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Posted: 8/8/2011 12:11:40 AM
i just bought a cricut literally today i came to buy the sure cuts alot online just to find out only version 2 is compatible and no longer available. the other machines are too expensive i only bought the cricut bc it was on clearance. if someone could copy theirs i would really appreciate it and buy it from you of course. thank you

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Posted: 8/8/2011 12:14:59 AM
I read a couple of days ago on Craft Edge's website (makers of SCAL) that they will be enforcing the TOS that users of SCAL agree to when purchasing. The TOS do not allow for resale of a SCAL regardless of whether or not the original purchaser deactivates it on their own computer. The license is NOT transferable to another person. So from what I understand should you buy or get a copy of it from someone you will not be able to activate the software. I think the people buying SCAL 2 on Ebay for hundreds of dollars are going to be pretty irked.

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Posted: 8/8/2011 1:06:54 AM
Really? Some of those on eBay are new though What would it mean for those? And also there are alot of users who've cracked version 1 I'm sure there are cracks out there for version 2 or some type of keygen. Ive also heared of hacking ur cricut but These machines are super expensive and so are the cartridges this is the only company who has sued the software companies. Idk I guess I can try to return my cricut or sell it I was so excited too

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Posted: 8/8/2011 5:21:07 AM

And also there are alot of users who've cracked version 1 I'm sure there are cracks out there for version 2 or some type of keygen. Ive also heared of hacking ur cricut but These machines are super expensive and so are the cartridges this is the only company who has sued the software companies. Idk I guess I can try to return my cricut or sell it I was so excited too


It sounds like an awful lot of trouble to go through to run a machine you just bought, don't ya think? It doesn't sound like you have anything invested yet, so why bother with trying to buy SCAL and trying to get it to work on your Cricut at this point? If you're aware of people "cracking" SCAL, you had to be aware of what was going on with SCAL/PC. So why buy one today?

If you're for real, take your Cricut back and get another machine, or you can hop on over to eBay, spend $400+ on a copy that won't be supported by Craft Edge.

I'm not buying all these new people signing up here and begging for SCAL. Something smells fishy to me.


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Posted: 8/8/2011 9:14:53 AM
Either way buy a new machine or buy cartridges or buy the super expensive scal v2 I don't have money to be spending on any of it. So I prob resort to returning it and not having a machine at all

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Posted: 8/8/2011 10:20:43 AM
Yep, fishy to me too.

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Posted: 8/8/2011 10:21:15 AM

So I prob resort to returning it and not having a machine at all


For what you'd spend on a Cricut and SCAL (not that you could even find it), you could have a different machine. Pick up a used Silhouette and only buy the images you want for $1. Seems pretty simple and more affordable than going the other route.

And I wanted to add--if you're aware of people cracking SCAL and hacking Cricuts, how did you NOT know SCAL2 couldn't be purchased?


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Posted: 8/8/2011 11:34:48 AM
Because hacking i just assume they were hacking because cricut is only used with carriages and they're expensive And Ive seen on YouTube the SCAL program so I went to get a machine bs wanted to dOwnload but they only had v3 I just thought maybe somewhere else it's available for the older version as with any software. I didn't pay much attention to the lawsuit links I saw Until I read on the scal site cricut wasn't supported anymore etc. I guess I will try to find a silhoutte sd cutter seems to be the least expensive.

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Posted: 8/8/2011 3:29:08 PM

I'm not buying all these new people signing up here and begging for SCAL. Something smells fishy to me.



I thought that for another "new" poster. She claims it wasn't the case, but when items start selling for $435 on eBay...lots of interesting things start happening all around!



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Posted: 8/8/2011 4:02:20 PM
Everybody keeps saying smells fishy smells fishy. The people trying to buy or the sellers selling them? Just say what u mean because I don't know what your trying to say

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Posted: 8/8/2011 4:31:07 PM
Fishy is people who create a brand new 2Peas account and their first post is wanting to buy SCAL2 for inexpensive. Then, they potentially turn around and sell it for a lot on eBay. That is fishy.

