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Posted 1/23/2014 by RoseRose812 in General Scrappin'
 

RoseRose812
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Posted: 1/23/2014 10:33:20 AM
..On average how much do you charge? Ive been asked to do a full album about 20 layouts and some pocket pages added because of the amount of photos. 100 photos total. Medium embellished, nothing real thick to add too much bulk because of the amount of pages that need to be in it..... What would you charge per page or for the whole thing? Ive never done an album for payment before and i want to make sure my numbers are reasonable. I need help peas!



RoseRose812
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Posted: 1/23/2014 10:36:56 AM
Sorry, i just saw that something similar was already asked. Did not see that before i posted. I still need help though!!



RoseRose812
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Posted: 1/23/2014 11:15:33 AM
OKay so i was thinking $500.00 for the whole album for my time and supplies. And that would be filling the album to MAX with layouts and pocket pages. What do you think? Too low? Too high? Reasonable? I want it to be worth my time. I dont do this as a business and i'm behind on my own scrapbooking.



redshoes73
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Posted: 1/23/2014 11:25:17 AM
I have no idea what people would actually pay, but $500 seems reasonable for what you describe. It's the time that is costly, not the supplies, in comparison.

coffeegal85
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Posted: 1/23/2014 11:35:19 AM
I don't scrap for other people, but I think if I told someone $500 for a scrapbook, I would give that person sticker shot. Why don't you break it down? How many hours do you think it will take? Multiple that by what you think you should make an hour - $10, $15, etc. How much do you plan on spending on supplies? Will this person be providing any supplies for you? Scrapbooking is expensive and time consuming, but non-scrappers don't necessarily know that.

mswhittaker23
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Posted: 1/23/2014 12:16:18 PM
I agree with the poster above - I think I would have the person pay cost for the supplies, then charge an hourly rate. It might be less of a shock to them.

Then again, I'm assuming you know this person well and $500 would be reasonable to them?

(Not that $500 isn't worth it, believe me, I know it is, but if this person isn't a scrapbooker they probably have no clue the cost and the hours involved).


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Amy Grace
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Posted: 1/23/2014 12:48:01 PM
I wouldn't do scrap for hire because in the region I live in, no one would pay what I'd charge. And I don't mean that I'd charge astronomical rates, but I'm not going to make an album for someone else for $2/hour, which is probably what they'd want to pay. I'd want $10/hour plus supplies(which would probably get 2 pages per hour - yes, I'm very quick). That would mean my typical album would be $300 plus supplies, definitely pushing that $500 mark. While I think charging $500 would probably be fair, I think the vast majority of people would have complete and utter sticker shock at the price. :$

For a while I actually kept track of what my pages cost me. They averaged $2 per one page. So $2 plus $5 labor is $7, with an average of 60 pages per album, that would be $420, plus an album and page protectors $42 = $462 for me to do it. Assuming they provided the prints already printed. I'm a super fast and product light scrapper. I'd say if you're including supplies in what you're charging, $500 has to be the minimum. This number of mine doesn't even include use (wear) of my tools or other associated costs (like time meeting with them, planning, sorting photos, delivery, etc).

Bottom line, I have enough to do for myself, my time is worth more to me than pennies by doing work for someone else. Knowing where I live, if I gave someone the number of $200, they would still be in shock, and that would barely cover expenses alone, not even my time.

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Posted: 1/23/2014 1:22:47 PM
in custom order situations, I guarantee you that when all is said and done, you will have worked more and longer than what you charged for. it will be because 1) you undercharged for the job 2) the customer had lots of requests or changes 3) you want to do a good job so you take painstaking care and time 4) you had cost over runs because of #1-3.

I do not think $500.00 in unreasonable at all especially if you are providing the materials. however, if you are in a sticker shock area, this may not be worth your time.

see, people who don't SB think that SB'ers just whip out the pages like nothing and in no time. they don't consider the all planning and decisions it takes to come up with a layout. the picking of materials, organization of the elements on the pages and cutting and adhering (if you are smart enough to measure twice, cut once) for those reasons, some are shocked by how much a true custom album would cost.




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Posted: 1/23/2014 1:41:18 PM
I charge $10 per page. That includes my time and supplies, but I make my own embellishments so really the only supplies used up are paper. I have plenty of paper as it is, so it's not too concerning for me.


