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 BethAnneM Hermetically sealed for your protection PeaNut 95,504 July 2003 Posts: 7,413 Layouts: 0 Loc: Cali Baby
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ex LAPD on shooting spree
This man was fired from the LAPD and he has an online manifesto stating he will be killing police officers and their families.
This all started with the shooting of a young Irvine couple at their apartment complex. Turns out the female was the daughter of the officer that got this crazy fired.
Overnight he shot at officers here in Corona just a few miles from my house and he killed an officer in Riverside which is up the freeway from Corona.
I almost didn't send my son to school today but last we heard they don't believe he is still in this area. |
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 maryannscraps Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 75,215 March 2003 Posts: 6,395 Layouts: 2 Loc: massachusetts
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I saw that this morning. How totally sad for one of your own to turn on you like that. This guy is evil -- going after families. I hope he's caught really soon. | |
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 Jangran Serendi-PEA-ty Storyteller PeaNut 16,712 June 2001 Posts: 13,335 Layouts: 989 Loc: PA /FL
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That is really scary for all the families of officers and very sad that he has been able to carry any of this off. i hope they catch him soon. |
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 Luvnlifelady Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 289,166 December 2006 Posts: 17,349 Layouts: 7 Loc: Southern California
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That is very sad. The young couple had recently gotten engaged and their whole lives ahead of them. I hope they find him but take him out in the process. |
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 Cynthiascraps BucketHead PeaNut 163,901 August 2004 Posts: 794 Layouts: 0 Loc: Sunny So Cal
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We've been up since 4 am when the news broke. Praying for all law enforcement and families and praying they arrest him before more are lost. |
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 auntkelly BOOMER SOONER! PeaNut 142,266 April 2004 Posts: 8,205 Layouts: 0 Loc: Texas
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I heard about this on the news this morning. I hope they catch him soon. |
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 busypea boring + nerdy PeaNut 52,817 October 2002 Posts: 25,217 Layouts: 145 Loc: Oregon
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So scary. And I also just saw that two civilians in Torrance were accidentally shot by police during the manhunt.
I hope they catch him soon. | |
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 PEArfect AncestralPea PeaNut 452,048 January 2010 Posts: 4,497 Layouts: 0 Loc: Indiana
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How sad for all of the families involved. I hope they catch him soon. |
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 lovetodigi Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 257,022 April 2006 Posts: 7,673 Layouts: 5 Loc: Metro Atlanta
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That is so scary. I hope they catch him soon and no one else is hurt or killed. So sad for the family of the couple that was killed. The father is likely to never forgive himself, it is just human nature, even though there was no way that he could have foreseen this coming. He did the right thing to get the guy fired, and now he has lost his daughter. I hope that they catch the creep and take a lot of time to make him regret being born, before they kill him. I am against violence in most cases, but then there are some where it is just called for.
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 scrapper100 Budletsmom PeaNut 65,877 January 2003 Posts: 12,553 Layouts: 30 Loc: So CA
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I hope they catch him soon and he doesn't hurt anyone else. He is thought to be in my city and I am not happy about that. There are just too many crazies in the world these days. |
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 peanuttle PeaAddict PeaNut 136,677 March 2004 Posts: 1,053 Layouts: 0
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My mom said she thought they said he may be in San Diego. I am getting a little nervous. I didn't even know anything about it until my mom called a little while ago.
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 Luvnlifelady Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 289,166 December 2006 Posts: 17,349 Layouts: 7 Loc: Southern California
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I didn't know about him maybe being in San Diego. We live in north county. I don't usually condone violence either, but this guy has got to be taken out.
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 BethAnneM Hermetically sealed for your protection PeaNut 95,504 July 2003 Posts: 7,413 Layouts: 0 Loc: Cali Baby
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Yes, the most recent reports have his truck being spotted in San Diego County but I am not sure which city. He needs to be taken out. |
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 TREZmom Lost and Found in Pea-land PeaNut 138,098 March 2004 Posts: 5,818 Layouts: 2 Loc: NC but wishing I was somewhere else
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This is so and tragic. | |
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 Cynthiascraps BucketHead PeaNut 163,901 August 2004 Posts: 794 Layouts: 0 Loc: Sunny So Cal
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They found his wallet and bag of police type items near Linberg (sp) field. Allegedly he also try to rent a boat to sail to Mexico. |
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 ilovebuble StuckOnPeas PeaNut 539,539 January 2012 Posts: 2,484 Layouts: 0
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I've been watching breaking news all morning, the victim of the attempted boat jacking was an 81 year old man . They are saying on the news that he is in good spirits.
They are sending a fleet to the marine training camp near Lindbergh Field in San Diego. I'm anxious, my father works on the Navy base in that same area. Everyone is on high alert. | |
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 Peabay Happy now? PeaNut 156,993 July 2004 Posts: 44,683 Layouts: 13 Loc: Connecticut
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It's like a bad movie! How awful!! |
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 grammanisi peaing from my beach room PeaNut 142,772 April 2004 Posts: 8,925 Layouts: 3 Loc: Northern Indiana...Fighting Irish Country
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How scary. Are there any more updates? |
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 ilovebuble StuckOnPeas PeaNut 539,539 January 2012 Posts: 2,484 Layouts: 0
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They are sending out a fleet of officers out of the base on Point Loma. I'm watching live and there are tons of officers assembling with large guns and the breaking news reporter on the scene was sent away because it is too dangerous for her to be there.
