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scrappyesq
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I've been watching the EP CHA sneak peeks and I started thinking about the photo freedom lines. Which got me over to BPC watching Stacy Julian talking about Photo Freedom. Now I'm thinking about signing up, because I can definitely use some help in the photo depatment.
Is anyone else thinking aboout signing up when registration opens? | |
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| Posted: 12/9/2012 10:13:55 PM
I did it in 2011 and it is a great class! Best BPC class I have ever taken. | |
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| Posted: 12/9/2012 10:21:15 PM
What's BPC? I'm still trying to figure out all the abbreviations .. And this one isnt on the twopeas dictornery list lol.. Thanks!  |
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Jjmikrut143
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| Posted: 12/9/2012 10:25:31 PM
Nvm.. I figured it out big picture classes lol |
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Jennifer, BPC is Big Picture Classes. It's Stacy Julian's website.
I have taken LOM (Library of Memories) several times and FPF (Finding Photo Freedom) and get something more out of each one. It's a system that is slowly falling into place for me and I love it more and more as I get more comfortable with it and get it set up. It's a great class!! |
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BPC = Big Picture Classes 
I read the Photo Freedom book way back when so I understand the concept, but it's nothing I could ever get into. I'm too "organized" and don't buy into her philosophy. I tried, I really tried, LOL!
But I know many love it so I say go for it! I do love Stacy and her spirit  She is good people. |
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I took Photo Freedom last time it was offered. Stacy has some great ideas but I couldn't commit to her system. I worked with every thing I had set up in the class for a year and I tweaked some things to better fit for me, but it just wasn't working. I've just taken all of my albums apart within the last month and an redoing my system. I've started the class Cover to Cover by Shimelle and her system seem to be a better fit for me.
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 1:51:01 AM
Where do I find cover to cover by Shimelle?
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AngelJade
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The Photo Freedom book and the LOM class changed not only the way that I scrapbook but my entire approach to organizing my photos, albums and supplies. It isn't for everyone, but I've been using the system (with small changes to make it work better for me) for nearly four years now and have never looked back. It just really clicked for me. |
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Where do I find cover to cover by Shimelle?
Here ya go:
Cover to Cover |
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scrappyesq
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 8:55:55 AM
I didn't realize that it was a whole 'system'  . Not sure what I thought it was, but I did want to get more ideas about using Photo Freedom items from EP.
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sorfammom
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 9:22:17 AM
identicaltriplets, thanks for the link.
You'll see that the class has already run live, but is available as a self paced class that can be started at any time. All of the materials are made available to you at the start of the class. The message boards are still live, but not very active.
At $30 I think it's an excellent value. I don't know what the cost will be for Stacy's LOM class but in 2010 was $95. To me that's an awful lot of money for a class. I did splurge and took it and for me I don't think it was worth it. However many, many people have taken the class and loved it and the system and they probably feel that it was well worth it. Stacy's book Photofreedom (which details her Library of Memories/LOM system) is now available as an e-book for $15. This may be an option for some to consider. | |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 9:36:35 AM
I don't think the EP Photo Freedom lines really have anything to do with the class. It's just a line similar to Simple Stories to scrapbook our memories using pocket pages. The class covers all aspects of scrapbooking: organizing physical and digital photos, sorting and storage, album organization. Stacy does not organize her albums chronologically, which was a huge problem for me. Her main library albums are non-chrono organized into All About Us, People We Love, Places We Go, and Things We Do.
I will say that I did enjoy the class and still happily using some of the organizational systems. | |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 10:28:35 AM
I took the class a few summers ago and I loved it! I was finally able to rid myself of the Creative Memories "guilt" of not scrapbooking chronologically. IT WAS AWESOME! I get so much more done now, I don't feel guilty, and my photos are organized in a way that makes sense to me. I really enjoyed the class and learned sooooo much!!! |
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Can you give me the basic 411 on the class? |
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scrappyesq
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 12:07:22 PM
Actually it does have to do with EP, they posted this on their blog. That's what got me interested in photo freedom to start with. | |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 12:50:49 PM
This is from the BPC site, that the EP Photo Freedom page links to:
Finding Photo Freedom
An Introduction to Library of Memories
Are you having fun yet?
You have nice digital camera and you're taking plenty of wonderful pictures to spark happy memories and help you tell personal stories.
You own lots of beautiful papers and decorative embellishments and you've put time and energy into organizing these supplies so that they can inspire your inherent creativity.
You have a strong desire to make good on these investments and yet something is missing. You just can't seem to wrap your brain around the whole process of taking pictures, organizing stuff, finding time, making pages and projects, and feeling productive and satisfied when it comes to scrapbooking. You want to know that all this effort is making a difference, that you're doing it "right" and that what you create will have meaning in the future.
YOU NEED PHOTO FREEDOM.
You're invited to join BPC founder Stacy Julian in the newest iteration of her popular Library of Memories course, so that she can set you free to find what you want to find, when you want to find it, and to create what you feel inspired to create, when you feel inspired to create it. Specifically, Stacy will help you establish a digital workflow to prioritize and organize the thousands of digital images on your computer. She'll give you direction for the boxes of prints at the top of your closet and she'll introduce you to a wonderfully flexible and inviting system of storing and sharing memories that you can adapt to your personal goals and needs. All along the way, Stacy and her experienced team of coaches will encourage you to let go of unrealistic expectations and unnecessary rules, so that you can embrace the future of memory preservation with confidence.
