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PeaLegs
PeaAddict
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HappyHappyJoyJoy
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 166,119
September 2004
Posts: 2,935
Layouts: 12
Loc: TX
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If Nancy says so, it's right!
I feel so sad about this...I'm worried our hobby is going the way of the dodo bird... |
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SDeven
Love Letters Pea
PeaNut 65,852
January 2003
Posts: 28,316
Layouts: 380
Loc: Nashville, TN!
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Sad. |
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Jenny Lilac
For Esme with Love and Squalor
PeaNut 45,964
August 2002
Posts: 11,639
Layouts: 276
Loc: Pioneer Valley, Massachusetts
| Posted: 5/7/2009 8:24:59 PM
This is sad news - I loved that mag! |
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K-B8123
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
PeaNut 395,153
October 2008
Posts: 9,952
Layouts: 139
Loc: Here
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I feel so sad about this...I'm worried our hobby is going the way of the dodo bird...
I don't think so! Well, I mean, it may not be as popular as it once was (although I joined in after the supposed "peak" its a magazine and newspaper industry-wide issue. | |
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Pois de Madame
PeaNut
PeaNut 373,411
April 2008
Posts: 99
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Loc: My scrapbook table in SE TX
| Posted: 5/7/2009 8:37:31 PM
Let's see, it took 6 mths to get a refund for SB Answers (2 yr renewal just paid when they announced their closure) and lots & lots of calls. Then Simple SB who blew up my mailbox to get me to renew & was just about to when low & behold they announced their closure. Now, I guess my sub to Memory Magazine (about a yr & a half) has just bitten the dust. Not going through that hassle again to get a few bucks back. Leaves SB Etc only now...since CK lost my business ages ago! Sad, just sad | |
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anmore
AncestralPea
PeaNut 56,372
November 2002
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Loc: Buffalo, NY
| Posted: 5/7/2009 8:42:42 PM
I was asked previously not to link to Nancy's site...just a friendly FYI. |
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slapscrappy
AncestralPea
PeaNut 366,641
March 2008
Posts: 4,800
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Loc: GA girl now a MS transplant
| Posted: 5/7/2009 8:46:12 PM
dang. |
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aJerseyGirl
[insert clever title here]
PeaNut 246,022
January 2006
Posts: 6,418
Layouts: 97
Loc: New Jersey
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Makes you not want to subscribe to anything because you never know. But, by the same token, newspapers in general are not doing well and many are shutting down. There are too many other easy ways to access information. | |
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Forever-A-Hillbilly
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 282,301
October 2006
Posts: 2,972
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Actually not my favorite magazine but I have bought it from time to time. This is really sad for any of the magazines. I wonder who will be next? | |
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octlove
PeaAddict
PeaNut 381,573
June 2008
Posts: 1,802
Layouts: 79
Loc: currently lost in heaps of paper!
| Posted: 5/7/2009 9:51:04 PM
say it ain't so!!!
I was wondering if they would fall to the wayside as some of the others have...would be nice as a loyal subscriber to hear it 1st hand |
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scrappersu
PeaAddict
PeaNut 35,690
April 2002
Posts: 1,908
Layouts: 166
Loc: California
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Wow! This is sad!!!! |
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scrapnmomof2
mom of two sweetpeas
PeaNut 78,125
March 2003
Posts: 15,194
Layouts: 371
Loc: Orange County, CA
| Posted: 5/7/2009 10:59:51 PM
Very sad, but I have to say I'm not surprised. The content has not been what it used to be. I also noticed a couple of months ago that there was a staple in the spine now which really shows how much thinner the magazine has become.
I don't think this is a sign that scrapbooking is on the way out, print media is hurting right now in general. LOTS of magazines are shutting down. It's very sad. With the economy right now many people aren't buying magazines and newspapers anymore. When money is tight many have turned to getting their information online instead of paying for it in print.
Between SS and MM going out and Somerset Memories going to twice yearly, I am kind of worried for the other scrapbook magazines. Hopefully we won't lose any others. |
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mi_scrapper
Live from Hockeytown!
PeaNut 11,081
February 2001
Posts: 5,142
Layouts: 30
Loc: Michigan
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I was asked previously not to link to Nancy's site...just a friendly FYI.
