If you won a cash prize raffle- would you feel obligated to donate all of part of the prize back?

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:42:18 PM
Just wondering. I haven't won anything.
But I buy raffle tickets for fundraisers throughout the year. Some of them are for actual items, and some are for cash prizes.

I just got tickets in the mail from P.A.W.S. (local no-kill animal shelter)- to either sell or buy. I usually buy them myself. I've never won anything- but I never win anything, so that's no surprise. I just like to participate in their fundraising efforts when I can.

But it got me thinking. The prizes are $1000, $500, $250 and $100. If you won one of those prizes, would you feel obligated or compelled to give it back to the organization? All or part?

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:43:43 PM
That's never crossed my mind. It's a prize. If I won it, I may donate part of it, but I don't see why I'd feel obligated to do so.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:45:58 PM
I'd say it's the norm to donate it back at in-person raffles, say, the ones that happen HS sporting events, auctions, dinners, etc..

Based on what I've seen volunteering for organizations, it is not that common for the winner to donate it back if it's not an in-person drawing.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:46:13 PM
I wouldn't feel obligated unless it was a fundraiser in which I was present and everyone else was donating it back to the cause.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:49:23 PM
Nope. Especially considering the amount of money they made selling all those tickets.



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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:51:44 PM
Well I would be the doofus gleefully taking the money and run. It wouldn't occur to me to donate it back.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:51:50 PM
No, if I bought a raffle ticket then I did my part for the fundraising.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:51:55 PM
It's pretty common here to give it back.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:53:26 PM
Wait- is the eye roll for me (BudgetMama), for asking the question?

I mean- I'm not saying either is right or wrong. But I know people do 'donate back'. I'm just wondering how the Peas feel.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:55:24 PM

Well I would be the doofus gleefully taking the money and run. It wouldn't occur to me to donate it back.

This is me too. I just wouldn't think of it. LOL

I think budgetmama was eyerolling herself Sues.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:57:18 PM

No, if I bought a raffle ticket then I did my part for the fundraising.
That. I'd have no qualms at all about keeping the prize.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:58:55 PM

Well I would be the doofus gleefully taking the money and run. It wouldn't occur to me to donate it back.


Same here.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:00:05 PM
Well, I'm one of those parents who help sell the 50/50 raffle tickets and honestly, it's about evenly split between those who keep the 50% he/she won and those who donate the winnings back.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:04:34 PM

Well, I'm one of those parents who help sell the 50/50 raffle tickets and honestly, it's about evenly split between those who keep the 50% he/she won and those who donate the winnings back.

Wow, that surprises me. At 50/50s around here - which happen at pretty much every sporting event - the only people who ever keep it are kids who win.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:22:18 PM
I would not have even thought of it honestly. GREAT now the next time I win I guess I will be givig it back.. LOL...



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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:25:35 PM
It would depend how strongly I felt towards the cause and their needs.

I'd me much more likely to do it for a small local charity.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:27:10 PM
It's never crossed my mind...I don't think I'd feel obligated to return the money considering such cash prizes are MEANT to intice raffle sales.

Admittedly, if the non-profit was for ending world hunger, or some other noble "let's feed the homeless cause" then sure why not. But it'd be an oxymoron wouldn't you think? If the charity needs money to function, then why give it away via a cash prize? So the likelihood of it occurring (in my mind) is minimal.

Besides, I don't win...so my whole post is moot!

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:29:03 PM
I know this drawing is right before Christmas and right after we come back from vacation. It would be hard to pass up some unexpected cash. But I know I'd feel compelled to donate at least part of it back. I have a soft spot for this shelter. They do such good things.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:55:25 PM
Huh, it never would have occurred to me to donate it back!

Once I was at an event and the guy who won was on the board of the organization, and he seemed all embarrassed that he won and donated it back, but I thought that was to avoid any appearance of impropriety with a board member winning, didn't occur to me it was something people do!


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Posted: 10/10/2012 1:58:43 PM

The prizes are $1000, $500, $250 and $100.


See I would assume they make much more than $1850 (the prize total) so they are only giving back a fraction of the total. Am I wrong in thinking this? Is it a hardship to give out the prize?




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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:00:38 PM
I'd say it is extraordinarily common for 50/50 raffle winners, where I am, to donate back. My Dh won and did so a few years ago.

I don't think I've ever seen a raffle with a cash prize other than that, though.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:05:28 PM
Everyone's made fair points but I guess I don't see the point in participating in a raffle if you're not going to keep the winnings.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:09:00 PM
I'd never think to do it either...of course, I've never won so maybe that's part of the problem.

If the "norm" wherever you are is to give it back, then why have that kind of raffle at all? Why go through the expense and pain of having tickets printed, given out, monies collected when in the end, you simply expect the winners to hand back over the cash?

So, if I win a car? Vera Bradley bag? Bushel of steamed crabs? I should just sell 'em and give the $$ back?

I just don't get the idea behind it.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:09:06 PM
Most of the places around here either people keep or they give back 50%. I did go to a benefit for a little boy that has cancer and everyone donated back the prizes they won.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:14:09 PM
Ata benefit i would give it back
At a fundraiser...i would keep it

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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:18:42 PM
I used to work our volunteer fire department BINGOs and the majority of the time if someone won a big jackpot they would donate a portion back to us. It is not necessary though.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:18:49 PM
What is the point of even having a "raffle" if everyone is expected to donate it back? Why not just throw the money in a giant pot and let them keep it?

