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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:26:42 AM
Sorry it wasn't a Thrusday worthy hair flip on my blog. This won't be either.

many of you will not like what I have to say. That is your issue, not mine.

I left on vacation with my family and did not think about the peas at all after we lost internet service part way through our trip. I didn't even imagine that the peas would have held court and tried and convicted me before I even had a chance to return! But you have and since I am already guilty in the court of the pod, there is really nothing I can say that will make anyone happy. A good friend of mine reminded me that many here prayed for Penny's return and it is to them that I "owe" this post.

Rest assured that Penny was boarded.

Rest assured that my husband and I had a very long discussion about what to do.

You see, as much as we love our animals (and contrary to pea belief we have not killed off an entire litter of puppies or cats this year), we also understand that not every pet is right for every family. Some dogs do not like small children, are skittish around people, don't play well with others, are more aggressive than you thought, are escape artists, etc. It is so difficult when you have a dog that you wonder if it is in fact the right fit for your family. Some shelters have grace periods when you can test run the pet. Some do not.

My husband and I spent much time discussing what was in Penny's best interest. Was it at our home? Was it at another home? Did we have the ability to construct a scenario where she could not get out (apparently a large chain link fence we put up that was against city regulations was not enough)? Tie out leads? How long would it take to train her? What do we do if she were to be out with the kids playing and decide to go over the fence if the kids stopped playing with her? Can we handle losing her again if she were to climb another fence or jump the one between neighbors?

These are just some of the questions we asked ourselves because deciding what to do was hard. Pets are a major responsibility and it is one we do not take lightly. We have not had a revolving door of pets. We have had our Josie for nearly 4 years. We tried to bring inside a cat that had been outside for much of its life when our renters abandoned him. Unfortunately, he did get out and he passed. We cried. I held my oldest daughter as she sobbed over the loss of her friend.

Some of you have asked about Sheldon. I have been in the habit of sharing too much with the peas and not explaining clearly. This time, it was a situation where I did not have the words and did not want to see my words pulled apart over a situation that already made me sick inside. Sheldon was not a good fit for any family with small children. He was not a good fit with unfamiliar people. He was growing increasingly aggressive with the kids and even with Penny. We thought he was asserting himself and trying to be alpha. We were trying to find a trainer who could help us as soon as possible because we were afraid of what might happen. We kept him on a leash and with us all the time. He tried to bite someone. We didn't recognize the signs of a pending bite, if there were any. It was the deal breaker for us. I'm sure some peas will blame us because we didn't have a trainer from day one. Other peas will find fault because we weren't paying "close enough attention" to what was happening or because we didn't try with the trainer after the incident. The bottom line for us, was the dog attempted bodily harm and it was a risk we were not willing to take. When we filled out the forms at the shelter, we told them as much and they agreed.

So, there you have it. Not much of a "hair flip" but I do need to leave peas. I have been posting less and less and it's just time for me to leave. I do not need to get sucked in to other people's lives, pea drama or anything else. I will continue to blog because I do enjoy it very much. And I stand by my statement that negative comments clearly related to what is happening at the pod(especially the anonymous ones) will be deleted. If you don't like what I write or my projects, then don't read it. Pull up your own big girl pants and walk away from the computer. If you find delight in being mean to others, disparaging them for not making the choices you would like, then you have issues I can't solve and neither can anyone else on the internet.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:31:53 AM
Thanks for the update.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:36:40 AM
Thanks for the update. I for one was happy they found Penny. I too have had several posts that I wish I could have just deleted. I am going through something right now and could use some perspective but I WILL not post here because the 2 or 3 vile individuals here who can't say anything nice will outweigh everyone else.

I understand your need to leave. Come back if you feel you can.





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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:42:28 AM


Be well Micki



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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:44:14 AM
I'm sorry you were treated so unnecessarily badly, IMO.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:44:24 AM
So Penny was boarded but where is she now?



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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:46:58 AM
Bottom line, peas will always sit there, and judge, and ridicule, and hate, when they DO NOT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. For, they are the perfect peas, who do no wrong. Here's the thing that so many people forget.

This, is a message board. How you portray yourself? compared to how your life is IRL, compared to how a pea will view what you are typing? Are 3 very different view points. The problem is, there is no tone and inflection in typing. No matter how detailed you are, it's easy to leave so many things out. Let alone, everyone has life experiences that shadow how they percieve things.

