Teens should not hide outside my bedroom window at midnight...
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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:31:16 AM
I think they were playing late-night unsupervised neighborhood hide-and-seek because they seemed to be hiding in the bushy trees right outside our windows, peeking out looking for their buddy...facing the street and not really looking in or near any property like our cars.

When the dog growled and didn't hush when told to, we knew something was up. DH got out of bed and looked out and saw a young teen boy and a tiny (possibly preteen) girl. They were about 12 inches from our bedroom window so DH smacked the glass right by their heads. Ha! I hope it scared the pee outta them. They screamed and took off running.

Sheer adrenaline prompted me to get dressed and take the fierce guard dog out (all 17 lbs of her).

I stood in the front yard leaning against my car until I saw the little shits walking back up the street where they would pass my house. They spied me about twenty yards away, but they had to keep on walking by at that point to avoid suspicion.

I let the dog stand out there and growl and huff at them while they passed on the other side of the street . . . avoiding eye contact and probably sweating bullets.

Then I calmly called them in to the cops with a very precise description.

I hate getting startled awake like that, so it serves 'em right. Besides, they were far too young to be out at this hour unsupervised.

I hope they are returned home soon. And I hope they remember not to hide in my yard again. Jerks.

Sharing this little anecdote has at least given me enough time to stop shaking and slow my heart rate back to normal! Perhaps I can get back to sleep now!



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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:46:13 AM
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Posted: 2/9/2013 1:11:30 AM
The only difference between what you did and what I would do is that I would typically know the kids.

Dh and I would pass on calling the cops and call their parents. Some of the parents work nights, so I'm very sure they'd be interested in knowing their kids are outside running around.





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Posted: 2/9/2013 1:57:07 AM

Then I calmly called them in to the cops with a very precise description.
Where they actually breaking any laws, or just annoying you? I would not have called the police on them for playing later than I thought they should. I remember well that age and it was a treat to be able to stay up late on Friday/Saturday and be outside after dark.

Yes, times have changed, but still, I wouldn't bother the police if the kids weren't breaking any laws.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 2:04:15 AM
I have to say, it sounds like they were enjoying some good clean fun. It may have freaked you out, but that certainly weren't trying to annoy or scare you. They may have been inconsiderate and a little loud so late at night, but were they being destructive at all? I can't figure out why you called the cops either.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 2:08:43 AM
Yeah, I think calling the cops was a little over the top. I probably would have just told them to get away from my bedroom window.

I agree, I was a kid once. I did stupid stuff at night once in a while. Isn't that what stupid teenage memories are made of?




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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:06:51 AM

Then I calmly called them in to the cops with a very precise description
The police have better things to do.



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It's 6:30AM here and I have a group of men running up and down the street throwing snowballs at each other. We didn't even get that much snow- about 2" with ice. I took my 100lb dog out front to stare at them when they started running around my lawn/garden. My bulbs are coming up. My dog was not impressed with them.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 6:21:16 AM
You called the cops?? You're wound pretty tight, aren't you?

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Posted: 2/9/2013 6:52:21 AM
I had that happen a few years ago. The teenage morons decided it would be a good idea to have a neighborhood airsoft game. I looked out my window at 11 pm and saw someone in my bushes holding a gun. Yeah, I called the police. The adrenaline kept me up all night.

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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:33:19 AM
Around here the teenagers like to play a game called cops and robbers. Kids hide in driveways, around houses and in bushes while a friend drives real slow through the neighborhood looking for them. Harmless fun? Maybe. But is scares me to death that they are going to get shot by a homeowner that thinks they may be trying to break in.

Even more annoying is that several of my friends have asked them to get off their property, only to be told no.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:33:40 AM
Around here the teenagers like to play a game called cops and robbers. Kids hide in driveways, around houses and in bushes while a friend drives real slow through the neighborhood looking for them. Harmless fun? Maybe. But is scares me to death that they are going to get shot by a homeowner that thinks they may be trying to break in.

Even more annoying is that several of my friends have asked them to get off their property, only to be told no.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:45:19 AM
Around here the teenagers like to play a game called cops and robbers. Kids hide in driveways, around houses and in bushes while a friend drives real slow through the neighborhood looking for them. Harmless fun? Maybe. But is scares me to death that they are going to get shot by a homeowner that thinks they may be trying to break in.

Even more annoying is that several of my friends have asked them to get off their property, only to be told no.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:45:32 AM
Around here the teenagers like to play a game called cops and robbers. Kids hide in driveways, around houses and in bushes while a friend drives real slow through the neighborhood looking for them. Harmless fun? Maybe. But is scares me to death that they are going to get shot by a homeowner that thinks they may be trying to break in.

