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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:30:30 AM
I understand the idea behind prayers and why people pray but can someone explain the idea of "asking for" or "sending" positive thoughts? Is it a new age thing? I've tried looking it up but can't find any definitive answers. Thanks.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:33:46 AM
Speaking for myself as an atheist, if someone is looking for help I'm not going to pray but saying I send positive thoughts lets them know I'm not ignoring them, will be thinking about them and hoping for a positive outcome.

In my eyes they're no different and the result is the same.





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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:36:28 AM
I send positive thoughts, energy, prayers, and anything else out to the universe because I believe it is all received.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:37:20 AM
Yep - what Gar said. Word for word!!!


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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:42:37 AM
I'm not sure what sort of definitive answer you're after as I'm sure it means different things to different people. I just googled it and that's pretty much what you get, many different opinions.

For me, I think the point is that for the person who receives those thoughts, it may help them to feel less alone when they are going through a crisis.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 2:47:54 AM
I'm not a Christian, but I do feel sad for someone going thru a tough time and I want to let them know I am thinking of them and wishing them well.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 3:29:53 AM
My feelings are very close to what gar explained as well.

I will sometimes say that I am sending prayers too, even though I am not a 'believer' and they are not the traditional prayers to God that others usually mean when they say that they pray.

My prayers and positive thoughts are more taking the time to stop and think of someone, to wish that if there 'is' a way to channel thoughts or to control and direct positive energy, that that is what I am hoping for on their behalf.

I don't know if I believe that that is actually possible. But if there is even the potential that people's combined psychic energy and thoughts could influence corporeal outcomes in any way, then I am game to try.

And at the very least, I hope that the person posting will know that I 'care'. And that at the bare minimum knowing that another person is hoping and wishing for a positive outcome for them, might help to make them feel a bit better, or ease their burden, fears, or stresses even just for the time it takes them to read the post.

I would imagine that any affirmation that someone is listening, that they genuinely care, that they are thinking of you and hoping for and wishing all the best, would be a welcomed and appreciated thing. Whether that was in the form of a 'prayer' that a believer might think could actually have an influence, or even if it was 'just' in the form of positive thoughts.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 4:17:52 AM
Nothing.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 4:29:26 AM
What gar said.

And that's why I don't respond to people who ask for prayers, only those who ask for prayers and/or positive thoughts. I don't want to offend anyone, but since I don't pray it would be rude to barge into the thread with my "positive thoughts."

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Posted: 12/26/2012 4:40:45 AM
Ditto what Gar and Katybee said. In fact, if the thread title says something like "Prayers needed" I probably won't even open the thread. That probably sounds really awful and uncaring, but to me it means that the poster is someone who only wants Christians responding with prayers. I kind of almost take it personally, like my thoughts and sympathy or empathy isn't good enough for them. Gosh, I am not good at putting into words what I mean.


If someone asks for P&PT I will open the thread and most likely comment, even if it is just (((Hugs))).

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Posted: 12/26/2012 4:43:22 AM
What Gar said.

It's just a way of offering support to the person having a rough time and needing to know they aren't alone. There are people out there who care.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 4:51:05 AM
The biggest thing that has helped me stay positive in my recent health struggles is knowing that people care and are pulling for me. While I really do appreciate prayers to the Master of the universe, it is also comforting to know that people are concerned and would miss you if you were gone. A "Hey, I have been thinking about you and hope you are doing well" can really make my day.

There is a spiritual side of emotional uplifting, but also an interpersonal one as well.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 5:48:26 AM


I send positive thoughts, energy, prayers, and anything else out to the universe because I believe it is all received.



Ditto. I'd much rather someone be thinking about me positively than negatively, that's for sure.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 6:39:05 AM
I believe in putting out positive energy to attract more positive energy. It is part of my faith, some might call it new age, but it is older than Christianity.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:09:13 AM

In fact, if the thread title says something like "Prayers needed" I probably won't even open the thread. That probably sounds really awful and uncaring, but to me it means that the poster is someone who only wants Christians responding with prayers.

I can understand what you are saying but wanted you to know that most of the time when you open the thread titled like that.... The OP will ask for P & PT in their post, but just do not put the PT in their title.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:19:06 AM
I'm with gar.

I don't really see a difference.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:31:58 AM
I don't understand this question.

Do you say "have a nice day" or "happy birthday" or "feel better soon"?

Should those of us who are not religious simply not speak?

