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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:38:09 PM
First day of school today. Everyone who usually does the drop off line parks and walks their kids to school and it is crazy. I parked in front of someone's house, in a spot that is big enough for about one and one quarter cars. I was not blocking the driveway in any way.

Ds and I get out of the car, and the woman comes running out and tells me to move my car because her cleaning lady is coming. I am a bit bewildered and told her that if I moved up, I would be halfway around the corner (not even sure that is legal). She has a two car driveway that was empty.

I pointed out that I would only be there about ten minutes and I did not move my car. Had ds and I still been in the car, I might have moved it, but we were not and it was the first day of school and I wanted to be there in enough time to find his new classroom, etc.

So was I wrong or was she?



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:40:00 PM
She was. She doesn't get to say who parks in the street.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:40:00 PM
You were in the right.

Public road. Lady does not own the road. Her driveway was empty.

I probably would have asked why she could not park in the driveway?

But, I think you were fine.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:40:47 PM
Here pulic street = public parking.

I would have ignored her and not moved my car. You can't fix crazy people who think they own the street.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:42:04 PM
She doesn't own the street.

Park anywhere on my street you want, just not in front of my mailbox- I won't get my mail if you do.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:43:23 PM
Ridiculous. You were right. She was wrong.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:43:58 PM
you were right, she is nuts. There are a number like her in the this world.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:44:21 PM
My neighbor is just like the woman you are describing. He actually painted part of his own curb RED so people won't park in front of his house. I'm still debating calling the city to report him. He's an angry old man.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:45:24 PM
I should have pointed out the driveway was empty, but I was so shocked by the exchange, that I couldn't think straight.

I live in a private house next to townhouses. They have their own parking but the spots in front of my house are almost always taken by people in the townhouses. Yeah, secretly I am slightly irritated when friends come to visit and have to park around the corner, but I keep my mouth shut and try to shut down my negative thoughts as well because it is public parking. I would NEVER have done what she did.

Truth is, her house is my favorite parking spot and has been for years because I can zip around the corner and avoid much of the madness in front of the school (I park about two blocks away so I don't have to deal with traffic jams or kids running out into traffic). I will be parking there again I am sure.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:45:46 PM
You weren't wrong but I can understand her frustration.

I have a friend who lives directly across from an elementary school. People block her driveway, pull in and park in her driveway, sit on her lawn and sit on her porch on a daily basis.

She thought that living close to a school would be great....but she hates it. We tried to warn her.

I would not have moved my car though.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:46:10 PM
Oh, and thanks. I thought I was right, but wanted to make sure.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:48:03 PM
In my town you are not allowed to park in front of homes across from the school(at least just the high school). ...you will get ticketed. There are signs as well.

I don't know what they do if you are actually visiting the family at the home, but I do see the signs and there is not one car parked in front of the homes. I never came across this as there are always parking places in the parking lot or on the street directly in front of the school.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:49:17 PM
She was definitely wrong. As long as your not blocking the mail box or her driveway you are a-okay.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:49:18 PM
You were right, and she's a parking looney.

In all the years I worked for 911, the meanest, angriest, most over-the-top-with-rage callers were those complaining about parking situations. I kid you not.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:50:12 PM
We had a neighbor who always parked in front of our house. That in and of itself wasn't the issue. It was the fact that they parked in front of our house to avoid parking in front of their own.

That kind of thing ticks me off a little. It's like, "What? You're too good to park your crappy little sedan in front of your place? You gotta make it look like it lives here?"

I don't think so. 10 minutes is one thing, habitual is another even though it is a public street.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:53:50 PM

I have a friend who lives directly across from an elementary school. People block her driveway, pull in and park in her driveway, sit on her lawn and sit on her porch on a daily basis.


This was my life for 5 years. We lived around the corner from the high school.

The kids would block our driveway and then walk through our yard.

I'm sure I was the crazy lady who yelled at kids, but I always told them to move their cars when they blocked the driveway.

But parking in front of the house? No problem. As long as they did it thoughtfully.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:58:38 PM
In some places parking in front of houses near the school IS illegal even though it isn't illegal in the rest of the city. Cars parked in the neighborhood as part of the school's daily traffic are a danger to the children who live nearby and walk to school.

