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Posted: 11/8/2012 3:53:36 PM
(Seems like between DH and myself, we're wrecks--I guess we ARE lately!!).

Went to my general doctor today because I have an eye infection and I've put off getting my ear checked (I don't think they're related). I've been losing hearing in that ear daily over the past month, but I've been too busy to go to my doctor. I finally got to go today. She said there was "tons" of wax but it wasn't too deep in the canal. I've had that happen once before when I was pregnant and they flushed it out. Fine.............

The doctor looked at it and then went in like a trojan with a long instrument and a long q-tip and got a lot of wax out. It freakin' hurt! I had to keep holding my ear up and back for her. I told her how much it hurt. She responded with, "It's not even really in your canal!" Well, it hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She followed up with few drops of something oily and then packed it with cotton and said, "You might see some blood-it's normal". Umm, okay!!

About 1/2 hour later, it HURT even more. Now, 6 hours later, it's still hurting, a ton. Is this normal?? She said I could follow up with a syringe and even the home ear kit, but I don't want to touch it. Is there anything I could do to relieve the pain??? Praying she didn't puncture my ear drum or something. I don't remember it hurting like this, ever.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 3:56:58 PM
That does not sound normal. Did she say you had an infection? Ear infections can hurt worse than a ruptured ear drum. I wouldn't put anything in the ear. Take something orally for the pain. Call back tomorrow if it is still hurting. Don't suffer with it all weekend.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 3:59:42 PM
icedpea: Damn! Forgot what day it was. YES, thanks--I'll definitely call back tomorrow if it still hurts!! I have an eye infection, for sure, but she didn't say the ear was infected--just that it was impacted with wax. I never had it taken out, dry, like that! They always did it with the drops and syringe and I don't remember it hurting. Ooy.









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:04:22 PM
I wonder if the wax was stuck to the skin in there, and pulling it out like she did, dry-- irritated the skin in the canal? Sounds painful!







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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:07:23 PM
Um my doctor sure as hell didn't do that to me when I had a large amount of wax in my ear. They flushed my ear out with a warm water solution and my doctor said that if it happens again I can go back in and have them flush it out or I can get a kit from the drug store.

But the one thing she insisted I not do is STICK SOMETHING IN MY EAR! She gave me a long lecture on how I could cause damage to my ear and that she didn't even really want me using a q-tip to clean it out. She said it was fine right in the shell area but to not go in the canal.


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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:14:16 PM
thatgirl: I know! I'm so careful not to stick q-tips in there, ever, so to see her just digging around, made me think twice. She was eager just to get it out, but it shouldn't hurt MORE now.

Things are just NEVER easy procedures for me and for my DH lately!!









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:23:44 PM
My mother used to get her ear wax pulled regularly (it caused hearing loss in her also) but never mentioned it hurting. Don't know if she would have said anything though. My son had compacted earwax once when he was about middle school aged. The doctor dug with the long instrument, put some kind of fluid in it to soften it, dug some more. His earwax was so compacted, he was sent home to use hydrogen peroxide in it to soften it and we went back for one or more appointments. I could tell it hurt him a lot. The doctor said years of using Qtips basically compacted the wax so deeply and tightly that it was hard to pull the plug out. I was watching and I thought he pulled some pretty big plugs out on the first visit, but nothing like what washed out with the hydrogen peroxide. We poured a teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide in the ear canal with son laying on his side. It will bubble out so have a rag to wipe it. That really seemed to loosen and soften it.

I'm thinking maybe I need to go since I'm experiencing some hearing loss in one ear. Thanks for reminding me.


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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:26:34 PM
I saw the other post about the ear wax being so impacted that it was actually attached to the skin in the ear canal. This is exactly what happened to my son, why it hurt so much and why we had to go back a few times. Maybe your doctor just tugged a bit too much. I know our doctor kept saying he didn't want to tug too much or it would hurt but it was stuck to the skin. Try the hydrogen peroxide. It might relieve the pain but it should soften the plug.


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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:27:43 PM
Karen: You're welcome--don't wait til it gets beyond bad! Duh!!! I've had it done before and it didn't hurt. This time she didn't put anything but instruments in there. I'm thinkin' she should have softened it up. This is just my luck lately!!!!!!!!


She DID say something about the skin and it bled, so you're probably right. Okay, I'll follow up with the H.P. asap. Thanks!









