OK, You're a Runner. Get Over It
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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:03:40 PM
Apologies if this has already been discussed I did a search but we all know the search function here isn't great.

Have you read this WSJ article? What did you think? I am a runner and I learned to only talk about my races and running if asked. And I realized that once I made the switch I have very few opportunities to talk about it! I wore a 26.2 and a 13.1 bumper sticker on my car for a few months after completing my first races but I took them down. So if you are a non runner are you tired of hearing about every mile from your runner friends? Or is it just like any other hobby that you don't have and you just tune it out?


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:07:42 PM
I know some people who have to regale me with every mile run; and others that I didn't even know were runners.

My friend posted that article to FB because her husband is a crazy runner. Seriously insane. The guy who gets up at 4:30 or 5 in the morning to run if he has a busy day; the guy who'll run at midnight if that's the only way to get a run in. She insists that he talks about it non-stop; I've not experienced that with him when we've socialized. I will say he's the most fit person I know - for a 40 something guy, he looks like a 20 year old.



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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:13:57 PM
Let me preface this by saying I am a weightlifter and a jogger. So I exercise a lot.

However, YES it is stinking annoying when some people think you want to hear all about their runs. We get it: you exercise. You love it. But you are coming off like show-offs, people!

To a lot of people, the exercise talkers are braggers. To them, all that running is something they wouldn't do and they don't get it. They may even be jealous, but who knows. I know I used to be before I lost weight and got fit.

Like you, OP, I try to only talk about it if someone asks. I could talk about lifting all day long haha! But I don't.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:14:34 PM
I tune it out.

I have bad knees, I don't run. That's my excuse anyway.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:14:39 PM
I feel the same way about some people who do yoga. I don't need a blow by blow of everything you do.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:14:50 PM
It doesn't bother me at all to see a bumper sticker on your car or a facebook status about your current run. I think the author of that article is grouchy. I am not a runner. But honestly, it is motivating to see people start up running as a hobby or form of exercise. I think - way to go, I should do that (alas, I don't!)

As far as the bumper sticker idea, what difference does it make to me if you advertise, your hobby, your favorite team, your religion, your political affiliations, how many cute stick kids you have or what honor roll your kid has made. I could care less if you cover your entire rear end with bumper stickers - gives me something to read at red lights! I have zero bumper stickers or window decals on my car because I don't care for them but you can do whatever you please. I am certainly not offended by other people having them (well, usually, I guess I am offended by some ). Same goes for apparel. You wear your running shirt and I'll wear my Minnie Mouse shirt and we will live and let live, ok?

Congrats on your races by the way



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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:16:15 PM
I don't want to hear about every mile a runner or cyclist puts in. Nor do I want to hear about every move a yoga-ist makes... or every new sensation a pregnant woman experiences for her first time.

If you obsess over it your audience is probably done with the topic.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:16:50 PM
I run for fun and I'm a pretty slow one at that. Now if I ran a marathon, you can bet I'm telling EVERYBODY about it!


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:20:27 PM
I agree with the article. I'm so over the running "phenomenon" that seems to have taken over the nation. I think it definitely has to do with social media and the need for validation. If someone was running, just for health reasons and didn't boast about their accomplishments, I would have a TREMENDOUS amount of respect for them. But that's rarely the case, IME.

I feel the same way about the yoga obsession.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:23:28 PM
I don't see it being any different than any other sport. I see the 26.2 or the 13.1 stickers and say good for them. It's no different than the breed stickers we have for our favorite dog breeds or sports.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:24:42 PM
My friends who are really into exercise don't tend to bring it up in day to day conversation. At all. They do mention it on Facebook. Often. I'm good with that. I don't get the feeling that they're doing it to call attention to themselves any more than any other type of Facebook post. Certainly I'm guilty of the "hanging at Starbucks" and food porn posts on FB.

One of my friends used to post every little detail about his workout including the kind of exercise and how much weight he lifted. It got old. I finally realized he was into body building (which admittedly I think I strange) the way some people are into running and how they talk about getting up at 4 am to fit in a run. I felt like I had a deeper understanding of his posts and ended up feeling supportive of his efforts rather than bored by his posts.



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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:30:17 PM
I don't know anyone who is obnoxious about it. If I did, then yes it would annoy me. But anyone can be obnoxious about anything--how many books they can read in a day, how successful they are at work, etc.

I don't mind talking about your accomplishments and bragging a little--it's fun and you're proud, so why not? A level-headed person knows how to do it w/o taking it too far.

