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frankcassiesmom
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PeaNut 206528 - 5/21/2005
Posts: 1904 Layouts: 151
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Oy. A CM consultant that is a friend of my mom's who has always been more than a little "skeptical"
is the nice word I will use about digital told her yesterday that CM is branching out into digital. Oy. |
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daisyrose
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PeaNut 200601 - 4/14/2005
Posts: 1860 Layouts: 121
Loc: Tennessee | Posted: 3/1/2006 12:43:35 PM
Well, can't think of anything "safer" for your photos than scanning them and putting virtual stuff on them.
And we all know how important it is to be "safe" with your photos!  |
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ditzyscrap
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 70908 - 2/21/2003
Posts: 2057 Layouts: 182
Loc: AB, Canada
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I have thought of that quite a bit...it doesn't surprise me in the least. Afterall, it IS about keeping your memories safe, and the reason that they frown on all the embellishments is that they aren't always acid/lignin free. But, there is no acid or lignin in a digital element, so maybe CM branching out to digital will relieve some of the "bland" CM layouts (white backgrounds, nothing else but photos and paper and stickers) and allow them to be more creative with their photos and layouts. |
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RealtorPea
Not on CrAcK, I just scrap like it
PeaNut 91844 - 6/21/2003
Posts: 6852 Layouts: 306
Loc: Southern Cali
| Posted: 3/1/2006 12:55:56 PM
Can I just say... I can't wait to see what they come up with?  |
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DigiPeaKeely
BucketHead
PeaNut 224830 - 9/27/2005
Posts: 892 Layouts: 50 | Posted: 3/1/2006 12:56:10 PM
cannot wait to see that as when I started scrapping 7 years ago...I was all about CM for years until I discover Eyelets, brads, all that FUN stuff!! Will always love CM Albums but wanted CM to branch out more...now I cannot wait to see what CM comes out with! |
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TraceyS/FL
BucketHead
PeaNut 231917 - 11/15/2005
Posts: 785 Layouts: 5
Loc: Central Florida | Posted: 3/1/2006 1:11:55 PM
I know CM tested digital software a few years ago or so and i've heard from a friend that tested it that it stunk.
I was a CMC for years (7) - but short of producing kits for sale on CD, they really shouldn't try to enter this market. Albums - yes, software - no. NOt many CMCs out there will be able to offer support for the product.
Time will tell - i hear stuff relatively soon, and hadn't heard this rumor yet.
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Mom2Ethan
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PeaNut 21192 - 9/7/2001
Posts: 1020 Layouts: 10
Loc: Central Illinois | Posted: 3/1/2006 1:16:13 PM
NOt many CMCs out there will be able to offer support for the product.
That was one of my first thoughts. It should be interesting if it happens. |
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sweetandsour
BucketHead
PeaNut 134862 - 3/5/2004
Posts: 906 Layouts: 4
Loc: cheated out of my March 09 CK issue
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CM came out with a Memory Manager PC-only program that manages your digital photos - maybe that's what she meant? I think it works like iPhoto/Photoshop Elements Album (I only have iPhoto so I'm guessing on the other app).
Plus you can order photos online through CM's Photo Center.
I can't see them going into digital LOs, since they got rid of photo-safe printer paper earlier this year (or was it last year?). |
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angedawn
PeaAddict
PeaNut 57963 - 12/6/2002
Posts: 1243 Layouts: 47 | Posted: 3/1/2006 1:55:34 PM
I just have a really hard time seeing this... it just doesn't seem like them at all... but I guess we will see. |
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liannallama
Guess What? Tiki Butt!
PeaNut 135421 - 3/8/2004
Posts: 16645 Layouts: 319
Loc: Orange County, California
Count: 61 | Posted: 3/1/2006 2:18:54 PM
I don't see a problem with this at all. They already sell photo paper and I think fonts and some sort of software.
I've always liked the quality of their products and have used and loved their albums.