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:29:12 PM
I had the same issue in June! And it hurt when she put that tube in my ear and my ear started bleeding. I thought for sure she popped my ear drum, it hurt that bad for a day. Your ear should feel better in a day I feel your pain!


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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:32:17 PM
nicole: Yes, she put the tube thing in my ear. Okay, I'll hold onto the fact that it should feel better. Thank you!! It felt like she pulled out my whole ear drum! Seriously. And I'm not a baby.

(Paranoid that the spreedsheet Peas will check my previous posts to see ALL of the medical posts I've posted within the past 9 months! Yeesh!) I swear, freakish things are happening to me and to DH! I don't have munchausen!









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:35:59 PM
I have twice had my ear get so blocked from wax that it affected my hearing. The first time I was going to doctor anyway and they used a syringe and a warm water and hydrogen peroxide solution to flush it out.

This last time I used the ear wax removal drops for several days. Bought the special irrigation syringe too. It took about three days, but one morning I used the syringe and this HUGE clump of wax came out. I put those earwax removal drops in my ears about once a month just so it won't happen again.





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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:39:10 PM
irishscrapper: So you never had it done dry? Dunno why she just went in there with her instruments like a trojan, but it hurt like hell! It should have been a clue that since I lost hearing, it was impacted.









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:39:38 PM
WOW....

I am a wuss and would be heading to the urgent care.

hope your ear feels better soon.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:46:31 PM
I just took my mom to the DR. today for an ear infection. Here's a tip for you, did they give you eye drops for your eye infection? IF so you can use antibiotics eye drops in your ear, if you think your ear is infected.

I found this out when the pharmacy was out of ear infection drops and they substituted eye drops instead. I was told by the pharmacy when I called that you can use eye drops in the ear, but you CANNOT use ear drops in the eye.

The reason I knew right away their were eye drops is because they were the same drops that I had to use on her when she had cataract surgery last month.


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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:46:43 PM
Thanks, meg. We've been at the E.R. or hospital over 20 times in the past 9 months. I think we should get a wing there at this point. I'll do a warm compress and take something strong for tonight, but will DEFINITELY call or go tomorrow before the weekend comes!









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:48:54 PM
I have to go the ENT doctor periodically to get my ear flushed. He usually puts a liquid in there to soften things up and then suctions it out. It doesn't hurt, but it is uncomfortable. I'd try to make an appointment with an ENT doctor.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:52:11 PM
pretzels: Thanks, it'll be on my list----I'll try to find one tomorrow! Been busy with DH (just diagnosed with bladder cancer), so my own needs were on the back-burner, but I HAD to go today b/c I really couldn't hear anymore.









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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:54:15 PM
look4angel: Thanks! I pick up the Rxs tomorrow. Of course the pharmacy didn't have it in their store today! LOL. It's a steroid ointment + steroid drops. I'll try it!









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Posted: 11/8/2012 5:01:36 PM
When I was like 6 or 7 I remember going to the doctor for a checkup and him being really surprised at how much wax I had in my ear. He said it needed to come out right then. So he went and got this really long metal ear wax scraper and pulled a bunch out. But I do not remember it hurting. I also do not remember him putting anything in there beforehand.

When I went to my very first GYN appointment, the doctor checked my ears and said that they were full of wax, and that she would have it removed for me. (Not the hole I expected them to do any digging in that day! ). The nurse set up a warm water irrigation, and they basically pumped tons of water into my ear canal and flushed everything out. So freaking gross. Unfortunately, there was a lot in there, and it took a LONG time to get it all out. And because it had been in there for so long, it was attached to my ear canal skin. When the bigger pieces started coming out, it hurt a lot. I told them this, and they explained that it was the skin being pulled, etc. Well, after they were done, the doctor came back in to check. She noted the bleeding, and had me lay down for a little while until the bleeding stopped. When I asked if I could just go home instead, she said no, that I had to wait until the bleeding stopped so that they could look again to make sure the eardrum hadn't been ruptured. After 10 or 15 minutes or so the bleeding stopped, eardrum was fine, and I finally got to go home. But my ears hurt for the rest of the day, and some of the next day too.

Because you had bleeding, and are in pain, I would definitely follow up with them again tomorrow. Just to be sure they didn't accidentally get your eardrum. But, if they did, I would imagine you would be a little bit (or a lot) dizzy?



