Crop Nightmare Stories
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myboysnme
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Posted: 1/24/2011 7:54:18 PM
OK - two more mini stories. My friend and I showed up for a weekend crop at a hotel and when we got to the crop room, the place was packed! We could not find anyplace to sit. We asked the staff for help, and the best they could find was two separate seats in separate parts of the room, squeezed in between groups of people who had staked out seats for their friends who were arriving later. I was very unhappy, and they finally made an announcement asking if anyone had two empty seats at their table. No one did. They finally made room for us up front where they hadn't planned to put anyone. It is pretty crazy to have people paying for a weekend crop and not have space for them when they arrive.

At another weekend crop I signed up for by myself, they had a neat, on line seating plan. I chose a nice seat near a window. Imagine my shock when I got to the crop and found out I would be spending the entire weekend cropping on just 3 feet of table space! I had to share a 6 foot table for 3 days with someone I didn't know who put down tape to make sure I didn't encroach, which I do not do anyway. I barely had room to have a 2 page spread on the table with my trimmer. I thought I was getting a whole table to myself. If I had known I was getting 3 feet of table I would never have paid to crop there. And the crops fill up, too. The hotel had no restaurant on the premises or nearby; you had to drive for meals - only snacks were included in the weekend fee.

So my two most recent "nightmare" stories relate to table space - one where we had no table at all for the first 30 minutes we were there, and one where I paid for just 3 feet of space for 3 days.

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Posted: 1/27/2011 2:47:30 PM
On page 8 of this thread, I dared to complain in 2007 about a Virginia scrapbook retreat. Then, in my foolishness, I decided to go to another of this lady's in August 2010...three years had passed and surely she got better at it, right? I mentioned when signing up that I had issues before and wanted to make sure that these things had been addressed. She said they had.

Well, there were still issues, but she did comply with my medically directed vision needs. The friend that went with me was so appalled, she said she was never going to one of hers again.

Well, I went to another of hers in November, because I totally love the Outer Banks she was holding it there. There were some issues again, but she did comply again with my vision needs. Other tables were complaining about EVERYTHING (it was a hot mess) and many said they would NEVER return. One lady was so upset as she had talked her bff into coming and this was SO not like any "real retreat" she'd ever attended and was afraid it would off-put her friend from ever going to another retreat elsewhere. She even asked me to TELL her friend that they're not all "this bad" since I go to so many "real retreats" each year.

I dared to ask the organizer some questions about this year's retreats for my planning purposes (the price was good...the space was decent, the dates worked and the locations worked for me...I figured I'd just ignore her and her crazy problems and TOTAL disorganization) and asked about one of the issues from Nov. She was quite defensive and said she DID allow me to request a seat and never does that for anybody. I said I appreciated it, but that this was a medically necessary request in order for me to attend and that if it wasn't met, I wasn't ALLOWED to attend, as it was impossible for me to work without proper lighting with my vision issues. She wrote back that she would not meet my needs anymore and that she "heard" I had complained about her crops, food, seating, lighting, etc and could no longer attend her crops!

I've been BANNED by the worst crop organizer in the state...maybe on the East Coast???? I am only upset that I didn't stick with MY BOYCOTT of her! I'm not even sure it is legal for her to deny me due to my vision request since it is so easy to provide for. Oh well. I'm just so mad AT MYSELF! LOL


Carolyn Peaing in VA

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Posted: 1/27/2011 6:17:33 PM
Well, Meowgal I'm sure there's a bunch of peas out there who *may* have considered her retreats but won't any longer. What was she thinking?? Does she not realize the power of the peas??? LOL

Sorry about your vision issues. Has any other retreat organizers made a huge stink about it?? Could you not just bring your own light??

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Posted: 1/27/2011 6:34:05 PM
It's taken me 4 days to read all these intersting, funny, horror stories (a few minutes here & there)

Some of these stories... Holy cow! I've only been to one crop many, many years ago & luckily there were no issues at all!



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Posted: 1/28/2011 10:06:59 AM
Kris: she wrote me saying as long as I didn't say anything negative about her crops to anyone, I could still come! LOL EVERYBODY talks badly about them. Friends ask me about them and I MUST tell them the truth! What should I do...say, "Oh, they're fab" and then when they come back and say, "WHAT were you thinking?" after they spend their hard earned money, I'm the bad guy then! So, I wrote her and said she couldn't control the negative publicity by censoring her croppers, banning them from the group or other means, but the only way she could stop negative comments was to make drastic improvements to her crops. I also said that since we obviously have very different view on how a crop should be managed, I felt it best I not return, especially since I won't be prohibited from talking to other croppers about ANYTHING when I've paid for the event! So, I don't really think it was about my vision needs after all, but the fact she won't stand for any criticism. As for my vision requirements, I have always been accommodated. I bring my own ott-lites and extension cords, so simply need easy access to the plug! Not exactly a big deal!

