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Posted 2/24/2009 by Nicole in TX in General Scrappin'
 

Nicole in TX
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Posted: 2/24/2009 7:25:19 PM
If you submit to these guys, you may want to check out

This thread

and

This thread

Somebody is not being honest with their contributors and conducting business as usual.



charisse.
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Posted: 2/24/2009 7:37:53 PM
Interesting, totally didn't know this was going on!

Thanks for the heads up


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Posted: 2/24/2009 7:41:34 PM
That is really sad. But I guess it shouldn't be a shock with the current economy. And I haven't been very happy with these publications lately.


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purpledaisy
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Posted: 2/24/2009 8:08:22 PM
That's really a shame. I know CK hasn't been that great lately, but it seems like they are turning around the last couple months.


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Posted: 2/24/2009 8:47:14 PM
It is sad. Scrapbook Update just posted an article about this tonight. You can read it here: CK Media article


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Nicole in TX
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Posted: 2/24/2009 9:47:48 PM
I just emailed and this is the response I got:

"I have three invoices in the system totaling $495. You will be getting a letter this week explaining your options. "

Um, my option is to have you pay me....



johnmac44
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Posted: 2/24/2009 11:09:32 PM
I just asked my friend (a store owner) and she pays a lot more than $150 a month to advertise her store. There was never a deal for $150 offered to her and she's been a customer listed in their magazines for at least 5 years now. She said it keeps going up even though there are fewer magazines where her name is published.

I read on another board that some scrapper is owed over $1000. You know, once it got to be so much, I'd stop contributing. I don't work for free and if the agreement is these people get paid cold hard cash for their pages (good or not) then they should get the money.

The article mentions the creditors taking cents on the dollar to erase the debt - whats being offered the scrappers that are owed money? Will that be outlined in the 'details'?

I'd love to cancel my subscription now.

Flip_pea_ng
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Posted: 2/25/2009 2:04:15 AM
Nice.

I've been boycotting CK since the HOF drama, decided to sub again with their 2 for 1 deal and then this.......

Ugh. Should have stuck to my guns. I guess there goes my 25bucks. They sure cashed that baby fast. Still no issue though. We'll see.



DeborahL591
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Posted: 2/25/2009 5:40:50 AM
Okay, I agree...but I'm a pollyanna...

At least they are taking reponsiblity and trying to get the people that owe them money to pay so that they can pay their own bills. They should pay everyone for submission and well as any other debts.

Having to restrucrture is not always a bad thing. Hopefully, this will lead to a healthier more stable CKMedia. CKmedia is so huge that if it went under it would send ripples throughout the scrapbooking community. There are a lot of good people working for CKmedia and I hope we will be praying of all of them.

Sorry, my pollyanna view.


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Posted: 2/25/2009 7:44:05 AM
When last Fall there started to be threads in the Pub about CK being behind on their payments, I knew something was amiss. It reminded me of the PaperKuts situation from 4 years ago. With the HOF fiasco in '07 and recently the P365 fiasco, they had a deep hole to work out of. Also, their magazine has become really thin in the last year. While I wish no one to go out of business, that is a lot of debt that they have on their hands. I've also noticed on their website that a lot of their books/products are on sale.



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Posted: 2/25/2009 10:31:51 AM
If you are a creditor of CK and are or have been contacted by CRG, I'd be very interested to hear from you as I work more on this story, no names will be used. scrapbookupdate@gmail.com - Thanks.

To clarify where the calculation came from in the article about the advertising revenue, CK was offering a variety of rates at CHA last month. $150 was the *minimum* you could pay just to get a listing in the store directory for one month in just Creating Keepsakes Magazine. If you wanted the other magazines as well, or to be included in the directory on their website, they offered packages that cost more that included all of that.

I used the $150 number in the article's calculation because it was the only one that pertained just to Creating Keepsakes advertising, which was what I had counted up and was calculating from. There is no way to figure the actual financial loss to CK Media without knowing exactly what packages the missing advertisers had purchased from CK - the article is only making an estimate of a minimum of the advertising revenue that they have lost.


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mom23sweetpeas
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Posted: 2/25/2009 8:25:19 PM
I wish I had seen this yesterday before I signed up for CKC Buffalo and gave them $150- what are the chances they are going to last until June??


I've been so busy lately that I have neglected the boards.
I thought something was fishy when they offered us a VIP pass to sign up a day early.

I hope that this company helps them and can turn it around- I've been wondering how long it would last until the economy hit the crafts arena- would be the first to go if I lost my job.

Nicole in TX
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Posted: 2/26/2009 10:45:25 AM
btt



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Posted: 2/26/2009 3:46:32 PM
One article I read said their events division was doing fine.

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Posted: 2/26/2009 3:50:12 PM
i can no longer access their website - is it just me?






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Posted: 2/26/2009 4:06:01 PM
Wow. I was going to renew my CK sub last week with a credit card. Something told me to check the box marked 'bill me.' I'm glad I did.
This is a very sad situation. CK is the first scrap magazine I ever subscribed to. I hope people receive compensation for their projects.


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Posted: 2/27/2009 11:48:22 AM
Here are some interesting links that should be read....

link 1

Nancy's update

Please read the last comment left in this post. I know many who have bought camera straps from her and it makes me sick that she hasn't been paid.



purpledaisy
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Posted: 2/27/2009 12:24:42 PM
Wow, that's really sad about the lady with the camera straps!


Becca

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Posted: 2/28/2009 10:29:19 PM
We just got letters today saying we can accept a Settlement Offer for 40% of what they owe us. I am SO glad I quit submitting last summer and only have one project outstanding to be paid for. Wow.

Nicole in TX
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Posted: 3/2/2009 11:19:09 PM
btt



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Posted: 3/3/2009 11:36:15 AM
I can't believe they would collect fees for Conventions and then not pay the teachers. That is inexcusable.

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Posted: 3/3/2009 3:15:42 PM
I wonder if CK thinks that this partnership will bail them out.



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Posted: 3/3/2009 3:52:20 PM
I placed an order for the mag about 6 weeks ago, but I checked the 'bill me' mark.
Fast forward to last week. Got my bill referencing the mags, and even received an email saying I should have received two issues, but they haven't materialized.
I'm thinking I'll just cancel the ghost subscription until all the dust settles.
Hoping the people who should get paid, get paid!


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Nicole in TX
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:44:51 PM
btt



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Posted: 3/4/2009 9:32:28 PM
I wonder what Lisa Bearnson's role has been as "founding editor".... I never cared for her and really didn't care for her when I met her at one of the first CKU's (at San Antonio)... she always looked so smug! ugh! and now I see this. I got rid of my CK subscription, like 4 years ago. I didn't like the direction it was going and then all the drama and circus over HOF etc. smelled fishy....




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Posted: 3/4/2009 10:09:32 PM
I looked at Lisa's blog. She has not mentioned anything at all on there. I was sort of surprised by that.
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