My sister just called, she's taking my daddy to ER. his blood sugar is 623!

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Posted: 8/31/2012 12:46:53 PM
I'm so sick of him not taking care of himself. He was diagnosed with diabetes about a year ago. He still eats horrible. He only will eat a HUGE lunch then a big huge bowl of cereal at night. He buys little debbies and eats junk like that.

I guess all week his balance and vision has been off he felt very bad this AM so he took his sugar. He got 600 so he called his doctor (who I do not like, he goes to him b/c he's a Christian and he prays with him) went to an appointment and it was 623, vision still bad and balance and speech wasn't right. They called the ambulance. My sister is with him, my mom is in Kentucky visiting family.

My dad takes Metformin, he should be taking it 4 times daily, however he's only taking 3 pills and he takes all 3 in the AM before he even eats. Then none the rest of the day.

I'm so worried and frustrated. Why does he refuse to care for himself. I hope this scares him enough to make him stop all of this and get his health on track. I"m a total daddy's girl and I would be lost without him. I"m so worried.

Any prayers or PT appreciated.



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Posted: 8/31/2012 12:57:13 PM
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Posted: 8/31/2012 1:22:38 PM
I hope he is ok!

that said, I would be really, really upset with him as well. I truly dont understand why people with such serious health issues dont do the basic steps to take care of themselves. it's not like he "cheat" here and there-he's not doing much of anything at all to manage his condition



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Posted: 8/31/2012 1:28:35 PM
(((HUGS))) My mom and brother both died from diabetic complications. It took a possible prediabetes scare (I don't have it) for me to start eating right and exercising. Hope your dad turns around too.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 1:32:09 PM
I know how you feel. My dad had uncontrolled diabetes. He ate whatever he wanted without regard to his health. Sadly, he passed away almost 11 years ago. I'm hoping this doesn't happen to your dad. I said a prayer for him. Keep us updated on his condition if you can.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:00:21 PM
I am so very sorry.



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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:13:10 PM
Wow, I can't believe 350 views and only 3 comments?

Anyway, I hope he's okay hon. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to see your pops do this to himself. Hopefully when he sees how distressed and pained you are, that he makes some changes!


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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:18:33 PM
I had a grandmother with diabetes and she would eat sweets and then just compensate by taking more insulin. She just could not adjust and take care of herself.

I'm not going to judge though because I honestly do not think I could adjust either. It has to be SO hard. Especially if diagnosted as an adult.

I hope that things get under control and someone can help your dad understand how important it is....he needs to be around for a long long time.



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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:21:41 PM

I'm sorry. I can't even imagine how scary this must be for you.

I hope that this scares him enough to get him to take better care of himself and follow his doctor's advice on taking care of himself.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:23:04 PM
Sorry to hear that about your dad. Hope he gets better soon.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:33:11 PM
Thanks peas, I haven't heard anything else yet. I am so upset b/c I have talked to him that it's very important! I mean this is nothing to deal with lightly.



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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:37:29 PM
You think it's scary for you...try being the person with the disease.

Have you told him how lost you would be without him? Or maybe written it down?






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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:43:22 PM
Similar story about my brother. he was having blurry vision and extreme thirst. Went to the dr. and his blood sugar was 450! They took him to the hospital immediately by ambulance. He also found out that his cholesterol was over 400. He has changed his diet and has lost 40 lbs. He is almost off insulin. It was very scary.

Maybe this will be the wake up call for your father. I wish you the best.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:51:31 PM
I don't get the calling the ambulance thing. Why not just drive him over? And frankly, what is the hospital going to do if he is not taking care of himself!

People like this really vex me! He is wasting resources and refusing to care for himself properly and others are stuck pay a portion of the price.



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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:51:33 PM
Oh my gosh! How scary! I sure hope he gets to feeling better and starts taking care of himself!

My dad has been a type 1 diabetic for almost 42 years now and is legally blind. He frustrates me too because I don't think he takes care of himself like he should. He's so stubborn sometimes!

Again, hope your dad gets better soon!

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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:53:07 PM
Keeping positive thoughts for the best possible outcome!


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Posted: 8/31/2012 3:22:11 PM
I am so sorry to hear this. My sweet MIL, who I loved dearly, just couldn't make the changes necessary to save her life, she fought them tooth and nail.... It saddens me so much that she couldn't give up certain foods....like she chose to hold on to them instead of my DH, me, our children, etc.

You can't make your dad do it. Only he can. But, you can tell him....you can tell him how much it hurts you, scares you, etc that he will DIE because he loved a Little Debbie more.... I truly wish I had pleaded with my MIL a bit more....challenged her to fight instead of give in. It was a horrible thing to watch...she suffered terribly (amputation of leg, infection, round the clock nursing home) but WE suffered too and still do.