ETA: I've never named her retreat, or her name, here, but wish I could in order to warn off croppers!


Carolyn Peaing in VA

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Posted: 1/28/2011 2:33:19 PM
I have one that I have not posted.

this crop was put on by a store sometimes mentioned on this site...not a lot but occasionally and it's really not their fault but they will remain anonymous.

I paid to go this crop, it's an hour away from where I live but one of my friends going to the crop lived about 30 minutes away and it's a way to see each other and visit. We arrive there at the same time and apparently the spaces are assigned. She and I have to share a 6 ft table with a total of 4 of us. The two ladies who got there early in the morning said they deserved a table to themselves and were "promised" they wouldn't have to share. there were 3 6 ft tables pushed together to make one long table area. Well, then another friend of mine is at a table with just one other person and she tends to be selfish and of course, she wasn't giving up an inch of space. So, here are 4 ladies on one table and we don't even get to use but half of the table across as well as only 3 ft wide....so half the table top surface.

It was horrible. I got real chummy with the gal next to me because you just have to be to get along under those circumstances. She was a high school or college girl working on an album for a class project. Across from me was my "better" and less selfish friend. We just gave each other looks like we could kill all the selfish ladies at the other tables because they refused to give up any space...remember the tables were hooked together so they could have shared but no.....not an inch.

I have not gone back to those crops...why would I? I paid to be there but if you weren't mean, you suffered and I am not a mean person.

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Posted: 1/28/2011 2:44:55 PM
Seriously. Some of these retreat organizers need to get a clue ... how do they ever think they'll keep running retreats when they don't have any paying customers left??

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Posted: 1/28/2011 9:26:20 PM
meowgal--As the OP of this thread, I give you absolute permission to post the name and location of these retreats!!! Especially after all of the complaints this gal has had--one would think she'd take the hint and make some improvements. So name away!!!


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Posted: 1/28/2011 10:20:31 PM
Meowgal...........holy crap! I was at that crop!!!!!!!!! My friends and I have decided NOT to return. Ugh.

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Posted: 1/29/2011 4:35:04 PM
MeowGal: That was our first time at the Nov. OBX crop for VA SB Retreats. I agree "Hot Mess" pretty much sums it up. I have never seen that much disorganization in my life ... at least at a crop It's a shame it was managed so poorly, as it was a beautiful location, and generous cropping space. I could go on and on, but will stop at saying that you're not alone in your opinion!

S'Mores anyone?

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Posted: 1/29/2011 5:23:24 PM
I went to a CKC crop once I had been taking classes & shopping all day and was looking forward to it. I had gone by myself. At the time I didn't have any IRL that scraped, but I had been to tons of crops. I had taken a day of classes and I went to get my seat well it was horrible they had 8-10 people at like 10 foot round tables. They kept asking who had empty seats and there was no room...I've had more room sitting at a table for a dinner event. I left after they gave out goodie bags and showed what the giveaways were. I just went back to my hotel ordered a pizza and scraped at the desk in my room...I had signed up and paid to crop the 2nd night, but I just went in got my free goodie bag and left. (so did about 20 other people) and there still looked like there was no room.
And they played too many games. Every five minutes it was like a who has "blank" and it was the most basic stuff...like pack of brads, 10 sheets of pp, or a completed layout w/ photo. (the last one was hard, but who can crop when you're being yelled at every 5 minutes)

The trip wasn't a bust for me since I got to take a class and meet Tim Holtz.



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Posted: 1/29/2011 9:31:50 PM
I have been to a few really awful crops but I think the CKC crop after the STL show was the worst! The tables were the rally narrow tables like 15inches wide maybe. My sister and I had been in classes, ate some dinner and got there about 15 minutes into the crop. There were not 2 seats together and there was no one there to help us or even make an anouncement asking for open spots. We left and went to my house. CKC is such a waste of money anymore.

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Posted: 1/30/2011 6:12:30 PM
Hoosier 2 - where in the world was your crop organizer? Ther is no way in the world I would put up with that - NO WAY IN THE WORLD!!! How dare they let one person hog a whole table and squeeze 4 onto a 6 foot table.
Oh HELL no.

Now CKC crops - the worst. Those $20 loud, crowded, fests of pandemonium where the 21st century version of how many people you can squeeze into a phone booth occurs when they challenge themselves to how many people they can assign to one table to crop and pay to do so.
Other than the times CKC charged $25 for the "preview night" and allowed us to make 2 cards, one of which we had to give back so they could give it to the vendors with a special thank you from CK for their attendance, has there been anything so shameless. Charge your customer to make a card, then take the card the customer paid to make, so you can sign your name on it to thank your vendors for coming so your customer can spend money with your vendor. Because generally, on my own, I do not thank vendors for allowing me to spend money with them.