For those of us who have been on 2Peas a long time, we have seen this kind of thing time and again when products suddenly become limited in availability or no longer available. People who really aren't part of the community on an even semi-regular basis, suddenly post wanting a very desirable item. Now, that is not to say everyone has an ulterior motive for getting a product here inexpensively and re-selling at a large mark-up. However, there have been plenty of times when it is true, so it makes those of us on here a long time kind of skeptical. It is like taking advantage of members of the community when those members may not realize they have something so valuable on their hands.

However, at this point, SCAL (aka Craft Edge) does not allow transfer of the license or software if the code has EVER been used. So, you can't activate the software if it has been on anyone else's computer, even if they deactivate. So, all those eBay sales where the person says that the software has never been installed but was used only as a back-up in case they needed to reinstall, the purchasers won't be able to install even if they call Craft Edge. Craft Edge's website states that if the original purchaser EVER used that activation code, whether through download or software installation, it is void for transfer.

Therefore, some of those people who bought on eBay, won't be able to activate their SCAL 2 software.

Additionally, anyone who really understands these cutting machines knows that you can buy a Silhouette for FAR less than SCAL 2 is selling for on eBay and automatically cut the exact same True Type fonts and images. You could still keep your Cricut and use your cartridges, but for less than $200, get a Silhouette and cut TTF's, SVG's, images, etc immediately.

Also, it was several months ago that SCAL 2 owners (Craft Edge) announced that their new version SCAL 3 would not work with Cricut after their settlement with ProvoCraft (Cricut). Why was there no surge in people asking for SCAL 2 then? It was literally all over pertinent internet/craft/FB sites.

2 weeks ago someone put an SCAL 2 up for auction and it went for big bucks. Immediately, people came on craft websites "needing" SCAL 2.

Does that explain why the sudden surge in people wanting SCAL 2 is fishy?



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Posted: 8/8/2011 5:15:12 PM
Well said Siamese Peas!

And this is what's going on on eBay: there's a current listing with a BIN for $495 and this is in their listing:


I have checked this software and it is in like-new condition- the registration code has been activated to insure functionality, then immediatedly deactivated on my computer and is ready to be registered and activated by you!


I'm thinking there's gonna be some ticked off people. I'm not saying everyone is out to scr@w someone, and it's possible a seller and/or buyer aren't aware of Craft Edge's policy (I honestly didn't know about not selling my code if I deactivated it until I re-read the TOU on their website), but for those that aren't doing their homework, there's gonna be some trouble with these sales.


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Posted: 8/8/2011 6:21:58 PM
That's what i thought u were getting at. But yea they're screwing people out of alot of money which is why if I couldn't get a new software I am goin to take this back and just buy a silhouette I appreciate whoever suggested it to me as I dint know anythin about these things I am a first timer with scrapbooking. But that is the way it works u buy things for cheap and sell it fOr more to make profit. I don't know who would really pay that much though if u could buy something better Only reason I wante because I bought my cricut for SO unbelievably cheap the software was the eat way to use it with because I don't have money to spend on such things

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Posted: 8/8/2011 7:49:46 PM

And this is what's going on on eBay: there's a current listing with a BIN for $495 and this is in their listing:



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I have checked this software and it is in like-new condition- the registration code has been activated to insure functionality, then immediatedly deactivated on my computer and is ready to be registered and activated by you!
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I'm thinking there's gonna be some ticked off people. I'm not saying everyone is out to scr@w someone, and it's possible a seller and/or buyer aren't aware of Craft Edge's policy (I honestly didn't know about not selling my code if I deactivated it until I re-read the TOU on their website), but for those that aren't doing their homework, there's gonna be some trouble with these sales.