Was that a while ago? 'Cuz there's a 2Ps ad right at the bottom of that blog entry.  |
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artistic scrapper
PeaFixture
PeaNut 104,247
August 2003
Posts: 3,140
Layouts: 0
Loc: The OC
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I really think this goes back several years. At that time CK was the industry leader, and MM decided to differentiate themselves by totally changed their format. A lot of people didn't like the 'new' mag, myself included, and they let their subscriptions lapse. I don't think they ever really recovered from that.
That being said, it's still sad to see another SB magazine go under. Not much left out there. |
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Lynnscraps
PeaNut
PeaNut 19,437
August 2001
Posts: 270
Layouts: 0
Loc: Ohio
| Posted: 5/8/2009 12:30:59 AM
I'm not really surprised, it hasn't been the same since the Gerbrandts sold it to the big publisher. I think it's more about content (or lack thereof) than the economy. | |
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azsunny_scrapper
PeaNut
PeaNut 348,678
November 2007
Posts: 180
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Loc: PHX, AZ
| Posted: 5/8/2009 1:22:13 AM
That's awful! I hesitate to sub to anymore mags...I had been subscribing for years with ME Home Companion, then it was all of a sudden GONE after 10 years! | |
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melt003
PeaAddict
PeaNut 340,988
October 2007
Posts: 1,223
Layouts: 50
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
| Posted: 5/8/2009 1:27:39 AM
I've had a subscription with them for the past 2 years, but didn't feel like it had as much info/content compared to the others. I didn't read them before their big change, but I heard and read that not too many people liked the new format. Anyway, I had renewed my subscription to Simple Scrapbooks and Digital Scrapbooking...only to find out that they were no longer going to print them. Sucks because I really liked them. I don't know when mine expires, hopefully they refund $ back to those who recently renewed...if they do go through with this. | |
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Fleur-de-Lisa
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 37,775
May 2002
Posts: 2,677
Layouts: 113
Loc: So Cal
| Posted: 5/8/2009 1:29:59 AM
After the May/June issue I was ready to call for a refund on my subscription because I couldn't believe how BAD it was. So I'm not disappointed THIS Memory Makers is going away, but I'm disappointed that the old one I used to like is already gone. Well, now I wonder what happens to the money I spent on the subscription through Mar/Apr 2010? | |
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czy4croppin
PeaNut
PeaNut 22,241
September 2001
Posts: 415
Layouts: 5
Loc: Northeast
| Posted: 5/8/2009 7:58:17 AM
I always liked Memory Makers but I will say that I get more inspiration from here and another board I frequent than I have gotten from any magazine in last few years.
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Brenda in TX
AncestralPea
PeaNut 286,123
December 2006
Posts: 4,207
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Loc: Deep in the heart of Texas
| Posted: 5/8/2009 9:44:25 AM
I also wonder how these scrapbooking message boards with galleries where people can upload their projects have affected magazine sales. I know for me personally, I can find just as much inspiration here than most of the scrapbooking magazines. I do still love SB, Etc. and hope they manage to hang on. Maybe since they only print every other month, that helps?
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caspad
peas&crackers
PeaNut 3,602
April 2000
Posts: 13,721
Layouts: 374
Loc: Massachusetts
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I'm worried our hobby is going the way of the dodo bird...
it's not the hobby
it's the print media that is sinking fast
one of the first things companies cut back on is marketing/advertising
magazines and newspapers depend on that revenue from advertisers to support the content and you can see how quickly such a decrease in revenue can be the end of a magazine
subscriptions aren't what keeps a magazine afloat which is why they can offer such low prices to subscribers vs. newsstand
there are lots of non-scrapbooking magazines that ceased publishing in the last 6 months - Domino and Cottage Living were two of my favorites!!
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Shermin
PeaAddict
PeaNut 350,828
December 2007
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| Posted: 5/8/2009 10:14:05 AM
Somehow, this doesn't comes as a surprise anymore. I wonder how long it will take for SBE and CK to go down. |
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Scrapazzam
PeaNut
PeaNut 337,400
September 2007
Posts: 446
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Loc: UK
| Posted: 5/8/2009 10:42:52 AM
I feel so sad about this...I'm worried our hobby is going the way of the dodo bird...
