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Posted: 7/27/2013 12:54:49 PM
I just read on a health website that aspartame, more specifically if you drink 4 diet drinks a day....will cause you to gain weight.

this might not be new news to lots of you, but I guess the brain thinks it is sugar.

also, Splenda (the yellow packets) are processed with chlorine, and it gets dumped into the waterways, causing harm to fish. I realized this a while back, and I have used natural sweeteners.

My favorite is Stevia or Truvia..plant based. it doesn't convert to fructose or sucrose. it's just neutral ..and I watch my sugar intake.

hope this helps someone!

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Posted: 7/27/2013 1:01:40 PM
Even though Stevia and Truvia are plant based they still go through a "refining" process that isn't exactly environmentally friendly. You may want to research them a bit more.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 1:01:58 PM
I've decided to forgo any of the calorie-free sweeteners. I drink unsweetened iced tea when I go out. If I absolutely must have a soda, I stick to no more than twice a month and then get one that's got sugar. Since I've started doing this, I don't have as much of a sweet tooth as I used to. I also really notice when things are sweeter than they should be, like Pizza Hut's crust.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 1:04:43 PM
I don't use sweet&low, splenda, stevia, truvia, etc. My preferred sweeteners are honey and agave. They are both natural and don't go through the refining process like truvia and stevia do.



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Posted: 7/27/2013 1:12:41 PM
I read on this list that agave turns to sucrose. I was really in to it at first, but then I changed my mind.

Also, I don't crave sweet/sugar any more so I can easily drink an ice tea that's unsweetened.

diet coke had been a craving in the past for me and DH

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Posted: 7/27/2013 1:43:20 PM
Aspertame causes seizures as well. That's some truly nasty stuff and if you do a tiny bit of digging, you'll probably come to see that it really should never have been approved by the FDA.






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Posted: 7/27/2013 2:11:27 PM
After years of suffering, I realized that aspartame (nutrasweet) in the diet soda I guzzled was causing my horrible migraines. I avoid all artificial sweeteners now. If I want something sweet I have the real stuff. FYI, I didn't gain any weight when I stopped drinking diet soda.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 2:12:03 PM

I have to read all labels now because companies are constantly changing their ingredients and slipping aspartame, sucralose, and stevia into the product with no warning.
Yes, and this REALLY pisses me off.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 2:21:19 PM
Artificial sweetener is the devil! I agree that you really have to read labels closely because sucralose is advertised as a "natural sweetener" a lot of times. Artificial sweeteners are 100 times "sweeter" than real sugar and your body reacts by producing insulin just as it would if you were consuming sugar. But, there's no sugar there for the insulin to process so your body craves carbs. That would be why diet soda makes you gain weight!
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Posted: 7/27/2013 2:35:38 PM
the Yoplait fat free yogurt has Splenda, I believe. And I need a magnifying glass to read their label. Not good.

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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:28:51 PM
Maple syrup/sugar is an excellent natural sweetener. It is full of minerals and antioxidants. Yes, it is more expensive, but Costco sells it for less than I've seen anywhere else, including maple sugar which they sell in a 500 gram (1 l container. That's the only ingredient, is maple syrup.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:38:16 PM
I've been struggling with finding asperteme-free gum. If anyone has a lead, please let me know.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:43:42 PM

I've been struggling with finding asperteme-free gum. If anyone has a lead, please let me know.



Spry brand is sweetened with Xylitol. It is available at health food and natural food stores. I like it - and Xylitol is supposed to be good for your teeth.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:48:50 PM

Why not just real sugar? Avoid all the artificial foods and chemicals that you can.

The bottom line is any sweetness triggers a response in your body. A response that can lead to overeating and unhealthy conditions.

I'd rather stick to real foods and try to reduce sugar consumption overall.








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Posted: 7/27/2013 4:22:07 PM
I wish I could get my hubby to quit drinking diet drinks. He pretty much only does so when we go out but it is just so bad for you. He uses splenda at home and I don't buy diet or really any sodas except for if we have a party and most people really don't drink it so I think I may quit buying it even for that. I hate having the leftovers.

