Ancient Ancestor of Pea
|Posted: 1/3/2013 9:06:22 PM|
I took 100 mg of Zoloft for 9 years. At the end of August 2012 I completed a slow and gradual weaning process. The Zoloft was a godsend the first 2-3 years, I know I needed it then. AFter 10 years of severe debilitating allergies caused me to spend 3 months every spring and 3 months every fall indoors due to severe pollen allergies, all while suffering severe sinus migraines, had created true clinical depression.
Looking back, I think the Zoloft stopped serving me very well a few years ago, but I didn't recognize it until early spring of this year when I decided I wanted to try to wean myself, under my doctor's care. I did fine the first 5 weeks on 1/2 dose, but had a 9 day migraine (on the couch, unable to do anything) when I lowered dose to 1/4. Reading anything I could get my hands on, some advice in a book suggested that I take 500 mg. of L-tyrosine on an empty stomach each morning. It was miraculous. The migraine went away and I was able to continue the very gradual wean.
As I weaned, I started to feel I was coming alive again. While the med initially cleared up the awful brain fog and other symptoms, I believe that in the last couple of years it started causing those symptoms.
Thanks so much if you're still reading!
I'm 52 yo, and suspect that I have been in peri-menopause for 6-7 years. No emotional symptoms during that time, no hot flashes either. I'm basing the previous statement on the fact that my periods changed drastically then, back to the wicked cramps of my youth, the flow became super heavy, and the periods started getting closer and closer together. One year ago I had three full on 6 day awful periods within one four week period. AFter that it's been back to every 22-28 days, my very regular periods used to religiously come at 31 day intervals.
Just after weaning ended I had an allergy season that was far worse than in recent years. I discovered I had been sickened by mold in our bedroom. Mold discovered in early October and immediately treated, and I felt human again.
a few weeks later, at Thanksgiving, I had my first menstrual cycle with over the top emotional symptoms. I am not a cryer, but last month I had 6 days of hysterical - for no apparent reason - can't pull myself together and leave the house and accomplish anything CRYING. Same thing happened at the exact same point in my cycle in December, but the crying continued beyond the first week of my cycle. Yesterday was a good day, the day before that and today I have not been able to get off of the couch. Lots of crying, lots of apathy.
Finally, MY QUESTIONS:
1. Do you think it's possible that the hormone fluctuations I'm likely going through are causing all of this crying and upheaval in my life? I REALLY do not want to take anti-depressants ever again. I just started using a progesterone cream yesterday, will have bloodwork done on day 3 of my next cycle to measure hormone levels. I cannot go on this way, but I really want hormones to be the answer!
2. If you've experienced a return of depression during peri-menopause, did you chose to go back on antidepressant medication?
3. If you had a return of depression, were you able to successfully treat it with something other than antidepressants?
Thank you if you've read this uber-long post. I am feeling desperate to feel well again and welcome all replies. Thanks in advance!
Have you had
|Posted: 1/3/2013 9:10:16 PM|You poor thing! What a crazy roller coaster you've been on! I haven't been in that situation, but I surely hope you can find a solution to give you freedom!
Loc: freedom, pa
|Posted: 1/3/2013 9:13:16 PM|
I think I was on 50mg when my father was sick and I was 37 years old. I weaned myself off it the week after he died.
When peri-menopause reared it's ugly head more than a year ago, my gynecologist put me on the 25mg Zoloft. It was a godsend!
I still get mad...I still get sad....I still have days I can't focus...but it is way less than before I was taking it.
The first time I was on it I was a zombie!
Like my opinion really counts anyway...
Loc: On the Flip Side
|Posted: 1/3/2013 9:15:10 PM|
I wish I could answer this, but I had a hysterectomy at 26.
I have a severe problem with depression so I feel your pain. Hopefully someone will be able to help you out. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers and hopefully, this too shall pass. Good luck!
|Posted: 1/3/2013 9:43:36 PM|
Hormones can do AWFUL things to our bodies if they are out of whack.
I am 37, and this summer I felt worse than I ever have in my life after my doc changed my bc pills to ones with half the estrogen of what I was taking.
