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Posted: 10/4/2010 12:58:17 PM
Which type is the chocolate covered caramel popcorn? TIA

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Posted: 10/4/2010 1:34:45 PM
It's the Chocolatey Caramel Crunch.

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Posted: 10/4/2010 1:46:47 PM
And it's a million dollars.

Good Lord. I supported the sale because I always support the Girl Scouts, but you can buy one box of cookies for what, $4? The small bag of caramel corn was $9!


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Posted: 10/4/2010 1:48:29 PM

Good Lord. I supported the sale because I always support the Girl Scouts, but you can buy one box of cookies for what, $4? The small bag of caramel corn was $9!


I know what you mean! When I heard how much more per item the Boy Scouts made than the Girl Scouts though, I could see why it cost more. Our Girl Scout troop makes about 50 cents per box. I think the Boy Scouts make way more than that from what I've been told by other parents.

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It is pricey. But, I'm looking at the brochure right now and every item tells you how much goes to "local Scouting" and it's 70% on every item. When they say "local Scouting" I wonder if they mean to your troop or den or whatever the heck they call it (I'm very new to boy scouting) or if it's at a more regional level with some trickling down to the actual troops.


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Oh, I agree - I feel better about the amount that the Boy Scouts get vs. what the Girl Scouts get. It was just funny when they told me the price and then my mouth hit the floor. LOL

But, I'm a good doobie. I bought one last week and then this week, there were two more Scouts out at the Acme and I bought from them, too. I'm done now, though, so don't send your kids to my house.


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Posted: 10/4/2010 2:29:52 PM

And it's a million dollars.


LOL! So true!

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Posted: 10/4/2010 2:56:21 PM
DS is finding it very hard to sell this year....

got any tricks to share?


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Posted: 10/4/2010 3:42:56 PM
Ds is an Eagle Scout, so I can't resist buying Boy Scout popcorn. I buy it from the Cub Scout next door and the scouts in front of the grocery store. I just can't say no to them!

I was amused last fall when I found out that Ds (who is in college) bought popcorn from the scouts in front of the grocery store in his college town. He said he remembered what that it was like to have so many people turn you down at a "show and sell", so even though he was a poor college student, he bought a can of over-priced caramel corn

I can't say no to a scout in uniform, but I don't buy from parents who sell for their kids.


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Posted: 10/4/2010 3:49:41 PM
Crazy expensive. Sorry, just too expensive. I might buy if the price was anywhere in line.

On Sat I was with a friend when she paid $20 for a bag that would be half that at Harry and David which is already over priced.


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Posted: 10/4/2010 3:57:06 PM

Oh, I agree - I feel better about the amount that the Boy Scouts get vs. what the Girl Scouts get. It was just funny when they told me the price and then my mouth hit the floor. LO


I used to feel that way, until I went several camps in our area. I have been to 3 Girls scout camps and 4 boyscout camps. There is a huge difference in facilities between the Girl scout camps and the boy scout camps around here, you can see where the council has spent the money. While the girls may only get 85cents per box until they are in high school the council does keep a larger chunk than the boy scout council. It shows when you visit the facilities. Also the cookies, while over inflated in price, I dont think they are as over inflated as the popcorn is.


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Posted: 10/4/2010 3:58:09 PM
Girl Scout mom here...our troop gets .70 or 18% of every box of Girl Scout Cookies sold. Good for the Boy Scouts for getting 30% of each item. Very little of the GS money goes back to the bakers, most of it goes to our local council, state and national offices.

BS popcorn is pricey. I generally only buy $20 worth...which this year was one bag of light butter toffee popcorn. I keep laughing at the bag though, the color and design is similar to a bag of doggie treats we buy...I keep thinking it's a bag of dog biscuits sitting on my counter.


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When I was a Girl Scout, we traveled to one of the four world centers (after busting our butts to fundraise), so I definitely understand the importance of fundraising for scouts... but I don't agree that we had inferior camps. Camp Nocatee (in Florida) rocked!

