YEARS ago there was a Pea who's cat stopped eating ... Anyone remember who?

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Posted: 1/4/2013 12:20:36 PM
I remember the story and that the cat finally got better. Anyone remember this and who the Pea was? I have a friend who's cat has just stopped eating and the vet can't find anything wrong with her. Just wondering how this story turned out.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 12:44:31 PM
That might be me! About 3 years ago, our beloved kitty Boots decided to go on a hunger strike after we returned from a 10 day vacation. He's a very nervous kitty so we were very concerned about leaving him to begin with. We hired a neighbor to come over and feed/pet all the animals so their routine wouldn't be messed up.

When we returned all the animals were stoked to see us including Boots. The first day he ate and ate but then he just stopped and slept all the time. He slept and slept and slept and when he was awake he would just look at us with this vacant stare.

We called the vet, even took him him. Nothing was wrong, they couldn't find a thing except a humongous bill.

FINALLY after a week of him sleeping and moping around he just stopped. We woke up one morning to him meowing (something he hardly ever does anyways), we went outside and his food dish was empty so we filled it up. He ate and ate and ate. Loved all over us and would not let us out of his sight. We called the vet to update him and he said that sometimes cats (especially nervous natured cats) would do this.

Happy to report he's still going strong. He's overcome some of his nervousness but still jumps at every sound and runs and hides when someone new comes around.

BACK STORY on Boots. My youngest DS wanted a cat for Christmas about 4 years ago, it was all he asked Santa for. DH finally relented and about 5 days before Christmas I started looking. I found an ad on Craig's List where someone was giving this one away. I went and looked at him and almost didn't take him because he was such a scaredy cat. I told them that I would give them a call, it didn't take me long I wanted that kitty.

When I went to pick him up, the man told me about how they found him. Some person (and I use that term very loosely) had tied his paws up and his neck using his collar along with his 3-4 other siblings and threw them all out the car window as he sped down their road. The man was out working in his yard when it happened. Boots was the only kitty to survive. He still will NOT wear a collar. He's absolutely the BEST cat we could have asked for. He drools a lot when petted, he doesn't meow loudly, he runs at every noise but on the flip side he's extremely loveable not only to us but to our dog. (Although they put on a good act when we're home I've caught them on tape snuggled up one day when it was raining and cold and we weren't home.)


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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:12:58 PM
Could have been me or another poster.

When my first cat Kiri had chemo for mammary cancer the first cycle made her quite sick, I kept trying to give her different foods and she would throw up. I made a big mistake by doing that.
In the wild if something makes an animal sick and vomit, then they avoid that food in the future.
I managed to make her averse to all cat foods.
She lost a lot of weight. I decided to try 'kick starting' her appetite and syringe feed her ...the idea is they get a full stomach and then as it empties it promotes the feeling of hunger. The plan was to do that for several days.
It didn't work. She never ate again and I 'assist' fed her for the next 3 years.

The issue with cats not eating is that they very quickly develop a condition called hepatic lipidosis, which is a complex biological reaction where fat accumulates in the liver and it is often fatal.
The "cure" is to feed the cat, having food stops the disease.
You can read more about it HERE
Kiri was just starting to develop this when I started force feeding her and with our vets help we managed to stop it. many cats need to have a feeding tube inserted, but Kiri was a placid cat and I could syringe feed her.
She went into remission from her cancer for the next 18 months but eventually it came back and she died age 16.

Just after I lost Kiri another lady posted here...and I forget her name, but possibly Tracy? Her cats were called Bert and Ernie.
I am pretty sure it was Bert who had the problems.
She posted that he had stopped eating and her vet wasn't being very proactive in treatment. I told her about our experience and about feline hepatic lipidosis and encouraged her to pursue a feeding tube for Bert ASAP.
That's exactly what she did, Bert was tube fed for several months if I remember correctly, he put all the weight back on and then started eating normally again and the tube came out.
I think he lived for many years after that eating normally.
(edited: Bert is still alive and well)
I don't think I have seen her post in a while.

I hope that helps.
The attitude of many people is that "the cat will eat when it gets hungry" is not always true, cats who develop this condition (and it can be from as little as a week of not eating properly) can and will starve themselves to death. It needs quick action, and the cure is food.
Let me know if you have any other questions.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:57:55 PM
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Posted: 1/5/2013 12:33:29 AM
The pea Pjaye is talking about is JoEllen, although at the moment I can't think of what her Peaname is and don't see it listed as her name.
Ill send her a message on FB though and ask her to pop in here if she can to see if she can be of some help too, although Pjaye gave you a lot of advice


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Posted: 1/5/2013 1:35:37 AM
Yes, JoEllen!
I can't believe I forgot her name - sorry

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Posted: 1/5/2013 1:39:40 AM
Thanks for directing me here Kelly!

