does anyone have experience with heart murmurs in 13 year olds?

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Posted: 8/6/2012 10:53:07 AM
I was just told this week at my ds sports physical for fall that he has a heart murmur.

I had no idea.

This was our first visit to this doctor & I was so taken aback. I thought heart murmurs were detected during infancy. The doctor said "there is no mistaking what I'm hearing."

So, ds, who is the picture of health, has 0 symptoms, hasn't been cleared for sports & has an echocardiogram on Wednesday.

I know several people with heart murmurs, and I know they're fine, so that's keeping me fairly calm.

But, I can't help wondering why I'm just now hearing about this.

Does anyone have experience with a child developing a heart murmur as an older kid?

Is it possible that our old ped. missed this for the past 12 years?


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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:11:09 AM
Mine wasn't found until I was 16 (during a sports physical). I've never had any problems with it. The dr who finally heard it had been my dr all of my life. I don't know why it wasn't heard until then.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:11:55 AM
Heart murmurs are just a sound. Nothing else. MANY are perfectly benign.

Yes, it is possible it is something your pediatrician did not pick up or just ignored because it was perfectly benign and not worth mentioning. An example of this would be an S3 murmur. Something that is commonly heard in children. My own husband still has an S3 often. He is an athlete and in terrific shape. It is a non-issue. My dd has one as well, but it is not consistent. Sometimes the pediatrician hears it and sometimes she doesn't. She is also an athlete (ballerina who dances several hours a day).

I also have a murmur due to mitral valve prolapse and regurgitation. It has zero impact on anything in my life.



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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:20:54 AM
I have one and it is so slight unless I mention it they wouldn't know. My valve has leakage and blood dribbles backwards.

I have had absolutely no issues with it except my last pregnancy and previously you used to take antibiotics before a dentist appointment but in the last few yrs they did away with that.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:26:03 AM
As a kid EVERY doctor I saw mentioned my heart murmur to my mom, but they always said it was mild and nothing to worry about; I was cleared for soccer and track every year, and the Army let me join with it. As an adult not one doctor has mentioned it, so perhaps they can be outgrown?



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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:28:51 AM
I've been told twice I have a murmur, but have been examined my many more doctors over the years who said nothing. It may keep your boy out of the sports program he would like to be in but it shouldn't otherwise affect his life.

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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:33:39 AM
Mine wasn't detected until I was in college...and not every doctor who's listened mentions it. Mine is caused by mild mitral valve prolapse. Doesn't impact my life at all.

DH has one that is significant enough that I can hear it by putting my ear to his chest. He said he's known about it since he was a kid and it didn't keep him out of the Army.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 12:22:54 PM
Thanks so much for the replies!

My head knows there is nothing wrong with ds, he's perfectly fine & healthy.

But, I did wonder about never hearing about the murmur before. 12 years of well checks, plus several visits to walk-in clinics & no one ever mentioned anything. And that made me worry that it somehow has developed in the last year & that seemed off to me.

Knowing that sometimes docs don't mention them makes sense. Our new doctor is extra cautious with athletes. A few years ago in our town, a young soccer player collapsed & died on the field during a game. His sons were friends with this boy, and I believe the doctor was even there at the game it happened & administered cpr. I could see this doctor erring on the side of caution with a murmur due to his past experience with a seemingly perfectly healthy kid.

So, we'll go get the echo & I'm sure we'll just continue on as normal when we get the results.

Thanks again for the replies, I don't think I realized how nervous I was until I started reading your replies & felt myself calming down with each one!


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Posted: 8/6/2012 1:17:48 PM

And that made me worry that it somehow has developed in the last year & that seemed off to me.


It's actually not uncommon for them to develop later in childhood. My daughter developed one around 5-6. We actually have a family history of congenital heart defects, so I know that she was evaluated very thoroughly at birth and during her early years.

This showed up later and was a total non-issue medically.

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Posted: 8/6/2012 1:27:08 PM
You are right. A murmur is just a sound and your son is most likely perfectly healthy . This will most likely have no significance. But like the previous pea, heart defects can be diagnosed at any age,and better safe than sorry. Most likely nothing... most are innocent... but it's better to know than not know.

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Posted: 8/6/2012 1:43:00 PM
I had/have an S3 murmur also, and had it when I was in gradeschool. As an older adult (I'm 51), I did finally go to a cardiologist just to get it all checked, and all was fine. I don't usually tell new doctors that I have it until they could hear it on their own (then I know they're good).









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Posted: 8/6/2012 2:36:26 PM
I was also diagnosed with a heart murmur when I had a sports physical in high school. I was cleared to participate in cross country and track and had no problems.

