One tiny picture on a huge page--WHY?????

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Posted 9/24/2012 by megascraper in Digital Scrapbooking
 

megascraper
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Posted: 9/24/2012 10:16:36 PM
So...I was looking through the digital gallery just now. I am amazed at how brilliant these layouts are--they do things I would never think of and often give me great ideas for my own layouts. But...I just DON'T GET IT. I feel so...disconnected. Like I am the only person who scraps the way I do. What I see are beautiful works of art. But--they just aren't practical. I just don't understand one tiny 2x3 picture on a 12x12 page with a million elements around it. Beautiful? Yes. Talented? No question. But practical? No. And that's fine--I know everyone has their own style and their own way of looking at this art form. Its just that--it seems like 90% of the layouts I look at are like that. So few people seem to scrap like I do--lots of photos and journaling, chronological, telling the story, and I do 81/2 x 11 pages which I swear there are like five of us in the entire universe that do that. I guess I'm just surprised that so few people seem bothered by the fact that each page costs money to print and only doing one or two pictures per page is expensive! But then, I know some people don't print at all. And again I'm like--how is that practical? What's the point if no one SEES it?

What is YOUR philosophy? If you are one of those amazing artists that create these pages, please tell me your philosophy. I don't understand why everyone seems to have this same idea. I guess when you do 8 1/2 x 11 pages, every little space is precious. I can't bear to leave open space on my pages, so when I see others do it, I have the hardest time wondering, "How can you just leave that BLANK? Is the PAPER really more important than the PICTURE?" I just don't get it.

Please don't think I'm saying that people who scrap this way are "doing it wrong" or whatever. It's just something I don't understand and I'm curious if anyone else out there agrees with me.


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Posted: 9/24/2012 11:17:19 PM
lol. I don't really have anything to add - just that I totally understand what you mean. I hate having to hunt for pictures on a layout and I find myself wondering when the extreme clustering trend will be finally be over. I like to journal and I like the page to be practical and fun for my family to look at.


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Posted: 9/25/2012 2:04:10 AM
Guilty... I never (or almost) journal, and do a lot of pages with one photo..maybe not tiny-tiny but neither LARGE ^__^

For example here --> one photo, everything I should tell is both in the title or below the photo. No journal..no other photos. I just want to remember that Rain (my cat) loves his friend Topino (the mouse).

I don't know if it makes sense to you,but I want to add another reason: I'm working on an album about a trip to the Zoo. I could do just a couple of layout, with a lot of photos and journal (practical) or I could do a layout for every animal. I chose to do so, and there's no need to journal in every page. Because from the very first page, when I will be veeeery old I will know that I was on the Zoo, in Budapest, in 2011 ( here I used a lot of photos and not very tiny ^__^ )

^_^ I appreciate very much when I see layout as you do, with lot of photos and memories. I love read long journal.

ciao!



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Posted: 9/25/2012 5:03:32 AM
I have often thought the same thing. I usually do pages filled with photos. But it is a lot of fun to do the occasional page with just one photo (although I usually make that photo large). It really allows for emphasis on that particular image.

Another possibility: When I post a page on-line (and I've only done a few at Two Peas), I don't always have the permission of everyone at the event to do that and I'm uncomfortable posting pages with lots of people without checking with them first. So pages I post on my blogs or here have fewer photos than ones I do for my family.


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Posted: 9/25/2012 9:20:02 AM
I do quite a mix of pages, some are for story telling and others are for showcasing a designer's product. Whether I am scrapping for me (which I do try to do with every page, but for some kits I am given to work with I just don't have a story to tell, or perhaps I have scrapped the story previously but the photos are perfect to showcase the specific product).






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Posted: 9/25/2012 9:29:49 AM
ahhh...white space. i do love it, but understand where you are coming from completely. my theory is that project life and similar kinds of projects have changed the way we all journal, or not. however, it is just a theory.



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Posted: 9/25/2012 10:57:40 AM
Ah, yes, the white space layouts. I do them sometimes - and other times I'm layering and clustering all over the place! LOL I will say that when I do a white space layout, I try to keep the number and size of embellishments in proportion to the photo so it doesn't get lost in a sea of ... well, stuff. Here's a page that's more white-space-ish (LOL): Forever Family. Why? The photo was sent by my cousin and was really poor quality - and no amount of tweaking in Lightroom was going to help the graininess. So here I opted to keep the photo small - why fight with it, right? Yes, there are other elements on the page, but I think (I hope! ) that the stitching draws you in to help find things. Then, of course, there's a page like I Scrap {Therefore, I Am} that was purely whimsical. I really didn't intend on everything being so small ... it just finished up that way, no particular rhyme or reason to it!



