Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men!
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Posted: 12/25/2012 2:27:09 AM
It is the music of a people who will not be slaves again!

Can you tell I just got home from a 10pm showing of Les Mis?!!!



Oh I loved it.

And I love Russell Crowe. I have whole pinterest board I started for him. I loooove him so much I've seen obscure Australian crap he was in decades ago, and it was crap.

But oh Russell. What did you do, agreeing to do this role? I know you have a rock band and you can carry a tune but ohhhhh I cringed. Was it too high for you? The wrong key for you? Both at the same time maybe. Jesus wept.

Other than that... I cried and cried like I was supposed to. I see an Oscar nod to Anne Hathaway solely for her performance of I Dreamed a Dream. It was nothing at all like I have ever heard it before. She sure didnt do it like Susan Boyle did it Amazing.

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Posted: 12/25/2012 2:54:01 AM
I'm going to take my dad to see it Christmas Day, which is today, good grief! Glad you loved it!


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Posted: 12/25/2012 3:20:13 AM
Me too! I was so disappointed by RENT as a movie so I was worried!


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:44:26 AM
We're going to go see it this morning after the paper ripping ceremony. Read reviews that it is really well done, but Crowe's performance is a little weak. No matter - great show, story, music.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:51:54 AM
Were going tonight, 7 pm. Can't wait!!!


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:52:12 AM
Lol I've been singing this for days now. I cannot wait to see it, but with a newborn I'm not sure how soon we'll get there. I'd love to see it on the big screen so I'm going to make it happen!!


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Posted: 12/25/2012 6:54:10 AM
Three and a half hours to go! Can't wait.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 7:22:44 AM
I think we're going to see it tonight. Can't wait!



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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:48:47 AM

We're going to go see it this morning after the paper ripping ceremony.



We also have our cinnamon roll-eating and omelet-making ceremonies to get through before we go see it.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:50:04 AM
I want to go today SO badly...but we have to go to the in-laws instead! Maybe I can convince DH for a late showing tonight, but definitely tomorrow.



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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:53:28 AM
A friend and I are going on Thursday evening... Can't wait!

Jesus wept.

This made me LOL

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Posted: 12/25/2012 9:20:12 AM
Thanks for the early review!
We may get to see it soon, hopefully.

I love HUGH! so that should be great.

"One day more" ..or something like that!

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Posted: 12/25/2012 10:21:56 AM
I want to go!

I've read the reviews and, while my kids love the music, I think the movie is too much for my six-year-old. If you have seen it, is it something that is not too much for a ten-year-old? I've seen the stage show a zillion times and would take her to that, but do not know if the movie is too graphic. She saw and was fine with the Hunger Games, FWIW.

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Posted: 12/25/2012 10:34:10 AM

Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men!


No. They couldn't be bothered to put it on the "highlights" CD.

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Posted: 12/25/2012 10:41:37 AM

No. They couldn't be bothered to put it on the "highlights" CD.

What's up with that? The Bishop made the cut, but that didn't? That's just wrong.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:26:00 AM
I am so glad they did a good job with it! We probably won't go till next weekend, but I can't wait!!





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Posted: 12/25/2012 12:17:52 PM

But oh Russell. What did you do, agreeing to do this role? I know you have a rock band and you can carry a tune but ohhhhh I cringed. Was it too high for you? The wrong key for you? Both at the same time maybe.


The actors had to do the songs in one take as the music was sung "live" as they rolled filmed and not pre-recorded and dubbed in later. I read a review that mentioned because of that (probably), Russell Crowe was less than stellar.

Doesn't matter, I still want to see it.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 12:21:32 PM
I stopped by the theater yesterday and purchased 5 tickets for
4:00 today. I couldn't believe I got the "supersaver" rate of $5.50 each.

Cannot wait!

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Posted: 12/25/2012 12:23:53 PM
I honestly don't know about a 10 yr old seeing it. There is prostitution, and a 10 yr old boy is graphically shot and killed. The streets run with blood. It's very sad. But every parent is different.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 1:19:32 PM
We want to see it today but we would feel bad leaving my MIL home with our youngest on Christmas Day. We will get to see it this week sometime! Glad to hear you loved it!!

