Did Hillary recover from a blood clot

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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:12:33 AM
Pretty fast or is that just my take? My dh had one and it took a lot longer to get his under control and it wasn't in the brain?? One of my friends thinks its a hoax. I have a hard time thinking a dr would play along with a hoax????!


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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:17:44 AM
There are rumors circulating that it wasn't a blood clot.
Hillary Clinton injured in plane crash

Not saying I believe it... just lots of sites reporting this, as well as a death of a Navy Seal.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:19:08 AM
You are correct that doctors and hospitals don't play along with the kind of ridiculous fraud being suggested by some Republicans.

As far as her recovery time goes, she was hospitalized for a week and sent home to continue her recovery.

My stepmother had a hip replacement last year and spent six weeks in rehab. My husband's aunt had one, too, but she went home after three days in rehab.

Recovery times for anything will vary.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:21:47 AM
she will probably be on blood thinners for a while.

A friend has been on blood thinners for 6 months now because of blood clots behind her knees.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:24:16 AM
Well I have to agree with some republicans the timing of all this is very suspicious regarding the Benghazi testimonies. I hate the radical republicans as well as the radical Democrats. While I hate their overreactions the Benghazi deal stinks to high heaven!!


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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:29:24 AM
She won't be 'recovered' the clot is most likely still there and will take time to dissolve on it's own. The anticoagulant drugs will make sure it doesn't get any bigger and that no new ones form.
I would say it is likely that she will have either a private doctor or at least a nurse staying with her for a few days...it's not the same as sending one of us home! It is also likely that she won't have to do the cooking, cleaning or vacuuming when she gets home either, she'll be resting and being monitored, so really no reason for her to stay in hospital.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:29:45 AM
She is still going to testify about Benghazi.

God, I find conspiracy theorists tiresome.

The woman fell, got a concussion and a subsequent blood clot. There is nothing suspicious about that.

With proper medication, home healthcare and monitoring, it's better for her to be at home than in the hospital. Nosocomial infections are always a risk plus there are undoubtedly security issues with having the Secretary of State at a hospital, so it's better for everyone to get her out of the sooner.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:59:13 AM
This is the kind of thing that drives me bonkers.

As much as I disagree with Sec. Clinton's politics, I don't believe this is a hoax, and have been concerned about her.

Everything is made into a conspiracy theory. I would much rather be fooled someday than be suspicious about everything that happens all the time!


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Posted: 1/4/2013 2:14:25 AM
Just because they are sending her home doesn't mean she is recovered. It just means she is at a point in her treatment where they are comfortable releasing her from 24/7 care and monitoring. She will probably keep taking blood thinners, and will keep having checkups to monitor it. I'm sure the size and location of it also play into her healing time as well.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 4:02:43 AM
I find it vulgar when people who haven't examined a patient draw medical conclusions.





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Posted: 1/4/2013 4:29:39 AM
Also OP, the blood clot wasn't "in" her brain as you suggested, it was "on" the brain. This makes a big difference. A blood clot is always serious, but some are more serious that others.

But as others have said, I doubt she's alone at home. People are discharged from hospitals all the time with things that are then tended to at home with the help of home health care. Really you're better off at home because of all the infections that run through hospitals. (I work in one, so nurses please know that I'm not taking a swipe at hospitals. )

The thing that always amuses me about an of these conspiracy theories is the assumption that everyone else is in on the conspiracy -- those that would need to be, like staff members, nurses, doctors, reporters -- and that a conspiracy could be kept quiet in this country.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:12:27 AM


Also OP, the blood clot wasn't "in" her brain as you suggested, it was "on" the brain. This makes a big difference. A blood clot is always serious, but some are more serious that others.



Right. This was behind her ear between her skull and brain.

And ITA about how many people would have to be in on this "conspiracy." Come on, that's SO stupid!