One of the reasons that MM gave for their decision to quit was 'lack of new consumers coming to the hobby' -- so, if true, that means trouble ahead for manufacturers and retailers as well as for magazines (who need advertising to stay afloat) and web forums such as Two Peas. I wonder why not enough people are getting into scrapbooking -- is there something inherently wrong with the hobby or the hobbyists? Just curious... |
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~*kristina*~
Typical Liberal Pea
PeaNut 55,230
November 2002
Posts: 17,552
Layouts: 106
Loc: Hawkeye Nation
| Posted: 5/8/2009 11:08:55 AM
I wonder what's going to happen to all of the scrapbookers who crave being published? Another magazine bites the dust. I mean, you read some of the pub boards on the internet and I sometimes wonder if that's the only reason they scrapbook....waiting for that next published layout.
My gals that I scrapbook with locally and I predicted this would happen. We all quit buying them a couple of years ago because in our opinion, the magazines were too expensive, they used the same people, the layouts too predictable and they started to seem too contrived. We would literally make a game out of spotting which layouts *looked* like they were done for the sole reason on being published and then there would be the occasional really good layout that seemed "real".
I think the whole published 15 minutes of fame is over.
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Megan**
BucketHead
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August 2004
Posts: 559
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| Posted: 5/8/2009 11:23:30 AM
I just canceled my sub (about 2 minutes ago) since they haven't made a public announcement and my sub goes until May of 2011, I really wanted to try and get back my money before there is nothing left.
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Marylandscrapper
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 96,729
July 2003
Posts: 2,260
Layouts: 0
Loc: Maryland
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Kristina posted:
My gals that I scrapbook with locally and I predicted this would happen. We all quit buying them a couple of years ago because in our opinion, the magazines were too expensive, they used the same people, the layouts too predictable and they started to seem too contrived. We would literally make a game out of spotting which layouts *looked* like they were done for the sole reason on being published and then there would be the occasional really good layout that seemed "real".
This has been one of my biggest frustrations with the scrap magazines in the past few years.
I'm sorry to see Memory Makers go the way of the dinosaur, but the magazine was never the same after the Gerbrandts sold it. The larger company didn't seem to know their market.
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cobalthorse
PeaFixture
PeaNut 40,368
June 2002
Posts: 3,494
Layouts: 126
Loc: The land of missing socks
| Posted: 5/8/2009 12:13:14 PM
One of the reasons that MM gave for their decision to quit was 'lack of new consumers coming to the hobby' -- so, if true, that means trouble ahead for manufacturers and retailers as well as for magazines (who need advertising to stay afloat) and web forums such as Two Peas. I wonder why not enough people are getting into scrapbooking -- is there something inherently wrong with the hobby or the hobbyists? Just curious...
My gals that I scrapbook with locally and I predicted this would happen. We all quit buying them a couple of years ago because in our opinion, the magazines were too expensive, they used the same people, the layouts too predictable and they started to seem too contrived. We would literally make a game out of spotting which layouts *looked* like they were done for the sole reason on being published and then there would be the occasional really good layout that seemed "real".
I think the whole published 15 minutes of fame is over.
I think it's possible that scrapbooking as a hobby has reached its peak and is probably "leveling off". It could also be that the state of the economy is affecting those who might otherwise join the hobby.
Personally, I've subscribed to various pubs over the years and let my subscriptions lapse because I felt most of the mags all started looking the same. That may have had something to do with the "being pubbed" craze, I don't know. I've never felt inclined to submit for publication and I never stayed abreast of the "who is who" in scrapbooking.
My scrapbooking hobby has grown into other related hobbies (i.e., stamping, card making), so now the only magazine that I subscribe to is Scrapbooks Etc. I love the variety, their organizational/great find columns, ideas, and layout patterns. To me, SBE meets all my scrapping needs (outside of 2Peas - LOL).