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Posted: 12/25/2012 1:25:00 PM

We're going at 4:20. Can't wait!



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Posted: 12/25/2012 2:04:01 PM
Benem, so glad you got to go see it, knowing it was on your wish list. And I love hearing that Anne did such a great job; I think she's been a bit under-rated. Looking forward to seeing it!


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Posted: 12/25/2012 4:28:34 PM
We just got back from seeing the movie. I loved it. DISCLAIMER: this is one of my top 5 favorite musicals, so I am very partial to the story line and the music but, without "spoilers":

The performances of Anne Hathaway, Eddie Redmayne and Hugh Jackson blew me away. Each one is deserving of an Oscar nomination, but especially Anne Hathaway - she made me bawl like a baby. That the actors sang the songs live, without dubbing, brings a "realistic" quality, warts and all, that you don't typically see in a movie musical.

The production quality and attention to detail is terrific.

DH and I disagreed on Russel Crowe's performance. I thought it was weak and lacking in passion. DH thought it was fine. All in your tastes I guess.

The movie isn't as "musical" as a live stage performance, but I think it does a much better job of bringing the story home to the soul.

And I wouldn't take a young child, or even one under 12-13 to the movie. There are some fairly graphic scenes (not to mention the repeated PG-13 and higher film previews shown before the movie itself!)



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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:01:27 PM
We went to the 11:00 AM show this morning and we
all loved it! Even DS which proves the younger
generation can appreciate a musical AND a show
without special effects!


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We also agreed that Crowe was the weakest character.
Although the singing was done *live*, I don't know
if they were only given once chance to sing it. It
wasn't his singing that bothered us as much as how
bland his character was. Wasn't he supposed to be
meaner?

ETA: I started another thread because, well, I did
a search and Les Mis came up empty.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:03:56 PM
yes, the story is not appropriate for children under 12 I think. Even then, it's not an 'upper'..
Check out Flickster or wiki, and see a synopsis.

people die, children die (as was mentioned) ...I am not even sure about the rating.

Anyone know??


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:06:21 PM
why not find a film that's appropriate for a 10 year old? Sorry, I am upset about that question.

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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:09:29 PM
Can't wait to see it. It's my #1 favorite. I have 4 versions on my IPod. Glad everybody liked it. It is SO not Rent.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:32:27 PM
I thought Russell did great! I know he's not a singer but so much better than Gerard Butler in 'Phantom' and Pierce Brosnan in 'Mamma Mia'.

I agree though, that he could have been meaner. I always envision Javert snarling when he sings some lyrics- no snarling here.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:39:13 PM

Pierce Brosnan in 'Mamma Mia'.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 5:54:28 PM
DD (age 13) and I went and really enjoyed it. It made the story much clearer than what I had seen previously (The PBS performance and a youth theater performance)

I got teary and with the number of big snorting sounds in the theater, I know I wasn't alone.

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Posted: 12/25/2012 6:04:35 PM
Sitting here in the theatre waiting for it to start.

Don't worry I will turn off my phone as soon as the lights go down

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Posted: 12/25/2012 7:04:56 PM

What's up with that? The Bishop made the cut, but that didn't? That's just wrong.


Could be because the bishop is the orginal Jean Valjean from the stage production.

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Posted: 12/25/2012 7:09:05 PM
I loved it. I thought Russell Crowe did a really nice job - it worked for me. I loved that it was sung live - none of them were perfect and it allowed them to act more.

I really, really enjoyed it (and had a good cry, which always means something was effective for me.)



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Posted: 12/25/2012 7:49:37 PM

(and had a good cry, which always means something was effective for me.)


^^^^^ This. I don't cry. Hardly ever. But this
made me ~ not a boo hoo, snot flinging cry, but
weepy.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:09:17 PM
I cried when Hugh Jackman started his tortured singing and then Anne Hathaway made me sob and it just went on and on.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:19:12 PM
I saw it and loved it. I didn't think I could love Hugh Jackman any more, but surprise!

