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Posted 7/13/2008 by bgdmom in General Scrappin'


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Posted: 7/13/2008 9:26:46 AM
Get ready for this. You will no longer have to hunt for an employee at M's ! Starting soon we will be wearing the eye-catching, oh so attractive, COMPLETELY creative colors- get ready- BLACK AND KHAKI!!!!!
There are just so many words in my head about this but I need and like my job. I just feel like they are sucking our creative souls away . Oh and for the fabulous footwear? White or black tennis shoes. This is going to be fun to add a personal touch to.
Thank GD that haven't issued hats (yet)."Do you want fries with that?" So, what is the general consensus??


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Posted: 7/13/2008 9:31:11 AM
oh fun! at least at Target you get RED by your face!! I always have to remember NOT to wear red when I go to Target because everybody then thinks I work there!! Have fun!!

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Posted: 7/13/2008 9:33:57 AM
Thx, Deanna! It's going to be fun to see what my fellow employees do to individualize

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Posted: 7/13/2008 9:46:18 AM the girl that barely wears clothes at my M's will have to get dressed in the morning????? Oooh, and the manager in short skirts on ladders won't be able to flash me!!

I'm sorry for you, bdgmom, but happy for me!! lol


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Posted: 7/13/2008 9:46:43 AM
I am so glad we don't have to wear special colors at my work. However, I still get a million and one questions as to whether I work at HL EVEN when I have my smock or vest on!

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Posted: 7/13/2008 10:10:35 AM
Black is so fun in the summer...... I wear dark blue in the sun...
Stocking shelves you black will be dusted in whites and greys(fun in the yarn dept too, very clorful!) and your Khaki pants will be spotted, stained and ripped.. Oh so great when you must clean up spilled and splattered paints. OH OH Let me try the spray paint too!!...... Have fun!!

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Posted: 7/13/2008 10:17:15 AM
well, honestly, it will look alot better than the crap the m's employees around here wear. i cant belive they actually leave the house like they do, but then they go to a JOB like that

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Posted: 7/13/2008 10:31:17 AM
Do you still get to wear the flashy red vest?


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Posted: 7/13/2008 10:44:47 AM
Well this could be because a change in the M's DH works for a
grocery store and the President of Operations went to M's Corp. for more $$$$$$....She is full of good!


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Posted: 7/13/2008 10:46:51 AM
At WM we wear Navy and Khaki. At first it was a hassel but now it is so routine that I don't worry about it. Plus it saves wear and tear on my clothes.

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Posted: 7/13/2008 5:20:08 PM
What's the big deal? People wear uniforms to work all of the time.
I have to wear blueberry blue scrubs to work. Once, when a fellow RN had a seizure, and we all responded...we called it CODE BLUEBERRY.

Move on. At least you can personalize it a bit.

The only way we can personalize it is the name on our badge.

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Posted: 7/13/2008 6:37:46 PM
Companies usually institute uniforms as a way of equaling the playing field for how their employees dress. Alot of times you have the normal crew that dresses great, always clean, orderly, and professional. Then you have the people that look like they rolled out of bed (and uh some look like the came straight from the red light district of the streets kwim??) Unfortually for most managers this will continue even after uniforms are mandated! I have some people that work for me and I swear even though we give them 5 uniforms if they are full time it doesn't look like they wash them from week to week!

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Posted: 7/13/2008 6:46:12 PM
I'm with the other Peas who are excited that the employees will have to 'get dressed' and/or wear something decent. Thank goodness.

I'm sorry you're not happy about it. I'm sure you'll figure out how spice it up and make it your own!

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Posted: 7/13/2008 7:35:18 PM
I kind of like the employees all to look the same - at least I can identify them from the customers.


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Posted: 7/13/2008 8:17:38 PM
Does this extend to management? My clerks all seem to be dressed decent but at one of my Mike's the manager could really use some new clothes...