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Posted: 11/8/2012 5:08:18 PM
I have taken my dd a number of times to the ENT and he dug out wax with a long tool thingy. It never hurt tons just a bit because the ear is sensitive. Hope things get better.


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Posted: 11/8/2012 5:10:26 PM
Thanks, PierKiss. Amazingly, as soon as they got it all out, I felt LESS dizzy b/c I could hear! They did get some skin and she said it'll stop bleeding later (she's very rough!). I will check it out tomorrow if it continues. For now I took one of DH's valiums! Hope it helps.

I should have stopped her when she didn't put the drops in before digging in there! I never heard of them just digging in there, dry. No wonder it bled.









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Posted: 11/8/2012 5:46:33 PM
My son gets some serious wax build-up in his ears, and his pediatrician won't even touch them; we go to the ENT.

His ENT puts on a miner-type hat with a light and a camera on it, and it projects on a t.v. Honestly, the first time he had it done I almost barfed because I'm looking at the inside of ds' ear, and all of the wax in it, on this big tv. Anyway, he then takes that long ear wax scooper and started taking it out, really, really slowly. It never hurt ds, and he had A LOT. DS actually said it tickled and felt oh, so good when all the wax was out.

I have to make an appointment for a referral back to the ENT because DS can tell when the wax is building up because he can't hear, and we notice he starts to almost yell when talking.

I would really go to an ENT.


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Posted: 11/8/2012 5:50:04 PM
I am an audiologist. I have my doctorate. I remove wax from the ears of my patients on a regular basis.

1) it shouldn't hurt like that and not this length of time later.
2) under no circumstances should you put ANY type of drop or water in your ear unless a physician or audiologist looks in your ear and verifies your eardrum is intact (no hole)... *Some* liquids getting through even a tiny hole into your middle ear can cause permanent hearing loss- it's not worth the risk!

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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:25:13 PM
Kristin: Thanks. I'm hoping it hurts b/c she did it with just the tools and she's not exactly delicate! I won't put anything in it then. I'll just make sure it's dry after showers, and if it still hurts tomorrow, I'll see if I could get into an ENT's office just to double-check it.

Devildog: Did they put the drops in before scooping it? I would normally like that scooping bit but I hit the ceiling when she reached a certain point and wouldn't let up.

Luanne: Thanks. Yeah, it was the long scoopy thing, btu it hurt like hell. And did that doctor do the drops first or anything numbing, or did he just take his time and scoop carefully??

Thanks so much, Peas. I'll wait it out and definitely go somewhere tomorrow if it still hurts. I looked it up online as soon as I got home, but the Peas have more info than even the Mayo Clinic online!










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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:42:06 PM
When my dr pulled wax out of my ear, it hurt like an m-er f-er. But, it stopped hurting a few hours later (and there was some blood too).

I totally feel your pain! Hope it gets over quickly!

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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:46:04 PM
Haha--thanks Nicole!

jediannie: Who knew? I thought it would feel good (and a relief). Dayum. Thanks.









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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:48:35 PM
I've never heard of any doctor removing wax like you've described it, only syringing. I had hearing loss before from a huge wax plug. I went to the doctor and she recommended ear wax softening drops and irrigation. I did home irrigation and it worked a treat. Hurt a bit at the time and for a little while afterwards, but nothing compared to what you seem to be describing.



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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:51:54 PM
Lisa: me either! It was unexpected! She was like a woman on a mission as soon as she saw it! I'm still in the process of switching my primary doctor....... this confirms it!









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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:55:48 PM

Devildog: Did they put the drops in before scooping it? I would normally like that scooping bit but I hit the ceiling when she reached a certain point and wouldn't let up.


I'm pretty sure he didn't put any drops in his ears first; I could be wrong, but I really don't remember him doing that. He just went really, really slow. That camera thing was weird. While it wasn't the most enjoyable thing to watch on the tv, I also couldn't turn away, especially when he said one of the tubes that was put in a few years prior was in there and he pointed it out on the t.v.

My ds is actually looking forward to going back.

I hope you're feeling better soon!


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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:58:56 PM
Devildog: Geez, I was grossed out. I didn't wanna watch + I apologized to her b/c I felt badly for her having to scoop that out. Ick! Hope your DD doesn't have a rough time of it next time!! I guess if they go slowly, it's not too bad. This biotch was rough! LOL.