If curious, the world center we attended was in Adelboden, Switzerland and is called Our Chalet.


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Posted: 10/4/2010 4:08:51 PM
I think of BS popcorn as a donation to Scouts, with popcorn as a thank you gift.



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Lol, I have to shamelessly brag if I can (and share some hints). My 10 yo ds is a 2nd year Webelo and is consistently the top seller in his pack. He sends out "pre-popcorn sale" postcards with his pic--in uniform, holding a big can of popcorn-- on them about 3 weeks before popcorn. Then he goes door to door (with the strictest of adult supervision, of course). If someone isn't home, he leaves a doorhanger (again with his pic on it) and a phone number to the "popcorn hotline", which is a prepaid cell phone he bought with his own money and the number is on the doorhanger. After about two hours per night of selling, he comes home and spends about another 45 minutes going through phone call orders. He pays for all the printing etc with his own money that he earns throughout the year. He even keeps a spreadsheet! I have to brag about his motivation and entreprenureal spirit...it's really funny. But the little ladies keep his picture close buy and if other little boys come by, they try to match the picture to the kid at the door, and say "nope, you're not the little boy I buy from each year." Popcorn season drives me NUTS!!!! It's all we do for about two straight months!!!!!! But my little guy said he works so hard at it so he can get the scholarship so I don't have to work two jobs to send him to college....

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Posted: 10/4/2010 8:05:57 PM
Scrappyrho - WOW! Your DS is impressive!!

This is our first year with Beavers and our first exposure to popcorn really .... Holy batman - this stuff is so expensive!! I think here in Canada our cheapest bag is $18, and that's just the microwave stuff!! Not quite sure how we're going to sell anything

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Posted: 10/4/2010 8:37:49 PM
when ds was in scouts, the cub scout troop funded all the awards and activities for the pack for the year off their popcorn sales. I think at least half of every tin or box went to the pack, some went to the local council, and some to the popcorn company.

it was impressive the amount of money that they made each year. and as a parent it was nice not being nickeled and dimed for pack activities all the time.

I love their caramel corn - need to be on the lookout for my neighborhood cub scout!

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Posted: 10/4/2010 8:54:43 PM
I just ordered $50 worth of boy scout popcorn- it is pretty pricey. I have daughters, and they've all sold girl scout cookies, and I still have girl scout cookies in the pantry from last year. I assure you that the boy scout popcorn couldn't last that long in our house - it is soooo much better than girl scout cookies. I'm not sure how much each individual boy scout den gets from the sale of popcorn, but my D's girl scout troop gets less than 20% of the $4 price of a box of cookies, and that's without incentives to the girls. However, that's all the money the troop has, so I buy the cookies.

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Posted: 10/4/2010 9:16:58 PM
This year seems tougher to sell. One reason is because the prices stayed the same, but the expensive stuff no longer comes in tins. Last year we bought the $50 tin of chocolate lovers popcorn. Even though I didn't really need the tin, it is hard to justify spending the same amount on popcorn in a plastic bag.

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It seems much tougher to sell this year but I have to say that for the most part it pays for the den's activities. Some kids and parents are really dedicated and spend several days a week selling at site sales - we have done 2 and only sold $140 - so my son won't be selling nearly as much as last year but has worked much harder at it. Wish he could do more site sales but we are just soo busy this time of year. I also like that they give the scouts some of the money in an account if they sell enough to pay for scout events, uniforms, dues, etc it was nice last year to be able to use that money for things he needed. This year it loosk like it will be us buying the things directly.

I do like that so much more money actually goes to the local packs vs going so someone else makes the money like girl scouts. I do wish we had some cheaper items like maybe a 5 pack of the microwave popcorn vs the 18 count. I do love their popcorn though LOL. We don't plan to buy as much this year either - honestly we still had some left from last year and we are dieting so oh well. Thought about it for gifts but the relatives have already bought some to so ... I really think that scouts are great oportunities for kids and should be encouraged.