Do not let peas like this chase you off. Do not give them the power Micki. Don't let them second judge you, don't let them have any weight on your participation here. I've been here a long time myself, and I know there are peas that probably see my posts and say, "God, I can't stand that woman. " ..... screw em! There are millions of people on this planet, and THEY can go "F" themselves.

And I'm not talking about any pea in paticular who posted on your thread OP, I'm not talking about agreeing or disagreeing with Micki, or Squillen, or Lauren, or any other pea that has been "run off" this board.

But the mob mentality has strenghened in the last few years. It's freakin' pathetic. (again, not saying I agree or disagree w/any pea or thread)




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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:47:00 AM
Good deal, Micki. Come back if you want! I read that crap and saw the usual going on yet again. You've done the best thing under the circumstances. Glad the pup is ok.


When I went to edit my signature, the "Edit Signature" title was spelled wrong. So that was distracting and I forgot what I wanted my new signature to be.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:49:33 AM
So what did you do with Penny?
That question is still unanswered in your post denying and deflecting all responsibility.

The rest of your post is complete bullshit - you are still playing the victim. I also don't believe a word of that Sheldon story.
You do not love and care for animals and you do take your responsibility to your pets very lightly.
Writing that you care about them does not make it true, we see who you really are via your actions in these situations.
You should be ashamed of yourself and I hope you do the animal world a massive favour and never get another pet - you are not worthy.


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No, don't.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:51:57 AM
I always found your posts refreshing to read.
You are very "real".. you don't pretend to be
perfect or have all the answers. Your posts
reflect that life is messy, that crap happens
and you deal the best way can. I hope you
reconsider leaving.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:56:32 AM

So what did you do with Penny?
That question is still unanswered in your post denying and deflecting all responsibility.

The rest of your post is complete bullshit - you are still playing the victim. I also don't believe a word of that Sheldon story.
You do not love and care for animals and you do take your responsibility to your pets very lightly.
Writing that you care about them does not make it true, we see who you really are via your actions in these situations.
You should be ashamed of yourself and I hope you do the animal world a massive favour and never get another pet - you are not worthy.



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Yep. Prime example there. The perfect pea. Who knows everything about Micki's situation and therefore deems herself worthy of telling Micki to leave 2 peas.




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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:56:50 AM
Please, don't ever get another animal.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:57:30 AM

I'm not talking about agreeing or disagreeing with Micki, or Squillen, or Lauren, or any other pea that has been "run off" this board.

But the mob mentality has strenghened in the last few years. It's freakin' pathetic. (again, not saying I agree or disagree w/any pea or thread)




Um...no, squillen and lauren were not run off. Squillen is in hiding and Lauren will step back in whenever she wants to. I've been here 10 years and the "mob mentality" has severely declined. People don't want to get caught up in the catch phrase of the day "bullying" and there's very few call out threads compared to back in the day when a thread could easily go 10 pages on a person.





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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:00:14 AM
I take it from your post that you decided to get rid of Penny. If so, then I am glad she is not in your home anymore. Please don't ever get another pet again. You might like animals and like the IDEA of a pet, but you're a terrible pet owner.




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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:01:45 AM
So, all the reasons that you yourself stated here for not wanting to get a dog pretty much came true. Peas warned you not to get one, for your family's sake and for the sake of any dog you might adopt. But you went ahead and got TWO dogs and now your kids have been through the loss of even more animals. Ad somehow, your post is still full of a victim mentality and no sense of accountability for how this situation ended up.

Uh-huh. No sympathy here, except for the pets.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:02:43 AM
The answers still aren't there ...

Where is Penny?
Where is Sheldon?

If you gave them back or had them put down, wouldn't it be
easier to just say it?
People cared about your pets.

If your family/home situation can't support pets, please
don't get any more animals.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:02:58 AM
I have seen all the bumped posts about you and your various pets and you make me want to puke.

I would never, ever read your Blog, you write like a teenager and I hope that you never, ever have a pet again. I am writing in a way you may understand.

I am not a crazy animal lover but you have taken so many pets into your home then disposed of them, what sort of woman are you?
Are you are Troll or just an idiot, I think both.

