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Tanya Batrak
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Posted: 4/18/2013 1:50:38 AM
Girls, I have a question. May be I'm too old too conservative too I don't know too right but I do not understand the girls who use photos from web for their LOs, photos of strangers from Google image. That's just weird for me! May be I'm wrong or what? Or this is some kind of a new fashion?


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Posted: 4/18/2013 2:09:03 AM
Depends on the "photos of strangers" you mean, but I use photos from the web. Either licensed photos from my fave TV shows (like for the finale of Spartacus), or official photos from restaurants that we've visited and won't see again. Anything that might support the story I want to tell, if it's a visual I saw while at that location, that kind of thing. Sometimes you go to a place and you're just too involved with what you're doing you forget to take photos. The internet is there to support that. I see nothing wrong with it. You're not making profit off of using the photos in your scrapping.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 2:44:23 AM
No no I mean photo of people. When I saw this LO I though it was she on pict, but then I found out that's just a random photo from web

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--pMOTb1QmO8/UT2n70JpdyI/AAAAAAAAFR0/FFcgTKfZo2Y/s1600/1-%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5+087-002.jpg

and photo from web

http://favim.com/image/43874/


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Posted: 4/18/2013 3:12:17 AM
Well, without journalling and stuff, it looks like she was just playing around with supplies and added a random pic. I don't really get it, but then I don't get art journalling either. ((shrugs)) Can you read the caption added to the photo?


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Posted: 4/18/2013 3:39:35 AM
When someone use photo cut out from a magazine for her art journal well it's quite common. For this particular LO she does not mention anywhere that this is not her on photo and she found it in web and just printed. This LO received lots of WOW comments and nobody knows that it's not her photo not her memory not her feelings. I do not understand why somebody wants to scrap a photo of a complete stranger and keep this LO.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 4:39:40 AM
I don't understand it either. Or the people who steal photos from other personal blogs and make up their own stories. Even though there is a watermark or part of a watermark on the photos.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 5:07:00 AM
It does seem a bit weird, and certainly not something I would do.

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Posted: 4/18/2013 6:06:47 AM
I've used a photo of one of our favorite singers after going to a concert, but if I really had a NEED to do more layouts that I didn't have photos for, I would probably either go outside and take some, or even use ones I'd already done before I just scrapped someone's else's. Cause if I found that someone had done that with my pics I would feel a little weird about it.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 7:01:11 AM
Not people...except a concert or play.

shots I missed or can't get....yes. I got a lot of entrance signs to national parks when I made my national park album. I never shot them until I started sbing.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 9:29:37 AM
I can't imagine using pictures of random strangers on my layouts, but I've definitely used pics of places/things that I wanted to capture the memory of but wasn't able to get a good photo myself. As a recent example, some starlings built nests in our bathroom vents and I want to document it in my Project Life, but I couldn't get a good photo of one of the birds before they were "evicted", so I'm planning to use a stock photo from the internet. It doesn't bother me that it won't be a picture of *the* bird. I've done this a lot with restaurants as another pea mentioned. I would just never submit anything for publication that didn't have my photos on it because I wouldn't feel right about it, even if I gave credit.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 9:33:29 AM
I don't use photos of people but of locations. I did this once for our Disney album. It was a day where we spent the entire day at the hotel pool and I didn't bring my camera. What was I thinking? Anyway, the pool is gorgeous so I found photos without people and journaled our story.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 10:57:24 AM
I do not understand using photos of people from the web in scrapbooking (unless, of course, if people happen to be in a shot I need of, say, a restaurant). I can see using it in artistic journaling/blogging, but somewhere there should be an attribution if one is publishing the artwork.

But returning to scrapbooking, I have a friend who scrapbooks and she will not put any photos in her scrapbook she did not take herself. She says it's "lying" because "everyone thinks a scrapbook consists only of photos you took personally and if you include photos others took then you're lying to the people viewing your scrapbook." I disagree with her on every count.

I have used pictures from my childhood that I obviously didn't take. Or professional pictures of my kids that I didn't take. Or my wedding photos -- I certainly wasn't behind the camera on my wedding day.

I often use photos from the web in my travel scrapbooks as often a site might not allow photography. I'm not going to ignore my visit to the Sistine Chapel in my scrapbook or only talk about it without showing it, because I did not personally take a picture.

Often I will buy postcards to compensate. But sometimes such sites either don't have postcards or I don't like their postcards. Or the postcard does not match what I saw. For example, I was just scrapping pages on our trip to England and many of the postcards available show a blue sky and brilliant sun, whereas it rained most of our visit. So those postcards are not evocative of what we saw or experienced. Therefore, I went on the web and found pics with an environment similar to what we actually experienced.