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Posted: 7/13/2008 8:40:33 PM
I have to agree w/the others I really don't see the big deal. We have to were a particular color of scrubs at work depending on your position that way it is easy to identify what position someone has for example: Nurses where one color, techs another, respiratory therapist another, xray yet another. Honestly I find it helpful not only at work but it is also a no brainer when I have to get dressed for work.

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Posted: 7/13/2008 8:53:57 PM
Well...I agree with both sides.

I get where it will be easier to "spot" the employees...but that's why we wear aprons now...and people know that I work there, even if I'm not on the clock. I do think people should look presentable at all times too.

I don't mind the black shirts, but maybe jeans instead of khaki pants. I know how dirty my jeans get now, and you can bet I'm not buying a bunch of new clothes just for work - I'll wear them stained I guess. And I would doubt that we will get to jazz them up - at least from what I've heard. They have even said that we can only have white or black tennis shoes, with the only color being the logo. Good luck to me for finding shoes (I already have enough issues because I have bad arches!).



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Posted: 7/13/2008 10:18:56 PM
I need to see the other M's. There has only been a couple of employees at our store who dressed like crap. They either didn't last long or our mgr. told them to clean it up. As for the rest of us- it's nice shirts/ blouses and pants with no holes and they must be clean. The mgrs. are always neat and clean and the main mgr. wears very nice clothes. I feel for you all that have slobs at your stores! Yes, we wear the red aprons. According to a survey the majority of customers said they had a hard time finding store employees. HMMM. You would think the red aprons would give us away
ArtsyK- Yeah, I've got foot and back issues and only wear Crocs or Earth Vegans. The note from corporate says they are giving us some time to adapt and according to my mgr. they will be "insisting" on the khaki and shirt combo. I'm just going to get one outfit at a time.
The shoes ? That will be interesting.


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Posted: 7/14/2008 12:22:15 AM
Try wearing BDU's and black boots everyday.

I agree khaki isn't the best color choice for pants, they get dirty too easily.

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Posted: 7/14/2008 1:26:09 AM
That is SO S T U P I D !!!!!!! I N E V E R have a problem identifying a M's employee from customers E V E R !!!!! MOST customers I have seen don't walk around the store wearing a V E S T and a nametag etc. Maybe I'm just overly bright but I always avoid asking store information questions to the people who aren't wearing a name badge or VEST !!!! I used to work retail and had to wear the crap-in-a handbag outfit that the OP is now required to wear! I found it to be insulting and degrading!!! Honestly WHITE/Tan just does NOT look right on me and there of course are other reasons also as to why that is a SHI- - Y requirement !!! To the nurses etc. that said the OP should just get over it because THEY are required to wear a differnt color than certain other medical personnel's really not the same thing for people in retail because they generally don't receive the same amount of respect that someone in your field does, so it wouldn't matter if you wore a crumpled paper bag - you'd still be perceived differently than the OP ! Isn't it bad enough that retail is already the shittiest/hardest occupation out there? Why should the A$$e$ making the BIG BUCKS be able to dress their employees in demeaning crap like a bunch of little clones and then tattoo their name to their chest on top of it all ! I had SO MUCH RESPECT for M's BECAUSE they did NOT require their employees to wear bull$hit!!! NO respect NOW morons !!!!! OP I wish you the BEST! Appreciate you just BEING there when I walk in, and I for one, don't even require that you GREET me! (which is another demeaning piece of retail! Is it required that the personnel in a drs. office stop what they are doing and GREET me when I walk in ???? ) I'm feeling your pain OP! HOPEFULLY if there is a God (and I believe there is!) Someday the WHITE/BLACK shoe will be on the OTHER foot so to speak, and the arrogant little idiots will have to now WEAR it! Good Luck to you and maybe you will find that it is easier for YOU to accept than it was for me! Give it a chance! Maybe it won't be so bad !