I am so glad I quit drinking soda. I only drink it less than once a month and think it is just too sweet. I put raw sugar in my coffee and occasionally I will put just a touch of agave in my ice tea but less than half a teaspoon as it is just so sweet. I still get plenty of sugar but I feel better knowing that I have cut it way down from what it used to be.

Also I know a lot of people think oh I will quit drinking soda and then switch to juice - sorry just as much sugar there so it still isn't good for you.

I do wish our food labels were easier to read and I really wish they would quit putting so many artificial colors in things we don't need them. I would also love to know what has GMOs in it. I am trying to make healthier choices but it shouldn't be as hard as it is. Artificial sugar makes its way in to a lot of things you don't expect just like HFCS avoiding that is almost impossible if you eat any processed food (trying to avoid it but it isn't always possible).


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Posted: 7/27/2013 4:37:01 PM
My Gastroenterologist told me years ago that aspartame causes so much gastric distress that he would get rich off it. I only drink sodas will real sugar in it and avoid all artificial sweeteners.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 4:44:28 PM
I agree with Spongemom. I go with natural over artificial!!

After doing some research awhile ago and finding out about the dangers of aspartame, I quit drinking soda altogether. Once you've done that it doesn't take long at all for you to quit craving it. And when you try it again a month or two later it tastes terrible!

I love coffee and have it everyday. I still use a teaspoon of sugar in every cup, but I weigh less now than I did when I was drinking soda.

You can buy Natural Stevia at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's that comes in a bottle with a dropper. It has not been through the chemical processing. I did try that once when I was trying to get rid of the sugar in my coffee. It tasted so bad, that it wasn't worth it to me. But it is available.

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Posted: 7/27/2013 5:21:21 PM

I've been struggling with finding asperteme-free gum. If anyone has a lead, please let me know.



Spry brand is sweetened with Xylitol. It is available at health food and natural food stores. I like it - and Xylitol is supposed to be good for your teeth.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 5:32:36 PM
I've also switched to full fat dairy products. Most fat free or low fat yogurts have artificial sweeteners. I've found that organic yogurt is sweetener free. I just add my own fruit. Lower fat products usually have more carbs. Just like real sugar, our bodies are better able to process real fat.
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Posted: 7/27/2013 9:25:42 PM

I don't use sweet&low, splenda, stevia, truvia, etc. My preferred sweeteners are honey and agave. They are both natural and don't go through the refining process like truvia and stevia do.


Agave is highly processed and is similar to high fructose corn syrup.

Stevia is far less processed. Truvia, my understanding has added ingredients.


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Posted: 7/27/2013 11:26:16 PM
What does Truvia have in addition to Stevia and Xylitol?
I've been using it for years now .
To me, sugar isnt a good alternative. I stopped eating white sugar years ago for the most part.
Now I'm learning more about high glucose foods.

Thanks for the info about the loft yogurts. I pretty much only eat Fage but last week I didn't have a choice a couple of times. That Yoplait tasted strange.

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Posted: 7/27/2013 11:39:45 PM
I pretty much just don't use sweeteners at all, for myself (a little honey in baking). For some things, like ketchup (which I don't eat but everybody else does) we get the kind with real sugar rather than some of the other options.



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Posted: 7/28/2013 12:39:39 PM
I agree with LottaPea:

Artificial sweetener is the devil! I agree that you really have to read labels closely because sucralose is advertised as a "natural sweetener" a lot of times. Artificial sweeteners are 100 times "sweeter" than real sugar and your body reacts by producing insulin just as it would if you were consuming sugar.

Secondly, just because it's "natural", doesn't mean it's healthy-- think marijuana and tobacco.

I suggested on another thread to watch the you tube video "The Bitter Truth". Eye opening.

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Posted: 7/28/2013 12:57:12 PM

I've been struggling with finding asperteme-free gum. If anyone has a lead, please let me know.



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I don't so Spry. A friend uses it because it has Xylitol (which is deadly to dogs) - I reacted to it.
I even react to Splenda.
The only stevia I can use is if I grow it in my own yard. Anything from the stores has binders added during the processing. I don't know if the allergy is the process, the binders, or what, but I can't use any of them. And the binders aren't considered "food" so the FDA doesn't require them to be listed in the ingredients.

