Photo Peas Classroom - Natural Light...An Overview
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Posted: 3/18/2010 9:22:50 AM
I apologize for not having this posted on Tuesday. Jami, thank you for your gentle reminder! I will repeat it again here - I'm a total goober, LOL.

I copied Barbie's brilliant idea for making each page a jpeg and then just uploading them here as an image - no more changing all those weird characters that show up when you copy/paste from a text document. Thank you, Barbie!

The only problem with that is that I can't put hot links right in the document. I realize now that you can't highlight/copy/paste from these images, so there will be clickable links at the bottom of this post. I also just realized that I forgot to put the link for the Open Shade lesson in the document. So that is linked at the bottom with all the others.

I mentioned this on the opening page, but this is just a very brief overview. The bulk of the "how-to" information is in the lessons from the Natural Light CC Group (NLCC). There was just no way to re-type everything for this one post.

Oh, and one more note - the color quality of the images on the pages that follow is not great (don't know why, the color profiles were the same, but I just don't have time right now to fight that battle and figure out why they look different). So just ignore the dull colors and look at the pretty light, LOL.

I'm happy to answer any questions! Thanks, Anne

P.S. And just to cement the fact of my total goober-ness in all its glory, I accidentally posted this on the general scrapping board first. They must be wondering, "What on earth is this wacko blabbing about???"

And here are the links to click on:

NLCC Flat Lighting Lesson (Scroll 1/4 of the way down the page - it's in red)

NLCC 45-degree Lighting Lesson (Scroll down halfway on the page - it's also in red)

NLCC Open Shade Lesson

NLCC Backlighting Lesson


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Posted: 3/18/2010 9:34:21 AM
Thank you Anne! Don't have time to read all of it yet, will have to wait till I get home. But I am so excited to obsorb all of it and practice.
I got upto the Yin and Yang part. LOVE the explanation. I always knew the concept but never read that before.

Thanks for putting this lesson together.

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Posted: 3/18/2010 9:42:12 AM
you. That is all.

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Posted: 3/18/2010 9:45:37 AM
Thank you!!!

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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:04:52 AM
Thank you Anne! Don't have time to read right now but I'm going to bookmark this and print it so I can read it fully and make sure I understand it all.

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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:08:12 AM

I accidentally posted this on the general scrapping board first. They must be wondering, "What on earth is this wacko blabbing about???"

Don't feel did I when I posted my wedding lesson...LOL! Thanks Anne...great info here!




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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:36:45 AM
This is so great, Anne!!! Thank you so much!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:39:35 AM
Thanks Anne! This info is so awesome... I loved our class last year


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Posted: 3/18/2010 11:34:26 AM
Thank You so much Anne!! This is awesome!!!!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 11:40:08 AM
Thank You!!!!

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Posted: 3/18/2010 11:48:37 AM
Awesome can't wait to read it all.



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Posted: 3/18/2010 12:00:52 PM
This is awesome, Anne! Thank you so much, and thanks for including the links to the past lessons. I can't wait to read and study it all!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 12:19:12 PM
This is wonderful! Thank you so much


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Posted: 3/18/2010 12:43:51 PM
Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 1:18:23 PM
Thank you sooooo much Anne! Your work & knowledge is amazing!!! I missed the natural light CC group so this is soooo helpful!!! Thank you so much for doing this! I can't wait to read it all! You rock! I wonder if the Peas could start up another Natural Light group???


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Posted: 3/18/2010 1:22:27 PM
Thanks Anne, I needed a refresher!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 2:32:48 PM
Anne, as always, I you!!!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 2:56:22 PM
Thanks for that! I am going to have to check out all those links! I use natural light in the hospitals, because it looks sooo good on the baby's' skin. Unfortunately, the rooms are still a little dark, and my camera is old and has TERRIBLE ISO capabilities, so I use my flash, bounced against the window, to enhance the natural light. It works great!

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Posted: 3/18/2010 6:36:54 PM
Thanks Anne, great lesson.

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Posted: 3/18/2010 6:52:54 PM

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Posted: 3/18/2010 7:40:12 PM
Thanks, Anne. I learn alot from your posts.


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Posted: 3/18/2010 8:45:42 PM
Just what I needed...thanks for putting this together for us!!

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Posted: 3/18/2010 8:57:33 PM
Thank you..this is really awesome!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 9:02:09 PM
Wow, great lesson thanks.

One question - we have very large south windows that let in lots of lovely natural light - how far should I get the person near to or away from the light?

AT Xmas shots I had us 45 degrees to the window as that was the only place big enough (bookshelf) to hang the black material.Cant wait to get a stand to put backing paper or something on so that the walls arent so far from the window LOL.

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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:03:05 PM
You are a fantastic/natural teacher Anne--thank you so much for sharing your expertise once again. I feel like I should send you paypal


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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:20:52 PM
Thank you for taking the time to put this together, Anne!


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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:24:28 PM
What a great lesson in natural light. I love all of your examples. Your pictures are amazing. Thanks again. What a help!

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Posted: 3/18/2010 10:47:00 PM
Ok so I finally got a chance to read through the whole thing. Great great great!