But these days I've gotten fairly desperate, so I have been known to thank vendors for coming to a convention, in hopes they'll come back if they're in business the next year.

myboysnme
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Posted: 1/30/2011 6:44:02 PM

MeowGal: That was our first time at the Nov. OBX crop for VA SB Retreats. I agree "Hot Mess" pretty much sums it up.



That crop organizer has been around for a long time. I've never been to one of her retreats.

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Posted: 1/30/2011 8:25:37 PM
The last all-day crop I went to I was hit by a car in the parking lot while packing up at the end of the crop. Seriously. I ended up being all right, but I was really sore the next day and my back hurt like a ***** for about a week. When the CM consultant heard what happened, she joked that the same thing had happened to her once. She did not take it seriously at all. She never e-mailed me or my mom (who also attended) and asked how I was. I still get invites to attend her crops. I delete them immediately. Who needs it?


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Posted: 1/31/2011 1:31:27 PM
I must admit I have enjoyed reading these stories, but I honestly do feel badly for those who had to endure them.

I don't really have any horror stories (thankfully)...but there are people that I choose not to scrap with and never RSVP when I know they are going (for all the reason named before).

AS for CKC...they don't have the space to have you scrap...it is more like a carnival atmosphere!

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Posted: 1/31/2011 2:04:50 PM
sw scrapper and WOW22....you mean I wasn't the ONLY complainer? hmmm, from her email to me, you'd think I was spreading RUMORS, not merely talking to my other fellow dissatisfied scrap pals! I still spin when I think of her basically telling me to shut up about her bad retreats and I'd then be welcome to come! LOL

There are plenty of really GREAT crops in VA. I really like Mirella's in Leesburg (weekendretreats.com) but wish it were all day Friday instead of basically a two day crop. BUT, the price is amazing even for a two day event AND we are usually able to crop on Fri night after 7...the prizes are decent, the food is pretty darn good and at my first crop with them it turned out to fall on my birthday and they presented me with a big birthday cake and all sang! She is also organized!

I also think Crops Plus at Dulles, VA is beautifully done, although pricey. The food is really good, the prizes are amazing and everything is well organized.

I am also a fan of ScrappinRetreat.com, but wish they had 6 foot tables rather than sharing with a friend....but the spacing around the table does allow for me to bring my own side table!

So, even though I'm "giving up" (!!!) the "Crappy Crop," I still have plenty to fill up my calendar with! AND DO I!!!!

ETA: As I was the one willing to go to her crops even though disorganized, my friends are now all NOT going too, as the ONLY reason they were going to go again was because I was. That "organizer" (and I do use that term loosely!) really screwed herself out of a lot of scrapbookers. I actually think she prefers her core, original group and the rest of us can go to hell. At least that is how it comes across.


Carolyn Peaing in VA

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Posted: 1/31/2011 4:05:37 PM

Other than the times CKC charged $25 for the "preview night" and allowed us to make 2 cards, one of which we had to give back so they could give it to the vendors with a special thank you from CK for their attendance, has there been anything so shameless.


Wow, just wow!
I love this thread.


Shannon

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Posted: 2/1/2011 6:03:57 PM
Meow - I just heard this past weekend at a crop about some VA retreats called Sunshine Scrapbook Retreats; they have a Meet up group for info. The web site is the previous organizers. Apparently they are very affordable and you get a full table. They are in the Williamsburg area and in VA Beach.

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Posted: 2/2/2011 11:50:28 AM
I love the group of women that I crop with. The group has basically been together for about 8 years and we have welcomed many into our folds. We have a no religion, no politics, no current events rule at our big crops. Car seat babies (0-3 months that just lay there. And if they aren't everyone likes to make sure new mom has her hands free) are welcome, but after that you have to be 16 to attend (rule was set when some tweens started scrapping and moms NEEDED a reason to make them stay home). But that doesn't stop me from having a couple stories.

For awhile we had a friend that hosted a monthly crop in her home and everyone was welcomed. I never could predict if I would be able to come, as my H's work time was not regular. Add in the fact that he was traveling for about 40% of the year and my friends just knew that my time with them was precious. The running joke was that they would save me floor space, meaning that I was always welcomed, even it was so crowded that I had to work on the floor.