I have several FB friends who talk about their exercising and/or running and I love it. Right now I'm terribly out of shape and still recovering from ovarian cancer and my chemo and it inspires me. I can't wait to exercise and "brag" about what I'm doing too. I just think of those runners out there and I think if they're doing that, then I can certainly do something!

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:30:40 PM
SmartyPants, that's one of my favorite memes! I've seen it used for vegans, too. Hysterical.

I tune out a lot of runners. I also tune out the gluten-free nuts or the paleo enthusiasts who don't miss a single opportunity to let you know how healthy their meal is and that you're probably eating crap.

I workout daily and I care very much about nutrition. I get zero enjoyment out of discussing either subject. It's about as exciting as telling people about my tax return, line by line.



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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:30:41 PM
I think this guy is insane, and way off the mark. LOL.

I agree that anyone can over-talk any hobby/interest/obsession/cause. But his idea that people run because it's the most visible form of exercise and they want people to look at them? HA! Talk to a runner and most of them will tell you that they actually had to get over being seen and it was a big impediment to running in the first place (makes you self-conscious, messes up your breathing, etc).

I ran 0-5 miles from ages birth to 39 years. I did NO form of exercise pretty much ever. In last two years, I've lost 70lbs and run over 1200 miles. I love running, and have to make myself not talk about it all the time. It's kind of like someone with their religion really - I think it makes you feel so good and amazing that you want to convert the world sometimes. Which isn't cool, of course.

But this guy sounds really bitter and weird. He's offended that runners read about running? he thinks it's dumb that there are running stores because you can get shoes and clothes anywhere. Clearly, he has never run a mile in his life. He's way off the mark on most of what he is saying here.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:31:04 PM
Two things come to mind after reading that article. 1. The author clearly isn't a runner. 2. He has an obvious disdain for people that run.

It's really hard to take his point seriously, as it is written with such obvious disdain and bias. Should runners brag about their accomplishments to everyone and anyone they meet? No, of course not! But running a mile let alone 26.2 is an accomplishment. It takes hours of training, dealing with bad weather at times and dedication to run a race, especially a marathon. So I believe the people that have put in the time to do so, deserve the right to share their accomplishments with friends and family.

I really take umbrage at his assertion that people who run outside are doing so to draw attention to themselves. Please! That assumption on his part is ridiculous and shows how narrow minded he is on the subject.

Despite all that, the article does give me pause about how much I talk about running with family and friends. I don't want to be tiresome or braggadocious about running either. So I guess that is the positive in an otherwise ridiculous and grouchy (to borrow another poster's comment) article.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:32:13 PM
Not at all! It's an activity that some people do and enjoy. It's not any different than posting a photo of your daughter's volleyball game, or the biscuits you made for dinner.

The runners that I see posting aren't superior acting. They're just regular people who are excited about their latest achievement.

While some probably ARE bragging or condescending in the "if you don't run, you're lazy" camp, consider that if they offend you, you're reading into it your OWN issues with your exercise routine, or lack thereof.

I guess my Facebook friends don't overpost about much, because I rarely get annoyed when they share, regardless of the topic.







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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:34:14 PM
These days, people want more than ever to be seen.
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I don't agree with this. I run because as a working mom it's the activity that works best with the lifestyle I have right now - working DH and 2 teens. That means if I have 1 hour to do some exercise, I don't waste 30 minutes of it driving to and from a gym. And unlike DH's hockey for the last 26 years....I don't have to do it on Sundays and Thursdays from 5 - 7 ...... if I did have an activity that was so inflexible, I would end up not going when someone needed a drive somewhere, or there was a parent teacher night, or I was out of town on business, etc.

I need something with flexibility. If people know I'm a runner they'll sometimes ask me about it...and I'll answer their questions but that's it. I have no bumper stickers...I only sometimes wear the T-shirts from an event because they're often cotton, not great for running actually.

I do get annoyed by runners who have to detail every race wtih their personal bests, etc...that's when it sounds like bragging. And I, like thousands of Canadians who run with The Running Room, use an interval system. Run 10 min walk 1 minute. Not sit down on the curb for 1 minute...it's a power walk to help dissipate the lactic acid. It lets me keep my pace for a much longer time.