I did post years ago about my cat, Bert, who stopped eating. We never found out the reason why, though. Our best guess was because he was on an antibiotic (clavamox) at the time and it might have made him nauseated. For some reason he associated eating with the nausea and decided to simply stop eating.

I am still thankful to this day for Pjaye and her encouragement, without it I am pretty sure we would have lost Bert.

We took him to the vet who basically said when he gets hungry enough, he'll eat. This could not have been farther from the truth. Cats can and will become anorexic. The idiot vet almost cost us the life of our cat. What was even worse was that Bert was almost 20 lbs. and became sick with hepatic lipadosis almost immediately. What happens is that cats can't process fat like humans do. When he began starving himself his body began using his fat for energy, but unlike us, his liver has no way to process the fat and eventually clogs up and shuts down.

After our initial vet visit we followed our gut and sought help online. We were directed to a yahoo group on "assist feeding" or force feeding. We purchased a food called AD at our vet (ad stands for anorexic diet) and made a slurry out of it and force fed Bert with a syringe. Without a doubt this is why my cat survived.

After assist feeding for a few weeks and Bert still not getting any better we found a specialist that did a biopsy and confirmed that Bert was in liver failure. He put in a feeding tube through the wall of Bert's stomach and we fed him through his feeding tube for six months. With the help of the specialist we taught Bert how to eat again. It was a long, expensive road but it worked.

This was in the fall of 2004. I am happy to say that Bert is now 16 1/2 years old! Like Pjaye said, sometimes you will never know why they stopped eating, the important thing is how you deal with it, especially if it's a chubby or fat cat like mine was.

I would be glad to answer any questions you have (or your friend) and help in any way I can. I hope her kitty starts eating soon!


Jo Ellen


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Posted: 1/5/2013 1:46:27 AM
Hi JoEllen!
So happy you popped in.
I thought you had posted once that Bert had passed away, so glad I wrong!!
Glad to hear is is still alive and well and 16 years old, what a great outcome.
Any chance of an updated photo for his online 'aunt'?...lol
Any new additions to your cat family since you were last here?

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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:36:13 AM
I did post about a year and a half ago when our youngest kitty, Martha, died. We had her since she was a few hours old and hand raised her. She died in Aug. of 2011 of (suspected) bone cancer.

Anyway, I am always happy to share pictures of my "kids"! Here are a few of Bert and one of Ernie for good measure!







Jo Ellen


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Posted: 1/6/2013 3:18:53 AM
What beautiful cats!

Cats cannot go long without eating, they will het very sick and die, my 14 year old cat has had a few bouts with force feeding, when sick and on antibiotics. Thankfully, she has so far bounced back and ate on her own once well, but you must be vigilant and be sure they ear. It's not at all like dogs, who will never starve!

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Posted: 1/6/2013 3:26:36 AM
I remember that face and those eyes!
What handsome boys.
I see that he certainly returned to his former glorious self...lol he doesn't look like a cat that ever refused food.

I think my newest one Millie may end up with a 'well rounded' shape in years to come, she is completely obsessed with food. She spent her first 3 years in a house with 3 other cats and I think she was at the end of the food queue, so she is making up for it now.
Thanks for the photos JoEllen it's great to see them both looking so well.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 7:17:09 AM
My kittie stopped eating and the vet prescribed a medication that would stimulate his appetite. I can't remember the name of the medication, but it really helped. We would also feed him baby food when his appetite was off. He was an old guy (20 yo) and really needed to eat or he would become dehydrated and would have seizures.




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Posted: 1/6/2013 8:51:31 AM

The issue with cats not eating is that they very quickly develop a condition called hepatic lipidosis, which is a complex biological reaction where fat accumulates in the liver and it is often fatal.


In my cat's case it was fatal. Happened the same way. Obese cats are more prone to HL. I know so much more now than I did before our awful experience, even though I'm a lifelong cat owner. I was unaware of HL. By the time we did the feeding tube our guy couldn't recover (also had a smaller than average heart and the stress was too much).

I would never take a cat's sudden anorexia lightly.

Nicole

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Posted: 1/6/2013 9:05:02 AM
Thanks pjaye and JoEllen. I remember Bert's story. So glad he is still with us! Happy to report that my friends cat, Isis, was at the vets for a few days on IVs and she came home Friday and ate 4 or 5 bites of food!

Ann

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Posted: 1/6/2013 10:20:25 AM
Helpful thread...I am hoping I won't have to deal with this but with four kitties, you never know.