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Posted: 9/25/2012 11:18:12 AM
well there are so many styles of scrapping and now with digital even more possibilities...I find I'm a bit on the layered photos, lots of photos, make it look dimensional as if it were actually done in paper digi scrapper, but I do venture out and try out various styles just for variety. But my go-to motivation is to showcase the photos (make them as large as possible) and gives the facts (who,what, when, where, why?) if I can. I already have too many pages/photos to scrap to do very many one photo LOs--just not economical or practical for me, but it's fun to see what everyone else does...and occasionally I will do a page of that design especially if I only have one good photo for something I want to scrap about. That's what I love about scrapping...you can do it your way and it's all good.


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Posted: 9/25/2012 2:22:38 PM
My feeling on this trend is ... they sure are beautiful. But, it's not my style either - I only scrap pages that will go into family scrapbooks, and want them to be picture and story centered. So although I love the artsy stuff to look at - I don't do it.


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Posted: 9/25/2012 2:29:32 PM
You're certainly not the only one to notice or wonder why and wherefore. That said, while I have fun doing challenge layouts that only have 1 photo (though I've never been a fan of having to search out the photo from a cluster), it's not my preferred method. I do like trying the trends, though, as I learn new things with each that I can choose to incorporate into my personal pages, or not.

It's possible that
a) they're not printing every layout
they only have a single decent picture of a given event
c) they are going for artistic expression more than strict memory keeping
d) they are only posting the trendy ones

I have a strong suspicion that there might be companion pages to a lot of the sparse ones we see here and in other galleries that fill out the stories (basically, option D above).

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Posted: 9/25/2012 6:11:44 PM
I admire LOs with white space only because I'm not good at it and it isn't my style. But I agree with you--I would like to have more pictures on a page--or if only one picture--have it be a large photo.


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Posted: 9/25/2012 6:36:37 PM
I am working on sevral pages right now, and maybe it is the photographer in me, but if I do a single photo layout, that picture is huge. It is not my style. Not saying the pages are not beautiful just not my thing.


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Posted: 9/25/2012 8:10:29 PM
Thank you for all your responses! I was so afraid people would get all offended (but I guess this isn't the NSBR board, is it? Thank you for your explanations--that helps a lot! ANd so glad that others have felt the same way I do. Thank you for sharing your pages, too! I don't have a lot in the gallery--still figuring that out. I post a lot of my layouts at my blog. You can see that most my pages are just chuck full of stuff!


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Posted: 9/26/2012 3:24:20 AM
Oh I've been prompted to agree on some of the points made here.

I don't have many photos pre having kids, and many times just a photo from a particular trip or event. And then going back more the photos are very small and not good quality and I don't have the negatives. So for pages from my/DH childhood (and even teen years) if I want to scrap something there isn't an option but to use a small, single photo (even with a computer there is a limit to how much I can improve on many of those pictures).

I haven't printed out ANY of my digital pages yet (I would put this down to the fact that I am also a paper scrapper so do have many physical pages/albums anyway) and agree that I do a number of my pages just a creative fun, therefore it doesn't really matter how many photos or how much of a story I tell on my digital pages as I generally have a paper page that is more traditional in that aspect.

I have got lazy with sharing said paper pages now I have got used to being able to share easily my digital pages, it seems such a faff to take a photo of my paper pages and enhance them to upload to a gallery. I tend to only be bothered doing so when participating in challenges.





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Posted: 9/26/2012 6:48:54 AM
I'm with you too.... never have done a page with one tiny photo, and I never plan to. Although I don't scrap digitraditionally (a new word I just made up!), I definitely stick with the idea of storytelling and sharing memories- past and present.

My style is different from most everyone I know, but that doesn't bother me a bit. I really just enjoy the creative journey. I generally fill my pages up, but never with unrelated embellishments. You can check out my gallery here.



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Posted: 9/26/2012 1:06:57 PM
Suzanne (fruitysuet) made a couple of points that I think help explain some of this trend - a lot of us work on creative teams, and we are presented with kits to use and showcase, for which we might not have photos we feel will work. Some people don't print lo's, so it is just an artistic endeavor or outlet.

In answer to your question about who will see a lo not printed, the development of online sites and blogs and FB and Flickr, etc., allow for a world of people to see the lo's online, which is great for those of us with family far away.