Is this the Thrusday thread? Because it is a day early.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:34:36 AM
I'm not very religious and I feel like sending positive thoughts is more genuine.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:37:38 AM
If I'm going through a difficult time, it does comfort me to have friends sending well wishes and possitive thoughts. I appreciate prayers because to me it means my friends are doing something that they think is the best they can do and I appreciate the thought. I do not believe it makes any difference in the situation though. I appreciate them caring about me.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:59:14 AM
The world is made up of energy and thoughts can become reality.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:03:41 AM
I don't pray. So when someone starts a thread asking for support, I think it's much nicer to say I'm sending positive thoughts/thinking of them, then to just ignore it and say nothing as though I don't care.

Also, I do believe the world is made up of energy, and thoughts are also a part of that energy and it's all interconnected...so you never know, maybe they are doing some good (and they're certainly not hurting anyone), so why not?

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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:26:30 AM

The world is made up of energy and thoughts can become reality.


This is why people ask for prayers and positive thoughts.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:29:01 AM

The world is made up of energy and thoughts can become reality.


This is why people ask for prayers and positive thoughts.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:36:28 AM
I am one of those Christians who do NOT want positive thoughts directed towards some "energy". I will not post and ask for them though either.
I will not post asking for prayer on a very worldly board like this either.

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:39:03 AM
I will always offer P&PT if someone asks, to let them know they are not alone.

But I ain't swinging no chickens...that just gets MESSY!


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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:48:28 AM

I am one of those Christians who do NOT want positive thoughts directed towards some "energy". I will not post and ask for them though either.
I will not post asking for prayer on a very worldly board like this either.

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 8:56:07 AM

The world is made up of energy and thoughts can become reality.


This is why people ask for prayers and positive thoughts.
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I also believe that sending positive thoughts and positive energy is perfectly compatible with religion as well

it's not prayers OR positive thoughts


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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:00:24 AM

Lovely.

But not unexpected. I can assure you Country Ham, for many peas, there are no possitive thoughts about you.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:00:28 AM

it's not prayers OR positive thoughts


I agree. Energy is a scientific concept from physics. I think most religious people don't feel that the field of physics contradics the presence of God?

Energy, in its most basic definition is (from our lovely Wiki):

In physics, energy (Ancient Greek: ἐνέργεια energeia "activity, operation"[1]) is an indirectly observed quantity that is often understood as the ability of a physical system to do work on other physical systems.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:03:19 AM

I can assure you Country Ham, for many peas, there are no possitive thoughts about you.




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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:10:32 AM
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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:12:42 AM
And also it's what "positive thoughts" mean to you. When people say it, I usually think along the lines of they are thinking about me because they care and are wishing me the best through a situation. I don't believe in all of the "energy in the universe" stuff, but if that's what they want to wish me, that's fine, too. They still care.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:12:49 AM
And also it's what "positive thoughts" mean to you. When people say it, I usually think along the lines of they are thinking about me because they care and are wishing me the best through a situation. I don't believe in all of the "energy in the universe" stuff, but if that's what they want to wish me, that's fine, too. They still care.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:14:33 AM

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.


It doesn't really sound as though you would appreciate the caring.

And any positive energy that people are invoking has 'nothing' to do with your God. There is no contradiction because it is an entirely separate thing. The people who would do this do not believe in God, and are not trying to say that there is some other way to access him but through Jesus.

So if that is what you are worried about, don't be. Your God does not even factor into those thoughts. And if those thoughts, for what they are, are not good enough for you and would be an affront of some kind to your God...if any kind of good and positive thoughts would be deemed offensive by your God and something that you should deny yourself and make others feel badly about...then your God sucks.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:20:54 AM
I do believe in God I do believe in prayer.

I know many don't do I don't have a problem sending whatever kind of 'energy, thoughts, prayers, well wishes, hope they have need of at the time.


I've never understood the concept but I know it to be a truth. The prayer of one is heard but the power of multiple prayers of people for the same purpose is extremely powerful.







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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:32:33 AM

I am one of those Christians who do NOT want positive thoughts directed towards some "energy". I will not post and ask for them though either.
I will not post asking for prayer on a very worldly board like this either.

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.


I just love it when Christians talk like this. It's so unbelievably unChristian.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:33:03 AM

I am one of those Christians who do NOT want positive thoughts directed towards some "energy". I will not post and ask for them though either.
I will not post asking for prayer on a very worldly board like this either.

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.