Even more annoying is that several of my friends have asked them to get off their property, only to be told no.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:50:17 AM

Where they actually breaking any laws, or just annoying you?

You mean besides trespassing and breaking curfew?

I actually would have done the same, and I'm easily one of the least uptight people about this kind of thing. It's not safe, in my area, for kids that young to be out doinking around the neighborhoods at that hour. I would rather have them returned to their parents in a police car at 1am, than to see their faces on a missing children poster, or see them returned in a body bag because they startled a neighbor who thought they were prowlers.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:51:50 AM
I think I would have just opened my window and asked what they were doing. Clearly they were harmless.
Them I would have told them other great places to hide too


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:52:04 AM
I think I would have just opened my window and asked what they were doing. Clearly they were harmless.
Them I would have told them other great places to hide too


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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:01:17 AM
Honestly, if I heard someone under my window, my dog would be barking the house down and I'd be calling the police. I live alone, and wouldn't mess around.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:01:49 AM
It sounds like "harmless fun" to me too, but I also think that you have to be really careful with "harmless fun". It can disrupt your neighbors, it can make other people feel uneasy - hiding in bushes at night on someone else's property is just a bad idea whether its harmless fun or not. It isn't really appropriate.

Maybe I am just an old stick in the mud, but I don't think I would want my teenager running around in other people's yards at night. What happens if someone gets shot, bit by a dog, hit by a car, breaks a leg tripping in a groundhog hole, assaulted, or blamed for a crime they didn't commit because they were roaming where they shouldn't be? The logical consequences of that activity are potentially significant.

Also, in my neighborhood, we had one family in recent years that attracted all kinds of unsavory behavior. Their teenagers roamed at night, made a lot of noise, left litter such as beer bottles and used condoms on the community playground. There was a rash of car breakins and a bit of petty theft. It all stopped when the kids quit roaming at night and that family moved out. I would certainly call the police if I suspected that kind of behavior was even possible. Kids roaming unsupervised at night tend to get into mischief. This is a quiet family neighborhood and I'm not interested in some unsupervised teenagers ruining it for everybody else.

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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:03:47 AM
I think banging on the window then going out there with your dog probably got the point across sufficiently well.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:19:33 AM
Normally I wouldn't call the police, but if I heard something in the bushes by my bedroom window, and my dog was growling and/or barking at something, I would probably call the police too. I would be terrified someone was trying to break in.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:26:00 AM
I was with ya until the police call. Banging on the window and going outside was sufficient. And if I felt it wasn't, I would have said something specifically to them as they were slinking by.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:33:50 AM

breaking curfew?
How do you know there is a curfew? Not every city/town/community has one.

It isn't really appropriate.
This I agree with, but I still don't think it was a matter to involve the police with. Esp since by time she called them, the kids were on their way.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:36:05 AM
Scaring the hell out of them by rapping on your window? Fun and due justice for waking you up.

Calling to cops? Over the top.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 10:03:23 AM
I knew there would be varying opinions on the cop call. My husband was on the side of 'harmless fun' too, and he probably wouldn't have called them.

But I called for a few reasons, not the least of which was because it's mardi gras weekend with drunks on the road, in a high-traffic subdivision, after curfew, so I do believe their safety was at risk.

I chose to call the cops when I saw them meeting an additional kid near an access road that runs between two houses...one of which is a group home for the developmentally disabled. I can imagine the chaos that might've ensued if they'd decided to lurk outside the windows of that home!

Bottom line...for me, it was the right decision. It's not ok for them to rile up my household, wake my family from sleep, and then possibly do that all over the neighborhood.

Had I know them, or their parents, I would've contacted the parents instead. But I didn't, so I called the police non-emergency line and asked them to check it out if possible.

Sure cops have better things to do, but I'd rather give them the opportunity to reign in some inconsiderate teens than to investigate one being hit by a drunk or shot by a panicked homeowner.




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Posted: 2/9/2013 10:03:52 AM
I'm going to sit with candleangie on this one. I don't think calling the cops is inappropriate - it's up to them to decide whether they're too busy to respond.

Is it really okay to have people on your property in the bushes right up next to your house?? Being an urban dweller, I wouldn't have that situation. However, if I heard people next to the house while visiting my folks, I'm pretty sure I'd call the cops - but maybe that's my frame of reference from living in the city.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 10:15:11 AM
Good thing in this wasn't in Texas. They could have been shot and the homeowner would have been justified by Texas law.

I'd have called the police.

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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:50:06 AM

Scaring the hell out of them by rapping on your window? Fun and due justice for waking you up.