DH was diagnosed with diabetes earlier this year and I can honestly say he is completely opposite of her. He very swiftly embraced the changes that needed to be met and just.did.it. Does he cheat now and then, sure, but he loves us enough to fight to be here....

Please convey your deep love and sorrow at the thought of his passing....maybe he will listen....


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Posted: 8/31/2012 3:27:56 PM
My aunt is the same way. She tells herself that she eats only vegetables and protein. She tells me that she doesn't understand why she is so heavy and has such high blood sugar levels. Every single time I am at her house she has sweets in her house. She just lies to herself. It is so sad.

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Posted: 8/31/2012 3:38:47 PM
I hope he's okay...how scary for you and your family. Diabetes runs rampant in our family. It's a very difficult disease to control.

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Posted: 8/31/2012 3:42:50 PM
praying for your dad, and you..
hopefully he will start taking better
care of himself..

God Bless

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Posted: 8/31/2012 3:59:20 PM

frankly, what is the hospital going to do if he is not taking care of himself!

When you go to the ER with high blood sugar, they will give you IV fluids because at that level most people are dehydrated. Being dehydrated worsens the condition.

They will test for infection and possibly ketoacidosis.


I always say it's easy to hate on the diabetic from the cheap seats.






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Posted: 8/31/2012 4:06:47 PM
This breaks my heart also. I lost my mom about a year and a half ago to diabetic complications. And my brother 2.5 years ago when he went into a diabetic coma. I really hope this is the wake up call your father needs. Prayers to you.

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Posted: 8/31/2012 4:07:15 PM
Prayers to you for your dad. I don't know how old he is, but my DH66 has had diabetes for years. He, too, used to take his Metformin all at once, and he wasn't too careful with his diet. After I got ahold of him, he is now off all of his diabetes meds and his blood sugar has been in check for well over a year. This all happened because I kept a tigheter reign on his diet and meds, plus he lost 65 lbs. Hopefully your dad could turn it around after this scare!

BTW, DH's mom passed away from diabetes complications, and his brother has recently lost toes, and then eventually both his legs, from diabetes. It's a serious illness.









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Posted: 8/31/2012 5:24:15 PM

I always say it's easy to hate on the diabetic from the cheap seats.
I have a son with Type 1 so trust me, I am in box seats, not cheap ones, where this is concerned.




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Posted: 8/31/2012 5:29:54 PM
I am so sorry. Living with diabetes sucks. It is really hard for some people to make the changes needed to control the disease, especially since the complications take time to develop, and in the early stages are painless. People think that they are getting away with something.

Prayers said for your dad.





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Posted: 8/31/2012 5:32:22 PM
I'm so sorry, that is really tough to watch.



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Posted: 8/31/2012 11:17:56 PM
Good thoughts for him to get himself better and realize he needs to take care of himself. I'm a daddy's girl too, and the thought of losing him makes me sick inside I hope you hear good news soon.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 11:32:41 PM
That is scary. My diabetic father, who takes his meds regularly, is having eye surgery on Tuesday. I can't imagine the fear you have, knowing your father isn't compliant. Best of luck.

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Posted: 8/31/2012 11:45:22 PM
WOW it sounds like he should be on insulin rather than metformin.

Maybe he needs to see the reality of not looking after himself. You should see if he can talk to someone during their dialysis treatment, or talk to someone who's just had their legs amputated.

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Posted: 9/1/2012 12:01:01 AM
Shih tzu mommy - no where do she say her sister drove him. Geeze. I read it to mean he drove himself, which if that's true thank god he didn't hurt himself or anyone else.
Again, if that's the case I'd say it's a fine use of resources.
Geeze, box seats must have limited view.

Hope your dad and you get the the information, help you need, and peace of mind this will be the last time you have to go through this.


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Posted: 9/1/2012 12:08:57 AM
I'm so sorry. My mother is the same way so I know what you are going through.

I think for me the thing that is the hardest to deal with is that they would rather have Little Debbies (for my mom it's Svenhard's pastries) then be around and healthy for their families. It's very hurtful to watch her slowly kill herself. She has only one kidney and now it is slowly failing. She would have 400-500 on a regular basis and not follow the insulin regiment that she was given.

After years and years of fighting with my mother about her health, I finally had to come to the realization that she has to want to live and do it for herself. Nothing I can say (not even don't you want to be around for your granddaughter's wedding someday) will change anything. I think it's very selfish and hurtful to do that to your family, with no regard of how their actions affect everyone.