It is one of those things I see as you may have a legal right to do it but you are ethically pretty crappy for doing it.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:00:48 PM
She was in the wrong! This is why you don't buy a house in front of, or near, a school!

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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:05:15 PM

We had a neighbor who always parked in front of our house. That in and of itself wasn't the issue. It was the fact that they parked in front of our house to avoid parking in front of their own.

That kind of thing ticks me off a little. It's like, "What? You're too good to park your crappy little sedan in front of your place? You gotta make it look like it lives here?"

I don't think so. 10 minutes is one thing, habitual is another even though it is a public street.


That is our situation, to a T. It's frustrating because they park THEIR extra car in front of MY house instead of THEIRs! Why? We have no idea. And it's now the 6th year of this. Not loving it.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:08:12 PM
To the people who say parking in front of a house near a school is illegal...wouldn't it be illegal for the cleaning lady too?

The crazy woman was in the wrong, either way.




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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:09:15 PM
Public road; park where you want.

A neighbor to our kid's school got tired of people parking in front of their house and put up official-looking "no parking" signs and was yelling at parents, telling them the city put them there. The city came and made them take them down. I can't imagine why someone would buy or rent a house across the street from a school that's been there since 1947 and then act surprised that people would park in front of their house.

I used to work downtown and we'd all park in the neighborhoods nearby and get yelled at, notes on our cars, etc. The weirdest was when I parked at a METER in front of someone's rented apartment and they yelled saying the city said we had to save the meter for the residents -- WTH?

I admit I do a double-take when people park in front of my house, especially the people who live across the street, and then I have to park down the block or across the street. But, again, public street. I don't control it.

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Cars parked in the neighborhood as part of the school's daily traffic are a danger to the children who live nearby and walk to school.

It is one of those things I see as you may have a legal right to do it but you are ethically pretty crappy for doing it.


In the case of our school, where it's legal, there's nowhere else to park. The lot is only for faculty and the drop-off lane has room for maybe five cars at a time. Most parents don't drop off until about fourth grade. Most come in (kind of a hoverparent school, ourselves included.)

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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:10:31 PM
To the people who say parking in front of a house near a school is illegal...wouldn't it be illegal for the cleaning lady too?
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Depends on how the city code is written. Often, no, it wouldn't be illegal for the cleaning lady. She is there at the resident's request. Not as a part of the school traffic.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:10:31 PM

That is our situation, to a T. It's frustrating because they park THEIR extra car in front of MY house instead of THEIRs! Why? We have no idea. And it's now the 6th year of this. Not loving it.
I solved our issue by giving them the following warning:

"Hey, just a head's up! We got a new weed wacker and plan to edge our lawn regularly...also you should know those suckers really kick up rocks. Just thought you'd like to know so you can move your car."

We have no sidewalks and they figured out that our weed wacker would be operating about 3" from the side of their car, so they moved it. Haven't had a problem since.



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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:16:16 PM

"Hey, just a head's up! We got a new weed wacker and plan to edge our lawn regularly...also you should know those suckers really kick up rocks. Just thought you'd like to know so you can move your car."



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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:19:14 PM
She's wrong and you are right.
Our neighborhood has some strange zoning going on. There are two older brick buildings - one catty corner to me and the other directly opposite of it. The hair place has a lot behind it so no problem. The other was a catering place run by one guy and never an issue. Heck, he used to bring us leftovers! Well, when he died and the building was sold. an apartment management and painting place took it over. Well, those paint dudes park in front of my house. Yeah, OK, but what really pisses me off is when they park right across the street from my driveway. The street isn't that big and when they are in front of my house and across, I can barely get out. THe guys don't care because their cars are pieces of shit. Sometimes the "official" paint trucks are parked along my yard. The old guy that lives next door raises holy hell if they park in front of his house.

I have had to ask them to move their cars several times when it's snowed and they are blocking my driveway. It's irritating. They stopped parking right across from my driveway when I went over and nicely told them that my kids were going to be learning how to drive and we needed a bit more room for them to maneuver since we have a mini van. The workers just stared at me, but the foreman/owner got it and it's been better.