It looks to me like it's a class on Stacy's LOM system that she's always taught. There is just a tie-in now with the new Photo Freedom products from Echo Park.
So Stacy teaches you how to file and organize photos. Then EP Photo Freedom products help you scrap them. That's how I'm seeing it. |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 12:56:53 PM
I've been planning on taking this class for 2 years but now I'm wondering if I should take Shimelle's Cover to Cover instead. (cuz it's cheaper and Shimelle is awesome) Has anyone taken both? How do they compare?
P.S. Stacey is also awesome. |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 2:01:24 PM
I took a year or so ago. Lots of people love it. I did not. It is not the way I think.
Her book also outlines her method. | |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 2:57:54 PM
So Stacy teaches you how to file and organize photos. Then EP Photo Freedom products help you scrap them. That's how I'm seeing it.
Ahhhhh! Got it. I am 100% caught up on photos (I have this Thanksgiving already scrapped!) and it sounds like a class for folks who have not gotten to that point.
I was hoping it was more of a photography approach class vs. organization class. |
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This is a very lengthy post. I have taken both classes. In a nutshell, I preferred Shimelle's Cover to Cover class. The way she organizes her photos and her albums is very simple and made more sense to me. Her handouts and her videos were very helpful and easy to follow. Photo Freedom is very complicated. It is very detailed and has many, many components. Had I started with Shimelle's class I would not have taken Photo Freedom. Read on for more details.
I tried to do Photo Freedom for 3 years but found it too complicated. Stacy instructs you to put your current photos (up to 100 I believe she has you start with) in binders that you can look at. They stay in these binders until you scrap them. As you empty your binders, you move your photos to make room for more photos. If you don't scrap your photos, you put them in category drawers (people, places, things). When you scrap a LO, you put it in the People We love, Places We Go, Things we Do, or All About Us albums. This did not work for my brain at all. The albums didn't tell a story that made sense to me. On the digital side, you star-rate your photos, assign keywords, and set up highlight folders. You save them to an external hard drive, a flash drive and an off-site place (shutterfly, snapfish, etc). If you have children you set up a school of life folder. And there's a lot more. This was way, way too hard. I couldn't stand the thought of putting my photos in binders. It took up too much time. And the binders take up a lot of space in your home.
What was cool about this class? Stacy really helps you think outside the chronological box. Her ideas for scrapbooking about stories rather than events was very inspiring. And I really love my category drawers and will continue to use them. The class also helped me organize the 20 years of photos I had in all kinds of places. That task is 90% completed.
Shimelle's Cover to Cover class was perfect for me. Everything Shimelle taught seemed to make more sense. She too has you print out photos. You put the photos in a box or drawer. When you print new photos, they go to the front of the box. So much easier! She has her albums in chronological order, but will scrap out of order. She gives details on how to do this. So simple. No questions of "Do I put this LO in the people we love album or the places we go album?". They just go in chronological order. Makes so much more sense to me. I loved all the videos included in this class. If you want more of my opinion, drop me a pea-mail.
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Thanks Beamed!  |
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| Posted: 12/10/2012 9:19:15 PM
Beamed said it perfectly. | |
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I've taken both and highly recommend to go through both processes. Honestly, I think both systems are perfect for mixing and matching together. The lessons on workflow in LOM were invaluable to me, but the way Shimelle described "upgrade albums" clicked with me in a way that the LOM album set up hadn't.
If you can, take both and put in the effort to think through and try out all of the different options. Even if you end up going a different route it won't be a waste of money because you will know without a doubt what does and doesn't work for you.
Since the LOM class is only offered once every 2 years I would really suggest taking that first. And just FYI, while the book is great, the class has evolved so far beyond the book that you can't really use the book as a substitute for the class. My suggestion is to take the LOM class, set up the system, and live with it for a few months. Then take Cover to Cover and tweak your system by implementing the ideas that resonate with you. | |
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| Posted: 12/12/2012 3:15:55 PM
I've also taken both and as for the albums, Shimelle's system made way more sense to me and the way that I think about things and/or would want to show someone a layout. Regardless, there is always something that I learn from any of Shimelle's classes that goes beyond what the class is supposed to teach and this class was no different.
However, Stacy's class is a great approach to organizing the photos. I am willing to take or leave parts of her system that don't work for me. That's okay with me to not buy into the whole system (like the 2" square punch drawers--I don't know if I'll ever do that.) The organizational systems appeal to me, but sometimes it's too much. I do like having the photos in the binders to flip through them to find a story that appeals to me to scrap. It's easier then flipping through the envelopes or drawers of photos. The category drawers also appeal to me in a very big way! I never realized that I took photos of us doing a certain thing until I had several years' worth of photos in binders and then I was able to pull them aside and let them wait until I have a chance to make a LO about it. Something I would have missed without Stacy's system.
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