I just don't get these people either. No, they obviously have not done their homework. That same auction (well the one I'm seeing has a BIN of $485 with "free" shipping - what a joke) also states that you get a "free upgrade to V3." - Which does NOT work with Cricut! People are going to be ripped off who are buying SCAL off e-bay all the way around. I don't understand why any one with any sense would pay that kind of money for SCAL. If they have that kind of money to burn, then wouldn't it make more sense to buy the Silhouette where they have their own software for around $200 or one of the other electronic die cutters who allow SCAL, MTC, etc.?

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Posted: 8/8/2011 9:52:36 PM
I have a question about the silhouette If I buy it used (doesn't it come with a software and serial key) so would it work on my computer since it was already activated?

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Posted: 8/8/2011 11:00:57 PM
You don't have to register your Silhouette for it to work. I've had mine for about a month now, and I still haven't gotten around to registering it. The software and everything still works. In fact, I downloaded the software from the website before I even had my machine. You can download the software and play around with it to see if you like it.

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Posted: 8/8/2011 11:14:58 PM
So if it was registered and I buy it like that it won't matter?

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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:36:43 AM
I can help you with the SCAL V2, anyone interested send my an inbox to get more details!!! hope you haven't sold your cricuts. This SCAL Version is working fine in mine!!!
Thanks and hope to help someone.

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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:43:21 PM

I can help you with the SCAL V2, anyone interested send my an inbox to get more details!!! hope you haven't sold your cricuts. This SCAL Version is working fine in mine!!!
Thanks and hope to help someone.


Now this smells fishy.....first post??? If it smells like fish.......you know the rest.

And to the original poster.....I think it says a lot about your character when you complain about the cost of the cartridges so you want to hack a program. Maybe if something is too expensive, you just shouldn't buy it, rather than think of a way to work the system. I don't know you, but that's not how I roll. So, if I missed something here and am talking out of turn, please accept my apology, if not.....let it stand.

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Posted: 9/15/2011 6:29:42 PM
This is definately fishy. Check out the sellers feedback !! It's 100% but when you check what's been sold it's total trash !
A bit like the recent cricut cartridges that were sold from Hong Kong and China on E-bay with free postage !! All people received were a pack of elastic bands or cheap cell phone charms in a small padded envelope.

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Posted: 9/16/2011 10:29:21 AM

i just bought a cricut literally today i came to buy the sure cuts alot online just to find out only version 2 is compatible and no longer available. the other machines are too expensive i only bought the cricut bc it was on clearance. if someone could copy theirs i would really appreciate it and buy it from you of course.


Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but if you are really asking someone to "copy" theirs for you, then you are asking them to violate copyright law.


And to the original poster.....I think it says a lot about your character when you complain about the cost of the cartridges so you want to hack a program.


Again, maybe you didn't mean for it to sound the way it did. Anyway, from what I've read, hacking the Cricut is usually done by those who want the George cartridge without buying it. I don't think hacking the Cricut works for any other cartridge, and it's not going to replace SCAL or MTC. Besides, I've seen at least one post where someone hacked their Cricut and regretted it because they ruined their machine. It's a big risk.

You say you can't afford any other electronic cutter, but you didn't say which Cricut you bought. If you bought the Cricut Expression on sale, you can take it back and buy the Silhouette when it goes on sale (or buy a used cutter) for a comparable price. You can use your computer fonts with the Silhouette and even do some design work without having to buy SCAL (but SCAL does work with Silhouette, which is nice for the former Cricut owners who are used to that program). If you bought the "personal" Cricut, a less expensive machine, it's true that you can't get another cutter for that price. However, the personal Cricut (called the baby bug) would have come with the George font and Basic Shapes cartridges. Even just with those two carts, the baby bug can do some good things for paper crafting. And the Cricut is simple to operate, at least when compared to other electronic cutters. The more expensive cutters (that you say you can't afford) have a bigger learning curve.

