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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:20:01 PM
I am finally starting to scrap old photos of my family. I have been trying to do a bit of research on each one and include what information I can glean from the internet. My father was in the AAF and then the USAF, first stationed at Eglin then Clark then McCoy. I have this photo of my father with his crew (he is the one in the middle with the shadow on his cap on his face just to the left of the letter . I seem to remember that he worked on B-52s and, by the time he was retired, he was a Chief Master Sargeant.

Anyone recognize this plane they are standing in front of and/or can tell he his rank? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Janet

This may be way huge. I haven't used Photobucket in ages.



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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:50:40 PM
His rank in this photo (if I'm looking at the right person) is Staff Sgt.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:12:27 PM
He would be an E-5, ARMY, NOT AF as I first said! Geeez, I am blind. Staff Sergeant. Will take a look at the plane next. I am too old to do two things at once!

Okay, I am fairly certain that is a Buff (B52), however, I cannot be 100% due to the angle and crop. Sorry! Cool pic, though! Thank you for sharing!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:19:36 PM
I am not sure if that is a BUFF or not. Do you know the approximate year the photo was taken?

My dad spent 27 years on a B-52 - I'll shoot him an email and see if he can help us!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:28:58 PM
My husband said in this photo he is still AAF because of the rank on his arm being Army rank. E-6 Staff Sgt. is correct.

After WWI the AAF was demobilized and lost numbers. That is when the push for the Air Force to be bigger began.

Good luck!!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:29:51 PM
I sent the photo to my dad. He said it is a B-52. The nose of the plane to the right. Those windows above the number are the co-pilot area.

He said they must have been working on the propeller because it is removed. It fits where that giant "nut" is with all of the chain. There's a cap that fits over that "nut", also missing from the plane in the photo.

(And, this is far more that I ever wanted to know about a B-52.)


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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:43:35 PM
Don't know a thing about it but I love it!! Old photos draw me in

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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:59:09 PM
I am leaning more towards a b-29. I just don't think that plane is big enough for a BUFF and the 52s have jet engines- not props.

Of course, I am not an expert, no matter how hard my dad tried to get me to follow the family tradition!


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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:02:49 PM
Y'all are the best! I think this was in the mid-50's? I was born in 1953 and I believe it is probably from Eglin. There is a stamp on the back of the photo that says AAF. Don'tknow when he moved from AAF to USAF.

One of my fondest memories is of him bringing home HUGE inner tubes and blowing them up in our back yard and jumping on them like a trampoline.

Thank you all so much. I am going to a retreat this coming weekend and plan on scrapping old photos. So excited!

Janet



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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:23:39 AM
His rank at the time of the picture is a Staff Sergeant.

Here's a good link to wiki. It includes links to the different types of planes.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:28:50 AM
Here's a link to a way to look up the aircraft serial number listed on the plane. web page

I believe that the "BD" at the beginning of the aircraft number designates a bombadier group.

If you have any pictures of the plane with the full number, I believe that the plane can be looked up on-line.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 6:40:15 PM
This is KSUHeather's Husband,

Your father is a Staff Sergeant in the US Army Air Forces standing in front of a North American B-25, circa 1945-1947.

In 1947 the US Air Force was created. Because the rank is still Army, I think the picture dates from before that. Your dad and crew have removed the propeller on the engine. The number behind your father on the aircraft BD-936 is a buzz number.

After World War 2, many USAAF/USAF aircraft used markings that would make it possible to identify low-flying aircraft from the ground. Purpose was to discourage low passes (colloquially known as "buzzing" over ground points. Hence the buzz number.

The system used two letters and three numbers, painted as large as practically feasible on each side of the fuselage and under the left wing. The two letter code identified the type and model of the aircraft, and the three digits consisted of the last three numbers of the serial number.

B indicates Bomber. According to this website http://www.aerofiles.com/buzz-tails.html, BD stands for a North American B-25. Picture matches a B-25 but with the cockpit and nose cut off.

Also see http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/usafserials.html

Let me know if you need help with anything else.



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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:10:57 PM
KSUHeather! Your husband is awesome. This has been bugging me all day!!! Thank him for clearing this up (and it wasn't even my question LOL, I was just curious!!!)

I love stuff like this. Lucky for me in the future, my dad was only ever on 1 plane, so if it is a pic of him and a plane, I know what it is! LOL


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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:16:42 PM
He loves going down rabbit holes to figure this stuff out. He said if anyone else needs him to post it and he'll track the info down.



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Posted: 1/25/2013 5:33:12 AM
Wow, I am completely blown away! I have been trying to track some specific information because I am scrapping this photo this weekend.

Heather's husband, thank you so much for this information. I plan on adding specific information to my layout.

My father died in 1995 so I cannot ask him all these things. I have a photo of him in Paris during WWII with the Eiffel Tower in the background. I would love to talk to him about this and ask him questions. All I can say is appreciate your parents, talk to them, get their stories before they are lost.

Again, thank you peas (and your hubbies and daddies!).

Janet



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Posted: 1/25/2013 6:32:44 AM
I'm glad dh could help. He loves researching this stuff.



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Posted: 1/25/2013 7:19:11 AM
buzz numbers

B-25 Mitchell plane

B-25 units

Planes of the past

If you can locate where he was stationed around the time the picture was taken, you can then figure out which bombadier company was stationed there. Using that information, you may be able to identify on-line their reunion group.

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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:14:08 AM
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