I doubt you not being around will affect the Pod much.

I am angry at you and in the morning I might not feel that way, but woman, why so many pets??

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:05:55 AM

Yep. Prime example there. The perfect pea. Who knows everything about Micki's situation and therefore deems herself worthy of telling Micki to leave 2 peas.


Yep. Amazing.

The very peas who will pile on anyone for being "judgmental" are the most horrifically judgmental, unforgiving, bitchy peas in the pod, aren't they?





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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:06:52 AM

I've been here 10 years and the "mob mentality" has severely declined.


I agree with you. This has always been a board with strong opinions, but it's a much kinder and gentler place now than it once was...



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:12:01 AM

I agree with you. This has always been a board with strong opinions, but it's a much kinder and gentler place now than it once was...









Oh that's too funny.....


I totally disagree w/that statement. Although I do, adore this message board and think the good always outweighs the bad on here....

This place is a prime example of mob mentality. Kinder? Gentler? Please.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:12:50 AM

The perfect pea. Who knows everything about Micki's situation and therefore deems herself worthy of telling Micki to leave 2 peas
And you are the perfect example of a pea who can't read & comprehend the written word. I did NOT tell her to leave, she said she was leaving, I simply disagreed with the other person who told her to come back.

I have never claimed to be perfect, but one area in my life that I am pretty damn good at is being a pet owner. Never "lost" a pet, never returned one, never had one escape or run away, never had one run over, heck, never even had a single flea...in 21 years of pet ownership. So yes, I feel I AM qualified to have an opinion on this subject.

As I posted in the other thread, The OP wrote everything herself that I have based my opinions on. I would not know about her not wanting a dog (and then getting two), or losing a cat or losing one of those dogs and giving the other one away, or the shelter calling. I also wouldn't know about the teacher worried about the dirty daughter.
The ONLY reason I know this is because ADD posted this here, herself, voluntarily.
That's where my information comes from and that is what my opinion is based on.
Don't over share every detail of your life and be an attention whore and then flip out when it bites you in the butt.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:13:27 AM
Which is it? You previously posted that Sheldon ran away and found a new family. Your kids' reaction to it were m'eh so he stayed there. Here, you're saying he was getting aggressive. You left this dog with another family knowing he was becoming aggressive? As for penny, it sounds like you boarded her and then gave her up. The update didn't really clarify that. Which is why many people are wondering and speculating.

Whatever you choose to do is your business. You know best the situation and people in it. I only suggest not to share so much. One thing I've learned about peas over the years is that you have to be the perfect pet owner and loving step-parent no matter what. Otherwise, you get raked over coals for the littlest thing.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:15:07 AM
my god, the shitstorm that goes on here when someone mentions a dog. i love dogs. but i also think that people who consider their dogs on the same level as their children are batshit crazy.

i just don't get it.

just ignore them, micki.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:19:01 AM

I'm sure your blog is getting tons of hits now. Mission accomplished.









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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:24:47 AM

As I posted in the other thread, The OP everything herself that I have based my opinions on. I would not know about her not wanting a dog (and then getting two), or losing a cat or losing one of those dogs and giving the other one away, or the shelter calling. I also wouldn't know about the teacher worried about the dirty daughter.
The ONLY reason I know this is because ADD posted this here, herself, voluntarily.
That's where my information comes from and that is what my opinion is based on.
Don't over share every detail of your life and be an attention whore and then flip out when it bites you in the butt.


THIS! A thousand times this! People need to learn you don't need to share everything with the class. While this is a great place to come for support a person needs to really think about what they are going to share with a public message board. There are to many spreadsheet keepers here that just wait for a person to falter so they can throw something in their face. If you have been here long enough you know what the hot button topics are and pets are at the top of that list. So let this be a lesson to you boys and girls, don't over share at the pod.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:25:53 AM

Sorry it wasn't a Thrusday worthy hair flip on my blog. This won't be either.

many of you will not like what I have to say. That is your issue, not mine.

I left on vacation with my family and did not think about the peas at all after we lost internet service part way through our trip. I didn't even imagine that the peas would have held court and tried and convicted me before I even had a chance to return! But you have and since I am already guilty in the court of the pod, there is really nothing I can say that will make anyone happy. A good friend of mine reminded me that many here prayed for Penny's return and it is to them that I "owe" this post.