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Posted: 10/5/2010 8:28:57 AM
Both of my sons are scouts and this is their first year in a new pack where they are selling popcorn. They are having a very hard time selling, it looks like my husband and I will be the only ones to buy as even their grandparents and aunts and uncles won't buy.

Last week at one of our local Kroger stores a woman ran off with the money jar filled with about $150. She kept standing around like she was trying to decide what to buy and finally said, "I'll take this," and ran off with the money.

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Posted: 10/5/2010 8:45:17 AM

Scrappyrho - WOW! Your DS is impressive!!


I agree! He really puts the work in and deserves the top seller. Here, we just have parents bringing the order forms to work and leaving them in the common areas.







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Posted: 10/5/2010 8:45:58 AM
My boys are having trouble this year too. My eldest still has money in his account from last year, it's paid for every outside activity that they've done.

Dh and his coworkers all buy from each other's kids, they've started this year a pool of sorts for the military popcorn. Don't want to spend $25? You can spend $5 and it'll go towards a military one.

I think not having the tins is hurting them a bit, plus the economy.



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Posted: 10/5/2010 8:47:46 AM

Last week at one of our local Kroger stores a woman ran off with the money jar filled with about $150. She kept standing around like she was trying to decide what to buy and finally said, "I'll take this," and ran off with the money.




That is sooo awful.

My son just joined cub scouts and I am new to all this. I hope we can sell enough to offset some of the costs. I have two stores booked this month and I plan to let my ds do all the talking.

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My DS has had a tough time this year too. Last year we sold about half as the year before with the same amount of work, Many people just said no(and who can blame them). Right now we are at half of last year and we have 2 weeks left. It's just such an expensive product. And we are suffering due to the fact that many people apparently bought for the cans.

I can't tell you how many people complain about that 25$ donation to the military. I suggest to council every single year to at least match their lowest price point but no one wants to listen. I know that its the amount that makes it hard because when we do cookie share for the troops people fall over themselves to buy a $4 box of cookies (or 3) for the troops but $25 is a hard sell. I get that not all of the $25 goes to the military, I get that our military is totally worth it. (I buy every year) but it's hard to get others to fork over that kind of money in this economy. Our military donations get lower each year. And quite frankly it's DS's favorite product to sell because he feels it's a win win win for everyone. Support scouts, support the military and tax deductible but it's just such a hard sell.

although, one bright spot has been a few people who skipped last year actually sought out DS to buy this year as they said they missed it last year. And At least they brought back the chocolately caramel crunch which we didn't have last year but many of our customers love.

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I just spent 2 hours last Saturday with my ds (Webelos II) and his friend (Bear) and his mom outside a local bank. In 2 hours they sold $480 in popcorn and got $29.50 in donations. We made sure the boys did all the talking and I was so proud of them. The popcorn IS expensive though! I wish they had at least one lower price item like $5 or so. I think they would have done so much better because what they sold ranged from $10-$18. The $17 boxes if microwave popcorn IS a good deal though since there are 18 bags. But really who buys that much at once?

We had one older man buy a $10 bag of caramel corn and then gave it to the boys and told them to split it. I thought that was do nice.

I bought a bag if unpopped kernels for $7 only because I was going to buy some at the store anyway. I also bought a bag of caramel corn with nuts for $18. Well there are SUPPOSED to be nuts--I'm REALLY disappointed in this one! It is good, but not fabulous and the nuts are few and far between. Not a good deal IMO but I wanted to try it and support my ds. Can't say I'd buy it again though. Next time I'd probably get the microwave pack. The pack set up the times and places for the sales so I didn't mind. I HATE having to go door-to-door or ask friends and relatives to buy stuff.