I took my 10 year old son with me and he loved it so much he asked me to go AGAIN. But he is definitely NOT your average 10 year old. He saw Phantom of the Opera on Broadway at 4 and new every word to every song and completely comprehended the story. He truly appreciates quality theater and loves musicals.

Interesting - he thought Russel Crowe did well. I thought his performance was a little weak...


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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:31:31 PM
I haven't seen it. I do not like RC, but I have quite admired his performances in other movies. A Beautiful Mind was perfect.

So who would have been better in that role? I'm going to see it soon, but not sure when I can find the time. I saw it on Broadway many years ago and did NOT love it. I didn't hate it, but it was not great. I think I was too young! (ah the days!)

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Posted: 12/25/2012 8:33:10 PM
I am going with girlfriends tomorrow and cannot wait! I will be sure to stick tissues in my purse...I am a crybaby.

My 11 year old son is a theatre kid and appreciates that type if show as well. He has seen the musical (done by high school and college age kids.) He even asked if he could audition for Gavroche, but there was a minimum age (13) because of the subject matter. I think I would let him see it on DVD so that I could forward through the more graphic scenes.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 9:08:36 PM
Regarding a 10 year old? I completely disagree with the posts I saw saying it's not okay.

First of all, this particular 10 year old saw Hunger Games. Um, kids dying? Yeah, been there, done that, right?

Anyway, this is a story for the ages. And the music is some of the best ever written for musical theater. Absolutely, take her.

My kids have loved this music and show ever since we first found it. My youngest was 6 or 7 then, and I would have taken her to see a movie version of the musical without a second thought.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 9:56:30 PM
wow, loved it. Hugh Jackman and Anne Hathaway should be major Oscar contenders. I can't imagine what it would take to beat them.

Russel Crowe I thought was okay. I have seen the play three times (I lived in NY, for a period of time every guest who came to visit wanted to see it.) The first two times the actor playing Javert was at least as good as the actor playing Valjean. The third time the actor playing Javert had a good voice, but not a particularly strong voice. That is how I felt about Russel Crowe.

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We just got back from seeing it. Pretty much agree with everyone else's assessments. I thought Russell Crowe sounded like the best baritone in a mediocre church choir. Very hooty and forced in the upper range.

Am I the only person who noticed all the changed lyrics and omitted verses? I listened obsessively to the cast recording in high school so probably not everyone knows the songs as well as I do.

Also, there was a guy behind us who wouldn't stop singing along. Someone had to get the manager to come and remove him.

ETA: My 11 year old was perfectly fine with it. The part I was least comfortable with her seeing was Fantine with her "customer" right before her solo, but it was brief and hardly graphic. The violence? Well, yeah, she's seen and read Hunger Games. It's disturbing but I find at her age that stuff like that, in the context of a movie or show with larger themes, can be the basis for a great, age-appropriate conversation about some pretty heavy topics.



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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:00:32 PM
We just got back about an hour ago. I LOVED it. The theater was sold out and you could hear a pin drop except for the occasional sniffle.

Anne Hathaway made me bawl and my DH won't stop singing "master of the house, keeper of the zoo".



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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:12:56 PM
My oldest and myself, went to the 4:20 show today and we LOVED it! It is without a doubt, my favorite Broadway show, so I was a little nervous how it would be turned in to a film. I was not disappointed. I wasn't as impressed with Jackman and Crow as I was the younger members of the cast. I cried numerous times and I can't say I've done that at the live theater.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:31:17 PM
Just got back. I thought it was fantastic. I read this thread before I went, and when people said they cried I just shrugged it off--I know the story well so couldn't see why I'd cry. Wrong. I cried several times. I think it's because unlike on stage, you can really see their tortured faces.

Re: Russell Crowe--maybe I had low expectations because I'd read so much criticism, but I thought he did well! Definitely not the star, but he held his own. Really, I think it may have just been that people were so totally blown away by some of the other actors that his 'good' performance just paled in comparison.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:36:32 PM
The scene with Russell Crowe that made me start crying:

SPOILER



















When he put his medal on that little boy.