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Posted: 4/18/2013 11:10:27 AM
Without knowing who the scrapper/blogger is, just judging from that one layout, I'd say they're more interested in the art than the memory keeping. It's like the photo is almost an excuse (? - that's not the right word but ...) to show off all the products and techniques. In other words, the photo is not the point of the page. They don't provide any journaling, details of the photo, or even the date so to me it's clearly for art's sake.

ETA: I just looked at the layout again and see the blog address this time. And now I see the tiny date too (although it's meaningless if it's a stock photo, lol).

As far as others who publish layouts using internet photos of people, maybe they're like me and don't want to put photos of their loved ones on the internet. But they still want to share their talent so they use stock photos instead. Just a thought ...



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Posted: 4/18/2013 11:39:23 AM
My favourite thing about that layout is the date itself - we are seeing INTO THE FUTURE! It's dated 2014.

But I had a look at some posts on her blog, and she has a lot of collage art work and projects that involve papercrafting techniques that wouldn't necessarily fit under 'scrapbooking' as we tend to define it, so I'm inclined to go with the idea above that she was inspired by the supplies, the photo, a sketch, etc and just felt compelled to make something rather than feeling compelled to document a specific memory of an event with her own pictures. She is certainly very talented and creative - I would just guess her motives for gluing paper to other paper is a little different to those who scrap for documentation or to enjoy their own pictures.

I noticed in the amazing Google translated English of another of her posts that she says a picture of someone she does not know inspired her to daydream about that person's life and her own at the age of the girl in the picture. That sounds like it could be quite therapeutic and certainly fall under the category of art journaling - even if the 'journaling' part is more in her head while she creates than words written on the page.

So to answer the original question, I wouldn't think particular a scrapbook fashion - I would say it is something inspiring that person as an artist right now, and her artwork is taking a form that has similarity with scrapbook pages. I don't think you have to worry about it becoming a big trend or anything, but if it is inspiring her to create, then cool for her. (I do wish the photos would be credited to their source, because that is just an issue to me personally with photos, music, etc, but I know there are differing opinions on that.)


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Posted: 4/18/2013 12:25:41 PM
Can somebody please provide a link I am intrigued?


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Posted: 4/18/2013 12:40:36 PM
When scrapping a layout about 911, I used photos from the Internet. But that is the only time that I recall.

I think it must be a sad and lonely person, who has no decent pictures of her own, to take someone else's photo for scrapping.

ETA: I should have looked at the links before commenting. It looks more like someone doing an artistic endeavor. Maybe she just liked the photo. Or maybe it was for a class assignment.

Still, I would personally prefer to take my own picture and use it, even for an art project.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 12:50:20 PM
Joanne, there are links in the 3rd post



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Posted: 4/18/2013 2:15:27 PM
It is a great page but the only thing that would have stuck out to me is that it is dated for next year . The pic is great but I'm guessing she has a reason for using it- maybe something she wants to do, photo idea?


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Posted: 4/18/2013 2:25:05 PM
If it didn't have "today" with an arrow pointing to the picture, I would say the date might mean this is how she pictures herself in a year. Maybe she's going through a rough patch and it's her goal to get through that and feel more free in a year's time. I think if she blatantly said that was her picture, that would be very wrong, and I agree with Shimelle that proper credit should be given.

I agree with a pp that having a "no pics that aren't my own rule" is a little ridiculous... I've started scrapping my proposal day pictures that were taken by another photographer, have scrapped all my senior pictures from high school, and I will certainly be scrapping my wedding photos and other professional couple/family photos!! I think any people looking at my albums will be able to tell the difference between those pro photos and ones I took, lol.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 2:25:55 PM
Thanks journey fan but that doesn't work from my iPad. I will try to remember to look when I am at work tomorrow

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Posted: 4/18/2013 3:28:50 PM
I can see why people would use stock photos if they are doing layouts either for someone else, like on a design team, or just trying to show a layout or technique and don't want to use their own pics or don't have any pics to showcase some product.

I have subbed out photos when I submitted layouts for contests or publication in order to have the best possible pics on the layout, when the actual original family pics were far less impressive. Then when I got the layout back I repleced the pics with hte original ones I was scrapping for my own memories.


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Posted: 4/18/2013 4:41:51 PM
I've never done this, but I can see why someone might.

When I was a teen, for instance, I used to have a giant scrapbook (One of those large square books with sheets of plain white paper inside. Not scrapbooks like we make today.)


And I use to cut pics from magazines and catalogs and paste them in there. I'd add quotes, captions, thoughts, feeling, doodles, or stickers.

It was a like a mix of Pinterest and scrapbooking.