The suspects car has a DOD sticker on it and that gives him access to any military base, and he has access to military uniforms. | |
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 Dani-Mani PEAdiatric pea PeaNut 15,872 May 2001 Posts: 17,640 Layouts: 3 Loc: USA
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I have a mutual friend in common with this guy. By all accounts, he really was a great guy that everyone loved.
So sad for all involved. |
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 mzza111 PeaAddict PeaNut 57,891 December 2002 Posts: 1,652 Layouts: 2 Loc: Orange County, CA
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What's tragic is the LAPD getting trigger happy and shooting innocent victims because their car "looks" like the suspects car! THat's what happened in Torrence this morning.
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It also left officers extremely jittery. According to a senior law enforcement source, two people were wounded when officers in Torrance, California, opened fire on a blue pickup truck after it pulled up in front of a house where they were guarding a fellow officer Dorner had allegedly named as a target.
The truck -- which turned out to be a newspaper delivery vehicle -- resembled the truck Dorner is believed to be driving, the source said. Police also shot at another blue pickup in that city, but no one was injured in that incident, the source said.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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 lucyg819 pearl-clutching nitpicker PeaNut 201,774 April 2005 Posts: 14,375 Layouts: 15 Loc: gone to chemo with BethAnne
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Holy sh*t!! I'd better turn on the news! |
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 Annabella Leads a Charmed Life PeaNut 43,843 July 2002 Posts: 42,259 Layouts: 46 Loc: East Coast
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I'm shocked he's upset over something that happened 4 years ago. He was only a police officer for 3 years, so it's not like this was some long career he had.
According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans. Dorner said that in the course of an arrest, Evans kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.
Following an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.
Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer.
So does this mean he was telling the truth but was fired unfairly "for making false statements". |
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 flutterbymom PeaNut PeaNut 89,164 June 2003 Posts: 397 Layouts: 2 Loc: Southern California
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BethAnneM - I also live in Corona and my DDs school is on kind of a "lockdown". I was there volunteering, but hadn't heard about the shooting in Corona until the teachers told me. I had heard about the shooting in Riverside. Scary. |
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 Cynthiascraps BucketHead PeaNut 163,901 August 2004 Posts: 794 Layouts: 0 Loc: Sunny So Cal
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Sunday night (the night the young couple was killed) he spent the night at the Point Loma Naval base. He never checked out. Base just went off lockdown after search for him ended. |
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 Cynthiascraps BucketHead PeaNut 163,901 August 2004 Posts: 794 Layouts: 0 Loc: Sunny So Cal
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Wow!!!! Now a high speed chase. Can't confirm if its related to manhunt. |
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 Enough BucketHead PeaNut 553,030 April 2012 Posts: 515 Layouts: 0
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So does this mean he was telling the truth but was fired unfairly "for making false statements".
I'd like to know the answer to that.
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 reneelcla BucketHead PeaNut 278,786 October 2006 Posts: 698 Layouts: 0
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The father of the female that was killed with her fiance was not the one responsible for the ex-cop getting fired. Her father actually represented him in the proceedings that ended with him being fired. He probably blames the father(who is now an attorney) for losing his job.
See this from the article: "That former police captain had represented him during the disciplinary proceeding that led to his firing."
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 purpledaisy Calm PeaNut 116,261 November 2003 Posts: 25,157 Layouts: 102
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That is so sad! |
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 CrysTvsky PeaNut PeaNut 430,613 July 2009 Posts: 215 Layouts: 0 Loc: Southern CA
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Possible sighting of the suspect's car in Big Bear. They are watching a car fire off a dirt road. | |
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Irvine Unified just sent out e-mails telling parents that they have assigned extra officers to several schools in the district because targeted officer's children attend them. Wow. Now everyone is starting to freak out. What a nightmare! |
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 CrysTvsky PeaNut PeaNut 430,613 July 2009 Posts: 215 Layouts: 0 Loc: Southern CA
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Bear Valley School District in Big Bear is on lockdown. No immediate threat, just pre-cautions.
SWAT officers with sniper riffles are sweeping the area of the car fire. Scary! |
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 Jenncr8s PeaNut PeaNut 336,594 September 2007 Posts: 436 Layouts: 0 Loc: So Cal
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Hawkeye... which school are you at? My son is at Woodbridge and I teach in the Northwood area. It is just crazy! |
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 Mewcat AncestralPea PeaNut 465,849 April 2010 Posts: 4,741 Layouts: 0 Loc: Southern, CA
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Yep it is scary! They are live in Big Bear right now investigating. |
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 BethAnneM Hermetically sealed for your protection PeaNut 95,504 July 2003 Posts: 7,413 Layouts: 0 Loc: Cali Baby
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That crazy man gets around. I just saw the reports that he is up in Big Bear. I REALLY hope they get him and soon! |
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 *Delphinium Twinkle* I'm just a pea:) PeaNut 163,613 August 2004 Posts: 68,340 Layouts: 236 Loc: *Sunny Southern California*
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I just saw the report that he's I'm big bear too. I think they closed all the schools. |
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Anderson Cooper tweeted this at 6 pm est
@andersoncooper: Learned today suspect Christopher Dorner sent me a parcel at CNN. Inside was a note, DVD, and a coin shot thru with bullet holes.