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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:45:29 AM
My mother was in the hospital a few months ago. They found a blood clot in her lung. They put her on coumadin. In the process of dealing with the blood clot they also found a problem with her heart. She was in the hospital for five days and was then released with doctor's orders to visit a coumadin clinic once a week to have her levels checked. There must be a conspiracy in there somewhere.




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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:47:31 AM
My friend went into the hospital for a blood clot behind his knee on 12/21 and was released on Christmas Eve.

I don't understand why anyone thinks they have the right to her private medical information, why anyone believes the doctors would perpetuate a fraud or why these stupid conspiracy theories persist. She's not dead, she'll testify at some point. Every single report that has come out about Benghazi so far makes the people who circulated the conspiracy theories look more foolish.

ETA: I also find it ludicrous that anyone believes that "suicide" would be the cover story for a Navy Seal if he was killed in the course of his duties.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 6:00:56 AM

Recovery times for anything will vary.


She probably has full time care at home - she certainly can afford it. I'd be out of the hospital as soon as they would let me go home, and she probably made that choice.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 6:52:51 AM
As long as you are not in immeditate danger, they will send you home. There are too many germs floating around hospitals to keep you there any longer then necessary. Both my dad and brother had open heart surgery and were home by the 5th day after the surgery. She will continue with medication and they will continue to monitor her.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:42:23 AM

This is the kind of thing that drives me bonkers.

As much as I disagree with Sec. Clinton's politics, I don't believe this is a hoax, and have been concerned about her.

Everything is made into a conspiracy theory. I would much rather be fooled someday than be suspicious about everything that happens all the time!


Exactly!

Unfortunately, the majority of Reps (at least in my circle) DO believe that it was a true health scare and wish her a full and speedy recovery. We can have those same feelings simultaneously expecting that she testify in the Benghazi hearings as we would if the SOS were a Rep. We just don't feel the need to blog about it or write to the editor of the paper. "Conservative Libertarian in NC Believes that Hillary truly has a blood cloth." Gripping!


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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:46:17 AM
Hoax? Disgusting.


OK. Newbie. This is how it works. If your post consists of 80% sanity, 10% stupidity and 10% all kinds of crazy, we immediately focus on the 20% b/c it discredits the 80%.




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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:53:51 AM
I'm so glad she's on the road to recovery and the asshats that think it's some type of hoax can bite Secretary Clinton's ass.





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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:07:56 AM
I'm willing to go with the consipiracy theory, Bengazi proved that our govt truely doesn't tell us everything, and well they don't have to.




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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:27:19 AM
I always heard that blood thinners make a person feel really bad. A blood clot is a very serious thing! I do hope she takes care of herself.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:29:46 AM
I heard it was really an alien remote broadcasting device in her head and that she had it removed.

Seriously?

There was ABSOLUTELY nothing about this that reads hoax. While our government may tell us everything about everything all the time and while medical health is considered a privacy issue unless you are a celebrity of some sort, there's nothing about this that reads hoax of any sort to me.

But that's me. I am not a conspiracy theorist as much as I enjoy reading them from time to time.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:42:51 AM
melissa - I'm not saying her blood clot is a hoax, I'm saying the event that caused her medical problems *may* not be truthful.




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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:53:32 AM
Good God, does the woman have to die to make some people happy?


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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:26:49 AM
Sheesh! Aren't YOU guys overreacting a bit??? I still think the timing is a bit odd. Yes it COULD be coincidence but with THIS administration I Have little trust. You guys won't either when were floating down the tube. Oh but of course it'll still be gWb fault. Lol. You make me glad I am no longer a liberal. And thanks for reminding me how the peas are. I have to come every once in a great while to remember why this board is known all over the Internet as the meanest thing around. Lol. See ya in a year or two or three.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:59:26 AM
I had a blood clot in my leg in Feb. I went to the emergency room. They gave me a shot in the stomach with Lovenox and sent me home with prescription for coumadin and Lovenox. I was on Lovenox for 8 or 9 days (DH gave shots in my stomach every day) and I was on coumadin for 9 months, having my levels checked every few days, up to 6 weeks...once my levels finally balanced out.

