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Posted 5/5/2014 by Cinderelly in General Scrappin'


PeaNut 566,536
September 2012
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Posted: 5/5/2014 11:26:18 AM
If you've done PL in a more straightforward manner, have you ever felt like you weren't "really" scrapping?

I FINALLY got started on my Disney album this weekend (woot) and am taking a mostly PL approach since we have so many photos and I want to include a lot of journaling. I printed off a ton of cards from the Project Mouse collections and while I was slipping in cards from that and my photos, hubs made a (completely joking) comment about how I wasn't "really" scrapping, just putting things in the photo sleeves. While I know he was 100% just joking and giving me a hard time, I feel like it's sort of given me a complex about it not being "creative enough"! Ever feel that way?

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PeaNut 113,955
October 2003
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Posted: 5/5/2014 11:30:26 AM
I felt that way when I tried PL. I couldn't get into decorating the cards too much and it looked flat and blah. I stopped after a few weeks and scrapped the pictures onto 12x12 layouts.

(I am only talking about my feeble attempt at PL and have seen many lovely pages that are nicely embellished)


PeaNut 566,536
September 2012
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Posted: 5/5/2014 11:33:37 AM
I think that's part of my issue. With my weekly PL spreads, I do a lot more embellishing and tend to treat each pocket more as an individual layout vs. just sliding in my cards and photos (as the traditional PL process goes). The pages I've done for my Disney album so far have had less embellishment, therefore aren't giving me that same sense of accomplishment when I finish a page.

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PeaNut 42,180
July 2002
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Posted: 5/5/2014 11:49:06 AM
I've never done an actual PL album, but I have scrapped a vacation album in pocket pages. It didn't save me any time, because I spent so much energy embellishing each card and photo that I could have just done the whole thing in 12x12! If I didn't do all the embellishing, the pages felt boring to me.

It taught me not to bother starting a PL album and to stick to my regular scrapbooks. No biggie. Different strokes....


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PeaNut 37,419
May 2002
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Posted: 5/5/2014 12:01:27 PM
To me, sharing life stories with words and images (whether that is embellishments, stories, memorabilia or a combination of them) is the core of scrapbooking.


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PeaNut 198,096
March 2005
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Posted: 5/5/2014 12:04:44 PM
I mix up PL page protectors with my 12x12 layouts and treat most PL pockets as mini pages, embellishing most of them as I would a larger page, so I don't fee like I'm not really scrapping.


PeaNut 176,471
November 2004
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Posted: 5/5/2014 12:18:28 PM
I only scrapbook to combine words and photos so it doesn't matter how it's done. I personally don't really like the *look* of divided page protectors, so I do most of my PL on a 12x12 canvas, but it's all the same thing. Embellish, not embellish, I don't see what that has to do with anything, since the way people scrapbook 12x12 already differs wildly. And really, if anything, my PL layouts have much more journalling than my "regular" one subject layouts.

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PeaNut 19,817
August 2001
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Posted: 5/5/2014 1:08:56 PM
To each their own. If you like PL-style scrapbooking, that's all that matters.

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PeaNut 215,272
July 2005
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Posted: 5/5/2014 1:13:34 PM
I mix up PL page protectors with my 12x12 layouts and treat most PL pockets as mini pages, embellishing most of them as I would a larger page, so I don't fee like I'm not really scrapping.

I do this as well. I PL day to day type pictures and make 12x12 layouts of like bigger things (like a zoo trip).

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PeaNut 108,542
September 2003
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Posted: 5/5/2014 1:20:04 PM

To me, sharing life stories with words and images (whether that is embellishments, stories, memorabilia or a combination of them) is the core of scrapbooking.


To suggest scrapbooking PL style isn't real scrapbooking is like saying a woman who had a C-sec didn't have a real birth.


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PeaNut 116,849
November 2003
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Loc: California

Posted: 5/5/2014 2:22:54 PM
I think the basic idea is to get your memories recorded with photographs and journaling. My "scrapbooking" style is really simple, and sometimes I feel inadequate because of it, but the whole point is to have something to look back on years down the road, even if it's just photos and journaling with no embellishments. That's something I've had to come to terms with--that I don't need to be fancy, that I don't need embellishments at all, but what is important is I get my memories written down before I forget them. I've kept a journal for years so I'm trying to view it as a journal with photos, not necessarily scrapbooking per se, to relieve some of the pressure I'm putting on myself.

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PeaNut 23,809
October 2001
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Posted: 5/5/2014 2:27:31 PM
On one hand, I think I have felt like I was "cheating" not making layouts and just doing PL (I do both now) but on the other hand, Project Life is not really all that simple to me and I'm still telling stories and using my stuff so I do think it's really scrapping.

I can relate to your comment though because my friend saw me posting my PL spreads on my blog and she didn't really understand what it was and she said, "You don't even scrapbook anymore, all you do is that LIFE thing." LOL! I was like, "That is scrapbooking!!!"


PeaNut 560,029
July 2012
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Posted: 5/5/2014 5:06:39 PM
I agree. PL is scrapbooking. I don't think it's much different then using a page kit. And many do that. I started PL this year the monthly version. I did feel like I wasn't staying true to the LO side of scrapbooking. But I've discovered that I print out too much pictures for PL so I scrap the ones that don't make it in and have finally found a balance.

