Provo Craft (maker of the Cricut) sues Make the Cut

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Posted 4/7/2010 by journey fan in General Scrappin'
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TheBiscuitScraps
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Posted: 4/13/2010 1:21:45 PM
Someone posted the Tabberone site on the "bug board" yesterday, but it was soon deleted. Many of us who own MTC have been removed from that board. I was one of the very first. The "bug board" admin did not like for us to say anything about MTC or now, SCAL. They got a bit testy.

Such a sad way to do business. Those of us who were talking about MTC were just so excited we had something that we had been asking PC to create...easily....but PC refused to help us. They just want us to go away.
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MelTallman
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Posted: 4/13/2010 3:10:30 PM
Just wanted to add another PC store, I didn't know about all the other ones. CreativeXpress was a PC store, not sure of its current status.

Ms. Liz
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Posted: 4/13/2010 9:52:58 PM

This thread was a good read. Thanks to all for the info.



TheBiscuitScraps
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Posted: 4/13/2010 10:24:19 PM
Looks like PC just came out with a "Professional License" for their cake carts. But the people who pre-ordered will have to buy an extra one because they just thought this one up. The bug board has been getting hot under the collar.

So, you pay all this extra money to buy the new Cake Expression, but you won't be able to use all the carts in your collection for your cakes if you are going to sell you cakes? I don't think this is going to fly.

laurelsstitchery
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Posted: 4/14/2010 5:16:36 PM

And finally--- no matter what your thoughts are on this subject you gotta admit provo craft is alittle slimey-- they sell carts on their site to people who don't know better for $60 bucks but then own multiple companies on the internet (yes provocraft owns companies working under different names) and sell the same cart for $29.00


Seriously? If you're too lazy or stupid to search the internet to find the cheapest price, you get what you deserve. Why is it PC's fault that they want to make money? That money keeps people employed!

RnKMom
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Posted: 4/14/2010 9:55:24 PM

Basically the comments boiled down to a wink, wink you can find a way to get all the cricut images without buying the carts.

They know that many (1000's) of people know how to get images from EVERY cartridge for MTC without owning any cartridges.
This thread is the first I'm hearing about this. Perhaps because I don't have MTC and so haven't kept up with MTC threads. Dare I ask how, or is that something we don't even want to know?

RnKMom
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Posted: 4/14/2010 10:12:37 PM
And in less than 15 minutes of clicking on a trail of links, I found how to accomplish this. My jaw has just hit the ground!


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Posted: 4/15/2010 12:23:17 AM
From what I understand from reading the Make the Cut's message boards, you need to own Design Studio and MTC software to be able to copy Cricut images.

TheOtherMeg
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Posted: 4/15/2010 12:38:13 AM
You need to own a Cricut machine, the cartridge, MTC, and either the full (paid) version of PC's Design Studio -OR- the trial version of DS and a Cricut Jukebox. The Jukebox short-cut is due to a well-known blip in the JB.

And, of course, the back-up copies you make are for personal use only. MTC has not advised/condoned/promoted the sharing of the back-up copies. I've been a MB member there since the start and I have not read any posts from the Admin/Owner telling people to share the PC cart files.

TheBiscuitScraps
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Posted: 4/15/2010 9:05:36 AM

You need to own a Cricut machine, the cartridge, MTC, and either the full (paid) version of PC's Design Studio -OR- the trial version of DS and a Cricut Jukebox. The Jukebox short-cut is due to a well-known blip in the JB.

And, of course, the back-up copies you make are for personal use only. MTC has not advised/condoned/promoted the sharing of the back-up copies. I've been a MB member there since the start and I have not read any posts from the Admin/Owner telling people to share the PC cart files.


DITTO, DITTO, DITTO

I've owned MTC and have been a message board member since the software was introduced in Dec. The owner/administrator has NEVER condoned copy of copyrighted material. He has advised against it.

There are a lot of ways to circumvent what is right in many areas of life, but those people who are ethical, don't do it.

If I own a cartridge by PC, those patterns/templates are MINE to do with as I choose, short of giving them to others outside a finished project, or selling the pattern/template to others.

CMCLisa
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Posted: 4/15/2010 10:04:46 AM
I agree 100%, Carol! There are lots of programs atound that allow for tracing/importing of images - it is up to the user if they decide to use that feature to work with a copyrighted image.

The more I learn about PC and their lawsuit against MTC, their "Angel Policy", the problems with Linda the Cake Lady, and the deletion of informative posts on the Cricut MB - (many of which were PC Customers just asking for a clear statement of PC's policies) the less I like them.

justme122
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Posted: 4/22/2010 2:35:54 AM
Maybe I am wrong but from my understanding you can only back up carts you own. So what's wrong with that? They are greedy and there is NO way they can keep you from selling things YOU make. That would be like a wedding dress maker not being allowed to sell a dress because the maker of the fabric doesn't allow it! Give me a break Cricut. Keep it up and when some people are choosing between cricut and pazzles they will go to pazzles. They just want people to buy their OVER-PRICED carts. Well I am going to run and buy make the cut in case they get a cease and desist letter. I want to have it to be able to back up and use the expression I bought to the fullest.
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