For myself, I am in complete agreement with you. I rarely use only one photo on a lo and I also really prefer to tell a story whenever possible. The only time I might use a small photo is if I am stuck with poor resolution photos. Even then I will try starting wih an 8x8 canvas so I can use the photo at a larger size than I could have on a 12x12, but even then I am unlikely to use only one photo.

We do have some 8 1/2 x 11 digi scrappers on this board. I definitely think about doing a book that size, I really like I too, for something different.

So thanks for starting this interesting dialogue. It's a big, bold digi world out there and I love hearing all the ways people approach scrapping.



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Posted: 9/26/2012 3:16:50 PM
I don't scrap that way, either, but to each their own. I do appreciate the talent involved in creating such detailed cluster embellishing and and creating that style of LOs. I have taken some of the design principles from these LOs and used them sparingly on my own pages.

One thing I keep reading on various threads here at 2Ps --- mostly over at the GS or Pub boards --- is that some paper design teams require their members to use so much product per square inch (or something like that). I think that is at least part of the reason this style of page has evolved, and it obviously appealed to several scrappers.

I personally do a few single photo pages here and there, because in some cases, I have only one photograph of a certain event/moment/etc. I love grungy or painty-looking masks for some of those pages. I haven't used very small photos very frequently. The other 99% of the time I do multiple photo LOs, usually involving a grid, because I like grouping my pictures together in orderly and eye-pleasing way.

I think that's the great thing about the gallery...there are so many styles, projects, and LO types here, and we can draw inspiration from them all.


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Posted: 9/26/2012 3:28:31 PM

I admire LOs with white space only because I'm not good at it and it isn't my style. But I agree with you--I would like to have more pictures on a page--or if only one picture--have it be a large photo.

Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth! When I use only one photo, I always feel the need to have it be LARGE, the focal point of the page!


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Posted: 9/26/2012 5:23:36 PM
Out of my 35 layouts for 2012, I have 1 that has 1 photo. The photo is also small compared to the 12x12 page.

It is about my daughter turning 12 & has journaling all over it. So it is a packed page - just not lots of photos.

I love the look of single photo layouts but I rarely can only pick 1 photo of an event (I take tons of pictures). When looking for inspiration, I look at those layouts to see if I can add more frames & photos & those are the ones I go back to.

So my take is: they are pretty but not always functional. It doesn't bother me though - to each his own.

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Posted: 9/26/2012 9:15:36 PM
One thing that I've been working on, though, after looking at these type of pages, is how they group elements together. I don't really do that. I don't seem to have the knack for it. Its a lot harder than it looks! I was doing a page last night where I just had this corner of the page with nothing going on--and no picture to fill it. It BUGS me. I just don't hae the self control to leave it! So I tried clustering some elements. It was a lot harder than I thought it would be, plus the kit I was using was small and didn't come with a lot of elements to use. I had to make a few myself. But it still turned out nice.

Its so nice to hear that other people feel the same way I do, and the explanations make a lot of sense. I had no idea about "showcasing" a kit or that people even did that!


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Posted: 9/26/2012 11:21:06 PM
I don't like that look either. I worked I publishing and graphics for 13 years so I get it. White space allows elements to breathe. A lot of white space means the one element really draws the eyes.

IMO most non professionals can't do it very well. But if you like the look and it speaks to you, then you might do it just for yourself to enjoy.

Also this might be a new thought but...

Art is not practical. By its definition it is not practical. (not that what everyone does is art, but it is ARTISTIC in nature)


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Posted: 9/26/2012 11:22:05 PM
I personally think it is "cheating" to claim you got 10 photos on a page when you are only using 1 square inch of each photo! So there!


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Posted: 9/27/2012 2:05:38 AM
I totally agree with you! of course I do a page with only one small picture here and there, but it always include some journaling. I can't get the sense of a page without journaling !!!!??????
BTW I am one of those 5 people who also scrap 8.5 x 11"



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Posted: 9/27/2012 1:22:06 PM

I totally agree with you! of course I do a page with only one small picture here and there, but it always include some journaling. I can't get the sense of a page without journaling !!!!??????


Am I the only one that not always put a journal? (and with "not always" I mean that there are a very few number of my layout with a journal ^__^)

For me, it's not the most important thing. I just put the date and the place (not always) and I just write "everything" in the title.
I don't think there's a "correct" way and a "wrong" way to scrap, maybe the goal is different, I scrap for myself (not for a "legacy" so for me it's not important to write down everything (for now..maybe tomorrow I will change my mind ^__^)



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