Some people get the right balance of coumadin quickly, for others, it takes a while and for some, they have to have stents put in place for the blood to flow.

For heavens sakes, it would take an awful lot of people to keep secrets over a something like this, it would be so impossible.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:57:11 AM

I have to come every once in a great while to remember why this board is known all over the Internet as the meanest thing around.
Peas is the meanest thing around? Please. If you think that, then you haven't been around. This is freakin' Sunday School compared to most boards.

As for you initial assertion, no I don't think it's a conspiracy or a coverup. It sounds pretty par for the course during recovery.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 12:05:13 PM

I have to come every once in a great while to remember why this board is known all over the Internet as the meanest thing around. Lol. See ya in a year or two or three.


Really, because based on your posting history you're here quite a bit.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 12:11:14 PM

Sheesh! Aren't YOU guys overreacting a bit??? I still think the timing is a bit odd. Yes it COULD be coincidence but with THIS administration I Have little trust. You guys won't either when were floating down the tube. Oh but of course it'll still be gWb fault. Lol. You make me glad I am no longer a liberal. And thanks for reminding me how the peas are. I have to come every once in a great while to remember why this board is known all over the Internet as the meanest thing around. Lol. See ya in a year or two or three.
Who are you talking to?

I have yet to read on here where anyone made personal jabs at YOU or Reps. I would know if they did because I'm a Conservative/Libertarian and tend to pick up on that kind of stuff.


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You bring a controversial thread here, get a moderately lukewarm response (by Peas standards) and then complain we're mean? I don't get it.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 12:48:25 PM

I have to come every once in a great while to remember why this board is known all over the Internet as the meanest thing around.


Bwhahahaha! You clearly do not get out (on the internet) much. The people in my local newspaper's comments section are meaner than Peas, on the whole.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:21:26 PM
Some of you are confusing a DVT with a subdural bleed. When someone has a clot in their legs, it could travel to the lungs and cause a pulmonary embolus. Is is a clotting problem and the patient would be treated with Heparin or Lovenox in the short term and Coumadin in the long term.

A bleed is quite different. I understand that Mrs. Clinton had a subdural bleed. A vessel in her brain bled and caused a hematoma. It is usually caused by trauma, like a fall.

I find it ludicrous that anyone would think this was a hoax.

I hope she heals and makes a full recovery.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:23:52 PM

A bleed is quite different. I understand that Mrs. Clinton had a subdural bleed. A vessel in her brain bled and caused a hematoma. It is usually caused by trauma, like a fall.


Interesting, because I could have sworn every time I heard something about it it was refereed to as a clot.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:29:03 PM
Lying about a blood clot (or bleed) on the brain seems like it enters "no way, no how, bad juju, bad karma" territory and I have a hard time believing that anyone would do it.

I can see where timing and circumstances are suspect but I would think that if Mrs. Clinton or the administration wanted to keep her from testifying, there are legitimate ways to do so.



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Peas are mean? Have you read some of the shit posted at FreeRepublic?


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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:36:06 PM
What I find amusing, is I opened this thread just to see how many posts it would take for the OP to cry the peas are the meanest thing on the internet,& she wouldn't be back for a couple years, if at all.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 2:38:17 PM
LAB, that's your hair flip?

Nothing that was said here is as "mean" as casting aspersions on a woman's veracity re a dangerous medical issue, "just 'cause." You want to smear the woman's name, then plead victim?

Take some responsibility for what you started.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 2:45:38 PM
This kind of short hospitalization is standard nowadays.

I was only hospitalized OVERNIGHT, less than 24 hours, for a clot in my lungs (pulmonary embolus). They begin therapy in the hospital; it continues for months, years, even a lifetime.

Compare this to the first time I had pulmonary emboli, in 1992. I was hospitalized for 10 days, and the first 7 of those I wasn't allowed to even sit up in bed, let alone get up. Treatment has changed.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 3:01:04 PM

Good God, does the woman have to die to make some people happy?



Honestly, I don't think even that would be enough.