I hope this is a wake up call for your father, and he will do what he needs to do to get healthy. My thoughts are with you.




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Posted: 9/1/2012 12:24:38 AM
I pea glitter, I will keep your father and you in my prayers. I know how hard it is to be the child of a parent with diabetes...who is not controlling it.

My 74 year old Mom has been type 2 diabetic for many years. Uncontrolled because she seems to either be incapable of understanding what she needs to eat and not eat, or she just flat refuses to comply and acts like she doesn't understand.

4 years ago, she had some eye complications and I told her she could no longer drive. She resents me for it, but she hasn't driven. Today, I was taking her to a dr. appt. at 11:00 and as soon as she got into the car she started popping life savers in her mouth because she felt like her blood sugar was dropping. I asked what she'd had for breakfast and she replied "the usual".

The usual consists of 3-6 of those Lance Peanut Butter crackers in the package...you know, the neon orange crackers. She eats them every morning. Last time we were at the Endocrinologists office he chewed her up because her A1C levels "told" him that she wasn't eating right and that she needs to eat protein in the morning. She REFUSES to eat anything other than those crackers. So, her blood sugar spikes from the carbs, then drops by 11:00 am every day. She cannot understand (or wont) why.

So, today, as she is scarfing down life savers, I said "Mom, don't you remember how we had a discussion about you needing to eat more protein in the morning and less carbs?" And she said "Yes, but I'm not gonna do it. I won't eat eggs or oatmeal. Period."

Her blood sugar is a roller coaster between 40 & 350 all the time. Her Endo Dr. just bitches at her trying to get her to conform to his "normal". I have to take her to the grocery store every week and I see what she buys so I know what crap she eats. I try to cook for her, but what I cook usually sits in the freezer until it's trash. She thinks that if a product says "no sugar added" it's good for her. Today, she found a Key Lime Pie mix in the gluten free section that said "sugar free" so she practically danced in the aisle and bought two graham cracker crusts for the pies she's going to make. And eat in one sitting probably.

She never buys apples, she only buys strawberries and eats them with "fat free" cool whip. She buys at least two cartons of that a week. And two cartons of "no sugar added" ice cream a week. And I could go on and on and on.

Diabetes is a HORRIBLE disease. Because it is brought upon a person who has no self control in the first place. (I'm referring to type 2). And now, with diabetes, the person is supposed to have self control?

It is frustrating to watch her eat herself to death. And that is what she's doing.

I'm sorry to unload here, but I sure understand you, I pea glitter! I think the most I've ever known my mom's blood sugar was 520. I hope your dad gets better soon.

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Posted: 9/1/2012 12:32:01 AM
Wow Knotlazy, everything you have said is my mother to a tee, especially...




Uncontrolled because she seems to either be incapable of understanding what she needs to eat and not eat, or she just flat refuses to comply and acts like she doesn't understand.






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Posted: 9/1/2012 1:36:34 AM
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frankly, what is the hospital going to do if he is not taking care of himself!



When you go to the ER with high blood sugar, they will give you IV fluids because at that level most people are dehydrated. Being dehydrated worsens the condition. They will test for infection and possibly ketoacidosis.

I always say it's easy to hate on the diabetic from the cheap seats.



Thanks. Today, I really needed to hear that.









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Posted: 9/1/2012 7:11:49 AM
I'm so sorry, I hope he gets better soon and tries harder to watch his diet and take his metformin correctly. He may end up on insulin in which case he will really have to be careful to correctly dose it. Perhaps he would benefit from a visit to a dietician as a reminder of how to count his carbs and stuff. Check to see if your hospital has a diabetic class that he could take it may help him take better care of himself


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Posted: 9/1/2012 7:21:25 AM


I'm sorry; you are understandably terrified. This exact thing happened to my mother, and I still remember how frightened we all were.

I hope that the hospital can get him stabilized soon.


And really, some of the comments on this thread are .

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Posted: 9/1/2012 7:26:49 AM
I have a sister-in-law who is the same way - and that's after losing her mother to complications from diabetes. She actually seems to think she does a good job with diet and eating, but she is not. She's been to a dietician, she works in a doctor's office (she's an LPN), she saw her mother not take her meds or eat right, but nothing yet seems to help her really get it.

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Posted: 9/1/2012 9:03:48 AM

I don't get the calling the ambulance thing.


That's because a blood sugar that high can be fatal. He was only a very short time away from seizures and/or coma with a blood sugar that high. I would have said go straight to the ER with a blood sugar at home that high!

Someone who is that non-compliant with diet should probably be on insulin, but that's another story. My dad's been noncompliant to varying degrees over the years. It is very frustrating. Finally, they put him on insulin so he can manage his episodes of poor eating.