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Posted: 12/25/2012 11:44:40 PM
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Posted: 12/26/2012 1:16:37 AM
Dd and I saw the 10:00 show tonight - loved it, Hugh Jackman blew me away, as did Anne Hathaway and Amanda Seigfreid.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:06:39 AM
I rarely enjoy screen adaptations of recent musical theatre (with "Chicago" a notable exception). I was looking forward to this movie, but, admittedly, didn't have high expectations.

- Not surprisingly, I enjoyed the best singers - especially the student characters and Eponine. Of the non-singers, I thought Ann Hathaway more than made up for her vocal limitations with her acting, Amanda Seyfried's singing was somewhat improved by her acting, and poor Russell Crowe was just miscast. The Javert-Valjean relationship lacked the ferocity it needs to carry the story. (All five of us strongly agreed on this.)

- I was really put off by the almost-unceasing close ups. I understand that a film has to be different than a stage production. This director was clearly using cinematic devices to convey raw emotion...pathos...the shared human struggle ...sacrifice ...redemption...yada, yada, but I can still feel connected to someone's pain without looking up their nostrils.

- Much of the added stuff really helped clarify various plot devices (like Valjean initially demonstrating his physical strength in prison), but the added song (Valjean as a new papa) was both unnecessary and unremarkable. We all thought the peculiar gesture by Javert towards the end (with the little boy) went against his character's state of mind and was very Spielberg-ian.

I know I sound pretty negative. Last month, I grumbled about spending $100 for a bad seat to see the most recent touring production of the play, but I feel like I got more for that money than the twelve bucks I spent this afternoon. That said, I'm still glad I went.

[Plus, this thread needed one naysayer, huh?]

One of these days, I'm going to read the darned book. Have any of you plowed through the whole thing?






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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:22:22 AM
Saw it today. I had never seen the show or read the book (hanging head in shame), so I had absolutely no expectations.

LOVED IT, though I thought Russell Crow was a poor singer, and certainly thought the last scene/song of his could have been SO much more moving. Amanda Seyfried did a nice job acting, her singing is a whole other story though. I am grateful she is more of a supporting character.

Hugh Jackman was amazing, I think I'm slightly in love with him. As was Anne Hathaway. I was also very enamored with Eddie Redmayne. I am still trying to figure out why he looks so familiar to me.....

My son is a working singer/actor/dancer working out of New York, and is typically a very tough critic with a very specific set of criteria for actors to live up to. Even he had a lot of positive thoughts about the movie.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:04:38 AM
The book was required reading in HS for me (way back in 1978). I slogged my way thru it, not really understanding a lot of it. I just didn't get the significance of the politics, poverty, and moral dilemmas. What would you do to feed a dying child, even if it is your sister's and not your own? What would you do, as a single parent, to get medicine for your child you had to leave behind with caretakers? What would you do if your daughter fell in love and you could potentially change your daughter's life and social status by your action or inaction? Could a monsignor's faith in a petty criminal really change that man's ways for the rest of his days? Is there really redemption? I had skipped the play (so I can't compare the soundtrack or song editing) but I LOVED the movie.

The perspective at age 50 is very different than the perspective my teenaged self had at the time I was required to read the book. My world experiences have helped me understand the complexity of the ethical dilemmas so much better than the black and white world I lived in as a teen.

Russell Crowe's Javert was not nearly as sneaky, underhanded, mean-spirited and ruthless as I remember in the book. Crowe came across as rather bland (in the book Javert was completely consumed with finding Valjean). And they handled Eponine's bravery (and subsequent death) very well. Borat as the innkeeper was unexpectedly funny and repulsive and Helena Bonham Carter's overracting was perfect for this film.

I adored Hugh Jackman: he played Valjean so well that I really believed Valjean would do anything to make things right. His physical strength out of such a seemingly scrawny guy made me believe nothing was impossible. His tenacity to make things right, no matter what the circumstances, was remarkable and believable.

And yes, take tissues. I knew what to expect, and still ending up crying my eyes out. In a good way.



Pelly




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