Rest assured that Penny was boarded.

Rest assured that my husband and I had a very long discussion about what to do.

You see, as much as we love our animals (and contrary to pea belief we have not killed off an entire litter of puppies or cats this year), we also understand that not every pet is right for every family. Some dogs do not like small children, are skittish around people, don't play well with others, are more aggressive than you thought, are escape artists, etc. It is so difficult when you have a dog that you wonder if it is in fact the right fit for your family. Some shelters have grace periods when you can test run the pet. Some do not.

My husband and I spent much time discussing what was in Penny's best interest. Was it at our home? Was it at another home? Did we have the ability to construct a scenario where she could not get out (apparently a large chain link fence we put up that was against city regulations was not enough)? Tie out leads? How long would it take to train her? What do we do if she were to be out with the kids playing and decide to go over the fence if the kids stopped playing with her? Can we handle losing her again if she were to climb another fence or jump the one between neighbors?

These are just some of the questions we asked ourselves because deciding what to do was hard. Pets are a major responsibility and it is one we do not take lightly. We have not had a revolving door of pets. We have had our Josie for nearly 4 years. We tried to bring inside a cat that had been outside for much of its life when our renters abandoned him. Unfortunately, he did get out and he passed. We cried. I held my oldest daughter as she sobbed over the loss of her friend.

Some of you have asked about Sheldon. I have been in the habit of sharing too much with the peas and not explaining clearly. This time, it was a situation where I did not have the words and did not want to see my words pulled apart over a situation that already made me sick inside. Sheldon was not a good fit for any family with small children. He was not a good fit with unfamiliar people. He was growing increasingly aggressive with the kids and even with Penny. We thought he was asserting himself and trying to be alpha. We were trying to find a trainer who could help us as soon as possible because we were afraid of what might happen. We kept him on a leash and with us all the time. He tried to bite someone. We didn't recognize the signs of a pending bite, if there were any. It was the deal breaker for us. I'm sure some peas will blame us because we didn't have a trainer from day one. Other peas will find fault because we weren't paying "close enough attention" to what was happening or because we didn't try with the trainer after the incident. The bottom line for us, was the dog attempted bodily harm and it was a risk we were not willing to take. When we filled out the forms at the shelter, we told them as much and they agreed.

So, there you have it. Not much of a "hair flip" but I do need to leave peas. I have been posting less and less and it's just time for me to leave. I do not need to get sucked in to other people's lives, pea drama or anything else. I will continue to blog because I do enjoy it very much. And I stand by my statement that negative comments clearly related to what is happening at the pod(especially the anonymous ones) will be deleted. If you don't like what I write or my projects, then don't read it. Pull up your own big girl pants and walk away from the computer. If you find delight in being mean to others, disparaging them for not making the choices you would like, then you have issues I can't solve and neither can anyone else on the internet.



I agree that you like the IDEA of pet ownership, but should never have another pet.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:27:32 AM
I am sad for the many animals your family has treated like disposable napkins in the past year alone. Your children have been taught a level of irresponsibility that really defies logic. Everything that goes wrong in your world is always someone else's fault.

All I can hope is that Sheldon and Penny were adopted by caring and responsible families and that yours never brings another pet in again. It seems like your energy is best spent focusing on your children and their many special needs.

As for this:


my god, the shitstorm that goes on here when someone mentions a dog. i love dogs. but i also think that people who consider their dogs on the same level as their children are batshit crazy.


I love my dogs. They are not children. That doesn't mean it's okay to treat them like disposable property. They are living creatures that we chose to bring into our home, not things to be acquired and disposed of at will.





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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:35:42 AM

I read that crap and saw the usual going on yet again. You've done the best thing under the circumstances. Glad the pup is ok.
Seanna, I used to think I had a pretty good idea of who you were, but this astounds & saddens me.
"That crap"? In all seriousness, you think what the OP did with those animals is OK? It is OK to take in animals when you don't really want them and don't have the means to look after them and then just get rid of them again? You also think that after posting all of those details here, that she should just get a free pass and no-one should have an opinion and not say a single thing about it?
And what part tells you "the pup is OK"? ..because I read that post several times and I'm not reading anywhere that confirms she is OK. If she took the other dog back to the shelter saying he was a biter, you know as well as I do that he's probably dead.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:37:33 AM

I love my dogs. They are not children. That doesn't mean it's okay to treat them like disposable property. They are living creatures that we chose to bring into our home, not things to be acquired and disposed of at will.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:47:01 AM

my god, the shitstorm that goes on here when someone mentions a dog. i love dogs. but i also think that people who consider their dogs on the same level as their children are batshit crazy.