It was just pictures that I liked, compiled in one place. I'm "old", this was pre-internet, people---I couldn't just bookamrk these things.


There were pics of cars, houses, vacation resorts, landscapes, cities, and yes, people. People wearing clothing that I liked. Or looking particularly happy. Or looking in some way like something I might like for myself some day.

Pics of men I thought were handsome. Even pics of kids I thought were cute.

It wasn't anything creepy, weird, or stalkerish. I didn't want to go find that cute guy or have a kid just like those ones in the ad. It was just a visual representation of things I liked and dreams I had at the time.


Maybe the LO posted features a photo that spoke to the LO creator in some way. Maybe it just made them happy and they wanted to keep a copy of it.

I have no idea where that photo came from. Is it an ad? A cover from a book? A movie promo shot? A blog header?

I don't know. And perhaps where it came from would make a difference to me. And perhaps if it was a close-up of someone's face it would make a difference to me.

If the LO was sold, it would definitely make a difference to me.

But just the idea of creating something from a photo not your own or not of you, for your own personal artistic use, in itself does not necessarily bother me.





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Posted: 4/18/2013 4:45:15 PM
I can also definitely see using a stock photo on a LO that is for a design team, as mentioned above. If you are creating photos for a baby line, and have no baby photos, then a stock baby photo would be a great choice.


Or if you made a LO of your new home, but wanted to post it to Peas, and your photo shows you street number plus other identifying info. I could totally see using the real photo on the LO, but scanning it with a temporary random house pic instead to protect that sensitive info about yourself.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 4:46:55 PM

She says it's "lying" because "everyone thinks a scrapbook consists only of photos you took personally and if you include photos others took then you're lying to the people viewing your scrapbook."


I would never assume that about any album in a million years.

People share photos all of the time. Of many course people will want to put those shared photos with their other photos. That makes total sense to me.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 5:06:45 PM


I would never assume that about any album in a million years.

People share photos all of the time. Of many course people will want to put those shared photos with their other photos. That makes total sense to me.
Well, I agree with you.It would never occur to me that a scrapbook would only contain the photos personally taken by the scrapbook creator.

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Posted: 4/18/2013 5:15:45 PM

Well, I agree with you.It would never occur to me that a scrapbook would only contain the photos personally taken by the scrapbook creator.


I'm going to guess that in any given year my albums contain photos taken by at least a dozen people.

And that's not counting professional portraits.

And my wedding album? I couldn't even guess how many people gave me photos for that.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 6:06:37 PM
I was thinking along the same line as JourneyFan and Shimelle, probably in this case at least, for the art.

I can see why some people might do that, but I'd still take the photos myself. Perhaps the image was something that spoke to her in some way, that she couldn't recreate herself. That my guess, for what its worth.



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Posted: 4/18/2013 11:55:25 PM
So i don't really get it either. Shimelle, so i'm not crazy for getting a little annoyed when my friend uses pictures i took, and doesn't credit them, for DT work, blogging, etc? It's always annoyed me.

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Posted: 4/19/2013 1:25:28 AM
Ok that is pretty weird


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Posted: 4/19/2013 4:08:03 AM
Girls, thank you very much for your answers!! Yes her works are very beautiful and is very talented. And I probably IS too conservative about the meaning of scrapbooking. It's weird for me.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 4:23:50 AM
I scrap pictures I take and many from friends and family that I do not, it doesn't bother me to scrap pictures from someone else. I have scrap pictures from off the internet for artistic growth an I always mention where it came from. I was more thrown by the lack scrapbooking on the page than the picture itself, I just can't scrap like that. It's amazing how we arrive at different ways to scrapbook, but to each its own.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 6:31:56 AM
I think there was this criticism of a well-known scrapbooking magazine a number of years back. They used stock photos (or maybe the contributor did, I can't remember which). I think the defence was that they were showing the products and technique.

Also, I wouldn't use the link above but would copy and paste it into your browser or we might have a peatlejuice.

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Posted: 4/19/2013 6:40:24 AM
I do it all the time, and of people, too. I use whatever I need to use to document my memories. For example, we recently have a new Pope. I wasn't there to grab a photo, ya know? But I took one from the web to put in my PL for that day because I wanted to journal about it. Stuff like that. I have also grabbed news photos of total strangers when I made a layout of an event my son went to that I had no photos of - just the texts he sent me about it with his impressions about the crowd - I grabbed news photos of the crowd - total strangers - but the photos supported the texts that I used for the layout. I also do the things that have also been mentioned about getting online photos of restaurants and entrance signs to places I've forgotten to take to add to layouts later.