Calling to cops? Over the top.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:56:31 AM
They were trespassing at night near someone's window, calling the cops is not over the top and the least of their worries.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:59:35 AM
In my area, they could easily have been shot by a homeowner.

I hope they were scared enough not to do it again.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:00:07 PM
They're just kids FFS. Fine, point a gun at 'em and call the cops and alert their parents and make sure they get picked up for curfew and trespassing violations and that they AND their obviously inadequate parents are publicly shamed.

Or, scare them and let it go. UNCLENCH.

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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:11:22 PM
Yup I totally need to unclench if someone is prowling on my property after midnight near my bedroom window. FFS how about if people control their children instead. I am sick and tired of the excuses some make for kids. I have a right to peace and quiet in my own home.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:56:08 PM
I'd call the cops! Once I'm asleep I hate getting woke up! It makes me fussy




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Posted: 2/9/2013 1:11:30 PM
If they were out late at night and that far in on your property, obviously they are not making good decisions. Calling the police may not have been a bad idea. It sounds like they either needed a scaring or an education. I hope they got what they needed.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 1:20:20 PM

I'd call the cops! Once I'm asleep I hate getting woke up! It makes me fussy


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Posted: 2/9/2013 1:22:33 PM
Last time I checked trespassing is a crime people.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 2:22:16 PM
We've had a rash of car break ins and slashed tires in the neighborhood. I'd be calling the cops if it happened here.




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We've had a rash of car break ins and slashed tires in the neighborhood. I'd be calling the cops if it happened here.




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Posted: 2/9/2013 2:33:09 PM
I probably would have waited for a second offense to call the cops.

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Posted: 2/9/2013 3:09:42 PM
I might have called the cops but you felt safe enough to go outside and stare them down? I don't know that I believe you called for their safety. I am more likely to believe you called because you were irritated.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 3:13:24 PM
I think I would have called the cops if someone had been outside my window in the middle of the night, and aggravating my dog, especially if they woke me up. they might be up to harmless fun, but what if they weren't?

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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:04:37 PM

think I would have called the cops if someone had been outside my window in the middle of the night, and aggravating my dog, especially if they woke me up. they might be up to harmless fun, but what if they weren't?

Normally I would agree. However she felt secure enough to go outside and stare them down.. She wasn't afraid for her families safety.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:08:13 PM
Once you knew it was young kids playing around outside you knew you weren't in danger. I would be more likely to have called the cops when I first woke up and knew someone was outside my window. Once your DH had scared them and you stared them down to call the police is over the top. I would be more afraid they'd know who turned them in and my house would be covered in eggs.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:11:23 PM
I would have absolutely called the police. They are old enough to know better.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:39:16 PM

Yup I totally need to unclench if someone is prowling on my property after midnight near my bedroom window. FFS how about if people control their children instead. I am sick and tired of the excuses some make for kids. I have a right to peace and quiet in my own home.

I agree with you, scrappower. If you think I am clenchy because someone is prowling in my bushes late at night, so be it. But the clenchy owner of the property doesn't want anyone on it, for a variety of reasons, one of which is that those twits were trespassing.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:09:46 PM
I don't understand how calling the police was wrong.

It is only the op's assumption that they were harmless. We really don't know what they were doing. Lurking that close to someone's home is not a good idea and my guess is that the kids think it is funny that the home owner knocked on the window so no lesson learned. Maybe the police had more of an impact.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:26:50 PM
Calling bullsh!t here. If you heard noises and felt there could be a potential break in or felt in anyway threatened then you would have called the police immediately.

You and DH obviously knew it was neighborhood kids up to mischief or you would not have gotten dressed and gone outside with your 17 pound dog.

I think what you did was just as immature as the kids.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 6:08:15 PM

I agree with you, scrappower. If you think I am clenchy because someone is prowling in my bushes late at night, so be it. But the clenchy owner of the property doesn't want anyone on it, for a variety of reasons, one of which is that those twits were trespassing.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:00:08 PM
I live opposite a high school which suffers more than it's share of vandalism. Our local police are always asking residents to contact them if we see or hear anything, or if there are groups of kids roaming at night.

Our across the street neighbour has no fences and several times we've spotted young kids (teenagers) coming out of his yard late at night. It's usualy 1 kid, while his mates are waiting on the footpath. They could be innocent, maybe relieving themselves in the bushes, but they could also be checking the place out. We ring the neighbour and let him handle it.

OP, they have no right to be in your yard (or anyone elses) even if they are only playing. I think you did the right thing calling the police. And what if one of them falls and breaks a leg. Their parents would probably sue you.


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