But some people act like it's practically cheating....you'd think it was "run 10 minutes....take a bus for 1". They way they say...well I could barely move but I did not walk a single step.....as if that somehow makes them a "real" runner and me somekind of imposter. I use my 1 minute walk breaks to take a drink/gel or stretch my chronically tight hamstring. So if by talking intervals walks I can run a half marathon instead of stopping after 10 K because I can't go any further, I think that's a good trade off....

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:37:10 PM
When I first started running, I did probably talk about it a lot because it was new.

Now, I just do it. I will mention races on FB, and if someone asks, I'll answer, but that's it. My DH is a new runner and I don't talk to him about it unless he asks my opinion.

ETA that I mainly run at night in my neighborhood. I don't want to be seen, because I'm sure it's not cute!


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:37:35 PM
This is hilarious to me because I have 2 friends on FB (not FB friends with each other) who are running "addicts" who pretty much post daily about how far they ran or which marathon they registered for or which triathlon they are running in next, etc. etc. I congratulated them and gave them "attaboys" at first, but now I just roll my eyes. In fact, one just finished posting all of his pictures of Paris where he went to run a half marathon. Apparently there weren't enough in the US to satisfy his running needs.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:38:03 PM
Some friends and I had a discussion about this article on FB a couple of days ago. I think I was one of the few runners who found the article somewhat funny (and a little bit truthful). But I can see how it could be pretty offensive.

The thing about any exercise, for it to really work, for it to be more than an exercise and become a 'lifestyle', you have to go through a bit of an obsessive stage.

You can't do something that hard, every single day and not obsess about it. I think obsession is what makes the difference between someone who does something for a while and someone who does something forever. You know?

I think every runner has that in common. But I do think that some are better on picking up on social cues when talking about it with people who don't share the obsession and we learn to shut it every little once in a while.

I post a lot about running and working out on my FB. I'm never embarrassed about that because FB is about *me* and what is important to me...and posts about it are sort of like an open diary that keeps me accountable.

But I do sometimes get embarrassed in, hindsight, about how easily I'm able to work it into every day conversation with people who couldn't give a shit. I don't know why I do that. But I think the only answer, if I'm being totally honest, is pride.

Anyway, I got the article...I think points of it are true. But I think if it's a pride that drives ME to talk about it when I shouldn't, then it must be jealousy that drives the author to write about it the way he does.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:40:46 PM
I'm not a runner, but my son is a collegiate runner, so we spend a lot of time around runners of all ages and abilities. The kids talk about their races like any other sport does afterward, but don't seem to talk about the races excessively.

Of the adult runners we know, not many talk about it unsolicited all that much, but I enjoy chatting with people about their races since I'm actually interested in the sport. We have a couple marathoners and several half marathoners in our crowd. Some sport the stickers on the car, most don't. Stickers don't bother me or make me feel inferior because I don't 26.2.

I have no more issue with them talking or posting about running than I do my friend that is a knitter talking about her latest creation or our friends with little ones talking about their kids endeavors etc.

The author of that article sounded too jaded. The people we know don't wear 5K shirts or post about running to get attention. They do it because they enjoy it and are surrounded by lots of other people that are, too.

If people post excessively about any topic, that's a different discussion. I don't think what he perceives as attention seeking behavior is a running thing, I think it's an individual thing. Whether it's your trips, your workout, your spouse's undying love for you, your perfect, brilliant child's latest award, etc. if you constantly post about it, some people are bound to get annoyed.

His assertions about there being magazines and retail establishments focused on the sport make me scratch my head. Go figure--there are stores and magazines dedicated to a pursuit that many people are interested in.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:50:10 PM

If people post excessively about any topic, that's a different discussion. I don't think what he perceives as attention seeking behavior is a running thing, I think it's an individual thing. Whether it's your trips, your workout, your spouse's undying love for you, your perfect, brilliant child's latest award, etc. if you constantly post about it, some people are bound to get annoyed.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 12:59:50 PM
I found this response pretty humorous. FWIW I run, but I only try to mention it very occasionally, like if someone asks me about my weekend and I had a race, I'll mention it. I don't like it when anyone talks about anything obsessively, but I do think the WSJ guy was overly angry about the whole thing. Seemed like a bumper sticker really set him off.



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ETA - the last reason I run is so people can see that I run. More like it's good exercise, has tons of mental benefits, and is something I can do as soon as I step outside my door - I don't have to go anywhere special to do it. When I first started I only ran on back roads in my town because I did NOT want anyone to see me! LOL!

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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:02:15 PM
I don't mind hearing about it. It's not something that I do, and I don't know if I ever will, so it's interesting to me to see how devoted these other people are to it.





