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Nicole in TX
The Peas did what we do and went insane over it
PeaNut 16,696
June 2001
Posts: 18,282
Layouts: 65
Loc: Not so obvious
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If you submit to these guys, you may want to check out
This thread
and
This thread
Somebody is not being honest with their contributors and conducting business as usual. |
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charisse.
PeaNut
PeaNut 392,006
September 2008
Posts: 211
Layouts: 21
Loc: Toronto, ON
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Interesting, totally didn't know this was going on!
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patchmom4
BucketHead
PeaNut 297,771
February 2007
Posts: 840
Layouts: 8
Loc: With my own Mr. Darcy...
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That is really sad. But I guess it shouldn't be a shock with the current economy. And I haven't been very happy with these publications lately. |
Pam
You will eventually lose someone you love - and love someone you never thought you'd find. People are going to hate you, love you, love to hate you, and hate to love you, but the ones who mean the most will always be there...Sex & the City.
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purpledaisy
Calm
PeaNut 116,261
November 2003
Posts: 25,216
Layouts: 102
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That's really a shame. I know CK hasn't been that great lately, but it seems like they are turning around the last couple months. |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
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dottbugs
PeaAddict
PeaNut 186,649
January 2005
Posts: 1,333
Layouts: 165
Loc: maryland
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It is sad. Scrapbook Update just posted an article about this tonight. You can read it here: CK Media article |
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Nicole in TX
The Peas did what we do and went insane over it
PeaNut 16,696
June 2001
Posts: 18,282
Layouts: 65
Loc: Not so obvious
| Posted: 2/24/2009 9:47:48 PM
I just emailed and this is the response I got:
"I have three invoices in the system totaling $495. You will be getting a letter this week explaining your options. "
Um, my option is to have you pay me.... |
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johnmac44
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
PeaNut 216,827
July 2005
Posts: 5,948
Layouts: 94
Loc: Crazyville
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I just asked my friend (a store owner) and she pays a lot more than $150 a month to advertise her store. There was never a deal for $150 offered to her and she's been a customer listed in their magazines for at least 5 years now. She said it keeps going up even though there are fewer magazines where her name is published.
I read on another board that some scrapper is owed over $1000. You know, once it got to be so much, I'd stop contributing. I don't work for free and if the agreement is these people get paid cold hard cash for their pages (good or not) then they should get the money.
The article mentions the creditors taking cents on the dollar to erase the debt - whats being offered the scrappers that are owed money? Will that be outlined in the 'details'?
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Flip_pea_ng
PeaAddict
PeaNut 243,448
January 2006
Posts: 1,545
Layouts: 44
Loc: in limbo
| Posted: 2/25/2009 2:04:15 AM
Nice.
I've been boycotting CK since the HOF drama, decided to sub again with their 2 for 1 deal and then this.......
Ugh. Should have stuck to my guns. I guess there goes my 25bucks. They sure cashed that baby fast. Still no issue though. We'll see.
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DeborahL591
AncestralPea
PeaNut 231,852
November 2005
Posts: 4,608
Layouts: 126
Loc: South Carolina
| Posted: 2/25/2009 5:40:50 AM
Okay, I agree...but I'm a pollyanna...
At least they are taking reponsiblity and trying to get the people that owe them money to pay so that they can pay their own bills. They should pay everyone for submission and well as any other debts.
Having to restrucrture is not always a bad thing. Hopefully, this will lead to a healthier more stable CKMedia. CKmedia is so huge that if it went under it would send ripples throughout the scrapbooking community. There are a lot of good people working for CKmedia and I hope we will be praying of all of them.
Sorry, my pollyanna view. |
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#1 Buckeye Fan
Hang On SlooPEA, SlooPEA Hang On, O-H-I-O!
PeaNut 130,438
February 2004
Posts: 12,993
Layouts: 114
Loc: Buckeye Nation!
| Posted: 2/25/2009 7:44:05 AM
When last Fall there started to be threads in the Pub about CK being behind on their payments, I knew something was amiss. It reminded me of the PaperKuts situation from 4 years ago. With the HOF fiasco in '07 and recently the P365 fiasco, they had a deep hole to work out of. Also, their magazine has become really thin in the last year. While I wish no one to go out of business, that is a lot of debt that they have on their hands. I've also noticed on their website that a lot of their books/products are on sale. |
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ScrapNancy
Busy Blogger
PeaNut 92,101
June 2003
Posts: 22,205
Layouts: 135
Loc: Northeast Florida
| Posted: 2/25/2009 10:31:51 AM
If you are a creditor of CK and are or have been contacted by CRG, I'd be very interested to hear from you as I work more on this story, no names will be used. scrapbookupdate@gmail.com - Thanks.
