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Posted 3/14/2012 by AngieandSnoopy in General Scrappin'
 

AngieandSnoopy
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:42:03 AM
Another Update!
Someone else just asked a similar question today so I decided to bump this since trial and error has taught me more techniques.

I'm etching glass coffee cups, mugs and such so I needed something that would stand up to washing.

Remember to wipe off with alcohol before you apply stencil, follow directions with etching cream, I leave on about 5 to 7 minutes. I apply the etching cream with a Q-Tip AND remove it with a Q-Tip.

Someone somewhere, probably a pea said that you can put what you scrap off back in the jar. I keep the smaller first jar of etching cream and just add from the big jar to the small. Now that I'm doing so much etching, I'm glad to do this because it lasts so much longer and seems to etch just fine. PLUS, it is thicker and doesn't run down the glass past the vinyl.

After trial and error, I LEAVE the stencil on AFTER spraying the etching cream off very well. Pat it dry and just leave alone until you are sure it is completely dry. Double check to see if the stencil is still in place well. Just makes it easier to work with if you leave the stencil on.

IF you want it to have some color but not REAL dark, it works best to thin the FolkArt Enamels with the Flow Medium made for them. I was having problems IF the enamel was a little thick. I do NOT thin it down was much as they said, but enough that it works well for me.

Practice on some glass bottles or something first to get the feel for what you want AND see how the design goes before you do it on something you really care about. Anyway, I've found it works best to do a little painting, wipe off with a paper napkin or paper towel as I go. Don't let it dry too much before you wipe off. I'm using either a Q-Tip or tiny stiff paint brush to rub it into the etched design/letter.

I got more enamel AND two bottles of the Flow Medium at HL a few weeks ago. I'm just using Wicker White because I just want the etching on the glass to stand out a little better.

Update!
Your replies got me to thinking and last night when I was driving home from work, I remembered that I have the FolkArt Enamels for glass and ceramics.

After I got home, I got one of the mugs I had etched, cleaned it off with alcohol and put the white enamel over the letters with a q-tip, wiped it off with a paper towel and let it dry overnight. This morning, it looks great! I can either let it air dry for 3 weeks or put in the oven per the directions and it will be permanent.

So, now I don't have to order alcohol ink or find out if they are permanent, this will work!

Thanks for all the replies!

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Yes, I'm asking on the scrapbooking board because I know a lot of people are using their die cutting machines to cut out stencils for glass etching!

My etching turns out great but wondered if there was anything to be done that would make the etching, I guess the word would be "pop" out more?


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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:34:22 AM
I haven't tried this, but I can't help thinking maybe it could be stained with alcohol inks?


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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:47:38 AM
You can dab a little alcohol ink on and then wipe off - the ink will remain in the etched area and add a bit of color. You can also use metallic pastes like Rub-n-Buff to add color - just rub a dab on to the etched area then wipe off.

I have also used stained glass paint and a fine artist's brush to color the design. This also works great to apply color from the back of the design on flat objects like plates.

I also leave the etching cream on longer than the instructions recommend - usually at least 10 minutes.

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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:26:58 PM
I felt the same after my first etching project. Love it though. Maybe do a frosted frame around the design. The above poster has some great ideas I might try.



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Posted: 3/14/2012 4:11:13 PM
I knew the peas would have some ideas! Darn it, I just was in El Paso a week and a half ago on our yearly trip. I got more etching cream but no alcohol ink. It will probably be a long time before I even get to Roswell...

I think I have some RubnBuff somewhere, if it isn't too dried up, I'll try that.

If you have some more ideas, keep them coming!

One other thing, since this is on the outside of coffee cups, mugs or toasting flutes, would the alcohol inks come off in the dishwater or dishwasher?


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Posted: 3/15/2012 2:32:09 PM
Update!
Your replies got me to thinking and last night when I was driving home from work, I remembered that I have the FolkArt Enamels for glass and ceramics.

After I got home, I got one of the mugs I had etched, cleaned it off with alcohol and put the white enamel over the letters with a q-tip, wiped it off with a paper towel and let it dry overnight. This morning, it looks great! I can either let it air dry for 3 weeks or put in the oven per the directions and it will be permanent.

So, now I don't have to order alcohol ink or find out if they are permanent, this will work!

Thanks for all the replies!


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Posted: 3/16/2012 2:23:03 PM
btt for other people who might need to know!


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Posted: 3/17/2012 11:11:31 AM
Thanks for the update - will definitely have to give that a try!

If you like glass etching, you might also want to try etching on slate (real slate, not just chalkboard paint finish). You can find slates in many craft stores - also garden stores often carry slate plant tags. Etched slates make a cute gift for a classroom teacher.

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Posted: 4/27/2012 9:47:05 PM
I need to check out slate!

btt for 2nd update

Second Update
Someone else just asked a similar question today so I decided to bump this since trial and error has taught me more techniques.

I'm etching glass coffee cups, mugs and such so I needed something that would stand up to washing.

Remember to wipe off with alcohol before you apply stencil, follow directions with etching cream, I leave on about 5 to 7 minutes. I apply the etching cream with a Q-Tip AND remove it with a Q-Tip.

Someone somewhere, probably a pea said that you can put what you scrap off back in the jar. I keep the smaller first jar of etching cream and just add from the big jar to the small. Now that I'm doing so much etching, I'm glad to do this because it lasts so much longer and seems to etch just fine. PLUS, it is thicker and doesn't run down the glass past the vinyl.

After trial and error, I LEAVE the stencil on AFTER spraying the etching cream off very well. Pat it dry and just leave alone until you are sure it is completely dry. Double check to see if the stencil is still in place well. Just makes it easier to work with if you leave the stencil on.

IF you want it to have some color but not REAL dark, it works best to thin the FolkArt Enamels with the Flow Medium made for them. I was having problems IF the enamel was a little thick. I do NOT thin it down was much as they said, but enough that it works well for me.

Practice on some glass bottles or something first to get the feel for what you want AND see how the design goes before you do it on something you really care about. Anyway, I've found it works best to do a little painting, wipe off with a paper napkin or paper towel as I go. Don't let it dry too much before you wipe off. I'm using either a Q-Tip or tiny stiff paint brush to rub it into the etched design/letter.

I got more enamel AND two bottles of the Flow Medium at HL a few weeks ago. I'm just using Wicker White because I just want the etching on the glass to stand out a little better.


Angie ~ Snoopy, Amanda, Michel, Davy, Benji, & Onkita - my fur kids!
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Posted: 4/28/2012 5:32:45 PM
Another trial and error thing............. With diamond tip on a Dremel type tool, you can etch lines.... Outlines?

You can also use all these methods to make designs on the flat glass ornaments.. Better yet, buy them after Christmas... You could try the round glass ornaments too...

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Posted: 4/30/2012 10:16:29 AM
revirdsuba, good idea, hadn't thought about the glass Christmas ornaments!

As for the Dremel, it is very hard to hold one and do a neat job. I did try etching on glass with my engraving tool but it is also impossible for ME to do a neat job.


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