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Posted: 10/5/2010 9:37:41 AM

2 hours they sold $480 in popcorn and got $29.50 in donations


That is amazing. Our high is $1200 in 8 hours. Last week we sold a measly $120 in 4 hours.

It is getting harder and harder to sell in front of stores. More and more say, no, company policy, no sales. Others say, sure try but first come first serve. One store double booked us last year.


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Posted: 10/5/2010 9:50:29 AM
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I wasn't saying that the girl scout had 'inferior' camps. (how could they with the olympic size pool, cabana and heated troop house with a fully equipped kitchen.) Sure you can rough it at girl scout camp but you would have to choose to. The boy scout troops and the boys get more of their sales profits than the council keeps, and their 'rustic' camps have little to show for it. The boy scout camps here are always begging for labour and donations, always need to be fixed. The girl scout councils keep a much larger share of the cookie profits and their camps have quite a lot to show for it.
Dont get me wrong I am not knocking the boyscout camps, DS loves em we have great fun, but they could use the extra money, there always seems to be so much to fix. Where as the girl scout camp is a darn spa vacation.

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how could they with the olympic size pool, cabana and heated troop house with a fully equipped kitchen.)


WOW. That was definitely NOT my experience. LOL


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Posted: 10/5/2010 9:55:11 AM

Where as the girl scout camp is a darn spa vacation.


You have clearly never stayed at Nocatee's campsite number 4. It is where I earned my camp name: Spiders. Because yikes, those things were the size of CDs!


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Posted: 10/5/2010 9:56:49 AM
I don't care that it's expensive, I buy it to support the boys. My son was in Cub Scouts and his dad was the Cubmaster. I sort of miss the days when my son dressed up in his uniform and looked so handsome. I called him a Cute Scout, which totally ticked him off, but it was true!!

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Posted: 10/5/2010 10:00:58 AM
My son is an Eagle and has sold his fair share of popcorn. While I agree that it is expensive it is so worth it. For our Troop the 30% profit goes right into each scouts account, they can pay for summer camp, Jamboree or anyother activity. They can even use it to buy a sleeping bag or camping equipment. Without Popcorn sales my son would not have been able to go to Jamboree, it just was not in the budgit.

I still do the popcorn for the troop even though my son is no longer active, for our first week sales the troop total was half what it was last year. Hopefully that picked up some this last week.

If anyone needs popcorn just yell, I have a van full and I mean FULL lol.

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My girls are ticked off at DH because he spent more money buying popcorn from the neighbor boy than on cookies from his own daughters.






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Posted: 10/5/2010 10:52:16 AM
Never in this lifetime would I pay $ 9 for popcorn, no matter how good it is...that's just crazy!! There's got to be less expensive things they can sell, or other things the can do, to raise money.



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Posted: 10/5/2010 10:56:49 AM
My DS is a Cub Scout, DH is an Assistant Den Leader (Wolves).

Boy Scout popcorn is a hard sell and we've gone around and around on this discussion with the pack committee and ourselves, but if you think of it as a *donation* and you're getting a little treat in return, it's a different perspective.

When DS approached his own grandparents they were "NO WAY am I paying $9 for popcorn" (one lives in Nebraska in the middle of popcornville), but they did decide to directly support DS and gave him $ towards his individual Scouting needs.


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Posted: 10/5/2010 12:25:22 PM
Growing up, I was in girl scouts and my brothers were in boy scouts. My mom was my troop leader and my brothers' den leader. When my daughter was in girl scouts, I was her troop leader.

I am giving you my history and background to illustrate that I am a HUGE supporter of scouting.

When my son was a second grader he joined scouts, and I was the den leader. I HATED the experience because of all of the fundraising.

In one year, our pack/den participated in the following fundraisers:

Popcorn sales

Christmas tree sales

Wreath sales

The Blue and Gold banquet -- where the Council asked each family to donate $150.00 and then passed out pepperoni sticks and candy bars for the boys to take home and sell.