I don't own any pets.....well except for a goldish, who is very well cared for, I might add.

But no 4 legged pets.

I don't ever want to have a 4 legged pet. I don't place any animal on the same level as my kids.

*BUT* I still think that the apparent track record the OP has with animals is pretty appalling.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:50:19 AM

And I'm not talking about any pea in paticular who posted on your thread OP, I'm not talking about agreeing or disagreeing with Micki, or Squillen, or Lauren, or any other pea that has been "run off" this board.


Squillen and Lauren were not run off except by their own cowardice and perhaps by the tiny vestiges of decency that exist in their racist little hearts. They made the decision to post vile, ignorant statements and left the kitchen because they couldn't stand the heat, as it were.

Since when is standing up against ignorance mob mentality?

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:51:03 AM
This is all I want to say: I think taking on a pet is a huge responsibility. It's a responsibility. If I had a pet that wasn't working out for me, no matter how bad the situation was, I would only re-home if I knew the family well and was 100% sure that the pet would be even better off at that home than mine. I wouldn't give it to a shelter, I wouldn't have it put to sleep, I wouldn't pass it on to a home I wasn't 100% sure about.

My point is - even if the pet isn't all roses and sunshine as you hoped it would be, you still signed up for that reponsibility. So you have to take good care of it. It depends on you to do that.

If you don't see it this way, then it's unfair to take on a pet. Also, if I adopted a pet, then I would feel even more obligated to keep it no matter what. The way I see it, they already had a rough life and a rough beginning, and laready changed homes at least once. It's cruel to make them do it again.

If you don't feel that you can committ 100% to the reponsibility you choose to take on, then you shouldn't do it in the first place.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:51:14 AM

I love my dogs. They are not children. That doesn't mean it's okay to treat them like disposable property. They are living creatures that we chose to bring into our home, not things to be acquired and disposed of at will.
+1000


My cat is my baby, but she is not my child. However she is a living creature that I took full responsibility for and who relies on me for all her needs, physical and emotional. And I intend continuing to take care of her forever. If I could not make that commitment I would not adopt her in the first place. She is not a toy, not an impulse buy, not disposable. She is a living, breathing, defenseless creature. You don't just get rid of them when they are not a funny kitten/puppy anymore.




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It is so difficult when you have a dog that you wonder if it is in fact the right fit for your family.
You took in not one, but TWO German Shepard dogs to live with you and your 6 FREAKING KIDS, who run around filthy and unattended while you update your Blog and Two Peas all dang day, and you never thought that might be a bad mix?

Let me clue you in on something that is obvious to everyone else. YOUR FAMILY is not a right fit for ANY ANIMAL.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:57:07 AM
My daughter and I have volunteered at an animal shelter for the past seven years. We have seen more stories like this than we can count. Animals that just "were not a fit" and the hard discussions coming after the pet is already in the home. We do our best to educate and support families adopting pets, but there will never be an end to the supply of people who do and believe differently when it comes to animals.

OP, I am happy to hear that you and your husband have spent a lot of time discussing the different pet situations you've invited into your home. That is fantastic. Please keep in mind what you've discussed if there is ever another thought to bringing a future pet into your family. Please. Not every family is a good fit for a pet either. There's no shame in that. Only in continuing to try to make a fit at the expense of living beings and negative lessons for your children.

Have you ever thought of volunteering at a pet shelter? It's been awesome for my daughter and she has learned so much about pets, the animal population, pet ownership, irresponsible pet owners, spaying and neutering, exploitation of animals, etc. It might be a great thing for your family to get involved in together.



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:57:30 AM


And I'm not talking about any pea in paticular who posted on your thread OP, I'm not talking about agreeing or disagreeing with Micki, or Squillen, or Lauren, or any other pea that has been "run off" this board.



