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BEF2008
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Every time there is a question for "grammar peas" and it's a spelling or punctuation question, I ask myself, "Is that still considered grammar??"
I always thought the rules of grammar meant the rules of sentence construction. I can see where that might include punctuation, but spelling??? | |
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gottapeanow
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Spelling is considered part of grammar. 
Fwiw, I have a degree in El. Ed. w/ a minor in English and work as a freelance writer.
Lisa
ETA: If you consider the use (misuse) of "too, to and two," it might be easier to see how spelling should be included with grammar. The entire meaning of the word changes with the misspelling of some words. | |
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Kelli/Mom
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I see "grammar" as being how words and punctuation come together to communicate.
Spelling and punctuation play a large role in grammar. | |
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Dalai Mama
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dottyscrapper
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I always thought the rules of grammar meant the rules of sentence construction. I can see where that might include punctuation, but spelling???
I agree with you.
Spelling in any language isn't part of the rules of grammar.
To me, grammar is a set of rules that makes a particular language easier to understand to the listener or the reader and that includes punctuation. There's a few other rules such as not starting a sentence with a co-ordinating conjuction etc. but mainly it's about understanding what is said/read.
Listening to an American speaking english and a Britain speaking english is no different even though both countries have different spellings for the same words......Color/Colour still means the same and grammatically that conversation can still be understood.The same would be true of reading material from both countries.
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gottapeanow
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| Posted: 2/8/2013 3:40:33 PM
There's written grammar. And there's oral grammar. There are differences. Spelling is part of written grammar. Not oral grammar.
In oral grammar, it doesn't matter if you say "too, to, or two."
In written grammar, it does. It's a misspelling. And it's poor grammar.
I wouldn't begin to attempt to correct British grammar. Apples and oranges and all that.
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benem
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 | Posted: 2/8/2013 3:51:00 PM
I can see where your question comes from. I think of grammar as syntax and construction.
Then again while I can spell really well... my grammar is for crap. |
"We are NSBR. We talk about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.
Diva Cups Merkins Tub Girl Crock Pots Kitten Heels The Hoff HOF Obama Bush Kardashians Shopping Carts Shopping Trolleys Dead Aunt Cookies Trolls Not Trolls Garden Snakes Snails Stripper Poles with or with out Birds In-Laws Scoff-Laws Blogs Borg Paint Colors Dinner Books and Each Other"
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dottyscrapper
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| Posted: 2/8/2013 5:09:13 PM
In oral grammar, it doesn't matter if you say "too, to, or two."
In written grammar, it does. It's a misspelling. And it's poor grammar.
I wouldn't begin to attempt to correct British grammar. Apples and oranges and all that.
There is no difference in oral grammar to written grammar.
The examples you quoted are pronounced the same way but have different meanings and uses.
Two is always the number
To is used with verbs in their infinitive form
Too is used with adverbs and adjectives.
The spellings might be different but the grammar rules of the English language is the same be it American or British! It's not a matter of apples and oranges at all.
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AmeliaBloomer
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| Posted: 2/8/2013 8:16:15 PM
I always thought of the word "grammar" as a synonym for "syntax," but I could be wrong.
Many of the questions here probably fall under the broader category of language mechanics, which can include grammar, usage, style, spelling and punctuation.
And then there's "transformational grammar." I once took a whole course about it, but would be hard-pressed to define it. (I'll take Grammar Girl over Noam Chomsky any day...)
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Ginger_64
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| Posted: 2/8/2013 8:34:14 PM
To me, grammar is a set of rules that makes a particular language easier to understand to the listener or the reader and that includes punctuation. There's a few other rules such as not starting a sentence with a co-ordinating conjuction etc.
Not starting a sentence with a coordinating conjunction is not a rule--that's a perfectly acceptable thing to do.
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