I got a job at a discount drug store one summer when I was in college and they made a big deal out of it and I got a card stating I was vocationally handicapped... I'm guessing as a diversity thing. I was pretty sure if the 8+ miles I was running each day wasn't going to do me in, neither would price marking shampoo bottles. They didn't let me park close either.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 4:02:47 PM
My DD has a heart murmur because she has a congenital heart defect. She is a great athlete! Once her dr. told her she'd be 30% faster if she didn't have the defect and we are all grateful, because she is dang fast as it is.

It is great you have a dr who wants things like that checked out. An echo is a great way to do it. My DD gets annual echos (I wrote we, originally, because I am always there and feel like it's me, too!) and they tell us she is in great shape.

The dr. can tell you right away.

Want a funny story? When DD was 7, she had strep and we came in on a Saturday. Dr. did not read her chart (bad dr!) and didn't see she had a murmur. He was a beautiful and tanned doctor. And he turned pasty white when he listened to her heart. I am not kidding. I don't think he had too many kids whose strep go to their hearts. I told him right away and he literally wiped his brow and said "Thank God! I was SICK." He wasn't our regular doc, of course. But it's good he heard it.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 8:50:03 PM
I didn't know I had a heart murmur until I was in college. The type I have is apparently not always noticeable. After my c-sections I have had doctors say it is the worst one they have heard. But then at other spots they don't mention it at all. I don't need any precautions when getting dental work or other procedures.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 8:58:25 PM
Try not to worry about it until you get test results. Chances are, its nothing.

DS has a murmur because he has a repaired heart defect. He will always have it. He has even had people (nurses) ask to listen to his heart again because they don't hear his particular type of murmur very often, apparently. Its pretty noticeable.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:13:19 PM
ds had one that was diagnosed during a sports px too. had to have an echocardiogram and the tech said that it is rare NOT to have a heart murmur. his too was no big deal and the dr that did his sports px yesterday didn't even mention it. he plays all sports too, baseball, football and golf. no problems at all.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:31:49 PM
Thanks again, everyone!

I'll update when I know results of the echo, but I'm feeling good, confident, that it's just another little quirk in my quirky kid.


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Posted: 8/6/2012 9:34:30 PM
I found out that I have one, I was 27 when the Dr told me during my pre-op for my gallbladder removal. I haven't had any problems & no else has ever mentioned it.

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Posted: 8/6/2012 10:14:44 PM
When I was about 12 they found I had a heart murmur. I had to go for testing and everything was fine. It has never caused me any trouble. Hoping the same for your DS





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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:39:02 PM
Right before DDs first appointment after she was born I laid my head on her chest and heard a strange heart beat.

The doctor heard it too. He said she had a murmur and dismissed it.

4 years later a doctor heard it again and sent us to have further testing done

Turned out she has a Patent Foramen Ovalle

She had had a lot of pain with it and needs to be premeditated before any visits to the dentist.
But there's not a lot they will do for it.

DD has a normal life and has Been involved in several sports. In fact she is a three time world champion in bodysurfing.
So her murmur, while there and quite real doesn't effect her normal life too much

Don't worry. Lots if people have murmurs. It's good to find out now do your DS can always be pre medicated before any dental visit.
This is very important.

ETA: I am 48 and was told two years ago that I too have a murmur. It us possible to miss them. But my thought was 'how could that be missed for 46 years?'


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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:05:55 AM

It's good to find out now do your DS can always be pre medicated before any dental visit.
This is very important.




They have actually changed the recommendations about who needs antibiotics prior to dental visits. You should check with your doctor.


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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:04:26 PM
One of my offspring has a systolic ejection murmur, picked up by chance on a visit to the GP when he had a chest infection as a toddler. He had some tests and we were told to forget about it. He plays football three times a week, with no ill effects, so it can't be that significant.


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Posted: 8/7/2012 5:44:20 PM
My son was also diagnosed in his teens. We made annual check ups at the local children's hospital with the head of cardiology. In his 17th year they performed some amazing tests on him... all very high tech. They pinpointed the hole and determined he was cleared for his adulthood without any reservations. His grandfather also had a heart murmur and served in WWII. It all really depends on the type.


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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:28:04 PM

It's good to find out now do your DS can always be pre medicated before any dental visit.
This is very important.


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They have actually changed the recommendations about who needs antibiotics prior to dental visits. You should check with your doctor.




51 years later and 30+ operations later, I've NEVER been advised that I had to be premedicated with antibiotics because of my murmur. I've had really, really good doctors in Manhattan doing surgeries too.









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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:45:48 PM
I have one that I was apparently born with but wasn't really 'discovered' until I was 12 when I went in for a sports physical. I have no idea how they didn't detect it before because it's loud (like grade 4) and every time I had a different dr they would make a huge deal out of how loud it was lol. Even when I was having my first daughter and a med student was there my doc made them listen to it.

It's fine though, and I have to see a cardiologist once a year but am not restricted in any way due to it. I'm sure your son's will be fine too but I also understand your worry over it

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