My body went out of control. My thyroid went hyperactive. I lost 20 pounds (only weighed 150 to start with at 5'8" I couldn't eat. I was overcome with anxiety to the point of feeling like I couldn't leave the house by myself (and I had NEVER experienced any type of anxiety symptom before in my life). I was a mess! And it was ALL due to the hormones!
My family has a history of early menopause - like age 30-35, so my doc thinks I am likely already in the peri stage myself, and the change in bc pills just sent me over the top.
Call your doctor and get his/her advice. But know that it can be the hormones.
And finally, do not be afraid/ashamed to do whatever you need to do to function (even of that means taking medicine) because in the end, your ability to live your life comfortably is what matters!
Best wishes...I know how badly it sucks. I will say a prayer for you.
Loc: Seattle, WA
|Posted: 1/3/2013 9:57:09 PM|
We're the same age and I haven't experienced any of that. I don't know if I'm just lucky or what. Or the other shoe is about to drop on my head. My period just kind of ended. Stopped over a year ago.
I think going to your doctor and getting blood work done. They can tell where you are in the menopause cycle. Maybe other meds to help for a while?
|Posted: 1/3/2013 10:05:44 PM|
Oh my, I hope they figure something out with your hormone testing and the cream you are using. These things take time to start working so hang in there.
I too am going through a similar situation, was on zoloft for years, had a long tapering off period and vowed to never go back. But this peri-menopause is about to do me in too. My periods are wierd now too, strong, but less bad days, its all at once and then done. The emotional changes are the worst, I think I am going crazy for about 5-7 days in the cycle, have warned my husband to watch out for it too, so sorry about how I get, but can't figure out how to fix it. I lost my mom a few months ago and so I have no one to ask how it went for them.
Loc: SW Michigan
|Posted: 1/3/2013 10:14:08 PM|
I just went through this exact same thing a month ago. I am 42 and have had anxiety/depression for the past 10 years. I have taken Zoloft most successfully and I take the max dose of 200mg a day. I have tried a couple of times to treat it with ways other than pills but it fails and I go back to Zoloft. My last attempt was a month ago, when I felt like my head was going to explode, I was so on edge and emotional. I have finally come to realize that I am a lifer when it comes to depression/anxiety, and now add perimenopause to that. I have two periods a month, and bad cramps like when I was young, plus horrific mood swings. If I were you, I would get the meds again.
Loc: Deep East Texas
|Posted: 1/3/2013 10:25:54 PM|
Tonight there was an ad on tv about something called PBA. I am sorry I don't remember what the letters stood for but one of the symptoms was unexplained crying for no apparent reason. You may be suffering from this. You might have a discussion with your doctor on this. Subject.
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC
|Posted: 1/3/2013 10:34:43 PM|
Please make an appointment with your dr and discuss this with them. I have been on effexor for over 10 years and do not plan on going off it until I am done with menopause. I am having terrible periods right now with pain and heavy flow. they are now coming every 3 weeks instead of 4. I will be being my dr. in the next month or so. I am dealing with my MIL just passing so I need to get stuff in order. I suffered with bad post partum and think that menopause will be a real treat.
Take care and again, please seek information.
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
|Posted: 1/3/2013 11:11:42 PM|
Thanks so much to everyone commenting and sharing!
I do have an appointment to see my primary care doc this Monday afternoon. I was crying so uncontrollably this morning htat my husband called to make the appointment, and he made it at a time of day when he can accompany me and be my voice if I can't talk due to the crazy crying.
Yesterday I had a 90+ minute appointment with a nurse practitioner specializing in hormones. She gave me the progesterone cream and wrote the requisition for my hormone levels to be tested when I hit days 3-5 of my next cycle. One reason I am going to see my primary doc is to hopefully have him order the bloodwork as well as the mammogram I need, if I have them done under the nurse practitioner's orders my insurance won't cover them. I also want to discuss the anti-depressant options, but I really want hormones to "fix" me and give them a chance first. Once the hormone level results come back they may be inconclusive, meaning they will need to be repeated two weeks later. Then we will hopefully know if I am in true menopause, which would mean I would start on bio-identical estrogen as well. I would want to give that a chance to work before taking an anti-D.
Good luck and best wishes to all of you struggling, and thanks to everyone sending prayers and good wishes. It means a lot!