Squillen and Lauren were not run off except by their own cowardice and perhaps by the tiny vestiges of decency that exist in their racist little hearts. They made the decision to post vile, ignorant statements and left the kitchen because they couldn't stand the heat, as it were.

Since when is standing up against ignorance mob mentality?


Please, if anyone thinks Lauren and Squillen are "gone" then you are mistaken. They might not be posting but they are still here.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:58:06 AM
I love my dog, but he is not my "baby".

I don't think you have to consider an animal your child in order to care for it properly. It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:59:27 AM

Lauren, or any other pea that has been "run off" this board.


I don't think posting extremely disgusting and racist comments and then being called out on them equals "being run off this board"



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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:59:37 AM

You also think that after posting all of those details here, that she should just get a free pass and no-one should have an opinion and not say a single thing about it?


The problem I see here, is she DOESN'T post all the details. She posts some of the details, then Peas do what Peas have always done...draw their own conclusions, and in this case, based on the OP's past history of NOT posting all the details, the conclusions drawn are negative.

We can all second guess what we think the OP's family dynamic is, or how she feels about dogs and cats, but because she never actually fills in the gaps, we speculate. The lesson should be, if you post your drama here, make sure you tell us everything....or your risk this kind of pile on.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:03:25 AM

Have you ever thought of volunteering at a pet shelter? It's been awesome for my daughter and she has learned so much about pets, the animal population, pet ownership, irresponsible pet owners, spaying and neutering, exploitation of animals, etc. It might be a great thing for your family to get involved in together.


Nicely said, and an excellent suggestion for anyone who isn't sure about how well they will do with a pet in their home.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:04:25 AM
Hi, pjaye! You're one of my favorite people at this place and you always have been. AND you always will be. You might even be my favorite Aussie but I like to keep that open-ended in order to keep things more interesting. Not that anybody cares about that but I keep meaning to say it and so today is the day.

I don't know anything about the other dog. She indicated that Penny was boarded, which seemed to be the actual issue with respect to her "Christmas Miracle" post. Then it turned into the "Micki is a horrible person and here is the proof" show. Anyway, I don't know what happened after they returned from vacation, but it seems illogical that one would board an animal only to come home, pay the bill and take it to be destroyed. So, I'm pretty sure that didn't happen. If it did, I doubt I will ever know. I also don't really think I'm entitled to know more about it than Micki felt like sharing.

I don't think I am capable of being a judge of whether a person I don't actually know in real life should/shouldn't be a pet owner, but a lot of people here sure think they are, so I will leave that up to them.

Beyond all that, I feel reassured in a way that The Machine still rolls on. It's kind of comforting to know that this is how things work. Having rolled over Micki on its inexorable, slow but mighty roll fueled by rage and a sort of group energy that is greater than the sum of its parts, it looks to be slowing now, and eventually despite its general compliance with the law of inertia, it will stop soon, either from running into a wall at slow speed, or just from the combination of perhaps gravity, a slight incline, and the cessation of energy being applied to it. It never stays dormant for too long, though. I kind of dig that, in my own perverse little way. I don't dig that it rolls over people and squishes them quite as flat as it does, but the effect seems to be temporary in most cases and soon enough they are nearly as good as new--and in some cases, better than new.

You will never see me telling people to stop opining, anywhere. That is the antithesis of what I am about. I wouldn't even allow my children to tell each other "shut up" when they were kids.

Hope the kitties are doing well, pjaye. We have gotten an extra one for the time being--my daughter's. She thinks he is something called a Nebelung. He's kind of a dope, and I am delighted. I always wanted a dumb cat. Even my 89-year-old mother, who ignores the cats, has said to my daughter: "He's not too bright, is he? Sorry, Beth!"

Anyway, those are my thoughts and I gave them to you because you asked and out of my great respect for you. Now, feel free to start more awesome threads mocking mason jars as drinking glasses. And happy new year!


When I went to edit my signature, the "Edit Signature" title was spelled wrong. So that was distracting and I forgot what I wanted my new signature to be.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:08:42 AM
And once again, Julee shows herself to be pretty much one of the best things about Two Peas. I know how important this issue is to her, and look how gentle and helpful she was just now. She's pretty much a rock star and she totally doesn't think so. Which makes her more of a rock star, of course.