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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:03:02 PM
I read that article. I am guessing he is not a runner I felt like he was just tring to see how rude he could be. I run, but I only talk about it to other runners.
I have a 13.1 sticker on my car. I am very proud of that accomplishment! I also have a sticker showing support for Texas Tech. I love to see what people have on the back of their cars. It can be great conversation starters also. You know what they are interested in.
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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:09:54 PM
I have friends who are but they don't talk about it. They will just say they went for a run. I wish I could! My knee is shot.





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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:10:44 PM
I am most definitely NOT a runner. I feel like the ability is there in case I need to evade a serial killer or rabid animal some day, but that's about it.

But, I have several friends who are runners and I don't mind their posts at all. I sit on my tush thinking "good for you...you go!" and continue to sit on my tush. Knock yourselves out all your runners, I'll be rooting you on...from the comfort of my chair.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:16:31 PM
I think it's hilarious for a blogger to criticize others for narcissism.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:21:11 PM
I just wanted you guys to know that I'm getting ready to go out for a run.



eta: The Runner's World response is hilarious!


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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:21:36 PM
Ha! I love to talk about running but only do so if someone asks about my training. It's a fun sport and I'm a solo runner, so it's always fun to talk about.

I have one of those stickers, but am unsure if I want to out it on my car. I don't want to brag but I am darn proud of my accomplishment.

Also I hate running in public but managed to do so while training for my half. I would prefer not to but cannot stand the treadmill for runs longer than 3 miles. Whenever I see another person running, I always think to myself 'go them' or I wish I was running now. I never brag about my running either.

Oh funny thing: today I'm wearing my 'half crazy' shirt I got at the expo when I wear it, I wear it with pride, not to brag.





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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:23:46 PM
That's okay Purple Daisy, I wanted all of you to know that I got new running shoes today.



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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:24:04 PM
My husband is a long distance runner. I am sick to death of hearing about it. But I just smile and nod and ooh supportively - he's doing an ultra marathon in the spring and it seems like he talks about nothing else.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:30:38 PM
I have a good friend who I had to hide on Facebook in the weeks leading up to and immediately after the Chicago marathon. Every single day she posted about it multiple times. She has every shirt. She bought and shared the pictures. Took pictures of the medal. Had the medal framed. Took and posted pictures of that. She got a 26.2 tattoo. She of course posted about that.

the occasional post I don't mind. If you are running for a cause like cancer of the children's hospital I am happy to help sponsor it. If you are posting about running more than once a week I can guarantee, at least some of your friends are annoyed by it.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:36:57 PM
A few of my FB friends are runners. The ones who post the most about running & distances are the same ones who post a lot about what ever they are doing all.the.time. anyway. This is just the topic du jour. I don't care what people post at all. If the posts start to annoy me, I can always block the posts from my feed. It's not something I waste energy on.



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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:37:23 PM
It's not about running. It's about continually talking on the same topic -- ANY topic. For example, I know a woman who has been really into running for about 3 years. The rest of us joke, "How long will it take today before she brings up her latest time/marathon/how much more fit she is?" This same person was previously the same way about veganism. And before that crocheting baby blankets for a charity. And so on. In her case anyway, there is definitely a fishing for compliments aspect to her stories.

But I try and give them the patience I'm sure I require from others when I get interested in topic and talk about it too much.

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Posted: 11/19/2013 1:51:04 PM
let me tell you - if i ever complete a full marathon - i am DAMN sure getting a tattoo

that is a hell of an accomplishment

if runners wanna brag...good on them

but ya...i do get that runners are a bit obsessed!

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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:03:41 PM

It's not about running. It's about continually talking on the same topic -- ANY topic.

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I don't think what he perceives as attention seeking behavior is a running thing, I think it's an individual thing. Whether it's your trips, your workout, your spouse's undying love for you, your perfect, brilliant child's latest award, etc. if you constantly post about it, some people are bound to get annoyed.




^This^ We have examples of all of the above right here on the NSBR, with some of the worst offenders obsessing about religion and politcs



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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:17:31 PM
It's like everything else in life. If you are obsessive about it and that's the only thing you have to talk about, you are going to annoy people with it. I used to drive people crazy talking about my kids when they were little. I *could* drive people crazy talking about my horses now but thanks to maturity, I've learned to curb the urge to talk about nothing else to anyone who looks in my direction.

Same thing with West Wing.