On month, my H got home from a trip 2 days early on a friday night. We talked and he asked if we could plan some early afternoon family time and then I would leave at 4 for the crop. Might have been a NSD event or something. My friends knew what was happening and said they would save me a seat. I arrived and the hostess comes up to me and mumbles "oh, thank god" and loudly says "Kerry, I've been saving you a seat". She puts me at the spot where she had been working. I was diagonally across from our groups chatty kathy/debbie downer. She and I get along and I don't mind the conversation. But she had brought a friend, who was sitting across from me. She was a professional organizer who had recently started scrapbooking. She spent a whole bunch of time talking about all the books on layouts she had read. You know, always place the picture facing towards center, use a title and date your layout, use a color wheel when choosing your color scheme...oh, the list goes on. At that point, I was a mother of a toddler who had been scrapbooking for at least 8 years. I had gone through my rule following days and had found my style. I didn't need a lesson. Oh, and this woman was overly religious. She belonged to an obsure sect that bordered on cult and she was recruiting. None of this phased me. I was there to do my work and listen to adults talk. Then, the newbie glanced at the layout I was working on. Dora the Explorer had come to a local mall and I was scrapping my photos. Partially cuz I have a boy and partially cuz I like brighter colors, I was using Dora orange paper as background and matting on Dora pink. Only the two colors, no extra frills. Newbie, in a loud voice, annouces "Wow, you're layout is bright". Then she spent the rest of the evening commenting on the brightness of my color choices. Thankfully, they needed to leave early, as the Newbie didn't like to be away from her man after dark. Well, they take everything out to the car and kathy/debbie "accidently" leaves a bag on the table. She came back in and whispered to me that she was sooooo sorry. After they were gone, the hostess sits down across from me and exhales. Turns out Newbie had been worse with the hostess. I was given an extra dessert for my suffering. The next day, kathy/debbie calls the hostess in tears. Apparently, Newbie completely ripped into everything on the car ride home. The food, how my paper gave her a headache, the heathens. But the ultimate offense was the conversation that happened at another table about the Hotter than Hell bike ride that a couple husbands and friends were talking about going to. How dare these women use *that* word. She refused to come to another of our crops and demanded an apology from the hostess, who rolled her eyes and sent a one sentence email. kathy/debbie still apologizes for that woman.

Then our group wanted to do a retreat. We found a B&B about an hour away that wanted to start advetising to scrap and quilt groups. It was a reasonable price and we knew going in that we would have to share beds. We didn't know that all 16 of us would be in the same bed room with a double bathroom with no door. The set up in the downstairs was actually good. Great lighting, lots of space, easy access to the fridge and snack table (which we brought and shared). But the meals were a riot. The place advertised as a classy place to dine. Every meal was served on a paper plate on a plastic gold charger plate. With a side of plain potato chips. Even breakfast. And they served dinner at 5pm, so by 10, you were starving. In the middle of no where. And the owner could talk. She had some great stories, but I lost at least 3 hours of crop time to this woman. In the end, the girl who found the place was horribly embarrassed and on Saturday night drove an hour away and came back with a car full of pizza. We still laugh about the charger plates.

We found an awesome retreat center for our retreats the following year. It's such a great place that my mom flys in from vermont every year to attend. We've had our share of the basic issues, as a matter of fact, the first year, a Christian woman spent the entire weekend trying to convert my Jewish friend, in the most offensive manner, thus causing the no religion, no politics, no current events rule. We've also had to ban all music (we can use head phones) and perfume (floral scent that caused a pregnant woman to throw up for 2 days before she called it quits and went home. It just made the rest of us feel ill). But we've had some great tales too like the year we were there on one friend's birthday. She was asked what she kind of cake she liked, said she wanted a lemon cake. So they made a cake in the shape of a lemon. And iced it too early, so after the 1.5 hour drive to the center, one side fell in. Or last year when one woman went to bed at 11pm (she gets up at 4) and closed her door not realizing it was locked. An hour later one of her room mates went to get something and couldn't get in. They pounded on the door, but first girl never opened the door. In the morning, she complained to someone about how loud things had gotten the night before. There had been a whole bunch of pounding for about an hour. We all burst into laughter and told her what happened. She couldn't believe it. She didn't even know the doors had locks. Thankfully, her roomies were allnighters, so no one was upset. But she has been official put on the "sleep with a snorer" list.

I've had my share of crop experiences, but I wouldn't give up crops ever. They are so much more than scrapbooking and I will admit that this group of women have been a great support through out the divorce process.

Kerry

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Well, it was a more a bad dream than a nightmare. Actually, though, it was just 3 things that happened, but it was still a fun crop.

First, I got my SUV stuck in a ditch while parking to unload. I spent the first hour of the crop waiting for some maintenance guys to come and tow me out. Of course, my mother took pictures! lol

Then, I broke my trimmer. I just busted the rotary part right off. So, I had to be that annoying fellow cropper who kept borrowing stuff from her neighbor. Luckily, it was my sister.

Then, I ran out of adhesive. I completely suck at packing for crops, apparently. lol

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Posted: 2/8/2011 8:31:33 PM
I think the only "bad" crops I've been to are the ones that were (several years ago!) done women from a certain scrapbooking company that (at the time) did not do the lumpy embellished pages that I liked to do, and all evening they kept watching me add things to my pages(eyelets, buttons, ribbons, etc) like I was from another planet! LOL




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Posted: 5/13/2011 1:57:19 PM
BTT for new stories.
And so the thread isn't lost.