Now if SBE would shut down, then I would definitely be upset. |
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Sandyscraps
PeaNut
PeaNut 242,948
January 2006
Posts: 292
Layouts: 0
Loc: Canada
| Posted: 5/8/2009 12:18:59 PM
The magazines are one of the main reasons new scrapbookers are not coming into this hobby like they need to. So many layouts in the magazines are so labour and cost intensive that people stayed away. People often say I don't have the time or the money to do all that work.
The layouts featured were about the art not about the meaning behind the scrapbook pages.
I often wondered why the magazines didn't have alot of features about family history and genealogy. Instead it was scrapbooker of the year and celebrities. Why do you scrapbook? Many to preserve family memories not to focus on art.
Without new scrapbookers the industry is in trouble. How many of you have enough stash to scrapbook for years? The industry can't survive unless people buy supplies and new scrapbookers are the best customers. They do not have large supplies and need tools, adhesives papers and more. Just my take. | |
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Peppermintpatty
AncestralPea
PeaNut 279,995
October 2006
Posts: 4,382
Layouts: 40
Loc: Peaing in Rockville, MD
| Posted: 5/8/2009 12:22:26 PM
I just cancelled mine even though it was only $7.76 to refund. I haven't really been into it for some time. Oh well.
Trying to get published is one of the reasons I don't like this hobby. It totally put me off and I am sick to death of seeing the same people being published and to be honest, I don't think what they do is all that great.
Now if they did a mag based on some of the layouts here, that would be great. |
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pegaroo
This too shall Pea!
PeaNut 259,418
April 2006
Posts: 8,109
Layouts: 0
Loc: AZ again!
| Posted: 5/8/2009 12:33:33 PM
Seriously - this stinks! I LOVE buying magazines of all kids, but I really love the scrap ones. I think when the economy comes back there may be some new kids on the block. I know its not as popular as a hobby as it once was, but I think there is still enough interest to generate sales of mags. |
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can_i_pea_2?
We are the Boys of Old Florida
PeaNut 190,429
February 2005
Posts: 10,650
Layouts: 5
Loc: Down Where the Old Gator Plays!
| Posted: 5/8/2009 12:58:54 PM
Now if SBE would shut down, then I would definitely be upset.
I agree with you there!!! They are the last of the big ones. But, the fact they are put out by BH&G and their parent publisher, Meredith, means they have a some deeper pockets than the others, so hopefully they will stick around.
Which makes me wonder about Scrapbook Trends and their line. They are more like books than magazines, at the size and price. And with the current economy what it is, is it realistic to think that they can continue in that same format? Which would be a shame, I do like the content, I use their ideas constantly. I just think they price alot of people out of the market. |
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Dancingfish
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
PeaNut 51,456
October 2002
Posts: 14,099
Layouts: 83
Loc: VA
| Posted: 5/8/2009 1:24:46 PM
WEbsites are great but there is nothing like sitting in the sun, or a long trip and having a great scrappin magazine!!! I will miss them all.. I do hope this will make the 2 remaining magazines better... with more talent. |
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domoo
OMG....Did I really say that out loud?
PeaNut 262,693
May 2006
Posts: 5,775
Layouts: 7
Loc: Louisville, K
| Posted: 5/8/2009 1:55:36 PM
Sad. Although they haven't been what they once were for quite some time now, I really hate to see any of the scrap magazines go down. The computer will never replace the comfort of sitting on the porch or laying in bed with a good magazine. I've been a subscriber for many years. |
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dansher
BucketHead
PeaNut 48,049
September 2002
Posts: 582
Layouts: 17
Loc: NE Ohio
| Posted: 5/8/2009 2:10:34 PM
Peppermintpatty, How did you cancel your subscription? I went to their website but couldn't find anywhere to cancel. Stinks. . .I just renewed for two years because DD is being published for the first time in their July/August issue. HELP, please!
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Megan**
BucketHead
PeaNut 161,815
August 2004
Posts: 559
Layouts: 0
| Posted: 5/8/2009 2:54:07 PM
here is the customer service number
386-246-3367
they have a toll-free number in the magazine but when you call it, it tells you to call the number up above | |
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slyn11
PeaFixture
PeaNut 190,252
February 2005
Posts: 3,809
Layouts: 126
Loc: New Jersey
| Posted: 5/8/2009 3:19:44 PM
The magazines are one of the main reasons new scrapbookers are not coming into this hobby like they need to. So many layouts in the magazines are so labour and cost intensive that people stayed away. People often say I don't have the time or the money to do all that work.