The only problem I see now that I have gone digitial is printing my 12x12 LO's to fit in their books. My dilemma is now do I get different books, cut my Lo's to be 11 1/2 x12 , thereby cropping off any edges, or print them to be 11 1/2 x11 1/2? |
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Josoliviamaid
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 203909 - 5/5/2005
Posts: 2836 Layouts: 560
Loc: Home of the 82nd Airborne Div. and the BBQ capital of the US
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frankcassiesmom
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PeaNut 206528 - 5/21/2005
Posts: 1904 Layouts: 151
| Posted: 3/1/2006 3:08:42 PM
Yeah this CMC is asking to look at my digi stuff to and try and understand it. I guess they are trying to start learning about it. |
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aldelbec
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PeaNut 153657 - 6/23/2004
Posts: 1200 Layouts: 0
| Posted: 3/1/2006 3:22:19 PM
CM going digi... from the bottom of my heart I wish not....
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lisahoo
PeaNut
PeaNut 201261 - 4/19/2005
Posts: 383 Layouts: 9
| Posted: 3/1/2006 3:47:22 PM
at first, my reaction was the same as most of y'all... but then I took a step back to think about the CM "angle" as it were.
Although their design choices are a bit behind the times, and I've decided I don't like the strap-hinge style of album (I'm all about the top-load, now!), you have to respect their paradigm ~~ they are all about making it quick and easy to get those photos into the albums so they can be enjoyed.
Their 'call to arms' about acid-free, lignin-free and all that is all about making sure those photos last through time. And although their style is pretty bland, they are all about formulas and using tools to make it quick and easy to get the pages DONE and in the books, rather than agonizing over every photo placement. And who, among us paper-scrappers, didn't appreciate those formulas when we first started out? All those papers and stickers at the LSS would make anyone tremble with indecision!
And you cannot dispute that their tools (although a bit pricey) are absolutely top-notch! Although I don't care about their albums, papers or stickers, that personal cutting system, the personal photo trimmer and the shape-makers are the mainstays of my scrapbooking tool tote!
OK, to the digital point ~~ they are learning (as the camera companies are too) that the world is going DIGITAL ~~ at least as far as photos go. Online photo developers are popping up like weeds ~~ and the traditional film development places are trying to get their piece of the pie, too. It would be FOOLISH of CM to ignore this very basic fact about the whole "Memory Marketplace".
Now while many of us on the pea-board are spoiled rotten by the fabulously creative and talented scrappers and designers in the digi-world, you have to admit, that at times, Art is a bit at odds with the Utility part of Memory Keeping. If you are spending hours on a layout, you're not going to get very many of them done.
In another post about the costs of digi vs. paper scrapping someone mentioned how much more productive she was with digi, so that justified the expense. And I have to concur. One of the major time savings I have founds is just keeping up with photos. No dropping off or picking up film, no need for boxes with divider tabs, afternoons spent labeling them carefully with my soft-leaded pencil ~~ they're all on my PC, already tagged with the date they were taken.
Organizing photos digitally seems like a natural match for CM. And although we may look down our noses at their 'art' or lack thereof, if CM starts to produce digital "kits" along the lines of their papers and stickers, I can see where a lot of folks would give it a go. In their paper line, you can buy papers, stickers and matching photo-safe pens in coordinating color families, I can see how the same sort of approach to digital products could be very attractive to a 'weekend scrapper' who has limited time to churn out a lot of pages.
In the current digi-community, it can be quite overwhelming just deciding which software package to buy, then add on some hardware issues and it can definitely be a good reason to quit and go back to paper for some folks. Although the average CM consultant isn't equipped to help much, they could be doing some serious consultant training on their own in-house SW to minimize that. (It could happen!!)