If the Cricut is all you can afford, but you can't afford to buy more cartridges, either stick to using what cartridges came with the machine, or return the Cricut.

Getting a brand new unused SCAL 2 program for a decent price for your Cricut at this point really isn't an option.


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Posted: 9/16/2011 11:46:47 PM
To the princess, your right you dont know me but I think it says alot about your character when you come onto messageboards and try to voice your opinion about someOne and be COMPLETELY WRONG you couldn't have missed the mark by any further even if it was done intentionally and second you don't try and burst someone's bubble and then appologize before they even get a chance to respond to you THAT'S not the way anything rolls


And to the last comment thank you but since this post I've actually returned my cricut Ans purchased a silhouette for just a little extra more. just to clarify I was asking for a tangible Disc that wasn't being used by anyone anymore (SCAL) I wasn't going to pay riduiculous prices for it onto of what the cricut actully cost makes no sense if from the beginning cartridges I said were expensive why would I pay 100s of dollars for SCAL i was just seeing if I didn't have to return the cricut if I didn't have to. Idk what goes into hacking I was just saying I know it can damage anything u try to hack that's y I've never done it I was just saying.

I'm not ms.moneybags that can afford all this expensive equipment I'm just a SUPER NEW SCRAPbooker and mom Trying to put together a scrapbook for my lil one
Anything anyone feels to express than express it but it's just funny.

If your so suspect of other people's actions, thinking/assuming that they're doing it for financial gain or their own convinience etc Doesn't that put you in the same frame of mind as those? Maybe your capable or have done things just as despicable But in different forms.

I'm not naive or closed minded But my intentions weren't geared to a negative place Buying it and selling it for 4x the price never even crossed my mind Until it was mentioned I'm not the type to go out of my way for something like that So funny though

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Posted: 9/17/2011 4:39:23 PM

just to clarify I was asking for a tangible Disc that wasn't being used by anyone anymore (SCAL)


That's not what you said in your first post.
You asked for someone to " copy" one for you which is illegal.

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Posted: 9/19/2011 10:30:21 PM
That's not what I meant because if they would've just copied there's and the verification code It wouldn't worked for me because they're already using theirs. Someone contacted me with a link to buy but I wanted the original unused disc But whatever this is been over and done with I like my new machine. People read too much into one thing and miss the whole point of what's being said.

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Posted: 9/19/2011 11:25:28 PM

To the princess, your right you dont know me but I think it says alot about your character when you come onto messageboards and try to voice your opinion about someOne and be COMPLETELY WRONG you couldn't have missed the mark by any further even if it was done intentionally and second you don't try and burst someone's bubble and then appologize before they even get a chance to respond to you THAT'S not the way anything rolls


FYI-I can have any opinion I want, it's not up to you to decide if it's right or wrong, that's why it's called an opinion. I read your post, stated what I felt, and freely admitted I might be wrong. How is that a bad thing? I left the door WIDE OPEN for you to respond and correct me if I was wrong! I do think asking for someone to copy a computer program, regardless if you paid them or not, is WRONG. Anyone knows that's not how it works. You buy your own original copy. And...I'm not sure how I was trying to "burst your bubble"? Makes no sense. I did the right thing ahead of time by apologizing if I was wrong....meaning if I misinterpreted your post.
Enjoy your Silhouette. It's the best thing out there anyway! (in my opinion of course)

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Posted: 9/19/2011 11:45:55 PM
Umm FYI If your opinion is on me than yeah it's up to me to say if it's wrong Or not. And there's a difference between the way you come off and the other post you almost said the same things but she/he didn't come off the way you did. You assumed and obviously you knew there was a possibility your opinion was wrOng or you wouldn't have appologized. But I'm not going to keep responding there's really no point Or even necessary for me tO even explain anything. This can keep going response after response but I'll stop here. I should've closed this thread a while ago but I don't know how And eachtime someone posts it goes to my email which makes it that much more annoying.


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