That said, I tried joining a book club with some local ladies. I knew one person in the group while most of the other ladies knew each other in some other area. After the second meeting, I stopped attending. EVERY other person was either into running or cycling, or both! And EVERY discussion being held in the "room" when not about the book, was about running and cycling. I don't do either so I was definitely the odd man out in the room. I didn't hold it against them. It just wasn't a good fit for me after all.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:19:11 PM
I'm not a runner, but I can appreciate the dedication and passion that runners have. It's just not my thing. My exercise of choice is weight lifting.

I agree that talking about the same topic constantly can get to be to much. Everything in moderation.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:19:38 PM
I talk about being a runner and how far I've run or going to run so that when you see me on my 3rd donut or eating an entire can of pringles you don't judge me



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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:19:39 PM
I was soooo thinking about posting my Disney "Wine & Dine" Half-Marathon race recap on Two Peas...but this post has me rethinking that.

I think that as a runner, especially a new runner, these milestones of doing things that you never thought that your body was capable....well, they're pretty cool. And you don't really realize that everyone around you doesn't want to hear about it.

I suppose that this article makes me see both sides.

That said, I chose not to buy the 13.1 bumper sticker. I bought a cutesie wine glass as a Race souvenir instead. It was more functional.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:26:44 PM

I talk about being a runner and how far I've run or going to run so that when you see me on my 3rd donut or eating an entire can of pringles you don't judge me


Oh, make no mistake my friend, around these parts someone WILL judge you anyway...regardless.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:32:10 PM
It doesn't really bother me. I'm jealous. I would like to run, but can't anymore....my feet aren't in good enough shape to sustain running.

I don't want to hear about it ALL THE TIME, but I'd say that about any topic that someone wants to run into the ground be it...gardening, or their hobby or their collection of whatever.

I talk about my exercise....it's not running, but I walk, I work out on the elliptical, I take both a water zumba class and a water bootcamp class and I think I'm going to try spinning next.










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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:43:41 PM
I'm not a runner, but have family and friends who are, and post regularly about their daily run and races. It doesn't phase me. If it helps them to stay focused or be 'accountable,' more power to them.

I have a friend who posts all of her gym workouts to FB, so I also agree that this isn't just a 'runner' thing.

And I totally agree with this:


I think it's hilarious for a blogger to criticize others for narcissism.



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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:43:46 PM
And here I was...finally satisfied with the decision that I never want to run a marathon. Half or full. Six/Seven miles...that's about my limit.

But a 13.1 tattoo ? Now THAT might be something worth working for.


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Posted: 11/19/2013 2:46:52 PM
I for one am a person with very little tolerance for people in general, especially someone who is stuck on one subject BUT... I never get mad when I come across a runner or cyclist that talks about running or cycling obsessively. I am in awe of them, I want to hear all about it.

I hope to run a half marathon one day. I am too intimidated to try though... one day!

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Posted: 11/19/2013 3:09:31 PM
Sarah. But did you buy them at a running store? That's the part that supposedly makes you really worthy of disdain.


I was soooo thinking about posting my Disney "Wine & Dine" Half-Marathon race recap on Two Peas...but this post has me rethinking that.

You should! I love reading other people's stories. Especially from those who have run a longer distance than me. Please post.


But a 13.1 tattoo ? Now THAT might be something worth working for.

That would be great!

eta: to fix spelling


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Posted: 11/19/2013 3:15:36 PM

Sarah. But did you buy them at a running store? That's the part that supposedly makes you really worthy of distain.


Shhh. I did. And socks. I also bought socks. Do you think everyone notices me now that I have both socks and shoes that I bought at a store which sells socks and shoes? Boy howdy, I feel special and fancy what with my feet all covered up and stuff!




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Posted: 11/19/2013 3:17:59 PM
I love running. I was in such good shape last year from running, and I was sure I'd being doing a half marathon this year. Boy was I ever wrong! I've injured my ITB twice this year and am reduced to walking, and I couldn't even do that more than a few blocks at a time for weeks out of the spring and summer this year. I'm jealous of the runners. I've gained weight back and I'm angry at myself about that, and I miss being able to just go run it off.

I'm sure I'd never have actually done a marathon, but a half felt very doable. Now I'm not sure I'll ever get there.

I just tune out anyone who over-talks their hobbies, the runners don't bother me too much. Other than I'm envious that they can, never thought I'd be someone sitting on the sidelines or walking a 5k!
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