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Posted: 7/14/2008 6:28:33 AM
Well now.
OP: Im sorry you are not thrilled about the new uniforms. I prefer that the employess look like part of a "team" a little beyond their red vest and name tag. It would be nice if they would provide you a yearly stipend, to help offset some of the expense of specific work wear.

I think if you have to wear specific clothing (not sure) you can deduct this from your taxes.

I would much rather that the new M's management put some focus on educating their employees. ( Not you OP, you seem to be very knowledgeable) But the majority of folks I've dealt with at M's are clueless, rude, and not interested in being there.

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Posted: 7/14/2008 8:33:42 AM
I taught at a learning center where we could only wear navy in the summer & khaki in winter w/white, navy golf shirts. Then they made everyone order shirts w/the logo on it & you could only wear brown, black or white shoes. Yeah, my khaki pants will never be the same & the preschool where I taught before had no dress code, so I was able to dress like a teacher - cute painted shirts, etc. It did take the thought process out of getting dressed.


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Posted: 7/14/2008 10:31:36 AM
I heard some employees talking about this the other day. One lady said "It's because people said they can't find us on the store." When I can't find an employee, it's not because I can't see their red's because they're never on the floor at my closest M's (they are at other M's, just not the one I go to the most).
How is black and khaki going to help? Red seems brighter...
I'm sorry you're dealing with corporate crap...I hate it (I work for one of the biggest pharmacies and their corporate crap is ridiculous).

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Posted: 7/14/2008 11:03:55 AM
I wish I had to wear a uniform to work. I spend too much time worrying about what I'm going to wear every day. It would be great not to have to think about it.

But about M's... I have trouble finding their employee's because there are none out on the floor. Not because of their clothing.


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Posted: 7/15/2008 12:08:27 AM
I hear you bgd - I literally bought brand new shoes (with special inserts because i have plantar fasciitis) and the next day that dress code came out and it says no open back shoes. GRR. But they are giving us 2 months so it's better than "effective immediately" - especially on the wallet!

For those of you that mentioned there not being employees on the time they ask you to fill out a survey, find somewhere to tell them that it's not that you can't "find" us, but that we aren't there. We want to put more people on the floor but we can't. We have payroll restrictions and it's hard. You could put us in neon orange outfits and it won't matter if there aren't enough actual people working to help everyone. I can't tell you how many times I'm being paged to 3 different places at once, meanwhile 3 customers are trying to ask me questions too. I want to help everyone but I'm only 1 person


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Posted: 7/15/2008 9:47:30 PM
Yikes, don't say neon orange too loud "they" might think it's a better idea! I've also got Plantar Fasciitis. Do you think M's would pay for our shoes if we had a P.F. group?? RIGHT!


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Posted: 7/15/2008 10:26:02 PM
I don't visit M's as much as I WANT to, (ever since that thread on the cute $1 stamps I've been really wanting to go). It's amazing too...considering it's technically just "a block" away. Yes, you can slap my hand now!

ANYWAY, I think what makes me most shocked by this post is...the color coordination. That's about it. Uniforms will always be a HOT topic

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Posted: 7/16/2008 1:11:13 AM

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Posted: 7/16/2008 6:50:28 AM

ZIN: Just let it out! Dont hold back!

a girl in scrubs (ceil blue, komen pink or black only) who is not respected, but is required to greet all patients, make eye contact, and smile when they walk in the office.

Now THAT'S just FUNNY!!!! LOL! GREAT post!

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Posted: 7/16/2008 7:37:07 AM
I'm sorry you aren't happy, but maybe it will end up being a good thing like the op said. I wonder if they picked black because a lot of people like it since it is slimming. At least black and khaki are neutral.

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Posted: 3/15/2012 10:35:56 AM
I realize how late I am to this forum, but I had to reply based on simple priciples I have learns and gained through my 9 years of working in retail both as a sales floor team member for Target, an Executive Team Leader for Target, and a Store Mangaer for a specialty mall-based clothing company.