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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:44:32 PM
Thank you for this thread. I have never heard of this condition before, but I'm afraid my cat is slipping into it as he hasn't been eating for two days. I remembered reading it a couple of weeks ago, since our cat stopped eating dry food and would only eat wet food. Tonight we were able to get him to eat a little bit of canned salmon in some cream sauce and some treats. We hope to get him to the vet tomorrow, but ours is closed and gave us an apologetic, "cats can die if they don't eat for 3 days". We would have gone sooner but my husband has had the flu and Pepe won't travel in the car without someone holding him. Any tips on the syringe feeding? I have extra syringes for baby medicine that have never been used, but what is good to feed them? He will drink tuna juice and chicken broth, but only if my husband basically hand feeds him by holding the bowl for him.
I think we have decided to cancel our next trip to the Caribbean because we are terrified he will go on a hunger strike for anyone else. It would be sad not to go, but even worse if our beloved Pepe were to die while we were away.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 1:38:52 AM
I don't have a cat, but a couple of years ago my very small dog stopped eating. The vet showed me how to force feed her and gave me a tube of Nutri-Cal. It's a supplement for dogs and cats and helped get some vitamins and calories in her until I was able to get her eating a normal amount of food.

ETA: your cats are beautiful JoEllen!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 1:58:14 AM
I learned something new today, thank you Peas.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 2:35:10 AM
Thanks, we will try the nutri cal if we cannot get into a vet tomorrow. Poor Pepe, I haven't been able to sleep because I'm worried about him!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 3:08:31 AM
The nutrical won't really help, it's basically corn syrup with vitamins and half a teaspoon only has 10 calories.

The thing about syringe feeding is that you need to get quantity into them, one or two teaspoons isn't enough...and trust me they don't like being force fed one little bit.
You can use any good quality cat food (although the most appropriate ones will be the ones you can buy at the vet, which won't be much help if they are closed..but Hills A/D is the most used), the mushy ones are obviously easier to work with. Water it down so you can draw it up into the syringe.
The first time I fed Kiri I had her wrapped in a towel, go in the side of the mouth and squirt across the tongue - not straight down the back of the throat, doing that could make them choke or gag. Squirt in about 1 ml at a time, let him swallow and repeat.
If you are using the small tins, you need to get at least a quarter to half in at each feed, do that every 4 hours while you are awake.
When I assist fed Kiri - she's get two of those small tins per day.
If he vomits it up then I wouldn't continue and go to an emergency vet instead, as that is probably a signal that something else is wrong.

It's not easy, I remember after Kiri's first feed I was covered in cat food and was so frustrated that I was in the bathroom crying.
It got easier as we both got used to it, after a while I was able to do her complete feed in about 20 mins including the clean up.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:39:15 AM
Thanks for the info -- I didn't know anything about HL. I'll file it away.

JoEllen -- I remember your cats, Ernie has a really distinctive look -- I'm glad to hear they're doing well.

The only experience I have with a cat not eating was the guy in my avatar, Percy. He was really sick with some sort of infection a few years ago. He was only 2 at the time, and I've never seen such a sick animal. He stopped eating and the vet prescribed a really stinky food. I managed to coax him into eating bits of it. Fortunately, a couple rounds of antibiotics cured whatever was going on.

It's so awful to have a sick animal. I don't know how vets do it -- when your patient can't tell you what's wrong, it's so hard to make a diagnosis.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:56:09 AM
Thanks pjaye, there are other vets in town so we will try another one and I found a website that shows how to feed and clean them. Hopefully we can get him to eat now that my husband isn't so sick. Unfortunately with them both sickthe same time it was hard for me to get Pepe to eat.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:29:24 AM
we had a cat that died in 2010 that did this twice. the first time, it seemed his teeth was bothering him and he just stopped eating. he got fatty liver disease that time. he had to be forced fed 3 times a day, and then our vet suggested giving him vitamin b injections along with fluids daily for awhile. I think it was a week. She showed us how to do it at home, and within a couple of days he started eating on his own again.

the second time we thought it was fatty liver disease, but turned out to be cancer. we did the fluid/vitamin injections at home again and kept him healthy for a couple extra weeks, but he did die pretty quick.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:00:06 PM
Just an update, the vet checked him out and we have to get blood work and tests back, but she thinks he couldn't smell his food and was congested. His liver is looking fine, and she can see that he is aging, arthritis and some asthma. She hydrated him and showed us how to syringe feed him. He had thrown up, but will take food via a syringe, so hopefully we can turn this around. Thanks all for the help!


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