Thank you for the reminder about Maple Syrup/Sugar - I do use that as well. Plus, I also get Molasses granules, basically molasses raw sugar. It is pretty awesome, and really not that expensive considering.


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Posted: 7/28/2013 1:29:57 PM
I fall into each one of these threads because I do consider myself a victim of aspartame. My mom was just trying to do right by us giving us sugar free products as a kid, but I ended up totally addicted to Diet Coke. I would get facial tics in the morning until I had one. My consumption was extreme. (and before anyone thinks it is caffiene I have never given up coffee) My mouth would feel weird without the diet coke. We actually had a name for it in our house "I need a little diet coke mouth clean".

I also suffered from daily headaches from about age 12 till the day I quit. I then was medicating that with OTC pain relievers on a daily basis, adding a rebound effect to things. I blame this cycle for an early miscarriage that devastated me. (OTC pain relievers are a huge early risk for this)

So then I get pregnant and I get diabetes. Insulin dependent diabetes. That did not go away after I gave birth. Then my dad got diabetes, then my mom and my brother. We have zero history of this in our family and we were not lightweights but not morbidly obese or anything either. The one thing we had in common was a addiction to nutrasweet and had been consuming it for the same amount of years.

So I quit. It was the hardest thing I ever have done. Like after school special heroin detox for two weeks. Like a train had hit me. If it was making my face tic and causing so much pain to be off of, what in the hell was it doing to my body all these years? After I finally got off it I have never had a daily headache again. (things happen but we are talking DAILY vs a couple times a year) It turned off like a light switch, the difference could not be more stark and clear that aspartame was the cause. My dad suffers from "benign Parkinsons"...shakes all the time, and refuses to believe Diet Coke could be the cause although it is a known side effect. Won't even give it a chance to see just because god forbid you live without your calorie free sweet fizzy water. My entire relationship with food changed. I do not get sweet cravings or hunger for food the same way. I truly believe you can't tell your body something sweet is coming in, deliver a foreign chemical and think good things are going to happen to your system. When I was at the point when I was having to check my sugars I would notice that the more diet drinks I consumed the harder it was for me to control my blood sugar. They market this to diabetics and I think it is criminal.

So between giving up diet coke and a low fat vegan diet (I do have moments of treats and I like beer quite a bit ) I totally reversed my diabetes, am maintaining a 120 lb weight loss and look younger than all my similar aged peers in my friend group. My family that still consumes diet coke are all on diabetes meds, my younger brother has almost died from pancreatitus twice and is now on an insulin pump...and I still get made fun of at family gatherings. But at least I have my good health to smooth over any lingering resentments, I am the only one left that can lead any type of active lifestyle. Plenty of people will tell you they can have one or two and be just fine but I don't accept any BS chemicals in my body anymore just for the purpose of flavored water. I feel stupid for ever taking the risk.


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Posted: 7/28/2013 5:01:07 PM
Have you looked into or tried Palm kernel sugar or coconut sugar?
They're the same thing.
Totally delicious, but it tastes more like brown sugar.
It also doesn't cause your blood sugar to rise and fall like regular sugar


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Posted: 7/28/2013 5:12:38 PM
June- your story is amazing. Don't let your family get to you.
I'm just beginning a weight loss journey after probably beating diabetes. I'm testing normal with diet now. Don't want to get back in denial.


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Posted: 7/28/2013 6:22:47 PM
Love your story, June-Cleavage. My diabetic parents are pushed to consume sugar free products like crazy, by their doctors and nutritionists as well. It makes me sick.

I'm still very addicted to sugars, but I will not consume artificial sweeteners. I'm really good at label reading now.

My biggest problem currently is that when I am extremely tired, I have zero control over my diet and I crave comfort foods from my youth, which are usually full of sugar and/or gluten, and probably heavily processed.

Because of my travel schedule, there are an average of 6 days a month that I get less than 4 hours of sleep. Unless I can force myself to fall sleep in the next few hours, tonight will be one of those nights. That just ruins any healthy eating plan I have in place. On top of that, when I cycle back into a depression, I don't even care to try. I'm cycling out at the moment, and working on ways to get more sleep on travel days.
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