The only other time I had issues and almost called the police was when one of the workers family pulled up to wait to pick him up. First, they pulled up on the left side (mine) facing the wrong way down the street. Then they were yelling obscenities because my dog was barking at them (they were loud and banging stuff around). When they started throwing things I went out and asked them to stop. When they continued to swear and shoot the bird (and there were small kids in the car) I told them I was calling the police and pulled my phone out. They took off like a shot. I did tell the manager guy about it and he apologized. I never saw them again.





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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:20:45 PM
I am not saying you are wrong, but I probably would have moved if she asked me to. I would not feel right parking there when I knew it upset the home owner. That's because I hate when my neighbors park in front of my house. I have asked them to please not park there and they generally comply - sometimes their guests park there though. I like the area in front of my house to be for me and my family and guests.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:24:40 PM
If it's public street parking, I would have smiled at her, assured her that I would try not to be too long and then gone merrily on my way.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 7:26:45 PM
We have 'no parking' signage on the street across from school (and on the school side). I'm pretty sure it's 'no parking school days from 9-4'. It doesn't matter who you are or why you're parked there- if it's a school day between 9-4, you'll get a ticket.

But, barring that kind of signage? She has no right to tell you not to park there. People just get crazy when it comes to parking.

I admit though, I get annoyed when my neighbors- who have no less than 5 cars, get in the habit of parking in front of my house rather than their own. Especially when they park too close to my mailbox. Grrr.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 7:36:47 PM
It drives me nuts when family members from a family down the street have all their cars lining the road on both sides sometimes for days. Makes it hard to get in and out of the neighborhood, but they do leave after awhile.

The one time we ever did anything was when the kids across the street from my dad had a huge party. We kept noticing our windows light up like someone was in front of the house. They sure where! My dad had a huge driveway that wrapped up to the very front, you could park right in front of the front door if you wanted. Sure enough, they were parking in our driveway! We went over once to ask them to move, and they blew us off, so my dad called a towing company. There were six vehicles parked in our driveway! And later there were A LOT of unhappy people that night, but we never had an issue again.

I told my dad that if they wanted to do a party again, I was more than happy to sit outside, watch their cars and charge 10 bucks a pop.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 7:44:36 PM
In out town at least, the city has an easement onto your property. They actually own part of your yard. She has no say over who parks on city property. She was wrong.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 7:44:36 PM

People block her driveway, pull in and park in her driveway, sit on her lawn and sit on her porch on a daily basis.
How rude and entitled some people are!

Does she have a fence? I'd ask them to move off my property once. The next time they were there I'd suddenly have the need to water my lawn and\or hose off my porch - and them too if they were sitting there.

If they parked in my driveway - my gate would suddenly need to be repainted - with a spray can. If the overspray hit their car, tough toenails for them.

As for the OP - that lady is wrong, she doesn't get to say who parks on a public road. Next time tell her you'll park in her empty driveway if she wants the road for her cleaner.


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Posted: 8/15/2012 7:52:09 PM

In some places parking in front of houses near the school IS illegal even though it isn't illegal in the rest of the city. Cars parked in the neighborhood as part of the school's daily traffic are a danger to the children who live nearby and walk to school.

It is one of those things I see as you may have a legal right to do it but you are ethically pretty crappy for doing it.


I didn't say it in my OP, but I did say later on, that this spot is a good two blocks from the school. I am intentionally not parking closer because I feel like it is much more dangerous for kids and anxiety provoking for me. I would rather walk a bit .

There is absolutely not signage. Cars are allowed to park right across the street from the school.

Oh, and the ironic part is that as I walked back to my car, I noticed that every single fire hydrant was blocked off by cars parked in front of them. The elementary school has over 800 kids, so there are a whole lot of cars around.



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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:07:09 AM
I am siding with the homeowner.
She told you that her cleaning lady was coming, and even though you told her you were only going to be 10 minutes she could not be sure of that.
So the cleaning lady would have to park in the driveway, probably blocking somebody who was going to leave the house and go in start cleaning ,then have to go move her car when you left.