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PeaNut 26,836
January 2002
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Posted: 5/5/2014 6:35:02 PM
When I think back to any vintage scrapbooks I have seen over the years I see pages with photos pasted or taped to them, along with any or all of the following: newspaper or magazine clippings, pretty pictures cut out from greeting cards, periodicals, postcards, etc., and any sort of memorabilia that may have gone along with the photos.

All journalling and titles (if either were even present) were simply hand written or drawn.

And they absolutely called them scrapbooks. They contains scraps of papers that in turn showed scraps of their lives.

PL pages with pretty pictures (PL cards), photos, and some journalling here and there are very much the same. Scraps of paper and photos showing portions of our lives. So why would we call it anything other than a scrapbook?

A photo album is meant to hold photos. And if an album indeed contains nothing but photos, then I do refer to it as a photo album.

But when any amount of time or effort has been made to include extra information and decoration, then it is a scrapbook in my eyes.

Just because we have created a hobby that is a more elaborate form of an old idea doesn't mean that the term only applies to the more elaborate versions.

(PS: My opinion is coming from someone who has never actually done a true PL album or used any PL products. So I'm not just saying that because I would like to validate my own album. )


PeaNut 588,718
June 2013
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Posted: 5/5/2014 7:40:47 PM
I never considered that embellishments made it scrapbooking. All memory keeping is scrapbooking if it contains scraps of stuff in a book type container. Those scraps can be photos or memorabilia or embellishments. I think defining scrapbooking in narrow terms in order to tell others that what they do isn't scrapbooking is a jerk move.

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PeaNut 8,771
December 2000
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Posted: 5/5/2014 11:19:05 PM
If you like it, and it serves your purpose, it's scrapbooking.



PeaNut 511,602
June 2011
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Posted: 5/6/2014 3:37:10 AM
I think if you are adding any embellies etc then it is defo scrapping but Especially if you add journalling. Surely journalling is scrapbooking?
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PeaNut 460,363
March 2010
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Posted: 5/6/2014 5:37:06 AM
So, in, the end, will people understand your story, or not?

If you're not sending your stories, what does the rest of it matter?

I've been a dilettante, but I'm thinking of dabbling in something else.


PeaNut 538,842
January 2012
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Posted: 5/6/2014 6:02:35 AM
Maybe you could include a few more traditional layouts into the mix, that way you have the best of both worlds.

We are planning to take our first Disney trip next spring and I my plan is to use lots of pocket pages and throw in some traditional layouts and full page photos as well.


PeaNut 3,602
April 2000
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Posted: 5/6/2014 6:20:16 AM
Are you putting a memory on paper so someone else can see it?

Then you are scrapbooking. It is about the story not the stuff.

That's why I love PL. It is easy to focus on words + photos. It's the same reason I like pie better than cupcakes/cakes!

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PeaNut 157,905
July 2004
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Posted: 5/6/2014 9:40:23 PM
It's not a matter of real or not real, just variations on a theme. Same as digital vs traditional, the methods are different but the end result is the same: photos are preserved and memories are saved so it's all good no matter how you go about it. I think every person who makes scrapbooks in any form will naturally gravitate toward the methods that give them the most personal satisfaction based on what they want to get out of the process as well as the end result.

For me, I really enjoy the process of pulling together two page layouts with traditional supplies and I enjoy the completed layouts so that's what I usually do. But that doesn't mean that I won't do some other types of scrapping if my situation or the project calls for it.


PeaNut 471,601
June 2010
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Posted: 5/7/2014 1:37:23 AM
I think it probably depends on your definition of scrapbooking. If your definition includes using lots of products and engaging fully in the creative process of producing a very fine 12x12 canvas, then simply putting cards in pockets probably can feel like 'cheating' or cutting corners.

My definition is based around preserving my memories and whether that involves a pile of product or not is irrelevant to me.

I use a mix of pockets and 12x12 pages in my scrapbooks. I have used this approach for several years now and I love using the pocket pages for those extra photos that I want to include but don't have time or will to create a 12x12 page for. It's great for including additional stories or supplementary information to an existing page.

There is an element of creativity involved in slotting photos and cards in pockets. Firstly there is the choice of cards - plain, patterned, quote or other. Writing or not? The order of the cards on the page and coordinating those with the photos as far as possible.

I enjoy both processes as much as each other. Particularly if I'm short on time and want to play with paper to some degree! Also, from my families perspective, photos in an album are there to be enjoyed whereas photos in a box waiting to be scrapped cannot.

Embrace it all.

And one final thought to this essay, isn't there some definition that scrapbooking is the art of spending $50 to showcase a 5c photo? Well, I'm sure PL cards fit into that price bracket....
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Posted: 5/8/2014 6:38:16 PM

And one final thought to this essay, isn't there some definition that scrapbooking is the art of spending $50 to showcase a 5c photo? Well, I'm sure PL cards fit into that price bracket....

Who ever said that does not know that some photos are PRICELESS!!!

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