Father-Son cake bake sale - where there was an auction to buy the cakes.

It was a year of fundraising hell and I was embarassed asking people to buy the popcorn because the prices are so ridiculous. $16.00 for a box of microwave popcorn!? That just feels like extortion.

We are no longer involved in scouting but the Wreath Sale was and continues to be my favorite fundraiser because it is an excellent product at a fair price. The scouts make a huge profit from the wreath sales. I purchase several each year. One for our home and several to have for hostess gifts when we attend holiday parties.






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Our troop doesn't even do popcorn because they can't sell it around here. We have to do other forms of fundraisers.


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It was a year of fundraising hell and I was embarassed asking people to buy the popcorn because the prices are so ridiculous. $16.00 for a box of microwave popcorn!? That just feels like extortion.
BUT there are 18 bags in the box!! That is less than $1 a bag. Definitely a good deal. Would someone normally buy 18 at once? No, but it IS a good deal and could be used for stocking stutters, etc. I just finished my bag of "gourmet" caramel corn last night (the one SUPPOSEDLY with nuts). I was SO bummed at the lack of nuts I'm wishing I spent the $18 on a box of microwave bags instead!!

I signed us up for 4 more hours this Saturday. There were only a few spots left, so I took two of them. Hopefully we will do good.


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Posted: 10/14/2010 6:17:36 AM
Can I ask you ladies how your troops do it? My son (now a Scout in Canada) gets a little brochure and is supposed to take orders, collect payment and then deliver it when it comes in a few weeks from now. It seems to us that he'd be able to sell more if he actually had the product with him when he was trying to sell it. I agreed that it's all quite overpriced but I think the microwave popcorn is the best value (and it's so good!) that I was thinking of just buying 10 or 20 boxes of the microwave popcorn and then letting him go door to door with that. What are other's experiences?

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Posted: 10/14/2010 6:42:09 AM
Interesting our Pack only participates in the Popcorn fundraiser, the pack gets 42% of the sales, the council gets 28% and 30% goes back to Trail-end.

This is the first year the pack did a Show & Sell, as the Kernel I decided the pack was going to try this selling approach and so far so good. This Sunday we sold $730 worth of product and received $157 in donations. The cheese popcorn set & microwave butter light were the most popular. We sold 30 caramel corn out of 60 bags & 6 boxes of Cheese out of 10.

We have about half of the original order and 2 more days of SnS, we set up outside a Publix for 6 hrs - scouts pick a 2 hr slot and will earn a percentage of the sales towards rewards.

Our council microwave prices are $18 for 18 & $20 for caramel with nuts. hrmmmm I like the cheaper prices....


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Loc: At the intersection of Hooterville and Stars Hollow

Posted: 10/14/2010 9:40:39 AM
My experience is that it is overpriced cra@ sold solely on the basis of "buy it for the boys" not because it is even remotely worth the money. I swear if you check out the packaging it appears to be the exact same popcorn sold in grocery stores for $2/10 packs or something. The name escapes me but it's "Pop something" (Not Pop Secret but one of the cheaper brands. Pop Warner or something?)

The Girl Scouts sell you a good cookie at a fair price. The Boy Scouts gouge people with the non-premium popcorn at premium prices.

They should be ashamed.

I am a proud scout mom who NEVER supports popcorn sales. Ever.




fredfreddy
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December 2003
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Loc: San Jose, CA

Posted: 10/14/2010 10:27:13 AM
We just finished show and sell and sold $3400 worth of popcorn but we also worked 36 hours in front of stores. It was harder this year. We sold twice more of the $10 bags than everything else combined.

The take orders are looking good. A lot of boys want the crossbow and mallow at the $600 level. I just hope they work better than last year's model.


Alana

it rhymes with banana

mom to a 21 yo dd, 14 yo ds, and 11 yo ds and a scrapper for 13 years
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