When I went to edit my signature, the "Edit Signature" title was spelled wrong. So that was distracting and I forgot what I wanted my new signature to be.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:28:34 AM
I think having four rather major pet situations in a year is a pretty big indicator that maybe having pets isn't right for your family. And, we still have no idea what happened to Penny. Penny was "boarded" but Micki has become an "unreliable narrator" and I really don't know that I buy that. She doesn't have to care if I do or not.

Micki didn't have to share all this shit. She opted to and then opted not to update. I live in Ohio. It's not all arm pit. She could have updated. She didn't. She had Internet to update her blog Facebook page. But not here. Why? You cared enough to run here and post about Penny ASAP and get people concerned and then play the FU I have a life card. It's ridiculous.

People judge you, or better or worse, by what you put out there. If you spend a year detailing how poor of a pet owner you are, that your child's school is contacting you because you're not sending her to school clean and there's a major problem with every other educational establishment your kids have attended, people start piecing shit together. They draw conclusions. You don't get a say how they do that.

Please, Micki, don't get any more pets. Particularly not dogs. Please. It's traumatic to these poor animals to be treated this way, and while adorable shelter dogs make great blog fodder, please just don't. If your ADD is preventing you from being organized for your children's sake, it's time to treat it. It's not fair.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:36:05 AM
ADD - Can you please just answer one question? Where are Penny and Sheldon?? Penny was boarded, but did she go back to be adopted out, or did you take her home? And did Sheldon go back to the shelter, or did he stay with the neighbors?



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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:36:10 AM
So, wait. Which dog was the one that wound up at some other family's house? The one that now is the biter?

Dude, I'm so confused.

All I know is that I suspect a LOT of lying is going on around this whole situation. This is part of the reason I don't read mommy/housewife blogs. I think they create a fantasy life that is mostly fiction. It's just weird.

Bye, OP. Don't get any more pets.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:36:17 AM
With all due respect Seanna, you wrote that you thought she did the best thing...do you really think what she did with those animals was "the *best* thing"? How do you know it was the best thing? I think you are attributing a lot of credit where it hasn't shown to be warranted.
Do you genuinely believe that?

I don't think I am capable of being a judge of whether a person I don't actually know in real life should/shouldn't be a pet owner, but a lot of people here sure think they are, so I will leave that up to them.
I am happy to be counted as one of 'those people'.
Much of the time I really enjoy reading people's posts about their pets and you are right in saying that in many cases I have no idea if they are really good pet owners or not but I sure as hell can spot some of shitty, irresponsible owners based on what they post themselves and what they choose to post about and the words they use. That's not exactly rocket science.
"my husband wants a dog and I don't...look we got TWO dogs...now 5 months later both dogs are gone"
Yeah, I don't need a psychology degree or a vet degree to know that's a giant f*** up.


I know how important this issue is to her, and look how gentle and helpful she was just now.
I agree. That was 100x nicer than I am ever capabale of being in this situation. Mistreatment of animals just provokes anger in me.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:39:34 AM

So, wait. Which dog was the one that wound up at some other family's house? The one that now is the biter?

No, that was another dog, before these two. It got out of the yard and followed some other kids home, happy to receive the attention it was not getting with ADD's family (that is what SHE said, not me filling in any blanks). Later, ADD & her husband discovered where the dog was and left it there.

I don't think she has shared what happened to Sheldon, the biter. ETA: Whoops, I was confused. Sheldon was taken back to the shelter.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:49:41 AM

I don't think she has shared what happened to Sheldon, the biter.


Sheldon was taken back to the shelter for the aggressiveness and biting.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:53:43 AM
Ok, so the first dog went to the neighbors, Sheldon went back to the shelter...

ADD/MICKI - Can you please let us know what happened to Penny after she was boarded?? I do not want to add to the pile-on, but this would all die down if you could please just answer the question. Thank you.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:55:26 AM

The bottom line for us, was the dog attempted bodily harm and it was a risk we were not willing to take.
When we filled out the forms at the shelter, we told them as much and they agreed.

This is what happened to Sheldon, he went back to the shelter.
Don't know that particular shelter's policies, but I do know that many shelters here will put a dog down if it is returned for biting a child.
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