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Posted: 5/13/2011 6:30:54 PM
I was at a three day event on NSBD weekend. It was 6 different classes/workshops.

I attended all of them one other woman attended 5. She had the biggest case of scrapbook celebrity worship I have ever seen. To the point of asking the Canadian instructor why Rona had quit the 3 doors or whatever it was called. And all about Becky. Then got into how Tim H must love all the 50ish women chasing after him. She got most graphic as to what she would do. It was

Another woman didn't bring any adhesive, trimmer, because it hadn't been on the list. From that point on she critized and critized everything.


I had an absolute blast.


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Posted: 5/13/2011 6:58:19 PM
All day/All night crop- two rival groups attending and the "b" word starting flying from one group. Eek. It really hurt the LSS's ;later events.


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Posted: 5/13/2011 8:37:22 PM
Scrapbook gangs!!


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Posted: 5/13/2011 8:48:59 PM
@Misty..............your newbie musta been a JW! not "almost a cult" -- but a CULT, indeed!!!!


my scrappy goals for 2012:
. finish all the bits and pieces on LOs which are missing a letter, or a picture needs to be reprinted, etc.
. finish up H's albums
. make an acrylic album
. finish my heritage albums
. sort Dad's genealogy stuff
. try to finish up the several albums that are started; label them; move them downstairs where they can be enjoyed
. make mini albums
. oh, yeah, get my [s]crap place organized & KEEP IT NEAT!


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Posted: 5/14/2011 9:22:08 AM
Mine isn't terrible but just shows how some LSS owners pay special attention to special people. The store used to have a potluck crop. Seems a little weird-I don't know any of you so not so sure I want to eat what you made. So I stuck to my own stuff and what my friend brought. I made an effort to get off work early to get their early so my friend and I could sit together. I was there at least half an hour before anyone else showed up(my friend was there too). After the last person arrived which was more than an hour after it started-the owner asked us to move our spots so someone else could sit there. I apologized to her and said "I am sorry that she was late and I was early enough to get the seat I wanted. Maybe you should start assigned seating-also I have been cropping for an hour. I am not moving all my gear now." The owner was rude and big surprise-her store was only open for a year.

I have also worked for store that holds crops and let me tell you I have never seen a night go smoothly when someone brings a baby. Most of the time the other croppers complain that they came to get away-not be exposed to someone elses kids:/

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Posted: 5/14/2011 1:57:17 PM

I have never been to a crop, guess my making paper bag mini albums would not go over very well...lol


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Posted: 5/14/2011 5:59:22 PM
I used to be part of a local scrapbook club. We had a crop every month (just show up and crop, not organized) and then once a year, we had a huge crop with shirts, prizes, etc. The girls organzing it did an amazing job, getting super prizes like Cricuts. For the grand prize, you had 'tickets'-you got one for helping set up, bringing snacks, etc, so the more you did, the more tickets you got and you increased your chances of winning. And the tickets were on the honor system. You told the crop organizer what you did and she gave you the amount of tickets.
There was one loudmouth who never did ANYTHING to help but always lied about it. What could the organizer do? So she gave her the tickets.
Guess who won the grand prize?

Soon after that, a huge amount of the club members left, me being one of them. I hated that since I'd been there since the beginning but could not take any more of the loudmouth.


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Posted: 5/14/2011 6:10:57 PM
Mine isn't terrible but just shows how some LSS owners pay special attention to special people. The store used to have a potluck crop. Seems a little weird-I don't know any of you so not so sure I want to eat what you made. So I stuck to my own stuff and what my friend brought. I made an effort to get off work early to get their early so my friend and I could sit together. I was there at least half an hour before anyone else showed up(my friend was there too). After the last person arrived which was more than an hour after it started-the owner asked us to move our spots so someone else could sit there. I apologized to her and said "I am sorry that she was late and I was early enough to get the seat I wanted. Maybe you should start assigned seating-also I have been cropping for an hour. I am not moving all my gear now." The owner was rude and big surprise-her store was only open for a year.

I have also worked for store that holds crops and let me tell you I have never seen a night go smoothly when someone brings a baby. Most of the time the other croppers complain that they came to get away-not be exposed to someone elses kids:/

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Posted: 7/29/2011 2:22:33 PM
bumping for Shih Tzu Mommy


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Posted: 7/29/2011 3:12:04 PM
Okay, I'm working backwards and have read four or five pages. All I can say is and, this is excellent motivation for me to get my table cleared off to I can scrap at home. lol...

I do have one story, but it's not nearly as much of a nightmare as some of these. I started scrapping with CM as so many of us did. My CM consultant is a big whig here in Northern Virginia and has a lovely setup in her home. Plenty of room to scrap, she always had whatever product we wanted to buy, she always had helpful suggestions if we wanted them, no kids allowed, clean, quiet, etc. Lovely. So one day I discovered that a mom from my kids' elementary school was also a CM consultant and she lived THREE BLOCKS from me. (I had to drive for at least 30-45 minutes to the other lady.)

