Abortion Rates Plummet With Free Birth Control
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Posted: 10/5/2012 6:58:50 PM


From 2008 to 2010, annual abortion rates among study participants ranged from 4.4 to 7.5 per 1,000 women. This is a substantial drop (62 percent to 78 percent) over the national rate of 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women in 2008, the latest year for which figures are available.



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I was particularly amazed at this statistic. I had no idea teen pregnancy rates were so high.


Among girls ages 15-19 who had access to free birth control provided in the study, the annual birth rate was 6.3 per 1,000, far below the U.S. rate of 34.3 per 1,000 for girls the same age.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:03:05 PM

Among girls ages 15-19 who had access to free birth control provided in the study, the annual birth rate was 6.3 per 1,000, far below the U.S. rate of 34.3 per 1,000 for girls the same age.


Wow! That is a huge difference. If only so many people didn't think birth control=slut.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:07:27 PM
I will never understand why birth control isn't given out like candy to teenagers.



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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:09:41 PM
I've long wanted it added to the food in our school's cafeteria, but apparently that's unwise or something.

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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:16:47 PM
I think that makes perfect sense.

Which is why it aggravates me to no end when some of the same people who are so emphatically Pro-Life are also against birth control.

And I don't just mean those with issues against certain types of birth control, but those against any of it being used/given by/to teens or even women in general.

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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:28:58 PM

I think that makes perfect sense.

Which is why it aggravates me to no end when some of the same people who are so emphatically Pro-Life are also against birth control.

And I don't just mean those with issues against certain types of birth control, but those against any of it being used/given by/to teens or even women in general.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:33:05 PM
Wait. There will be spin about the numbers, who funded the study... It won't matter b/c some people don't want it to matter.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:37:41 PM

Which is why it aggravates me to no end when some of the same people who are so emphatically Pro-Life are also against birth control.


<----Pro-life and not against birth control. Don't know about the federal government providing it free to every woman of reproductive age in the United States, but definitely not against birth control.

Happy to see abortion rates down. Always a good thing, that.



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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:38:46 PM
I'm having trouble getting the link to work on my iPad. Was there a specific BC used? Condoms? Pills? Or are they Noting the type?

I'm curious if there was any increase in STD's?

Any decrease in abortions is a plus in my book. We should all be working toward abortion decreases.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:41:02 PM
Anna-I think the STD question is a good one. Though it would probably be static if the amount of sexual activity remained the same and the amount of pregnancies is reduced therefore abortions are reduced you'd assume it's unchanged. B/c condom use would likely have prevented the pregnancies otherwise and the abortion rate would have been unaffected (if usage was proper and breakage was negligible).



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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:42:20 PM
I believe they mainly used IUDs, as they are not a daily pill.

To me the funniest thing was that the head of the project was suprised at how effective the study was.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:42:36 PM

Wait. There will be spin about the numbers, who funded the study... It won't matter b/c some people don't want it to matter.


God, that is so true. The numbers will stare them in their faces, and they will STILL freak about it and find new ways to bash teen birth control.

I, for one, pray daily that neither of my children become pregnant or cause someone to beome pregnant these next several years.

We have an open dialog with both of them. We will do whatEVER is necessary to prevent a pregnancy with either of them. I want them to have a future without a teen pregnancy obstacle. The parents with their heads in the sand? Wake up. The numbers don't lie.



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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:42:39 PM

Which is why it aggravates me to no end when some of the same people who are so emphatically Pro-Life are also against birth control.



<----Pro-life and not against birth control. Don't know about the federal government providing it free to every woman of reproductive age in the United States, but definitely not against birth control.


And that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:45:38 PM
the implants and iuds were the overwhelming successful methods in this study..

though condoms still should be used...I am all for free birth control for teens and others..better health outcomes, better outcomes for society..and fewer abortions.

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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:52:27 PM

If only so many people didn't think birth control=slut


Amen.

Sex is a fact of life. It happens. Even to "good kids". And given the sexualization of just about everything in our culture (i.e., sex sells), is it surprising that young people "take the plunge" at an early age?

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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:58:04 PM

I've long wanted it added to the food in our school's cafeteria, but apparently that's unwise or something.


LOL! Pizza, apples, cookies and condoms!

Anna - the study found IUD and implants the most effective. I also wondered about the STD rates, there wasn't any mention in the article though.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 8:05:13 PM
Birth control is a great thing, and even as a pro-choice person, I'm very happy about the results of this study!

As to giving out free methods of birth control to teenagers like candy, I'd like to say this: I know it's a bit different once those teens go to college, but my university recently had a a thing called "Condom Casino" night, where you played casino games for free condoms. Haha! I thought that was both a good idea and also highly amusing.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 8:16:32 PM
I grew up in a very conservative home and I have had so many arguments with my brother about this very thing. What bothers me is that there are so many things that go hand in hand and IMO you HAVE to figure out what you can compromise on because nothing will be solved by denying everything. Some people in my family don't want to allow abortions, don't want to support free/easier access to birth control, don't want to support moms on assistance but that line of thought isn't realistic in the long run.



