So frustrated with bulk ATG refills...

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Posted 3/9/2013 by Frazzled Mom in General Scrappin'
 

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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:39:29 AM
Has anyone else had difficulty with ATG refills bought in bulk? I started using my ATG at school to mount the kids' artwork and it was getting expensive so I bought a bulk batch from TheTapeDepot. (There, I said it. Hopefully it doesn't violate the TOU because Two Peas doesn't sell tape and we need to adhere our Two Peas supplies after all...)

The tape is garbage. It doesn't stick! I did a whole display wall of artwork - just taping construction paper layers together - and it's all falling down off the walls. And I used a LOT of tape on each item. Much more than I ever used with the name brand refills from the boy store.

Not to mention, the tape doesn't flow smoothly out of the gun ( I did replace the refill in case it was operator error and I reloaded it improperly) Has anyone else had problems or did I get a bad batch of tape?





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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:44:52 AM
That's what I thought, too, and has me wondering if I got a bad batch, or if the refills are so cheap because they are poorer quality.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:48:05 AM
Hmmm...that's weird. I've never had a problem with them. Have you contacted them to see if you can get a refund or a replacement?


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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:10:14 AM
I haven't had any problems with mine. I'd contact them.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:10:44 AM
I haven't contacted them yet. My first impulse was to check with the Peas on all matters scrapping...



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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:23:20 AM
I've never had any problems with their tape and I go through about 75 rolls a year. I have cards I created years ago that are still adhered tightly. After you put down whatever it is you're gluing, do you then run your hand around where the adhesive is to make sure it's fully adhered?

The only problem I ever had was when I was starting a new roll and the adhesive stuck to the wrong side of the brown paper. It started out wrong. So, now I just double check to make sure it's stuck to the right side of the brown paper before I get it really going.

I find that when the roll is down to maybe 25% left, it does take a little more effort to get it to roll, but, for the cost difference I can live with that.



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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:31:24 AM

After you put down whatever it is you're gluing, do you then run your hand around where the adhesive is to make sure it's fully adhered?



Absolutely! Since I used tape around all four sides as well as an X though the center of the paper, I apply pressure to the entire page in the same pattern.

I brought the gun home so I'm going to toss this roll and begin again with a new refill and see if I get better results.

Thanks for the input, Ladies.



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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:40:34 AM
I buy exclusively from TtD, no issues with not sticking. It will tear the papers & paint when I try to move a photo around.

Contact them and see what they say.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 11:48:42 AM
Which stock number did you order?

I use 7502 and 7502X (I have two ATG's: a yellow 1/2" & the pink 1/4"

I agree with the pp, I'd contact them.



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Posted: 3/9/2013 11:55:31 AM
Oh I am so sorry that happened to you. I use the reverse wound acid free tape, and have not had a problem with it. In the beginning, I was afraid my cards would come apart, since they did with my old tape runners. I have had cards that I have done a long time ago still holding up fine. I would call or email them to tell them what happened.

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Posted: 3/9/2013 12:25:57 PM
The only problem I have is the tape is stuck on the wrong side but you can google and read the correction for it. I am not good at explaining. My dh will do it for me and several of my scrapping friends can easily flip the tape to the right side. Definitely not a major issue for the money I save. As for adhering to projects, never had a problem.

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Posted: 3/9/2013 1:34:06 PM
Wow, I sure hope you just got a bad roll.... I just ordered a bunch from tapedepot and started using it yesterday. So far, so good and with such an awesome price, I'm hoping it can replace the 3M stuff I usually buy...


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Posted: 3/9/2013 1:35:23 PM
Are you mounting it to a cinder block wall? The kind that no tape known to man will adhere to?

The only tape that I have ever found that will adhere to a school wall is the 3M clear packing tape. And only small amounts of tape. If you use a big run of tape, the whole thing just pulls off the wall.

I think they have something in the paint to keep the walls from getting marked up. But I never did have much luck getting tape to stick to the school walls.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 2:28:07 PM
I haven't had any problems. Maybe you got a bad batch.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 3:24:40 PM
Just a thought, but some construction papers are kind of fuzzy, sort of like felt, which can cause the glue not to be able to attach properly.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:22:25 PM
I'm thinking (respectfully) that it could be you. You need to know your products and use them properly. Most dry tapes will not be compatible with construction paper for hanging on a wall. In general, your tape is going to stick to the sort of fuzzy surface of that type of paper, not the actual paper. I use wet glue or glue sticks on construction paper.

Before you declare it garbage, you at least need to ensure that you used the tape with the proper materials.





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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:27:11 PM
Just chiming in.... Two Peas does sell the adhesive refills! You can find them HERE .

They're out of stock at the moment, but be sure to click "notify me" so that they can be restocked & sent your way.



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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:40:11 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not attaching the art to a wall with tape, merely trying to mount a drawing to a background piece of construction paper before pinning it to the display board. We try never to poke holes in the children's art, so this way the holes are in the background paper.



I suppose it could be the texture of the construction paper, but I never had a problem with the layers coming unstuck when I used the name brand refills.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 7:04:11 PM
I would contact Tape Depot or try another roll-just like with 3M tape you can get a bad roll. I've ordered several bulk orders from TD and have had no issues.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:19:14 PM
I have been ordering from them for at least 5 years, a few sets of 12 per year, never had a problem. Maybe you got a bad batch?


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Posted: 3/9/2013 10:06:45 PM
I like the generic ones over the real thing ten times over...i think you got a bad bunch

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Posted: 3/10/2013 7:17:43 AM
I am thinking it might be the construction paper two. If it is the cheap paper like they make today the fibers aren't messed together very well and they come apart easily. I have had this problem with some super cheap cardstock as well.



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Posted: 3/10/2013 7:51:29 AM
I had the same problem from the mentioned on-line store. They were kind enough to give me a full refund though. The only luck I've had with a on-line store for the refill was the one with Frame in the name. I preferred buying with coupon from the boy store because of the expense though. I'm right there with you in desperation now as to what to do. Pay a fortune on-line or try to search for another vendor. I don't understand why the big box jumped on the bandwagon of selling the ATG gun and won't supply the refills any more to the people that bought them. Good luck.


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Posted: 3/10/2013 8:22:25 AM
I had two rolls that had the glue stuck to the wrong side. I didn't know there was a fix for that!


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Posted: 3/10/2013 8:24:18 AM
I've had the same problem from *that* online store. I found about 1/2 of the rolls weren't wound right (I know, sounds strange) and the stickiness is is "iffy" at best. Now I stick to the *other* framing site.


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Posted: 3/10/2013 5:24:23 PM
I swear by findtape their generic brand is just as good as 3M to me and they sell the Scapa tape (which I really like) for the 1/2" gun. Also they even tell you how to fix your tape if you find it is not "wound" right.


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Posted: 3/10/2013 7:20:00 PM
I use the same tape as slyn11 and haven't had issues. It's also even cheaper than the depot!
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Posted: 3/10/2013 7:40:58 PM
I think it's the construction paper. My tape works great until I tape construction paper stuff on walls at the school.


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