Now, I had no intention of giving up my main gal, but I thought it would be fun to go to another crop every once in awhile since she was so close. Of course I understand that everyone is different, and blah blah blah. But in my mind I associated "CM" with "organized, nice set up". So off I went to her house. There were five of us. All squeezed in around her round dining room table. Only enough room to put the one layout in front of us. (although of course this was in the early CM days so we didn't have anything else except the accepted CM stuff). One lady put the album pages she finished down on the floor and along came the family dog who walked all over them!

Then the hostess came out with drinks for us and set the pitcher of iced tea right in the middle of the table! My regular CM lady had DRILLED into our heads about never ever putting food or drink near the scrapping tables. She always set up food and drinks in a nice little side room, with some comfy chairs if people wanted to sit a bit and have something to eat. I was horrified and snatched up most of my stuff except the one page I was working on. I figured if something spilled I could grab that quickly. If not then it would just be the one page that was lost.

Her bathroom was dirty. The kitchen was dirty. (I know I'm not Miss Neat but my kitchen and bathrooms are clean. We're talking about taking care of germs, not just some dust or clutter!)

Anyway, I know I was spoiled by my regular lady. And I never ever went back to the neighborhood gal and finally she stopped calling.



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Posted: 7/29/2011 6:55:54 PM
I enjoy reading these horror stories, which mostly trump mine! All in all, I LOVE going to retreats and go to as many weekend crop retreats as I can possibly attend! I've already been to three this summer and they were all FABULOUS!!!! I am fortunate that Virginia seems to have a lot of retreat organizers! They're so popular I'm actually on the WAITING list for two this fall..go figure...and here we are with the economy in the toilet but with scrapbook retreats sold out!


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Posted: 7/29/2011 8:15:18 PM
Thanks for bumping. There were a few pages I needed to read and man alive, does this make me laugh every time I see it!

I think this should be an honorary sticky post around NSD or something!



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Posted: 8/23/2011 3:23:38 PM
Okay, after 18 years of paper crafting and 15 years of scrapbooking, I went to my first, and probably my last, crop...ever.

To preface, my thoughts about crops are that I would would rather spend the money on product. I get the whole social aspect of crops, but I'm cheap.

Anyways, a co-worker had purchased a spot at a crop that raised money for the Stephanie Spielman Fund for Breast Cancer Research. As her son made some type of sports championship and the dates conflicted, she knew that I scrapbooked and she asked if I wanted the ticket. Since it was a weekend that the hubby and son were at Scout summer camp, I thought I would go. So I reimbursed her for the ticket.

It was a crop at a nice hotel and we had the conference room for scrapping. There were 50 tables there and 2 people to a table. Nice big tables.

I got there about two hours before it started and checked into my hotel room, I went down to the conference room and peeked in, the lady/owner running the event greeted me and invited me in. I said, "Oh that's okay, I'm here early, I just wanted to know where the conference room was." She said, "Go ahead and put your stuff at the table you want, because we are completely sold out. We don't have assigned seating." I said, "Okay, I'll go get my stuff from my room."

So I go and get the stuff from my room and I put it on a table clear at the end of the room, last table, furthest chair, as I thought that since I was by myself, I wouldn't break up the situation where people wanted to sit next to each other.

I asked the Owner if she needed any help as she was by herself and she was very busy. She said sure as her helper hadn't arrived yet. So I helped her carry many items from her SUV, I set up the drinks, snacks, put tablecloths on her display tables, I stacked her empty boxes for her and I helped her carry things up to her room. I mentioned that I was here for "X" and she said, oh yes, X called me and told me about the switch. She was a very nice lady and she had some very nice door prizes and raffles.

Anyways, about a ½ hour before the event started, people started to arrive, so she manned the registration and check-in thing and her helper finally arrived. So I checked in at registration and sat down at my table and started some lay-outs.

Having read this thread, I kept my items on my half of the table and I actually had just 1 rolling tote (which I had never used, but I had won at a LSS opening). I scrap by using the divided page protectors so my pages are more like embellished photo albums. Your basic slide the pictures in, add a journaling card, stickers, and a title, boom, I'm done with a page. Sometimes I crop the pictures down and adhere them to paper. I do spend time picking out the pictures and I embellish the title, journaling card etc.

I made small talk with the ladies around me, but basically I was just listening to people around me. Everything is very nice, we had periodic funny games for small door prizes, no loud or annoying music, nice cold diet pop and crunchy snacks. Everyone is playing nice in the sandbox.