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Posted: 10/5/2012 8:17:09 PM
I really don't understand why my Ky county seems to be so unique regarding the availability of birth control......since I was a teenager (back in the 70's) we have been able to go to the local health department and get all the birth control we wanted for free or a very minimal charge (less than $5).

But I read threads on here often that seem to suggest that there are no such agencies in places that I would think would be far ahead of us?

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Posted: 10/5/2012 8:54:28 PM
The larger implications for me are that keeping girls from being mothers until they are educated and employed also means they much less likely to live in poverty with their (eventual) families.

It's a simple equation, and it works out to everyone's benefit: kids, mothers, society.


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Posted: 10/5/2012 9:13:24 PM
I have to send that link to my dd. We were having a discussion about this just today - how education and birth control should bring down the number of abortions.

I'm fervently pro-choice and am very happy that the number of abortions has decreased. I'm firmly in the belief that abortion should be legal, safe and rare.



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Posted: 10/5/2012 9:29:39 PM
It's not really "free". Since this "free" birth control / new health care thing went in to effect our family's health insurance premium has gone up $279/month or $3348/year. We are middle class and that increase really hurts our monthly budget.

Nobody in our household is even on birth control.

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Posted: 10/5/2012 9:50:54 PM

The larger implications for me are that keeping girls from being mothers until they are educated and employed also means they much less likely to live in poverty with their (eventual) families.

It's a simple equation, and it works out to everyone's benefit: kids, mothers, society.






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Posted: 10/5/2012 10:11:15 PM

Among a range of birth control methods offered in the study, most women chose long-acting methods like intrauterine devices (IUDs) or implants, which have lower failure rates than commonly used birth control pills. In the United States, IUDs and implants have high up-front costs that sometimes aren't covered by health insurance, making these methods unaffordable for many women.

this for one thing.

and the world thinks tossing some pills at the kids is easier than teaching them morals.

this pill is ok, then why isn't some other pill they want to swallow ok?





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Posted: 10/5/2012 11:07:00 PM

this pill is ok, then why isn't some other pill they want to swallow ok?


Well, obviously. This is why I teach my own children that vitamins are a slippery slope.

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Posted: 10/5/2012 11:26:23 PM
I am pro life and have no problem with birth control. I think any time there is a reduction of abortions it is great. And I like to believe that no matter what side of the issue you are on, a reduce in the number of abortions is WONDERFUL!

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Posted: 10/5/2012 11:27:41 PM

and the world thinks tossing some pills at the kids is easier than teaching them morals.
Oh, sweetie, it's ok to do both. And when the hormones drown out the morals, it's a great plan b.


Since this "free" birth control / new health care thing went in to effect our family's health insurance premium has gone up $279/month or $3348/year. We are middle class and that increase really hurts our monthly budget.
Which still will be cheaper than funding the results of unwanted pregnancies.




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Posted: 10/5/2012 11:55:48 PM

I am pro life and have no problem with birth control. I think any time there is a reduction of abortions it is great. And I like to believe that no matter what side of the issue you are on, a reduce in the number of abortions is WONDERFUL!

ITA.

That's fantastic! Shouldn't pro-lifers be cheering right now?

YAY!!!! HALLELUJAH!!! AWESOME!!! WONDERFUL!!!

And if it does in fact cost me more as a taxpayer or on my health insurance, this is one item I will GLADLY pay more for.

I can stand on my morals - wish, hope, and pray things were different - with other issues.

But when innocent children's lives are at stake, that all goes out the window. Saving lives is the most important of all things.



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I'm fervently pro-choice and am very happy that the number of abortions has decreased. I'm firmly in the belief that abortion should be legal, safe and rare


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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:22:32 AM
Less unplanned pregnancies. Fewer abortions. That's wonderful wonderful news.

Especially in teens.


I don't have a moral issue with birth control.

I don't have a problem with places like Planned Parenthood or college health centers giving it out for free/low cost.

IUD's are effective birth control, but they don't do anything for STD's. It doesn't do much for a kid's life if they prevent pregnancy, yet catch an STD, so I hope whatever follow-up studies they do don't show an increase in disease.





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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:27:20 AM

this pill is ok, then why isn't some other pill they want to swallow ok?


Well, obviously. This is why I teach my own children that vitamins are a slippery slope.



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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:59:28 AM
Skybar... Since when did taking the pill mean you have no morals?

Women of all ages (some sexually active, some not), both married and single... Even Christian women (GASP!) use birth control for a number of reasons. It isn't just to prevent promiscuous hussies from producing babies.