To clarify where the calculation came from in the article about the advertising revenue, CK was offering a variety of rates at CHA last month. $150 was the *minimum* you could pay just to get a listing in the store directory for one month in just Creating Keepsakes Magazine. If you wanted the other magazines as well, or to be included in the directory on their website, they offered packages that cost more that included all of that.
I used the $150 number in the article's calculation because it was the only one that pertained just to Creating Keepsakes advertising, which was what I had counted up and was calculating from. There is no way to figure the actual financial loss to CK Media without knowing exactly what packages the missing advertisers had purchased from CK - the article is only making an estimate of a minimum of the advertising revenue that they have lost. |
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mom23sweetpeas
BucketHead
PeaNut 112,555
October 2003
Posts: 732
Layouts: 6
Loc: Canada
| Posted: 2/25/2009 8:25:19 PM
I wish I had seen this yesterday before I signed up for CKC Buffalo and gave them $150- what are the chances they are going to last until June??
I've been so busy lately that I have neglected the boards.
I thought something was fishy when they offered us a VIP pass to sign up a day early.
I hope that this company helps them and can turn it around- I've been wondering how long it would last until the economy hit the crafts arena- would be the first to go if I lost my job. | |
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Nicole in TX
The Peas did what we do and went insane over it
PeaNut 16,696
June 2001
Posts: 18,282
Layouts: 65
Loc: Not so obvious
| Posted: 2/26/2009 10:45:25 AM
btt |
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LindaBabe54
PeaAddict
PeaNut 120,429
December 2003
Posts: 1,012
Layouts: 2
| Posted: 2/26/2009 3:46:32 PM
One article I read said their events division was doing fine. | |
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NWShelly
PeaAddict
PeaNut 119,235
December 2003
Posts: 1,080
Layouts: 25
Loc: NorthWest
| Posted: 2/26/2009 3:50:12 PM
i can no longer access their website - is it just me? |
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NativeNewYorker
black eyed pea with soul!
PeaNut 15,878
May 2001
Posts: 25,030
Layouts: 70
Loc: LI, NY
| Posted: 2/26/2009 4:06:01 PM
Wow. I was going to renew my CK sub last week with a credit card. Something told me to check the box marked 'bill me.' I'm glad I did.
This is a very sad situation. CK is the first scrap magazine I ever subscribed to. I hope people receive compensation for their projects. |
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#1 Buckeye Fan
Hang On SlooPEA, SlooPEA Hang On, O-H-I-O!
PeaNut 130,438
February 2004
Posts: 12,993
Layouts: 114
Loc: Buckeye Nation!
| Posted: 2/27/2009 11:48:22 AM
Here are some interesting links that should be read....
link 1
Nancy's update
Please read the last comment left in this post. I know many who have bought camera straps from her and it makes me sick that she hasn't been paid. |
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purpledaisy
Calm
PeaNut 116,261
November 2003
Posts: 25,216
Layouts: 102
| Posted: 2/27/2009 12:24:42 PM
Wow, that's really sad about the lady with the camera straps! |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. | |
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trippin
BucketHead
PeaNut 402,473
December 2008
Posts: 988
Layouts: 0
| Posted: 2/28/2009 10:29:19 PM
We just got letters today saying we can accept a Settlement Offer for 40% of what they owe us. I am SO glad I quit submitting last summer and only have one project outstanding to be paid for. Wow. | |
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Nicole in TX
The Peas did what we do and went insane over it
PeaNut 16,696
June 2001
Posts: 18,282
Layouts: 65
Loc: Not so obvious
| Posted: 3/2/2009 11:19:09 PM
btt |
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Siamese Peas
PeaFixture
PeaNut 110,986
October 2003
Posts: 3,188
Layouts: 9
Loc: Scrap Room USA
| Posted: 3/3/2009 11:36:15 AM
I can't believe they would collect fees for Conventions and then not pay the teachers. That is inexcusable. | |
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#1 Buckeye Fan
Hang On SlooPEA, SlooPEA Hang On, O-H-I-O!
PeaNut 130,438
February 2004
Posts: 12,993
Layouts: 114
Loc: Buckeye Nation!
| Posted: 3/3/2009 3:15:42 PM
I wonder if CK thinks that this partnership will bail them out.  |
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gothamgal
StuckOnPeas
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June 2007
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Layouts: 34
Loc: Huntington Beach CA
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Nicole in TX
The Peas did what we do and went insane over it
PeaNut 16,696
June 2001
Posts: 18,282
Layouts: 65
Loc: Not so obvious
| Posted: 3/4/2009 8:44:51 PM
btt |
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aracely
TKD, Black Belt Pea
PeaNut 15,413
May 2001
Posts: 6,414
Layouts: 152
Loc: Westside of Houston
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Renee1610
PeaNut
PeaNut 199,430
April 2005
Posts: 77
Layouts: 0
| Posted: 3/4/2009 10:09:32 PM
I looked at Lisa's blog. She has not mentioned anything at all on there. I was sort of surprised by that. | |
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