About THREE hours into the event, I look up and notice that 2 tables down from me, a group of two ladies have just arrived, all toting 3-4 rolling totes each, talking very loudly. They gather around the table with 1 older lady at it which is 2 tables down from me. They whisper among themselves, look at me, whisper among themselves. This goes on for about 5 minutes. So obviously, one of them has to sit with me unless they want to cram in at 1 table. The three of them know each and I think the older lady is the mother to one of the two ladies.

So anyhoo, finally 1 of them approaches me and asks me if I would mind moving and share the table with the older lady, so that the 2 of them can sit together "because she (the older lady) doesn't mind sitting with you". (mind sitting with me, mind sitting with me, I'm thinking, should I be offended by her choice of words?)

By now, I do have my stuff spread out and organized on my half of the table. So I said, "Well, the crop started 3 hours ago, if you had asked me earlier when the crop first started, I would have moved, but now my stuff is out and organized, so I don't want to move. But one of you can sit at this table. "

(Crickets).

You would think I uttered a foul word. Everyone in the room has stopped and is looking at me. I'm thinking "Have I committed a crop faux pas?" One of them says, "Well, 'D' doesn't want to pack up and move her stuff. " She looks at me significantly. However, I reply, "Well, neither do I."

So the two ladies slink away back to the table and several minutes ensue of the two of muttering, looking at me, muttering, looking at me, muttering, looking at me. Then one of them flounces off to the owner and says something to her, she appears to not like the answer she got from the owner, so she flounces back to the table, mutters to the other two, more dirty looks at me, and then wham! the two of them start slamming items on their table, so obviously the three of them have decided to share a table.

Anyways, I crop until dawn and then I go to my room for a nap. I come back 3 hours later. The three of them aren't there, but the ladies at the table behind me and next to me are. I ask them, "Did I do something wrong in not moving?" They said, "Oh no, I wouldn't have moved either, not a couple of hours into the event. Don't worry about it." I offer anyone around me the other half of the table to put their items on that need to be dried, almost everyone around me has pages on the other half of my table.

They have 50/50 raffles at the crop and I win one of them, so I donate my half to donate to the SS Breast Cancer Fund, which is what most of the 50/50 winners were doing.

So I keep on cropping and since I use the divided page protectors, I got a lot of pages done over the entire crop. They had been having contests along the way and the owner comes down to my table to check in and says, "Oh you got a lot of pages done, you should enter the contest for most pages done at the end of the crop." I said, "Oh these aren't hard to do compared to other pages that take a lot more time." She said, " A page is a page. Go ahead and enter."

So at the end of the crop, I enter my total number of pages and I win. It's a really nice huge gift basket with tons of stuff. Cricut cartridges, embellishments, glimmer mists, tools, flowers, really nice paper and sticker sets, Cropper Hopper storage, Macy's gift certificate, scrap store GC. I mean, it's a very nice basket.

Since the ladies around me (not the mean table) have been so nice, I take out what I want and offer the rest to them as I don't use the Cricut much and I'll never use the girly and bling paper and flowers.

So then mean table is complaining to the owner that I had won the grand prize and that my pages aren't "real pages" and I "wasn't really scrapbooking." Mind you that I can hear this entire conversation. The nice ladies around me are rolling their eyes and laughing at the mean "girls". The owner tells the meaners that my pages are scrapbooking and Ali Edwards does the same thing with the divided page protectors.

Anyways, on the way out, the three of them were there in the hallway outside the restrooms and at first, I wasn't going to say anything to them, but since one of them gave me a dirty look as I passed, I stopped and said, "This was my first crop, and I just want you to know that I think you two are the rudest and most selfish people that I have met for a long time. You got rude with me when I didn't inconvenience myself due to you being 3 hours late. If you want to sit together in the future, then get here early or on time."

So at that, I turned on my heel and I "flounced" away.

The owner heard what I said and apologized again for their behavior and said for me not to worry about them as they were complainers and no one pays attention to them. I said I understand, but I am many years out of junior high and I don't need these games.



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Posted: 8/23/2011 4:12:14 PM
Wow! I love the way you handled this, and it sounds like you deserved the prize after having to put up with those ladies.

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Posted: 8/23/2011 7:02:07 PM
Merry Mom,

I bet the other croppers wanted to applaud you! I attend up to 4 day retreats. The majority add so much fun to the events that it usually makes up for the rare bad apple. sounds like you had at least 2 ill mannered women in your group. Hope you still enjoyed yourself...

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Posted: 8/23/2011 8:38:04 PM
I love weekend crops! I just love them! Going to one in september and another in october. Horror stories or not.. our little group of friends always laugh til we cry (or pee, whichever happens first for the older one LOL) and get alot done.

I've learned my ipod and earbuds are my friends when things get rough there!



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Posted: 8/29/2011 10:45:30 AM
BTT to read pages 8-14

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Posted: 8/29/2011 11:03:45 AM
MerryMom937 you handled that in a very classy way, even those so called ladies didn't deserve it. Good for you for not moving!