I think the whole idea of this being a hoax is laughable.


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A bleed is quite different. I understand that Mrs. Clinton had a subdural bleed. A vessel in her brain bled and caused a hematoma. It is usually caused by trauma, like a fall.





Actually, according to reports I've read, she did not have a sub dural bleed.

She developed a clot IN A VEIN between the the skull and the brain. A sub dural bleed is in one of the SPACES between the skull and the brain. Quite different.

And the treatment and risks for the type of clot Mrs Clinton has are the same as those for DVT, which commonly develop in the deep leg veins. It is unusual to get this type of clot in the head though, and her injury contributed to this. The treatment goal is to dissolve the clot in the vessel before it migrates and does damage, e.g., in the lungs (PE). At risk patients may also have a filter device inserted into a large vein to "catch" the clots as they move.

Interestingly, with further research, it seems she has suffered a DVT in the past. People who have already had a DVT once are at heightened risk to develop further thromboses.






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Posted: 1/4/2013 4:16:14 PM
Ugh. This is just gross.

I developed a DVT in 2001. It moved to my lung. I have been on blood thinners since plus an open heart/lung surgery to deal with it. Surgery didn't get it all and I on blood thinners for the rest of my life.

The time I spent in hospitals was minimum except for my surgery. That was nearly a month. I went to theER fell into a coma for 4 days. 3 days after waking I was home.

Blood clots of any kind are no joke and I have heard reported nearly 60% of autopsies on unexpected deaths(I could be off there). It pains me to think of SOS Clinton being called a liar/coward after going through that.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 4:21:28 PM

with THIS administration I Have little trust. You guys won't either when were floating down the tube. Oh but of course it'll still be gWb fault. Lol. You make me glad I am no longer a liberal. And thanks for reminding me how the peas are. I have to come every once in a great while to remember why this board is known all over the Internet as the meanest thing around. Lol. See ya in a year or two or three.


Or maybe never? It sounds like you're the one with the problem...not this place. A permanent retreat sounds like it would do you some good. You don't sound rational or balanced.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:46:40 PM

Well I have to agree with some republicans the timing of all this is very suspicious regarding the Benghazi testimonies. I hate the radical republicans as well as the radical Democrats. While I hate their overreactions the Benghazi deal stinks to high heaven!!

Do you honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is afraid of some damned Congressional subcommittee?


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Posted: 1/4/2013 6:03:09 PM

Do you honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is afraid of some damned Congressional subcommittee?


LOLZ...no sh*t. She could eat them all for breakfast, from her hospital bed.

I am rooting for her, hoping for a swift and full recovery.

And 2peas, the meanest place on the internet? You don't get out much, do you?

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Posted: 1/4/2013 6:03:59 PM

Do you honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is afraid of some damned Congressional subcommittee?


LOLZ...no sh*t. She could eat them all for breakfast, from her hospital bed.

I am rooting for her, hoping for a swift and full recovery.

And 2peas, the meanest place on the internet? You don't get out much, do you?

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Posted: 1/4/2013 7:05:41 PM

I'm willing to go with the consipiracy theory, Bengazi proved that our govt truely doesn't tell us everything, and well they don't have to.


Did you really need Benghazi to prove that the government truly doesn't tell us everything?


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Posted: 1/4/2013 7:45:53 PM
my sister had the same clot..sagital sinus? Anyway, she went to the er with a horrendous headache, spent a week in ICU and then another week on the floors while they dialed in her coumadin levels. After that she went once a week to a coumadin clinic. Now, perhaps Mrs. Clinton didn't spend a week in ICU because hers wasn't about to burst, so I'd say that a week is about right.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:05:40 PM
I was a bit concerned watching the news clip of her leaving the hospital. She seemed a little unstable on her feet and looked kind of puffy. I don't think she has looked well for a long time. Honestly with the schedule she has kept and the responsibility she carries it must be difficult to rest. Hopefully she will get the rest she needs at home along with the follow up care.
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