 10/6/2013 10:19:54 AM
Indiana requires them to be a high school grad and 18 years old. Our district requires a few college classes. I wish there was a higher requirement but we can't get enough subs as it is! Unfortunately, most of the subs I get don't do what I ask/leave, even when I meet them ahead of time, label everything and write the requirements on the board. I can't leave anything new or that requires explanation or teaching. Once I left a biography video and the sub messed that up. I dread days I need a sub!

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Posted: 10/6/2013 11:01:29 AM
In our district the pay is higher for a person with a degree. The minimum requirement is a diploma. You also have to take a week long Sub Training course that is taught by a retired teacher. It's a week long and about 30 hours in a classroom of sub candidates.


She told me at dismissal (I was on campus, just doing something else) that there was just "too much paper" so she gave them all the same test on the highest level of words.

Now I have a chunk of kids that have to redo the test on Monday because the words she gave them weren't appropriate for their level.


That's ridiculous! In our Elem school our 2nd grade has at least 3 different spelling test levels. It's not that difficult to figure out. Worse case scenario, I ask a student that I know knows what is going on and we figure it out together. "Are these the words you studied this week?"



Littlefish, I can empathize with your sub situation. We have a couple subs who seem to think they should tell the regular staff how to do things. And the music teacher, who was gone yesterday for a planned absence, had left PLENTY of stuff in her plans for a sub, PLUS having a whole "sub tub" of other things to do, but has been told that a first grade teacher picked up her class from music and found that the sub had "finished" everything and had the kids playing Duck, Duck, Goose in the music room. And this is a sub with a teaching certificate, I believe, and who has children in our school.
In the subs defense, I often have to have my own bag of tricks for certain teachers. Music being one of them. Our music teacher OFTEN underestimates how long a lesson will take to cover. She'll leave one worksheet and expect that to last 50 mins for a group of 1st graders. She once left me a CD and a box of scarves. I told her I refuse to sub for her again because she never leaves me enough to do. I don't mind improvising in a typical classroom (Math Bingo etc) but I can't improvise in a music classroom because I know nothing about music.



Unfortunately, most of the subs I get don't do what I ask/leave, even when I meet them ahead of time, label everything and write the requirements on the board. I can't leave anything new or that requires explanation or teaching. Once I left a biography video and the sub messed that up. I dread days I need a sub!


The type of situations above are the very reason another sub (friend of mine) and I are in such high demand at our Elem School. I have a lot of experience at the Elem level and can actually teach... and follow directions. It's not uncommon for a teacher to just leave her original plans/CC Binder knowing that I can teach the material. Most teachers have my cell phone and text/call me as soon as they know they need me. If I have a few days notice I stop by to get the plans in advance to review so I can teach the lesson appropriately. Math has changed a lot in the last few years and it's so important with Common Core that a teacher doesn't get behind.

Last week a teacher needed me to sub for her while she tended to a family emergency but I was already subbing in another classroom. She tracked me down in the school and asked me to check in on her class to be sure something got passed out to the students properly. Not only did the sub arrive 45 mins late to the job but she was not much more than a warm body. UGH!


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Posted: 10/6/2013 11:14:30 AM
You have to have a four year college degree. If you hold a teaching license, you get paid more.



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Posted: 10/6/2013 11:16:07 AM
When I subbed my AA was enough, in one state, but the other requires a credential.


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Posted: 10/6/2013 1:11:44 PM
60 college credits and and background check with fingerprints.

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Posted: 10/6/2013 1:14:37 PM
You have to pass the background test and show up on time. There are no real requirements for 'Subs' in our district nor are the any requirement in the state law.

However, the district will not hire a long term sub without a teaching certificate. It is not a requirement written anywhere, because long term subs are not hired, or paid, any differently than daily subs but the administration is not going to deal with parents freaking out about the qualifications of a long term sub. And of you have someone there for a maternity leave or any other reason for an extended period of time there will be a parent who will question it. So the unwritten 'rule' in our district is while there are no requirements other than the background test, they just wont keep you long term in the same classroom if you dont have your certificate. Most of the long term subs are retired teachers. Most of the daily subs are anyone they can find.

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B. Ed. with provincial registration in BC. TOC (teachers on call) are usually straight out of university and how they get their foot in the door with districts here for permanent positions.





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Posted: 10/6/2013 4:13:43 PM
Our current district requires a teaching license and a background check.

In some districts where we have lived before, the requirements have been as low as a high school diploma. In those districts, the daily pay rate was dependent on your level of education.

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Posted: 10/6/2013 4:23:04 PM
Here in Alberta subs are required to have the exact same qualifications as actual teachers ... Bachelor of Education and a valid Teaching Certificate ...

It only makes sense since they are doing the same job

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Posted: 10/6/2013 5:18:52 PM
Each district is able to set their own requirements in our state depending on need. The district I sub for just requires a high school diploma and a background check. If they required a teaching certificate they wouldn't have enough subs to cover the whole district. Small rural districts have a much harder time filling the needed slots than larger districts do.

BTW, not having a certificate doesn't necessarily mean the person is a bad sub. Some of us can teach whatever you leave for us, especially at the elementary school level. I can also teach most of what is left for me at the high school level, although many teachers have had to just get used to not trusting the subs to teach certificate or not.

Sorry you had a lazy sub. Doing a spelling test is one of the easiest things a teacher can leave for me to do. I am often given new material to go over when I sub in the elementary classrooms. It's one reason I prefer the elementary schools to the middle and high school. It's much more fun to teach than to babysit.


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Posted: 10/6/2013 7:33:51 PM
In our district (as of 4 years ago)you need a teaching certificate and a background check. I am lucky I was subbing before so I was grandfathered in. My goal has always been to be the best sub the teacher has ever had. I never have to take calls from subfinder (the calling system) I always have my jobs set up in advance.

It's to bad that lazy subs are the norm for some. I've often thought about going for my teachers cert because I enjoy it so much. I've decided to continue subbing because I also enjoy the flexibility that subbing gives me.

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Posted: 10/6/2013 9:20:00 PM
Bachelor degree, background check, and apply for a sub license


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Posted: 10/6/2013 10:17:39 PM
Same here, Tina! I have teachers all the time tell me I need to finish my certification. But, I love to teach and teaching has become more about paperwork, assessments and more testing.


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