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Posted: 8/29/2011 12:58:45 PM
Merrymom937 right on! You don't have to take people's rude behavior you did right.

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Posted: 8/29/2011 1:57:58 PM
I can't believe I've missed this thread for the years it's been growing! I even searched for my name on each page just to make sure I haven't told my all-time worst crop horror story.

This is more a dysfunctional family story but it happened at a crop. My friends and I went for many years to a church camp sb retreat. For a time, my sister-in-law, who is far from my favorite person, invited herself along and parked herself at our table. SIL normally does not participate in conversation unless she's the center of attention, and is remarkably self-absorbed. She was coming out of a bad marriage at the time, and was angry with my dh because, after all, that man she'd been married to for 14 miserable years was dh's friend first.

So SIL pulls out a big stack of heritage photos she's gotten from her mom (my mil) of SIL and my dh, her only sibling, as children. She pulls out a big ol' CM deckle cutter and starts cropping my dh (sweet little blonde boy that he was!) out of EVERY photo. Two kids in front of Christmas tree...WHACK. One kid in front of half a tree. Two kids with Easter baskets...WHACK. One kid, one basket. I asked her to stop until I could scan the photos, she refused and continued WHACKing my dh out of the family photos. I was too shocked to deal rationally (how can you deal rationally with a crazy woman anyway?) and didn't dare react lest I start a major hissy fit! So my friends sprang into action...one distracting my SIL while the other dove under the table to rescue the little blonde boy from the scraps on the floor, another taking SIL up to the dessert table while the rest of us stole the best photos of dh from the "awaiting WHACKing" pile on the table. My friends basically kept me sane, bless their hearts!

When I got home from this nightmare weekend, dh was so horrified he went to his mom and begged every remaining photo from her. His dad felt so bad he dug out the slides SIL didn't know existed and I got some great photos from scanning them. So it all worked out fine in the end...but the event is still legendary among my scrapping friends! We stopped going to publicly-advertised retreats about then, and set up our own instead.

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Posted: 8/29/2011 3:19:52 PM
That is a nightmare. I saw a lady at a crop cutting heritage photos of her mom into small ovals. The thing is her mom was at historic sites and other places with really cool backgrounds and she cut all of it away and threw it in the trash.

I saw this last year at another crop; the lady was just hacking off all of the background; even the cool old kitchen counter with appliances and canisters from the 1930's.

But cutting out your own brother from old family photos? That takes things to a new level of crazy.

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Posted: 8/29/2011 3:22:54 PM
This past weekend, my friends and I paid a fortune to go to Creative Escape and in the first few classes kept ending up by this loud, blabby woman that felt the need to verbalize everything her hands were doing. (She was a teacher - we all got to know right quick)

So everyone got to enjoy her projects step-by-step!!!!! What a treat. She also said,"I am probably driving you crazy." Yuh-Huh! No one said anything, including her friend she was with. More than once she announced that she "wasn't really a scrapbooker" Hello! You can go home now!

To top it off, she didn't "care for" Ali or Heidi (faint, faint) and we had a great laugh when we saw her leave the closing ceremonies before they were over.

Since we were in groups and she was always going to be in ours, we learned to scan the line and room before plunking down our stuff anywhere near her.

She was completely oblivious of course!


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Posted: 9/21/2011 12:52:52 PM
bump

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Posted: 9/21/2011 12:55:59 PM
This thread always shows back up as I'm getting prepared for my weekend crops. I love it!!!!!

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Posted: 9/21/2011 3:05:20 PM
I went to a crop with several girls I worked with & they weren't scrapbookers.

So of course they had no supplies! Well, I had alot of goodies & neat tools--none of which I could use without having to wait. Yep, all my stuff was being used by them!

As I had the most scrapping experience, I spent my $ to have others use my stuff & I constantly got interrupted to teach/advise others. When I got home I was tired (as I had worked all day) & frustrated that I hardly got any scrapping done.

Now, I rarely go to crops. I no longer work, so I scrap after my DH & DS's are asleep (as I prefer to scrap when I am alone--no interruptions).

I wouldn't mind scrapping with other experienced/independent scrappers, as I would enjoy the time being with others who know the lingo and have their own stuff and know how to use/take care of stuff. But I have turned into a "homebody" and don't want to transport all my stuff anymore.


I LOVE to talk about scrapbooking!!

Margaret




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Posted: 9/21/2011 3:15:37 PM
Does the number work strangely on this thread for anyone else? I've seen a page 14 for months on the General Scrappin board, but when I open the thread page 14 is empty. You have to click back to page 13 to read.

Anyone? Maybe adding posts will move it to page 14 and fix the problem? Or maybe it's just me

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Posted: 9/21/2011 3:48:38 PM
This is one of my fave threads!

A gentle correction to Meowgal's post:

Mirella's crops in Leesburg are WeekendMemories, not WeekendRetreats.

See you in December!


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