The layouts featured were about the art not about the meaning behind the scrapbook pages.
I often wondered why the magazines didn't have alot of features about family history and genealogy. Instead it was scrapbooker of the year and celebrities. Why do you scrapbook? Many to preserve family memories not to focus on art.
I think that is big leap to take. There are plenty of scrappers who are not in it to be "archivists". Some of us relish the creative outlet. We don't need new scrappers we need new PAPER CRAFTERS. It is all the same lot.
The reason why SBE mag is doing well...besides the BHG brand behind it and the ability to be placed at the checkout counter in grocery stores...is that it tries to encompass more than just scrapbooking...it includes paper crafts (cardmaking, stamping, new techniques)...it has done a better job of this than some of the other scrappy mags (the ones that are now folding.)
I am hoping that the hobby will just shift from print media to more online content. I would love to see some digital magazines with the same level of quality work as Somerset, MM, and CK.
I don't think the hobby is dying. There are newbies coming in all the time...the craft stores are getting a resurgence of sorts as people get back to basics. It may not be the craze that it was a few years back, when every store tried to have a paper aisle, but it is definitely still a big part of the crafts industry. | |
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Marylandscrapper
StuckOnPeas
PeaNut 96,729
July 2003
Posts: 2,260
Layouts: 0
Loc: Maryland
| Posted: 5/8/2009 3:41:51 PM
The magazines are one of the main reasons new scrapbookers are not coming into this hobby like they need to. So many layouts in the magazines are so labour and cost intensive that people stayed away. People often say I don't have the time or the money to do all that work.
The layouts featured were about the art not about the meaning behind the scrapbook pages.
I think there's some truth to this. For whatever reasons, at some point being "just" a scrapper seemed to be a derogatory term, as opposed to the scrappers who considered themselves to be more on the designer/artistic end of the hobby. The magazines certainly endorsed this mindset, as they began publishing and emphasizing product heavy layouts, and more time-consuming techniques.
Personally the final straw for me was the January 09 issue of MM, which featured some twee whimsical collague art. If I wanted to spend my craft $$ on that kind of work I'd either buy Papercrafts or Somerset. | |
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NativeNewYorker
black eyed pea with soul!
PeaNut 15,878
May 2001
Posts: 25,034
Layouts: 70
Loc: LI, NY
| Posted: 5/8/2009 4:12:49 PM
I saw this awhile ago. I don't know why but I'm stunned. I LOVE MM magazine and was actually planning to enter MMM this year. |
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Helen *Mc
Gone Walkabout
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April 2000
Posts: 9,519
Layouts: 214
Loc: Aussie in SC. USA
| Posted: 5/8/2009 4:59:09 PM
oh no! not MM! sad.
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The Scrap Marchine
PeaWee
PeaNut 408,926
January 2009
Posts: 9
Layouts: 14
| Posted: 5/12/2009 8:21:23 PM
I honestly couldn't care less. I once flipped through Memory Makers and actually ROFLed at how completely horrible the layouts were. To me, the only true scrapbooking magazine was Simple Scrapbooks... and, yes, I do secretly wish that once CK media gets its rock back on it can continue to publish. It is the ONLY magazine that ever understood what we scrapbookers go through. And they layouts were friggin awesome. Cathy Zielske, Donna Downey, anyone? Masters of the art. Seriously, THAT was sad, and I am still not completely over it, for SS was my scrap rock.
However, now I am suscribed to Creating Keepsakes. SO MUCH BETTER THAN MEMORY MAKERS. Still don't beat SS, but hey, it does have some good ideas. The layouts however... now I have to come here to get inspired. Sigh. The electronic revolution! | |
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nlsnow
PeaNut
PeaNut 71,556
February 2003
Posts: 18
Layouts: 0
Loc: Draper, Utah
| Posted: 5/17/2009 11:39:21 AM
Memory Makers says they'll offer subscribers credit for another magazine by the same publisher, or else a refund. You can see the Q&A with the publisher here. |
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