AAARGHHH! I'm so tired of Scrapbooks falling apart!
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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:40:03 PM
I'm so tired of messing with those stupid little extender posts. To be fair, I DO make lumpy scrapbook pages so I'm trying to fit several page protectors in to an album but there just HAS to be a better way than stacking those extender posts together.

What am I doing wrong? Is there a better solution to adding more page protectors?

I have so much fun scrapbooking pages (I LOVE themed albums!) but not so much fun when it comes time to put the album together. Help!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:42:31 PM
Stop living in the dark ages of post bound!!!!

Get some D-Ring albums and you will never have this problem again




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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:45:30 PM
Agreed! D ring albums are the way to go.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:46:37 PM
Haha, I really must be in the dark ages because I've never heard of D-Rings.... gotta go Google.

One question though (and if I would just Google first, I'd probably figure this out myself)... are the D-Rings like 3-ring binders? I love the IDEA of just slamming layouts in a 3 ring binder but I hate the "ditch" in between layouts. I'm kind of obsessive-compulsive about always making 2 page layouts....


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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:48:56 PM
I have very similar problems and have not found a perfect solution.
1 - I began using Creative Memories Picfolio Max albums which based on their construction limited me to the number of pages in the book so I just put less in each album and had more albums (but they discontinued these so I am out of luck in the future - I did by a huge amount before they were gone for good so I could have as many matching ones as possible)

2. - For post bound albums I try (I don't always succeed) to work on the same theory as above, I only put in pages that fit on the post size that came with the album. I had originally purchased 2 inch posts thinking I could use those, but the albums were just too big.

I don't know what the perfect solution is for this problem, but someone will come up with some product someday I am sure - LOL

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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:49:06 PM
Where have you been?

I only do single pagers so the gap doesn't mean anything to me.

Glitter Girl sews her page protectors together I the gap bothers you that much on a particular LO.


I will never, ever go back to post bound. Never. I'd rather have loose LOs than go back to post bound.



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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:49:41 PM
There's definitely a gap between the LO's but I hardly notice it. When I started scrapping in 2002, I used post bound albums for all of 2 years. I quickly grew to hate them. I've been using D-ring for about 8 years now and haven't looked back.

makes life so much simpler




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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:54:45 PM
I'm back! 'Just watched a couple of videos about D-Rings.... Myshelley is right, Where have I been?? Whoohoo!

Hmmmm, sewing the layouts together seems a little over the top, even for a obsessive-compulsive like me!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:58:48 PM
I will only use Creative Memories strap and hinge albums. It sounds scary but it isn't!

When you lay them open, the pages lie flat, there is the slightest bit of a gap and you don't really notice it and I may not scrap completely lumpy and bumpy on every page but I do jam those albums full. They have the slide loading pages now and the part where you slide it in is on the inside of the page so it doesn't slide back out, plus since they aren't top loading, no dust or dirt will get down in there if your lumpy and bumpy is holding the top of the protector open.

Plus, you can adjust the tension with the strap so if you fill it like I do, when it is standing upright, your pages will not sag.

I have tried just about everything else on the market and gave up, I can't find a better album than these!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:03:40 PM
I love 3 ring albums. I have about 4 of the others and I can't stand them.


I try to be sure to avoid splitting any element across the middle of the 2 pages, but if I do go ahead and do that, you can just hold the 2 pages up a bit as you're flipping through the album to see it as it should look.


On all of my other 2 page LOs, I just ignore the "ditch".



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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:04:15 PM
The gap between the pages of a double layout isn't really too bothersome when you see it in person. I find that if I have an element split between the two pages (block of paper, photo, even a title sometimes), I can just push the two pages up against one another so the layout looks seamless. It's really not a big deal!

I have also used glue dots to stick the page protectors together in the centre between the two side of a double page layout, for when I really wanted the layout to be all one in appearance.







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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:17:22 PM
I bought long posts (made by Kolo). I love my CTMH albums, they are built like a brick house. I just put my album together once and now I have 50 protectors (100 sides) in there and I don't have to mess with it again. Also the long posts aren't wobbly so I prefer them to using a shorter post with extenders.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:18:00 PM
Okay, I'm going to try the D-Ring binders.....

but, but, but....

What am I going to do with all the cute post-bound albums I have bought because they are.... well, cute??

Is there a D-Ring conversion kit?

The post-bound album I'm struggling with right now is an adorable one that I bought on the cruise ship. I really, REALLY want to use it but, hmmmm....

I think I need an intervention....


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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:20:12 PM
Yep d-ring baby


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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:21:21 PM
Three Ring Binder!! That is the best way to deal with lumpy scrapbooks!



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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:26:23 PM
I changed my post bound all to a "strap" with a pioneer kit. They have them by the albums at ms and Js, I assume HL and As would have them too. I can't remember the actual name of it, something like snapload I think. It is just two plastic straps that you tread through the holes and it attaches to the album.
But D rings are better, WRMK, specifically.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:36:49 PM
Go to the hardware store and buy 4" or 3" Chicago screw posts. It will cost about $4 for two. Strong and sturdy. Replace the posts that are in the books you have.