I used to work for not-so-merry maids and clients would get down right picky about where you could park and not park and heaven forbid if they thought your car might leak oil. I had one client that made us park out on the road because they were obsessed about keeping their cement driveway free from oil stains.

yup, just the wrong day to park in front of her house.









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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:19:46 AM
We lived two blocks from a school people parked in our driveway and walked the 5 minutes to the school and then stole anything not nailed down. The neighbors hated anyone parking in front of their houses at any time and for good reason.

I now live three blocks away from two schools it's better. The madness seems to only infect the first few block's around schools.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:33:49 AM

I had one client that made us park out on the road because they were obsessed about keeping their cement driveway free from oil stains.


This made me laugh. We used to live in an area where there was actually a city ordinance about oil leaks on your driveway. And it's not easy to get out of concrete, so I can sort of understand their obsession.

We also had a neighbor who would call 911 every time someone parked in front of his house. 911 would explain it wasn't against the law. He would make veiled threats against the vehicle, they would send the cops to explain...again, that it wasn't against the law. Finally the police asked all the neighbors to PLEASE not have their guests park in front of his house, he was costing the city too much money in wasted police calls, keeping the 911 operators tied up etc. In order to keep the peace we did all oblige, but not graciously.

It was also not legal to park in front of homes around the school between certain hours, but it wasn't all day, just for an hour or so during the busy pick up and drop off times.

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Posted: 8/16/2012 4:15:58 AM
I have never understood how possessive some people get about the street parking that happens to be in front of their homes, nor why it irritates them so much if someone parks there. It's not an extension of one's property or driveway.

It would also never occur to me that someone might drive by and think that a vehicle parked in front of my house belonged to me when it didn't, and might make some kind of negative judgement about me.

Cars blocking your driveway is a totally different thing. But the street parking in front of one's home is not reserved for the homeowner, or their guests. If it is legal to park there it is entirely on a first come basis.

The homeowner was in the wrong to ask you to move, she has no 'claim' on that parking spot. If she didn't want her cleaning lady to park in her driveway, then I guess the cleaning lady would have to park elsewhere on the street, or on a nearby street and walk. Such is life.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 5:30:04 AM

I am siding with the homeowner.
She told you that her cleaning lady was coming, and even though you told her you were only going to be 10 minutes she could not be sure of that.
So the cleaning lady would have to park in the driveway, probably blocking somebody who was going to leave the house and go in start cleaning ,then have to go move her car when you left.
Which is fine except that the street in front of the homeowner's house does not belong to the homeowner. She has no say in who gets to park there be it for 10 minutes or the whole day.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 5:49:55 AM
I'm not siding with the woman, but if she was an elderly woman I would have moved. Why, you may ask? Because I love our elderly folks even the grouchy ones.

If the woman was young, it would depend on the way she asked. If she was nice, I'd move.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 5:56:21 AM
Grew up in a neighborhood with street parking.

As much as we liked to think we did, we didn't own the public street in front of our house.

OP was well within her rights to park there. If she could have moved the kind thing would have been to do so. If she couldn't, or chose not to, she had no obligation to do so.

This is really no different than if she had pulled into a parking space downtown only to have a fellow driver Appear at her window and tell her that they really needed this parking spot and she should move along.

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Posted: 8/16/2012 6:14:40 AM
She was wrong as long as it is a public street.



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Posted: 8/16/2012 6:20:35 AM
MizI and Kelpea--I think we live next to the same people. They always park in front of our house and I am not sure why--their cars would be safer in front of their own house (we are on a slight bend and they are on the straight away). The grandson that lives there is a piece of work--one night I was watching TV and saw a car pull up out front--so I watched--the kid next door came out and talked to the others in the car-money etc changed hands. When the car left I stopped the kid and told him that if I caught him doing another drug deal in front of my house I would drop a dime on him (yes he is a confirmed drug user). A couple of days ago I was out weeding and a car pulled up and stopped in front of the house--I watched for a bit, then I stood up and asked if I could help them--they got nervous and drove off.

