Why does soy have to be in EVERYTHING? (Vent)
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Rebelyelle
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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:12:29 PM
My son is allergic to cow's milk and soy. Cow's milk is fairly easy enough to get around, but soy is in freaking everything in some form or another - in rice milk, oatmeal, animal crackers (most crackers for that matter), pancake mix, even bread. It's very, very frustrating. As much as I would love to make all of his food from scratch, sometimes it's just not practical.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:21:20 PM
Have you tried goats milk? When my son was little he couldn't tolerate cows' milk and I couldn't feed him soy (can't stand the stuff).

He was able to take goats milk and he loved it.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:22:22 PM
check with your dr about soy lechiten. my bff's dh is allergic to soy and he can have soy lechiten



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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:24:44 PM
When I was diagnosed with a soy allergy in early 2001 I literally couldn't find anything to eat and continued on a rapid weight loss...yeah I finally felt better sort of but I wasn't eating anything!!It's when I really learned to cook and HAD to make things from scratch. NO fun at all! (((HUGS))) it's a difficult road.


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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:27:25 PM
It bugs me to no end.

I try to keep as much out of them as i can - but it is almost impossible.

We aren't dealing with an allergy thankfully, but i can see how hard it would be.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:31:30 PM

I literally couldn't find anything to eat and continued on a rapid weight loss.

DS is a skinny little thing! He's always been about 25th percentile for weight and 80-90th for height, but at his 15-month appointment he dropped to 10th percentile for weight (height remained the same) which concerned our doctor a little bit - she just wants him to put on a little weight. But, it's hard when he can only eat fruits, vegetables, and pasta.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 12:51:22 PM
My aunt is allergic to soy and I never realized how much they put it in until I started hanging out with her more and looking at labels. She can only chew one certain kind of gum, because it's even in gum. She got a rash on her hand after writing a few checks. Came to found out they put soy in the ink they printed them with. It is in everything!



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Posted: 3/31/2011 1:08:18 PM
I call it the new HFCS.....they put in absolutely everything, and I bet that some day, they'll be marketing products that don't have it in them because people will be trying to get anything at all without it.

There's no such thing as moderation when it comes to processed foods and cheap in gredients, I guess.

They find an ingredient that works well for them and it goes in *everything*.



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Posted: 3/31/2011 2:03:02 PM
I find milk products are also in almost everything. My daughter had to go off of it completely when she was little as she kept reacting to it, so we stopped the dairy for everyone and it was near impossible to find stuff without casein or some other dairy derivative in it.

It's like HFCS, although it's becoming much easier these days. HFCS is in *everything*. I mean, really? Whole wheat bread needs it?

Silver lining is that after a year of ZERO dairy, I challenged her and she was fine and had outgrown the sensitivity.


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Posted: 3/31/2011 3:18:28 PM
I was completely unamused when I was casually reading the label on my box of Celestial Seasonings while waiting for my tea to brew and saw that it has a soy additive in it now.

WTF?

You can't assume anything with packaged food anymore, you have to read the labels. Even things where adding soy makes absolutely no damn sense (like tea) can still have soy.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 3:24:49 PM
My dd and I are both allergic to soy. It's HARD! But there are a lot of alternatives if you look hard enough. If you have a Trader Joe's or a Whole Foods especially (I have neither, but we used to live in an area that did).

BTW: Rice Dream brand rice milk does not have soy ingredients. Here is the ingredient list: Rice Dream That's what we drink since the whole family has dairy issues/intolerance. Both my dd and I have no issues with it.


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Posted: 3/31/2011 3:34:24 PM
I can sympathize. While my little one is allergic per se, he had a sensitivity to both milk and soy. We finally saw a GI doc who pulled us off both. He's done remarkably well on it, but you're right... it's in EVERYTHING. If it's not both dairy and soy it's one or the other.

Luckily, we're going to try putting him back on milk slowly to see if it works so I don't think we'll have to deal with this forever. All that being said, a friend recently mentioned the goat's milk to us and it's been a GOD SEND! It's ridiculously expensive ($16 a gallon), but the baby LOVES his milk and to finally find something to get some protein in him has been great. The GI doc had mentioned it as well shortly after the friend did.

Just look at your labels (Duh! Didn't mean to be so obvious). I found the Honey Maid brand of graham crackers didn't have either (which is great because that way I could get peanut butter into him)... Mrs Pauls fishsticks were OK and our kroger brand of chicken nuggets were OK too. I also made several large batches of chicken nuggets homemade and froze them... Also.. McDonald's chicken nuggets are OK (but not the french fries... but burger king's french fries are... ) I made a big batch of pancakes using rice milk (and later goat's milk once I found out he could have it) and froze them... Also, there's a brand of "butter" that has neither soy nor dairy. If you're interested I can run downstairs and check on the name... I don't remember offhand. We found some great little chocolate chip cookies he could have. I also found several cereals that were OK. Oh! I also found goat's milk yogurt at Whole Foods yesterday that DS loved... good thing, it was $8 for a big container.

Unfortunately, many of the "OK" foods are expensive/organic. I've found that it's fairly easy to get around if you just cook fresh at home where you can control the ingredients.

Good luck. It's really a pain the tush. I know I've given you a lot of convenience-types of foods, and I don't feed them to DS often, but every now and again you have to choose convenience. The GI doc did tell me that most children "grow out" of the allergy, so maybe there's some hope you won't have to do this forever..

Sorry for the novel... really though... GOAT'S MILK! Expensive but such a good protein source. I was kind of hoping to find a local source for it cheaper, but then I kind of worried about the pasteurization issue.