Oh and I wrote the Yin and Yang explanation in a notebook I keep and one day I am going to use that explanation in a scrap page. But it will have to go with just the right picture.

So I have a question about the picture you posted with the adorable little baby. I get that his body is facing the window. You say his head is turned 45 degrees. I must be looking at it at the wrong angle because to me that looks like 90 degrees. Do you know what I mean? Am I being too picky with my degrees? I'm thinking back to school when we did the right angle triangles and stuff. lol!

If he was backed up away from the window, but had the same pose I would think he would be looking at the wall that connects to the window and that would be 90degrees. But if he was looking at the corner where the two walls meet, that would be 45degrees and that is where the camera would be positioned.

Again sorry if i'm being weird about it. When you don't quite get it yet (like moi) these little things make or break a shot.


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Posted: 3/18/2010 11:31:34 PM
Anne, thanks so much for your lesson. Like everything else you post, it's full of great information.

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Posted: 3/19/2010 12:51:26 AM
Thank you for the wonderful info! Bookmarking for future reference.

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Posted: 3/19/2010 7:46:44 AM
A fantastic lesson Anne - you're so generous and talented! I will be referring back to this time and time again

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Posted: 3/19/2010 8:01:39 AM
This was such a wonderful explaination of natural lighting, thank you!! And as always, inspiring photographs!



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Posted: 3/19/2010 9:40:29 AM
Thank you so much for sharing your time and knowledge with us! I feel so fortunate to have found this very talented and generous group of people!

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Posted: 3/19/2010 10:01:37 AM
You are all very welcome! I'm glad you're finding this helpful.

Sugarmommy - I did a diagram that might explain better what I mean about 45 degrees:

Based on what you're saying, you're correct that if his nose was facing the corner of the room (where the two walls meet) that would be 45 degrees. But he's facing the other way, so his nose is still at 45 degrees, but facing the opposite way. Does that make sense? It was easier for me to be on the open side of the room (so I could back up if needed) rather than being crammed in the corner to shoot. And, most importantly, I wanted the blank wall behind him, not the busy background that would have been behind him if I was in the corner.

Heather - how close or far from the window just depends. If there is direct sunlight coming in (as might be the case with a south-facing window), you don't want your subject to be directly in that light - you would move them away until they were placed in the indirect light coming in. If you do have direct sunlight, you can hang a thin white piece of fabric to block the direct light, which still allows a lot of light to shine in, but it's softer.




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Posted: 3/19/2010 10:38:01 AM
Thanks so much for this lesson.


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Posted: 3/19/2010 11:26:05 AM
That's great Anne. I LOVE diagrams, totally helps!

Thanks again,

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Posted: 3/19/2010 11:38:00 AM
I'm playing catch up on all of the Classroom lessons this morning, so I'm happy to have caught up with yours!

Your explainations are so clear and concise! And, your examples are the perfect add on. That you for sharing your knowledge and adorable model(s)!

For anyone that hasn't done the natural light group, I would strongly encourage it! It will change the way you look at light!



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Posted: 3/19/2010 12:19:08 PM
Anne, everything you do is perfection!! I love how you laid out everything in such an easy to comprehend way, and of course, included exquisite examples of your work.

Thanks a million! I have printed it and it is definitely a keeper!


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Posted: 3/19/2010 12:45:53 PM
Great one! Thank you!

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Posted: 3/19/2010 2:34:45 PM
Thank you!!!! This is great!! I'm definitely going right now to read the links you shared.

And I've always wondered how so many Peas here could tell which direction the light was coming from! HAHA! Now I know- the placement of the catchlights!! I felt silly once I read that... seems obvious now! HAHA!!

Thank you, Anne!


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Posted: 3/19/2010 10:29:30 PM
this is fabulous as usual anne! thanks for a great lesson!

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Posted: 3/20/2010 1:31:44 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! This is so helpful and you are kind to take time to share all of your knowledge!


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Posted: 3/20/2010 11:14:31 PM
thanks so much for all this great to find a willing subject to practice on


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Posted: 3/20/2010 11:43:58 PM
This is so helpful, thanks for your great tut! I'm starting to try more angled lighting so the face is a little more shadowed to one side. I think it adds a little more depth to the face, and especially looks good in b&w portraits. Thanks Anne!


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Posted: 3/22/2010 8:55:05 PM
Thanks for posting this Anne!


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Posted: 3/22/2010 9:08:39 PM
Awesome lesson too. I am really interested in the backlit sections. I so want to learn how to do this and now with some sunshine coming (fingers crossed) I can try. Thank you so much. ~Jackie

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Posted: 3/22/2010 10:24:43 PM
Thank you for answering my question Anne, that was very helpful, as was the entire tute


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Posted: 3/25/2010 8:15:06 AM
Somewhere in one on those links it mentions there was a lesson on Shooting in Full Sun, but I couldn't find it, does anyone have a link to this post? I did a search and can't seem to locate it! If anyone knows where I can find it, I would really appreciate it! Thanks for this awesome thread/lesson, very informative!! Thanks, Leslie

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Posted: 12/6/2010 11:40:31 AM
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