I would keep my winnings thank you very much.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:31:09 PM

So, if I win a car? Vera Bradley bag? Bushel of steamed crabs? I should just sell 'em and give the $$ back?


I have seen this happen. We had parents at our elementary school in CA and then here in WA that would win something at a silent auction, pay for it and then let the school sell it to the second winner. I remember once it was around $1,800 for an front of the row parking spot.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:33:00 PM
It wouldn't occur to me unless it was a fundraiser specifically for a person due to a death or medical expense, etc.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:45:58 PM

I'd never think to do it either...of course, I've never won so maybe that's part of the problem.



Same here

I would probably spend most of it on my 4-H kids anyway so I'd just be giving it back to another non-profit


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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:50:49 PM
On our synagogue, we have a lot of raffles. If it is a monetary prize, we typically donate it back. If it is a non-monetary prize, the prize is kept.

Last year I won $180 at a synagogue raffle but donated it back.

I also won an iPad at our golf outing raffle and kept that!!

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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:51:36 PM
Depends on what it was for. Ill person/family hardship...donate it to the family.

Now, if it were my kid's group, I'd keep it. But, it would be used for something to benefit the group at a later date.




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Posted: 10/10/2012 2:59:02 PM
Count me as another that doesn't get it. Why not just give a donation then and skip the raffle all together? Are people even excited when they win, given that they are just going to give it back?

I've never thought about this because I don't attend anything with this type of raffle, I suppose.


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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:01:06 PM
Never heard of donating it back.

If I buy a raffle ticket and I win, I keep the prize, whether it be cash or not. Isn't that the point of the raffle in the first place?

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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:04:10 PM
I would not feel obligated to do it and I would keep the cash if I felt like it.

OP, I know the organization you are talking about and I consider them a "high end" charity -- they don't seem to be hurting for money. All of their benefits are big ticket events and their magazine is professional and glossy and slick. Yes, these could all be donated things, but if so, they have a lot of wealthy backers and I would keep the money.

At the non-profit I work at, we always have 50/50 raffles at events. I would say most of the time, people give back either 50% or the portion they didn't use on Silent Auction items. They tend to be generous because they know it's for the kids.

But obligated is what you asked about and I have never felt obligated nor have I ever judged anyone who kept the money.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:15:34 PM

Wow, that surprises me. At 50/50s around here - which happen at pretty much every sporting event - the only people who ever keep it are kids who win.


That never happens in our area!! People keep their winnings. I am looking at the responses - could this be a regional/west coast thing? A certain social circle/economic level thing?

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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:20:06 PM
I had no idea people gave raffle winnings back. It has never happened at a fundraiser I've been part of. Really and truly. It would never have occurred to me to do it.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:20:31 PM

could this be a regional/west coast thing

I'd say it's regional. I attend sporting events at all different kinds of schools, from very expensive private schools to Title 1 schools, so I don't think it's a socioeconomic thing.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:48:27 PM
I won a $50 visa gift card through a school athletic fundraiser. Kid came to my door and I bought a ticket. They called me and dropped it off a week later. I kept and spent it. I haven't heard of people around here donating the $$ back.


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For most fund raisers for groups in our town it is expected that you will give them the money. I am talking sports, band, etc
Now at the last one my son is a teacher. Imagine our surprise when we won almost 300 from the 50/50. He insisted we give it all back.
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Posted: 10/10/2012 5:03:10 PM
I'd never heard of nor would it have occurred to me to give back the winnings. Good thing I read this thread because I live on the west coast, and it's saved me from a terrible faux pas. To be honest, what it's saved me from is ever participating in another raffle. I'll just donate to the causes I like and skip the raffles.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 5:07:07 PM
I have volunteered with Festival of Trees (hospital fundraiser for kids) and a local art museum kick off --- big money coming through at auctions. And, they were routinely donating it back to the organization... 'it' being money and the items auctioned to 're-auction'. Tax write off complete, reused (many times immediately - for auction again).

Do you have to... no!
Is it uncommon... no!

I suppose it just depends on what you are there for or the cause and how you are behind it.



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Posted: 10/10/2012 6:08:33 PM

What is the point of even having a "raffle" if everyone is expected to donate it back? Why not just throw the money in a giant pot and let them keep it?


Around here it is pretty much expected that that winner will donate it back. I have been at benefit committee meetings where a 50-50 was proposed and was pitched based on the fact that the organizers fully expected the prize would be donated back. I think this is disingenuous and I argued against including a 50-50 if that was the expectation going in. This is a major pet peeve of mine.

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Posted: 10/10/2012 6:11:12 PM
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Posted: 10/10/2012 6:19:57 PM
If I bought raffle tickets for a fundraiser, it was because I would have enjoyed winning whatever it was being raffled and I would keep whatever it was. I have had times where i didn't buy raffle tickets and just gave a donation instead.

For a benefit, I would just make a donation. Actually, I am not sure I have seen a raffle that was for a benefit for someone to help with medical expenses or a death, etc. I have seen things like a band playing and you make a donation at the door, or other similar events.





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Posted: 10/10/2012 6:27:47 PM
When I worked as a fundraiser for a small non-profit, we certainly appreciated if someone donated cash back but did not expect it. And never would I have tolerated any of my staff or volunteers looking down on someone who did not donate it back.

Now, as to those auction items, we did not want those to be donated back - they are often dated or unique to a theme, and not necessarily easy for the non-profit to store, return to donor or otherwise get rid of. In fact, with an art piece donated by the artist, it can be really hurtful to the artist that the bidder did not keep the item (if they are present to see what happens). Keep those auction items, please.


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