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RoseRose812
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Posted: 1/23/2014 2:05:06 PM
Yeah i agree with you all. Sticker shock is what i was afraid of. Thats why i need reassurance that i wasnt being unreasonable. It would be hard for me to charge her cost supplies and an hourly rate because she wants an upfront price and how am i going to know what kind of supplies i'd need and how much time its going to take me ahead of time. I'm only guessing based on the style of layouts she wants. I havent even seen the pictures.

A little while ago i went ahead and quoted her that price. Gave her a small break down of what paper cost, stickers, letter stickers.. etc just to give her an idea. Also realistically how much time it was going to take. I think for what im offering and what shes asking for that $500.00 is fair. Will she want to pay it? Who knows? She came to me and asked for it. I dont offer this service. And if she says no thats too much. I say okay thats fine lol.. No sweat off my back. Not only was it going to be alot of work for me but it will also set me way back in what im wanting to get done personally. So not a big deal. It has to be worth my time. If not, oh well



RoseRose812
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Posted: 1/23/2014 2:06:50 PM
I do MUCH appreciate all the replies tho! It was the push that i was looking for to go ahead and quote the price.



Amy Grace
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Posted: 1/23/2014 2:14:43 PM
Your attitude about it is great. She approached you, your price is very reasonable (it's completely custom!!). Good luck!!

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Posted: 1/23/2014 3:49:19 PM
I charge $12.50 per pg plus supplies. I'm VERY Fair on supplies. What was leftover from the last page i try to use up. Also it's oversize I think 12 x 16 or 12 x 18"


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Posted: 1/23/2014 4:44:15 PM
I post on these threads almost every time one comes up. I have been doing s4o for about 10 years or more.

It is art on demand. And that is not cheap and shouldn't be.

I charge per page so that clients know exactly what they will pay. An hour of scrapbooking means nothing. They (and TBH, even I!) don't know what I can accomplish in an hr. I have done pages for clients in 10 minutes and others took 5 hours. Either extreme is few and far between, but they happen.

Clients want to know a bottom line figure.

I charge $20/page for 12x12, including supplies.

I don't change my style for people and make things more basic or fancier. I have a style and portfolio album for both 12x12 and 8.5 x 11 so clients have an idea of how pages will look. They can also easily see how many photos will fit on a page.

That being said, I love doing s4o and wish I could do more. But I have worked out what works for me.

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Posted: 1/23/2014 4:46:50 PM
I never ever charge what I should. Most people I come across could never pay what it would really cost.

I am scrapping trips for my niece, and she is paying for all supplies and then giving me something for my time. I have no idea what she is giving me; I will take it because she is my niece.

I last did 2 20 pages albums for someone and she gave me $100 total. I had about $50 in supplies including the albums so I got $50 for the 2 albums and I spent about 12 hours on both albums. So I got about $3 an hour. I am a very fast scrapper, so charging by the hour if you are a slow or moderate scrapper is not really fair. Commissioned art is not usually like that.

How much should you charge? Supplies plus some reasonable amount for your time, whatever that is.

Make sure she likes your style and is very clear about cropping, etc.
Most scrappers I know I would not pay five cents to scrap for me because they have a love for it but no real talent for it.


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Posted: 1/23/2014 5:03:40 PM
$20-25 per page is what I charge


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Posted: 1/24/2014 6:08:41 PM
I wouldn't charge less than $25.00 a page for a 12x12 page.

You should really consider your time as valuable. What about your talent, your skill? That's worth money too. It's not just what the supplies cost plus a little extra for your time.

I agree 100% with gottapeanow with everything she posted. It is art on demand.

If you go in with a price per page she can decide how many pages she wants for the album. Go in high, and make it worth your while. Otherwise, why do it? You've got your own scrapping to do, right? If it's worth it to her she'll pay it. If it's not, well at least you aren't doing it for $3.00 an hour.

I researched this thoroughly a few years ago when I considered doing this as a home business. I was all ready to launch when I became chronically ill. Now that I'm healed I've decided to go in a different direction.

Debbie in MD.

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Posted: 1/25/2014 6:59:51 AM
I really would need to see a $25 page. Now if I am scrapping for me I might have some money invested in a page, but $25?

I guess if you are thinking of yourself similarly to a photographer, they command high prices, but a 10 page album - that's 5 page protectors is $250? wow. Good work if you can get it.


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I know this is assuming, but I'm really starting to think you are one of those "entitled" peas - Dalayney 4/2/12
When someone elects you Queen of Two Peas, then you can make the rules. - Sue_Pea 12/22/13
"Myboysnme,...I bow down to you, oh queen of the scrapping goodness" - Irish Eyes 3/9/14
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