Don't bother with those flimsy extenders. Much better than buying all new D ring albums because D ring albums are easy but always end up with that little gap in the bottom ring so the page protectors fall off.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:38:18 PM
"I changed my post bound all to a "strap" with a pioneer kit. They have them by the albums at ms and Js, I assume HL and As would have them too. I can't remember the actual name of it, something like snapload I think. It is just two plastic straps that you tread through the holes and it attaches to the album. "

Deekaye: I think I have some snapload straps still if you pm me your address, I will send them to you. I switched to D-ring also but this way you can use your cruise album. I'll run up right now & see if I can find them

ETA: I have 2 pkgs. that are yours if you pm me






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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:56:00 PM
CTMH albums are sturdier. I can add pages to them till they are almost too heavy to lift.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:14:39 PM
Another Creative Memories strap hinge album lover here! Been using them for 18 years now. The three non CM albums I did in the beginning lasted about four years before falling apart and I redid them in CM. I did have 2 dring american craft ones gifted to me and I've used them, but won't buy anymore because I love the CM so much. They are expensive, but after heavy handling and still being in perfect condition after 18 years, I think they are sooo worth the cost.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:20:50 PM
caspad has it right, go to the hardware store and get those posts. I do not like the d ring, looks like school books, bottom ring always slips out and you have the huge gap and the pages don't match on the inside.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:24:36 PM
I, too, LOVE my CM strap hinge albums. I have been using them since the beginning of scrapping my pictures since 1997, which is 16 years. NEVER had one fall apart yet. I also have them full of pages/stuff/lumps/bumps/etc!

I just recently bought some CM strap hinge albums, but there are no white pages, only a side loading plastic sleeve, where you slip your layout into it..... I am going to be using those in the future.

Well worth the cost in my humble opinion.






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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:30:48 PM
Go to Lowes, they have lovely solid screw posts in the hardware section. I personally buy the 1.5" ones for my old Colorbok Perfect Album postbound books. Posts any longer keep the bookshelf back from fitting properly. Sure beats messing with the extenders! I think they're about a buck a post.

I DID switch to 3-ring binders more recently...but still use postbound for some things/sometimes add pages to older albums/like to use up the inventoroy I have. Post extenders make me crazy. BTW, the Lowes ones are nicely engineered so even their extenders WORK!



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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:17:36 PM
I also only use CM albums and have never had one fall apart for 12 years. I am interested in these new CM albums that slide in? I just bought 5 of the regular ones from them during the album sale they had in January.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:32:49 PM
Whoohoo! Thanks for all your expertise... and I've already tossed all of those dang lil' post extenders!!!


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Posted: 1/24/2013 6:38:09 PM
I buy posts at the hardware store, they're long and one piece. I think I get 3 for under $3, so I buy two packs at a time to have even numbers


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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:20:39 PM
Jend23, the cm albums are not new, it is the pages that go into them. You can still order the regular pages that are solid white and then you slide the protector over them. Or you can get the new side load pages. They go into your album the same way and you just slide your layout into it.

The albums haven't changed since the went to the "new" 12x12 a few years ago.

As a side note, I have also used cm albums since 1997 and they have been moved by the military no less than 4 times and twice by me to 6 different houses in three different states and been stuck in storage for a few months and they all look brand new with absolutely no sagging.


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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:03:19 PM
If you do go to 3-Ring, I recommend you really check out the rings in the album before you buy it...I have seen ones in the store where the bottom ring don't close together all the way even when the album is new. I haven't had that issue with the WRMK albums though. Our Target started carrying them.

If I use post-bound, I only like the CTMH albums. I find I can really load those puppies up and extend the posts without any issues. I haven't found other brands to be a sturdy, especially the cutesy decorative ones. The CTMH page protectors are really nice too.


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Posted: 1/25/2013 5:22:08 AM
I use the snapload system from pioneer. They work great.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 10:55:15 AM
This is why most of my books are in 3-rings. Even though I could get the posts in, they will only hold so many pages anyhow!

Unfortunately, I have my 2012 book jammed too full, and even though it's 3-ring, the weight of the book is starting to pull the binder clips off the spine of the album. So I feel for you about the "scrapbooks falling apart!" part of this.

Right now I have January through October in that 3-ring (D-ring.) November and December are in a postbound, because I don't think I'll have so many for those two months, just knew I had too many for one book.

I also have one other postbound that needs to be put to good use, but I think it's going to be temporary holding for 2013 until I get a new d-ring. And then I'll probably find some topic that needs a small scrapbook, I always do.



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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:24:49 AM
Old habits die hard and I am still using post bound albums but it's time to make the switch. How many layouts (I don't use items if they create bulk under my page protector, it bugs me) can fit in a D-ring binder?

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Posted: 1/25/2013 1:36:44 PM
This! especially if you buy the ones at HL....check the little plastic label holder on the spine, too....some are not sewn on good.


If you do go to 3-Ring, I recommend you really check out the rings in the album before you buy it...I have seen ones in the store where the bottom ring don't close together all the way even when the album is new.


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Posted: 1/25/2013 1:39:01 PM
where in Lowe's do you find these little critters? That is one big store!


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Posted: 1/25/2013 3:10:17 PM
I used one post type and that did it in for me. Ever since it's been 3 ring or D ring. I only use post ones for special occasions albums or gifts.



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Posted: 1/25/2013 7:25:24 PM
I had only ever used CM albums and pages, until I needed to our trip to Disney and I need to be able to load it full. I bought my first 3 ring binder! American Crafts, I believe, LOVE IT!!! I will continue to use the CM, however if I need to have an album for bulk it will be the 3ring.

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Posted: 1/25/2013 7:33:01 PM
Yep! Converting to the D-rings!


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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:18:28 PM
Thanks for answering Mari about the CM album pages. I haven't tried them yet, but I have them ready and waiting for me to fill up!





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