I worked for Target for 5 years. Red and Khaki is no big deal. Black and Khaki, equally, is no big deal. You can still find clothing in black that fits your personal style.

It is going to be "hot" in any store -- lots of productivity moving around (hopefully), and many people all in one place with no open windows for air flow. No matter what color you are wearing (as long as your are dressed properly for working with the public) -- will be warm. That is good. That means you are being PRODUCTIVE in retail. Get an office job if you want AC constantly and a comfy place to sit.

On the bright side of the spending money just for work clothing that you may never wear outside of work -- I understande how that drains the wallet -- as I said -- I did it for 5 years. IF the company literally stated that a certain dress code is a UNIFORM, and is refered to as a UNIFORM, then you can save all receipts for work clothing and write them off as uniforms on your tax forms. Sweet deal -- especially if are in a state that taxes clothing -- you can also write off all tax paid also. I know at Target it is "preferred" that ALL store team members wear a SOLID red shirt (shoulders and midriff covered, non-logo other than a Target polo/shirt bullseye logo), and khaki colored pants. They do this so they do not have to supply a uniform. Pretty sure you may still be able to write it off of taxes.

You get used to it. I went to a clothing store as store manager and can wear whatever I want as long as it doesn't advertise one of our competitors, and looks like it is the same style as what we sell. Flip Flops are not fun to work shipment in. Skinny jeans and jeggings are not great for doing floorsets. Knee-high boots have no support. I had an assistant manager who I had to coach constantly for inappropriate coverage (shirts too low cut or skirts too high-cut). So NO uniform breeds its own issues.

There will never be a solution to work dress in retail that everyone agrees with. BUT. Retail is a SERVICE INDUSTRY. Customer experience is KEY. Without customers we would be unemployed like the many Americans unemployed today. Customer perception is your bread and butter. Customers like EASE OF SHOPPING -- hand in hand with that -- easy identifying those who are working there to give EXCEPTIONAL customer service.

Greeting every customer is a luxury that TRUST ME -- even if you THINK customers don't notice or appreciate it -- they DO. Do you enjoy walking into a store and not being acknowledged? Do you WANT to spend your hard-earned money on products if the environment in a store is cold and unwelcoming? Happy people = willingness to spend.

If you don't understand or appreciate the KEY CORE CONCEPTS of RETAIL and customer experience, then you don't belong in a retail environment. Not an insult, a reality.

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Posted: 3/15/2012 11:21:26 AM
I really don't care what color the employees are wearing as long as

1) I can easily identify them as employees
2) They are helpful/ knowledgeable
3) They don't smell like cigarette smoke


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Posted: 3/15/2012 12:07:07 PM
LOL@wearing red at Target. I never thought about that!

Wow, black and khaki sucks for customers because you'll blend in with all other customers! M's employees are hard enough to find as is. Why don't they just give you a colorful vest to wear on top of your own clothes?

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Posted: 3/15/2012 12:25:12 PM

I really don't care what color the employees are wearing as long as

1) I can easily identify them as employees
2) They are helpful/ knowledgeable

THIS. i will also add: if they are courteous and readily available. i, for one, am glad M's is finally getting a uniform dress code so you can identify who the workers are. the stores are already cluttered and crowded as it is.

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Posted: 3/15/2012 12:33:19 PM
really? I'm pretty sure ours has already been wearing that.

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Posted: 3/15/2012 12:59:21 PM

really? I'm pretty sure ours has already been wearing that.

That's b/c this post is almost 4 years old! I was confused at first for the same reason. So...


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Posted: 3/15/2012 1:28:40 PM
Wow! Talk about a zombie thread! LOL! Where do people find this obscure stuff?

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Posted: 3/15/2012 1:36:11 PM
I am SO sorry.


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Posted: 3/15/2012 3:28:51 PM

You get used to it.
Since this theread is from 2008, I suspect that the OP either got used to it or found a new place to work by now.

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Posted: 3/15/2012 3:47:04 PM
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