I am not publishing any of this stuff - it's just for me - so any way I want to document my memories is the way I do it. That is what a scrapbook is for me. No other rule than that.

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Posted: 4/19/2013 8:48:31 AM
I've also scrapbooked pictures my family and friends took. I didn't always feel the need to take out my camera when two of my friends already were snapping photos of us. It's so easy now to send a person a picture. It also lets us focus more in enjoying the moment rather than stopping for 10 different cameras. Ill probably even journal why and give credit somewhere on the layout or back so you would know its not my photo. Film also use to be expensive so at a family party not at our house the other family member was taking the pictures.

I've saved online menus and maps too to print out. It's not the same as the real thing but maybe I forgot to grab one.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 12:43:06 PM
If you only scrapbook pics that you take, how do you get pics of yourself? I guess you can use a timer or remote, but they will all be posed.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 12:56:21 PM

Also, I wouldn't use the link above but would copy and paste it into your browser or we might have a peatlejuice.


Oops, deleted the link! I forgot about that. It's probably why the OP didn't put it, lol.



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Posted: 4/19/2013 1:21:23 PM


If you only scrapbook pics that you take, how do you get pics of yourself? I guess you can use a timer or remote, but they will all be posed.



I hand the camera off to another family member of friend. If I'm using the camera that I keep in my purse instead of my expensive DSLR, I am willing to hand it over to a stranger if necessary. Did that a week ago when we went to a cool restaurant for DS' birthday. One of the other patrons saw me taking pictures and offered to take one of our whole group with me in the picture, too. I handed my little purse camera over without a second thought.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 2:44:55 PM
I have used images from google to scrapbook about vacations and trips. I think of them like postcards. Sometimes I don't get all the shots I want.

Why not?

Many years ago, the original art of scrapbooking didn't generally include any photographs as we know them today...it was *all* borrowed art.







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Posted: 4/19/2013 3:43:02 PM
I do screenshots of all kinds of things for my scrapbooks...from whatever site I find an image. I'm not selling it so no issues. Helps complete my PL if I have printed screenshots of say the Weather Channel app to show truly how that day was weather-wise. It completes me.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 4:19:34 PM
I'm also using photos from the Disney World Photo Pass CD. It included, well, it says hundreds, but I thin it's less than that. Anyway, I included them as well as the photos we took. Sometimes they'll get nicer firework photos than we were able to take with the woman in front of us shoving us out of the way and holding her stupid cell phone up in front of our faces to get shots. I wanted to punch her.

But yeah, I don't want those crap photos, I want the nice stock photos in my album. At least that way I can remember the experience fondly instead of being pissed at that woman all over again!


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Posted: 4/19/2013 6:44:53 PM
I did a 4th of July layout and needed pictures of fireworks which I didn't have so I went on the internet and got some free ones that were good to download. other than that I have never used other peoples pictures from the internet. It might be her in the picture or it might be somebody she knows in the picture. but other than that I have no idea why people use other peoples pictures.




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Posted: 4/19/2013 11:42:02 PM

When someone use photo cut out from a magazine for her art journal well it's quite common. For this particular LO she does not mention anywhere that this is not her on photo and she found it in web and just printed. This LO received lots of WOW comments and nobody knows that it's not her photo not her memory not her feelings. I do not understand why somebody wants to scrap a photo of a complete stranger and keep this LO.

huh. to each their own, I guess-- I have no problem with it. Why do you say the page not showing the scrapper's feelings, just because the photo isn't of her or taken by her?

I make art journal pages to evoke specific feelings, and I use internet-sourced images on them quite often, as well as pics from magazines, etc. Are you saying I'm supposed to spell out 'hey, this image that I used on my page is NOT me, just in case you're wondering??' every time I post a photo of my page on my blog? Where is that 'rule' written?? You have no idea WHY this scrapper made that page-- obviously, that photo evoked some emotions for her that she wanted to include on her page. And you're sort of implying that it doesn't qualify as an 'art journal' page-- what makes you think that? Just because it happens to be 12x12??

There aren't any rules that I'm aware of that say scrapbooking is ONLY supposed to be photos we personally took, of only people we know, or to remember places we've personally gone, or that art journal pages cannot be 12x12. (or if there are, I haven't read them, lol!)



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Posted: 4/19/2013 11:53:09 PM
and apparently, someone has posted on this woman's blog the fact that she was 'stealing' photos to use in her artwork, so she's been humiliated publicly and made to feel badly about doing it, even though she explained why she used that particular pic. So... way to go to stifle someone's creativity, there, to whoever did the accusing. (not saying it was anyone here... just my general cynicism showing.)



"Accepting anything without question is the antithesis of critical thinking and education. ~wren*walk, 8/20/12"

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