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 HawkeyeGal StuckOnPeas PeaNut 11,524 February 2001 Posts: 2,723 Layouts: 51 Loc: Southern California
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Hawkeye... which school are you at? My son is at Woodbridge and I teach in the Northwood area. It is just crazy!
We are at Westpark Elementary. Didn't they have extra officers at Woodbridge today? So scarey! |
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 Toni Alexis StuckOnPeas PeaNut 370,678 April 2008 Posts: 2,758 Layouts: 1 Loc: Digging my half of the tunnel to Leanne's house.
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My fiancee has been out all day involved in the search. He just called to say that he wouldn't be home until after 10pm tonight.
He's a detective and dresses normally day to day. I forget sometimes that his job is dangerous. And then days like this happen and I sit here watching the news all day hoping this whack job is caught or killed so my Det. can come home. |
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 SandraG PeaNut PeaNut 29,753 February 2002 Posts: 264 Layouts: 0 Loc: So.Cal
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This guy is scary as hell! He is an officers worst nightmare! Cops know they will be put in the line of fire but this guy is killing their families. He wants their wives and children dead!
So far they haven't been able to stop him! Very jittery cops indeed. He is hunting them, while they are hunting him.
He is way too close to home. I won't be able to rest until he is dead...period.
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 SandraG PeaNut PeaNut 29,753 February 2002 Posts: 264 Layouts: 0 Loc: So.Cal
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Toni... I've been in your shoes. I was married to a Police Officer for 19 years. I hope I didn't say anything to add to your anxiety.You don't need any more of that today... I'm sorry. This guy obviously has me freaked out a bit too.
Hopefully they get him and your fiance will be home soon
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 Toni Alexis StuckOnPeas PeaNut 370,678 April 2008 Posts: 2,758 Layouts: 1 Loc: Digging my half of the tunnel to Leanne's house.
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He is hunting them, while they are hunting him.
This is especially troubling. It makes me nervous that he will be using the same training that those who are looking for him will be putting into use to find and apprehend him.
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 sheltieluvr PeaFixture PeaNut 414,014 March 2009 Posts: 4,164 Layouts: 0
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What a horrible situation. I hope they find him soon. Praying all law enforcement stays safe. | |
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 Jenncr8s PeaNut PeaNut 336,594 September 2007 Posts: 436 Layouts: 0 Loc: So Cal
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Hawkeye... which school are you at? My son is at Woodbridge and I teach in the Northwood area. It is just crazy!
We are at Westpark Elementary. Didn't they have extra officers at Woodbridge today? So scarey!
Small world. I live over by South Lake. A good friend of mine teaches TK at your school.
I was very worried about the high school and very worried about the family that is being guarded. I ended up texting my son, but he felt safe and decided to stay. |
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 desertpea StuckOnPeas PeaNut 359,474 January 2008 Posts: 2,272 Layouts: 41 Loc: Moving!
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Did you read his manifesto? Left wing nutjob.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cartâ€. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.â€
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.
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 NativeNewYorker black eyed pea with soul! PeaNut 15,878 May 2001 Posts: 24,966 Layouts: 70 Loc: LI, NY
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That's horrible. Too much violence in the world today. |
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 desertpea StuckOnPeas PeaNut 359,474 January 2008 Posts: 2,272 Layouts: 41 Loc: Moving!
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 ktNryansmom *REDEYED PEA* PeaNut 51,842 October 2002 Posts: 13,295 Layouts: 189
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Apparently he's in Big Bear now---it's a huge weekend where the resorts are offering great promotions for police and fire depts...
Scary! |
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 jenettycakes76 Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 268,853 July 2006 Posts: 5,885 Layouts: 19 Loc: Ca Girl!
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We just miles from the awful Riverside shootings. I had to drive there this morning for dental work...very surreal to drive up and be detoured as other local police from neighboring cities (Highland) armed and holding the blockade strong. As my dentist was working on my teeth, her HUSBAND came on to give a statement, Paul Zellerbach local DA. Her recanting of being woken at exactly 3 am this morning and from then on. My husband's childhood best friend is our newly-elect Mayor so they've been in communication a few times.
My Stepdad has a police scanner, never knew this before, so they were passing details to us all day such as a home on Silver Glen the dogs tracked to & so forth. Compelling and chilling to hear what they are telling us as they hear it.
The dental office I was at was 2 blocks from the shooting in Riverside. I have no words but do believe this scum has a suicide mission and I fear there will be more deaths when they apprehend the sob...
ETA - was half asleep when posting last night so incomplete thoughts/sentences were due to that. We've heard from my Mom of multiple shots heard in the Forest Falls area. Praying no more injured except himself if need be. |
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