Well sweetie, this post tells me you are in deep need of my heathen Atheist positive vibes right now. Oh, I practice Reiki too and rest assured, I'm focusing on your needs now. I will spend a few minutes every morning doing that, and directing some positive energy your way to hopefully open your heart and give you some peace.

Just remember, my third eye is on you. Right now.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 9:41:20 AM

I am one of those Christians who do NOT want positive thoughts directed towards some "energy". I will not post and ask for them though either.
I will not post asking for prayer on a very worldly board like this either.

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.


Sending positive thoughts your way!!!




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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:02:05 AM

And any positive energy that people are invoking has 'nothing' to do with your God. There is no contradiction because it is an entirely separate thing. The people who would do this do not believe in God, and are not trying to say that there is some other way to access him but through Jesus.




I've got to disagree-there are plenty of people who believe in god that send positive thoughts and prayer to those in need

it's not an either/or requirement


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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:05:24 AM

I am one of those Christians who do NOT want positive thoughts directed towards some "energy". I will not post and ask for them though either.
I will not post asking for prayer on a very worldly board like this either.

I do appreciate when folks care but I just don't want them invoking any energies on my behalf that contradict that the only way to God is through his Son.

Wow. Bitchy asshole. Get off your fucking high horse and get over your self-righteous, snobby self. I'll make sure to never have a positive thought about you.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:07:20 AM

I've got to disagree-there are plenty of people who believe in god that send positive thoughts and prayer to those in need

it's not an either/or requirement



Of course it's not. Someone can believe in God and send prayers and positive thoughts. Clearly those would be acceptable to her.

I was responding to the kinds of positive thoughts from 'non-believers' that she was clearly rejecting.

And saying that those are not a contravention of God/Jesus because 'those' positive thoughts from non-believers have nothing to do with God.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:08:08 AM
People are being seriously rude to CountryHam even though there are plenty (not all) of atheists who do not like it when others pray for them. Double standard. And I know you are all going to come scream that you don't care if people pray for you, but you know there are those that do. Are they also bitchy assholes?

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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:14:05 AM
I forget to say, thank you, peano.

I do not think that I have ever seen anyone reject prayers from believers who are wishing positive outcomes and happiness for them and their loved ones.

I do know some people do not like the 'I am praying for you that you give up your heathen ways and find the grace and mercy of God'.

But those are very different things.

I have never read on this board of anyone posting of a personal crisis or tragedy and telling people that they do not want their prayers.

But if that has happened, and I just missed it, I'd think that that was equally sad and churlish.


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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:18:41 AM

And I know you are all going to come scream that you don't care if people pray for you, but you know there are those that do. Are they also bitchy assholes?


Possibly. I don't mind a possitive thought or prayer for me. The only thing I don't care for is when someone prays to change my mind so I believe just like they do. That's not a possitive caring thing. It doesn't upset me because I don't believe it has any power anyway. Just makes them look like a jerk.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:25:18 AM

But I ain't swinging no chickens...that just gets MESSY!




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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:26:20 AM
What Sunshine said. I get pissed off when someone prays for me to see the "light"... aka believe like they do. If someone wants to pray for me because they think it might help me go through a hard time... sure, whatever. Whatever gives them whatever they are looking for.

CountryHam was a bitch. A positive thought sent her way isn't good enough because it's not Christian. Alright. Then I won't waste my time thinking positively about her. She'll get what she deserves.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:26:52 AM
Sending positive thoughts is very spiritual, no matter whether the person is religious or not.

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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:30:48 AM

For me, I think the point is that for the person who receives those thoughts, it may help them to feel less alone when they are going through a crisis.


Yes, I agree. As an atheist, I don't believe in energy or anything like that. I just want the person to know I'm thinking of them and they aren't alone.

I'm not invoking a power or getting out my Country Ham voodoo doll (although that does sound fun...), I'm just being supportive so that person knows someone cares.



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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:33:33 AM

People are being seriously rude to CountryHam even though there are plenty (not all) of atheists who do not like it when others pray for them. Double standard. And I know you are all going to come scream that you don't care if people pray for you, but you know there are those that do. Are they also bitchy assholes?


Yes.

If I am at a low point and need uplifting, I will accept positive thoughts and prayers from anyone. When my DS was seriously ill several years ago, his friends would call us or visit and say they were thinking of him and praying for him. One of them was Hindu, one was a Sikh, a few were atheists, and most were different denominations of Christianity. Not one of their prayers or thoughts meant less to us because they were different. It just helped to boost him, and us, up at a time when we needed positive energy around us.
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