Loc: Adelaide, Australia
|Posted: 1/3/2013 11:31:17 PM|
I agree that you ned to see your dr.
My question is though if you are still seriously depressed what is the problem taking antidepressants? It is a medication to make things better - obviously by taking them you were functioning much better and you certainly cannot continue to live with all this crying day in day out.
If you had a medical condition other than depression than needed medication would you take as prescribed? If the answer is yes then what is the hang up about antidepressants?
If you were diabetic would you stop insulin because you thought you had taken it long enough? Of course not that would cause other health issues well I feel the same about mental health medication.
A doctor would not be prescribing it if you did not need it.
Hope you find some answers soon. Hugs to you.
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
|Posted: 1/4/2013 12:16:07 AM|
HannahRuth, I don't have any problem telling people I took an antidepressant and was very open about it when I was taking it. When I truly needed it, it was a godsend! I believe that in the last 2-3 years I took it that it contributed to my feeling spacey, "flat" etc... the very symptoms it was initially helping. In my reading on the subject I've found statements corroborating that that is in fact possible in some cases. Getting off of the Zoloft was a long, slow process with the 9 day migraine and as I said in OP, I started to feel more human and alive OFF of the meds.
I am hoping that the cause for these tears is hormonal and that hormone replacement therapy will be what is needed to put me back into balance and allow me to be a functioning member of society once again.
I decided tonight that I will seriously consider taking an antidepressant if hormones aren't a solution for me... i'm just hoping not to have to.
I'm just a pea:)
Loc: *Sunny Southern California*
|Posted: 1/4/2013 8:32:33 AM|
Im in Peri menopause and depressed again after being off Effexor for about 5 years.
There's a lot of crap going on right now and it's completely reasonable that I'm depressed.
So I'm not blaming the hormones and if/when I decide to go to the doctor about it I'm positive he wont blame hormones either.
I hope you get the help you need to feel better
Why, YES!, I am a princess.
|Posted: 1/4/2013 8:48:00 AM|
Talk to your GYN and get blood work run. They can see what is going on and provide hormone replacements if necessary. It's times like you're describing that having a great relationship with your GYN is so valuable.
Loc: My DH's heart
|Posted: 1/4/2013 8:49:31 AM|
As far as I know--and I am not a doctor--you are not in menopause until you haven't had a period for 12 months, and there isn't a blood test to tell whether you're in perimenopause.
Loc: Houston, Texas
|Posted: 1/4/2013 9:14:38 AM|I am a HUGE believer in bioidentical hormones and I know first hand how hormones can play a huge part in a woman's life whether you are menopausal, perio-menopausal or not. So much of how I felt in my life before was easily chalked up to "normal" or depression. Once I discovered BHT, I am a new woman. I currently take compounded, porcine Thyroid, progesterone and cortisol, plus a host of natural supplements.
I would encourage you to do a lot of research before going on Zoloft again. I am not saying that Zoloft is not the right thing for you or anyone else, but be informed about hormone therapy before you choose it again.
I am a patient at Dr. Hotze's office and he has a great website on women's issued with hormones: Hotze's Website with Quiz on Symptoms
I also recommend (beleive it or not) Suzanne Somers' books on BHT. You might also evaluate your diet. Certain foods can wreak havoc with hormones. I am very anti-fake sugar (HFCS and fructose), which could be a whole 'nother dicussion here, but suffice it to say that I believe that eliminating a lot of processed foods can really help
|Lisa in Texas/KULP
Mommy to two beautiful girls and Urban Crazy since 2004!
|Posted: 1/4/2013 11:00:18 AM|
I starting having severe panic attacks almost six years ago and after several tests, therapy, etc., started taking Effexor (and initially Xanax, but I rarely ever take that now). Fast forward to now. I turned 50 this year and my periods stopped exactly one year ago. My Dr. Was able to confirm that I was in menopause with a blood test six months ago. My only real symptom (for about the past two years) is that I am CONSTANTLY hot. I do also have an occasional "hot flash" on top of that. I truly feel that the reason that I do not have any mood changes or depression is because of the Effexor. I am the first one to say, try everything else that you can before going back on meds - but if nothing else brings you relief, then I would go back on the meds (maybe ask if you should try a different one). Good luck!