Please feel free to peamail me if you think I can offer anymore suggestions.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 3:45:57 PM
i feel your pain. my DD had severe soy/dairy intolerance when an infant. my breastfeeding days came to an end b/c i was sooo overwhelmed...and hungry! i have done a lot of research since b/c we are expecting again and there is a very good chance baby #2 will have the same issues and i want to breastfeed this time. i have some links bookmarked if you are interested, but they are mostly recipes i have found that the organic, esp. gluten free sections of my grocery store are where i will spend a lot of money. if you have a whole foods store near you, definitely check there! it is crazy that breads even have soy...its just a filler!

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Posted: 3/31/2011 3:58:57 PM
I understand - I'm not allergic to soy but have to avoid it because of the estrogens.

If you don't already have a copy, I highly recommend the Gluten/Casein/Soy Free Grocery Shopping Guide. It's small enough to put in your purse when you go to the store, and makes it easier to find soy free products.

Earth Balance Spread has a dairy-free, soy-free version you can use in place of butter or margarine, both for table use and cooking.

I buy the Turtle Mountain So Delicious brand of coconut milk yogurt and frozen treats because it is completely dairy and soy free and my kids love it. Coconut milk yogurt is also fairly easy to make at home. The So Delicious unsweetened coconut milk is also good for baking or drinking.

Daiya vegan cheese is dairy, soy and gluten free, and it melts just like real cheese, so you can use it for sandwiches or cooking.

Amy's has a macaroni and cheese that is gluten, dairy and soy free, and tastes like the real thing.


You might have better luck shopping online or in a whole / naturals foods store that has an "allergy" section. There are a number of good dairy and soy free alternatives available, but sometimes they are hard to find in smaller stores.

Edited to add: Forgot to mention that almost all the Breads from Anna mixes are dairy and soy free, and you can generally find them at Whole Foods. I like to keep some of the pancake and muffin mixes available for days when I don't have time to cook from scratch.


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Posted: 3/31/2011 4:03:02 PM
Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

We actually chose to go with Almond Milk for his milk source, with an ounce or two of coconut milk added for the saturated fat. Our local Trader Joe's carries goat milk, and we started on that, but as many said it's ridiculously expensive (and after weaning him off Nutramigen, we were really excited to stop spending $200/month on formula!). The Almond/Coconut combo has worked very well. When I make anything requiring milk, I always the almond milk so he can have some too.

I do cook from scratch most night, but it's traveling that kills us - I like to (obviously) have snacks and mini-meals on hand wherever we go, but it gets harder and harder b/c everything convenient has some type of soy or dairy derivative.

This came up today because we ran out of his "safe" bread, which I get from Trader Joe's across town. I stopped at the Safeway around the corner and couldn't find a single loaf of bread that didn't have soy in it. It's just ridiculous.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 4:05:14 PM
marycain, Thank you! I will definitely check out that guide. And everything you listed I'm sure I can probably find at the local Whole Foods. I have been looking and looking for goat's milk yogurt, but didn't consider coconut milk yogurt. I'm going to look tomorrow

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Posted: 3/31/2011 4:39:14 PM

I like to (obviously) have snacks and mini-meals on hand wherever we go, but it gets harder and harder b/c everything convenient has some type of soy or dairy derivative.


If you have a store that carries the Enjoy Life food products, they are made without any of the most common food allergens, so they are both soy and dairy free. They are pretty widely available; our area Kroger carries them. I keep some of the bagels, snack bars and graham crackers available for a school friend of my son's who has multiple food allergies, so I always have something safe available for him for a treat. I know you don't want to feed your son too many snack type foods, but at least it would be something safe you could take with you easily.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 7:57:45 PM
My DS was diagnosed with milk, soy, peanut, corn and egg allergies back in the fall. It is very hard! The closest Whole foods is about 100 miles away and I don't know if there's a Trader Joe's in my state at all. We make our own bread most of the time. I have found a few alternatives like pop tarts and cream soups and those we have actually found through good deals at Amazon; you just have to buy in bulk.

Eating out is just about impossible. It's quite frustrating how they put soy in everything now. I have noticed that Wal-Mart brand foods all have soy, but a lot of Kroger store brands will not.

After dealing with this for 6 months it is getting easier. We just got back from a little family trip. We pretty much bring DS his own food when we're going to be away. I like to order something for him though because I try so hard not to single him out with his allergies; I want him to feel normal but at even 2 years old he already knows he's different when it comes to food.

Contact the restaurants in your area and see if they will send you allergy information. I always check when we get to the restaurant but I like to have an idea of what he can/cannot eat before we get there. Some won't give you any information and those we just do not visit.

Also, remember to check products often as something that is soy-free today might not be next week unfortunately.

If you haven't been there yet, there's a website with lots of information; www.kidswithfoodallergies.org

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or want to know about specific brands.


Jennifer


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Posted: 3/31/2011 8:30:09 PM

Contact the restaurants in your area and see if they will send you allergy information. I always check when we get to the restaurant but I like to have an idea of what he can/cannot eat before we get there. Some won't give you any information and those we just do not visit.



Many chain restaurants have allergen information online on their websites.

Project Allergy is a great resource for restaurant, hotel and airline allergy information.

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Posted: 3/31/2011 8:37:12 PM
I feel ya!! i can not have soy, cow dairy, corn, potato or gluten, that leaves me with.......NOT MUCH

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Posted: 4/1/2011 7:26:45 PM
You've gotta watch Food, Inc. on Netflix! Corn and soy is in everything!

Also, there is an app for smart phones that can help you with shopping ..I think you just scan the barcode.

Good luck! My teens are in mutiny over my ban of HFCS!




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