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The larger implications for me are that keeping girls from being mothers until they are educated and employed also means they much less likely to live in poverty with their (eventual) families.

It's a simple equation, and it works out to everyone's benefit: kids, mothers, society


That.

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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:39:48 AM
Fewer abortions is fabulous news!
I am a conservative who has no problem with birth control at all.
I do not think the gov't should pay for free birth control, among many many things I don't think the gov't should pay for. Insurance premiums, OK, although now that might be all tied into gov't money, so there's the sticky wicket for me.

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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:20:59 AM

IUD's are effective birth control, but they don't do anything for STD's. It doesn't do much for a kid's life if they prevent pregnancy, yet catch an STD, so I hope whatever follow-up studies they do don't show an increase in disease.


It's irrelevant, though. B/c you're not giving this to women who were using condoms anyway. If that was the case, we wouldn't be addressing a reduction in abortions. It shouldn't be an increase in disease b/c they didn't use the IUD instead of a condom. These were people using no protection and getting pregnant, hence the abortion rates.

You're talking about two separate, but very important issues that need to be tackled.


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Iud's I think are not typically given unless you have had one child.


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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:30:37 AM
I'm 19 years old and have been on birth control for over a year. I also have morals. And I don't (and won't) do drugs. But thanks for the concern, Skybar.


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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:37:02 AM
I know I was like DUH!!!

If people are so against abortion then why make birth control so hard to get and so expensive. "why should I be paying for your birth control - you want to have sex, you pay for it". This is what people on 2peas have said!


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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:41:44 AM
That is amazing. I think teens and sex are part of our life if we like it or not. I believe this shows that there are things we can do to help the situation.

I have two boys and believe me I will make sure they understand how to prevent a pregnancy when the time comes. I will certainly try to explain to them about not having sex but I am not going to bury my head when the time comes.


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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:41:54 AM

Anna - the study found IUD and implants the most effective.

Well, that makes sense. No daily responsibility on the part of the teen once it's in place. Can't imagine there are too many 15-19 year old out there in the general populace with implants or IUDs though.

I wonder about the rates for condom and/or pill usage alone. (No, I didn't read the study.)



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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:46:31 AM
I'd also like to mention that I paid property taxes for 10 years and a lot of that money went to support my local schools.

I don't have children and have never used the local schools at all.

We ALL pay for stuff that we personally don't need or use bc it is of benefit to the whole society.

So any complaints about paying for birth control when you personally don't need it hold no water with me.


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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:07:14 AM
It is funny to me though I'm glad it is cheaper but I took myself at 16 to planned parenthood and BC was 8.00 a pack...

How much is it now?

Btw iud's are avoided bc they "can" cause infertility if placed wrong. I'm sure they would do them but aren't tht Really expensive and I don't think insurance covers most of them.... I think?


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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:08:09 AM
I'm adamantly pro-life and I have no problem with most birth control. My kids have always and will always have access to it, no questions asked, in my house. I used to keep condoms under the sink in the bathroom. They could help themselves and I would replenish when needed. I'm sure their friends were the receipent of some as well. And I say GOOD!

How long was the study? I had implants and they SUCKED! They poked and moved and got so wrapped in scar tissue that I almost had to be put under to get them out.

I also have a Mirena. It is not without side effects too. And regular non-hormone IUDs tend to increase menstrual flow. Not something teens want to deal with I'm sure.

So I was wondering how many of these teens continued with these methods long term or if the study was long enough to validate that. I also worry about lack of condom use when using other methods. I'd like to see the STD stats too.





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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:11:46 AM

this pill is ok, then why isn't some other pill they want to swallow ok?



don't get this correlation.... because i took b/c pills, i'm a risk to become addicted to ecstasy??

my mom put me on the pill when i was 15 due to bad cramps (i fainted several times at work and at school). it made a huge difference in my quality of life. i wasn't having sex yet and certainly didn't jump into the sack with the first boy who came along because i "could".

the only thing that will make some happy is if you make the same choices they did. period.

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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:52:28 AM

Fewer abortions is fabulous news!
I am a conservative who has no problem with birth control at all.
I do not think the gov't should pay for free birth control, among many many things I don't think the gov't should pay for. Insurance premiums, OK, although now that might be all tied into gov't money, so there's the sticky wicket for me.



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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:19:22 AM

Iud's I think are not typically given unless you have had one child.


That's not true. My SIL, myself and several friends, all of which had never had kids, either had an IUD or were given the option of having an IUD.


I'm sure they would do them but aren't tht Really expensive and I don't think insurance covers most of them.... I think?


Maybe it depends on insurance, but again, none of us had a problem with our insurance not covering it if that was the option we chose to take.



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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:24:24 AM
I think whether you are pro life or pro choice, Christian or atheist, or anything in between- no matter what you believe:

This is a good thing! Fewer abortions are a good thing!


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