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Posted: 9/1/2012 1:22:15 PM
I really hope that they stabalize your father and that he is able to adjust to a proper diet.

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Posted: 9/1/2012 1:32:25 PM
Sadly I watched my sister do the same thing except she was diagnosed in her early twenties. She never ate what she was supposed to and a few years ago she decided to stop taking her insulin. She avoided drs at all costs. Being an RN it was very difficult to watch but honestly from the 15 years of working as a critical care nurse I've learned that you cant change people. It's the same for the drug addicts and alcoholics. You can't force them into treatment. It's a very sad reality. Either you dad will comply or he won't. It's as simple as that.

I've always told my patients that are newly diagnosed with diabetes that it requires a complete lifestyle change. It's not easy but it can be done.

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Posted: 9/1/2012 1:50:20 PM
My Dad used to do the same thing, I sat him down and told him I love you
please take care of yourself. He told me

" I never got enough to eat as a kid, ( he had 11 brothers and sisters ) I worked my ass to the bone so that you and your brothers never went hungry. I'm eating what I want when I want."

What do you say to that you know? He was by then getting unable to take care of himself and his wife couldn't take care of him so we moved them to our house ( at the time ) I started making good choices for him and his BS went down drastically, then his wife started buying him snacks and hiding them from me. So his BS went back up it took me 2 freakin' weeks to figure out what she was doing! I swear I think she was trying to kill him.

Anyhow if you can go through his food and get rid of the really bad choices and replace them with good choices. That might help.

I'm sorry I feel for you, I was a Daddy's girl too.


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Posted: 9/2/2012 7:34:11 PM
I'm sorry to hear about this. I didn't respond sooner because my dad just died.

I truly hope your dad is doing better right now. My dad didn't take very good care of himself either, and I had to accept that he would die because of his choices. And he did.

I am praying for you and your family. (and I don't usually say stuff like that...) I hope that your father decides to take better care of himself, but barring that, I hope that you are able to find some sort of peace within yourself that you can't change him.

Good luck.


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Posted: 9/2/2012 7:46:53 PM
Sending you some ((HUGS)) as you deal with this. I hope the doctors get him stabilized and that he takes what the doctors tell him to heart.

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Posted: 9/2/2012 8:16:11 PM
I hope your dad is okay! That is a scary high bs number. I agree with a couple of the other pp that said Metformin is just not enough for your dad. With numbers that high he should be on insulin. How do you think he could handle that? The prospect of losing a parent is terrifying. Maybe you should do what someone else suggested and write him a heartfelt letter explaining just why you need your dad around. Maybe that would get to him if he realizes his eating poorly just doesn't affect him.




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Posted: 9/3/2012 9:47:18 AM
Type 1 Diabetic and RN here. Metformin is definitely not enough. He needs insulin and maybe even 3 kinds. A mid acting, a slow acting and a fast acting.
600 plus is a scary sugar, and when a patient is showing severe signs, trouble speaking, unconcious etc you need to call an ambulance if you cannot get them to a hospital quicker. It is nothing to mess around with. We have many walk in our doors higher than 600 daily that just "feel bad" but some people at lower sugars are unresponsive, it varies.
I hope your Dad gets the care he needs and understands the severity of his actions from not taking care of himself.


*~Maddie~*

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Posted: 9/3/2012 8:56:28 PM
I hope your dad's doing better.

I am a diabetic and truly some of your comments are mean and hateful. I attempt to eat correctly and "try" to watch my carbs but it is hard especially since I travel for my job. I keep sugarfree hard candy in my purse to suck on when others are eating a yummy looking dessert. For me it is not easy nor as simple as just eating right. A weight loss diet is a choice, the diabetic diet is something forced upon you. Some make the changes easily, for others it's a lot harder.

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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:17:20 AM
Sorry about that. Some people don't like the restrictions.

All during last December, my husband was on a bender and very angry.

He kept drinking soft drinks and everytime I checked his blood sugar, it was maxed out on the tester.

He would not agree to let me give him insulin either; he just kept glaring at me and drinking more soda.

Six months later, he starts to get gangrene in a couple of toes. He's lost part of a foot and has two fingers that may be lost; so he's changed his tune now. For the first time ever, his long term blood work is looking good.

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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:40:39 AM
I hope he is ok. We have had inmates go way over that and the nurses act like it no big deal when we call until I tell them I'm callim their supervisors and that the inmates can sue. I've seen them come abback and be find from 800+ on the other end we had 2 bring a few back that were as love as 7 and 10 13 and tottally seizing. Blood sugar is nothing to mess with.





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