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Posted: 8/16/2012 7:11:44 AM
She doesn't own the road so you were within your rights unless there is posted 'no parking' as I have seen in front of homes near schools here.

One question, does your school not have parking on site for parents?



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Posted: 8/16/2012 7:41:46 AM
It's a public street and she does NOT own it. She had some nerve!!! I wouldn't have explained a thing to her.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 8:43:16 AM
You were in the right, as long as there were no signs or laws that prevent parking there.

We have to partial park in front of one neighbors house. We are on a cul-de-ac with a tiny front yard. My front yard curb barely has enough room for a small sedan and my neighbor has about 6 inches of curb space (they have the biggest back yard). I also have about a half car length of curb to right of my drive way and then the other neighbors yard/curb starts. My dd parks to the right for two reasons - one is many times my other neighbor or their guests are parked in front of my house and two, same neighbor has run into my car twice pulling from her driveway. It is really tight on that side and she has a suburbon. I feel really bad to be partially in front of the right neighbors yard, but that is where we park. Note, the rest of the cul-de-sac parking is either taken by other cars or directly behind a driveway.

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Posted: 8/16/2012 9:34:10 AM
In my neighborhood, we respect each other's parking spaces. I would not park in front of my neighbor's house, nor would he park in front of mine. I also tell my guests where to park instead of taking a neighbor's space. It would not be "wrong" for me to park in front of my neighbor's house, but it sure would be discourteous to do so since there is a "policy" already set and followed by all of us, kwim?

However, if a non-neighbor parks in front of my house, it is a mild irritant and I wouldn't call them on it. For instance, the lawn guy for one of my other neighbors often takes my spot.

School drop offs are always manic, and I can totally understand the frustration of people who have to put up with it. I live in Pittsburgh, and most schools have little or no parking, and are in neighborhoods with bumper to bumper parking on each side of the street, not to mention, many of the streets are one way! If a realtor even tried to show me house on a school street, I might just have to smack her! LOL I know that my friends who live on those streets are virtually hostage in their homes in the morning and then again in the afternoon, but they also plan around it.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 1:17:47 PM
I don't think you were at all wrong and it sounds like the lady did not handle the situation well. (especially since she appeared to have space in her driveway). Just to add a bit of perspective. . . We live downtown, without a garage and across the street from a school. We do have a one car driveway, but with two cars, we, like most in our neighborhood, rely on street side parking. I don't feel I own the spaces in front of our house and obviously anyone has a right to park there. Unfortunately, during drop off and pick up times, I often cannot park within a couple of blocks of our house - frustrating because I have to take our oldest to/from school at the same times and I have three kids 4 and under to tote back to our house. I never say anything, nor do I think I have a right to, but it is a frustrating situation (no one's fault, just frustrating). I will say something to people who are blocking my driveway because it happens often and it irritates me, but I think I am always polite. And I admit I have said things when people are parked in the middle of a the space so that only one car can park there. (The space can accommodate our van and my husband's truck, so isn't small).

Anyway, maybe she just had a bad moment and you bore the brunt of building frustrations.

Again, you were totally appropriate and she was in the wrong. . . Just trying to add some perspective. (or maybe just airing my own frustrations)

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Posted: 8/16/2012 1:25:15 PM

You weren't wrong but I can understand her frustration.



Same here. We wouldn't even look at houses near schools because of the traffic and parking issues.


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Posted: 8/16/2012 1:49:56 PM
My neighbor used to park his truck in front of our house so there would be no vehicle in front of his house...

Then my DS started driving & we got him a car; the neighbor knew & still he kept parking in front of our house.

DS started parking in front of his house & the neighbor finally started parking in front of his own house.



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Posted: 8/16/2012 2:01:26 PM
She is wrong. She doesn't have the legal right to tell you to move your car. She should of got her car and saved her spot if that was such a big concern.

Although I wish parking spots in front of houses were reserved for the people who live in the house. I live near a couple of apartment buildings. Lots of the renters park on the street, hence, I have to fight for parking spots

Also in some cities, they have parking permits for residences.


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