Just a few of my thoughts on the whole topic. It's a big 'ol pie and everyone wants a slice! |
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lisahoo
PeaNut
PeaNut 201261 - 4/19/2005
Posts: 383 Layouts: 9
| Posted: 3/1/2006 4:05:33 PM
POSTSCRIPT ~~ did a little poking around to find out what CM was really doing ~~ they have a new software package called Memory Manager which is really more of a digital photo management software with the capability to do some very elementary scrapbook layouts including journal boxes. Read more about it and view the demo here |
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kimlizzy
DownUnder Pea
PeaNut 12891 - 3/21/2001
Posts: 20635 Layouts: 301
Loc: The Land DownUnder
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That link didn't work. Try this one. here. |
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Rhoda Jayne
PeaAddict
PeaNut 154005 - 6/24/2004
Posts: 1045 Layouts: 15
Loc: close to a diamond mine
| Posted: 3/1/2006 5:02:27 PM
I have visions of digital Mrs. Grossman stickers & the shape diecuts!
I'll always love CM for educating me on the archival information. I think the tools are top quality & I love the CM albums that I have. On the shelf, they look nicer than the rest of mine; however, I don't use theirs anymore.
The strap hinge & post bounds are just too hard, lol! I'm doing 3rings now.
If they start digital products, they better check out all their competition first.
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dancingirisheyes
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PeaNut 228836 - 10/25/2005
Posts: 1622 Layouts: 172
Loc: Orange County, CA | Posted: 3/1/2006 11:04:46 PM
My Mom is a CMC and she gave me Memory Manager for Christmas. Pretty good program. It takes fooooooorever to get all your elements filed with it though. I gave up. It took too long. |
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Keela
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 114340 - 11/3/2003
Posts: 2055 Layouts: 483
Loc: Central IL
| Posted: 3/2/2006 8:02:36 AM
Bree, I'm cracking up at your comment! You should see my first album...I got started scrapping with CM and was a consultant. Funny thing is...I couldn't scrap while I was a consultant. Once I quit (and stopped scrapping "their way" my creativity returned...funny, eh?! |
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4dloveofscrap
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 57278 - 11/28/2002
Posts: 2899 Layouts: 58
Loc: missing the Jersey Shore | Posted: 3/2/2006 8:30:48 AM
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KansasScrapper
AncestralPea
PeaNut 33559 - 3/27/2002
Posts: 4437 Layouts: 354
Loc: Pittsburg, KS | Posted: 3/20/2006 5:41:33 AM
So if we buy a CM album and put our printed out kits from CM and (god forbid) other kits from designers, does that mean our album is not guaranteed for life? I am sure that their kits will be the only "safe" ones out there???
Is it going to be white papers that you can put stickers on and those cute lines and corners? I can only imagine what the kits will be. Being a NON CM fan, I am staying away from this one. |
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ktscrapbooklady
PeaFixture
PeaNut 34865 - 4/2/2002
Posts: 3677 Layouts: 446
 | Posted: 3/20/2006 9:40:06 AM
I used to be a CM consultant too and so I know the good (they get people scrapping and keep it simple)
and bad of Creative Memories which I really won't get into.
I really don't think any of you have anything to worry about with them going digital. I think it means their photo managing system and perhaps even some digital photo processing.
It takes them FOREVER to get a new idea going and they are pretty rigid in their beliefs so I don't think they are all of a sudden going to break out into the digital scrapbook design world and if they do, it realy won't change much for most of us here anyway.
If anything, it will probably just introduce people to the idea that scrapbooking can be digital and that is a good thing right? 
Interesting stuff to think about. |
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dancingirisheyes
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PeaNut 228836 - 10/25/2005
Posts: 1622 Layouts: 172
Loc: Orange County, CA | Posted: 3/20/2006 10:29:02 AM
Definitely dittoing your post Katie. I talked to my Mom and she laughed and said "I think the Memory Manager is as digital as they're gonna get for a while." LOL I didn't realize how rigid they were about their "beliefs" though! |
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lisahoo
PeaNut
PeaNut 201261 - 4/19/2005
Posts: 383 Layouts: 9
| Posted: 3/20/2006 1:32:25 PM
Thank you Katie for saying in a few sentences what I rambled on & on about!!
While their 'style' is pretty out of date, I would guess that about HALF the folks scrapbooking in the US are doing so in part due to Creative Memories. (Most of us have moved on to other techniques, tools and styles since then, but they have their niche...) |
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