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Posted: 11/8/2012 8:08:09 PM
UGGH Dh and I have both been there with the build up especially during swimming season. This year he got it bad. Have you tried perioxide? I'm suprised she didn't give you drops or anything. They have numbing drops. It worked great for DH. He hated it going in but once it started to work it was much better and loosened things up.




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Posted: 11/8/2012 8:13:56 PM
I have gone to an ENT doc in the past and he uses a thin ear vacuum after using tweezer-like tools to reach the easy stuff first. I prefer the vacuum to having water squeezed into my ear...so messy. I hope your pain goes away soon.

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How is your DH>??? Hope the pain in your ear is better...I'd almost be tempted to think that your eye infection is related to the ear issue...they are all connected sort of....



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Posted: 11/8/2012 8:14:55 PM
az: Nope. She's a quick talker and she barely touches me so this was amazing, although ROUGH. I'll try to keep on top of it after I'm sure it's healed this weekend. At least I can hear again!









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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:04:38 AM
First of all I am a nurse that works in an ENT office.

As you were advised earlier DO NOT PUT ANY WATER OR DROPS in your ear! Keep your ear as dry as possible. Esp when showering. If you need to dry your ear out use a hairdryer on low heat and low force and simply sweep it back an forth until you feel like the water has dried.

Make an apt with an ENT. It sounds like after the treatment you endured, you may need medication. My dr likes Ciprodex. It is a mixture of antibiotic and steroids.

Good luck to you!


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Posted: 11/9/2012 8:09:03 AM
Thank you mamamules. Will do, and I'll keep it dry. Funny that the moist humidity here (FL) seems to be the root of many illnesses that breed!!! I should take a blowdryer to everyone one me after each shower!!!

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Posted: 11/9/2012 8:22:26 AM
I Q-tip daily and have never had an ear wax build up, but can honestly say that it sounds like a horrible, medieval solution to your issue. Did she want to 'bleed you' for other issues, lol?

Sorry, but if anyone told me I would see blood after an ear wax removal that was not even in the canal, I would be finding another doctor. Is she part duck? Because that just sounds like a quack!

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Posted: 11/9/2012 8:28:08 AM
I'm a q-tip user (shame on me!) but still have so much wax buildup. I've never had to have anything shoved in my ear, just drops for 10 minutes to soften wax and then them coming back in to irrigate.

I always sit there with my jaw dropped because there is so much.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 9:08:42 AM
I've cleaned out a lot of ears. It's actually quite common for there to be blood after removal as the wax adheres to the skin and the skin tears when we pull off the wax. The skin in your ear canal is very vascular and can bleed quite a bit.

However, the pain shouldn't be getting worse. I doubt she ruptured your eardrum but don't put anything in your ear just in case. Have it checked today.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 9:35:37 AM
When I have compacted wax and have to have it removed it hurts like hell. Partly because the wax sticks to the canal. Partly becuse it seals the canal, causing a pressure build up. When the wax comes out the pressure changes and my ear is sore for a few days until my adjusts to the new pressure.



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Posted: 11/9/2012 11:23:57 AM
Try hopi ear candles, weird I know but the girls at work swear by them. It's a small hollow candle that you put in your ear and it sucks the wax up the channel of the candle. Painlessly.

We buy them here in health food shops.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH, PEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love advice!! After I scored my DH's valium, I slept all night and feel 100% better. Hearing is back and the pain is gone. It did bleed a little more but I'm not touching it now. Thanks! (I was freaking out--this was ALL I needed right now! LOL)









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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:22:32 PM
that doesnt sound normal. did you get antibiotics for the eye infection? If so hopefully theyll help you ear too

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Bethie: Yup, the pharmacy JUST called to tell me it's ready, so I could finally begin it today. Wonder if it's all connected..........









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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:51:15 PM
At every checkup with my pediatrician, he always said, 'never stick anything in your ear smaller than a baseball bat!' and I never did. Lol. Never a qtip or an anything. And I've never had an ear infection or wax that needed to be removed.

So either he was a genius, or I am a freak of nature (as are my kids) lol,

Glad your ear feels better.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 12:17:57 AM

As you were advised earlier DO NOT PUT ANY WATER OR DROPS in your ear! Keep your ear as dry as possible. Esp when showering
Is this every day/everybody advice or just because her ear hurt?


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Posted: 11/10/2012 9:53:20 AM
freecharlie: Good question!!!!!! I thought she meant forever. She said I could try that otc Dubrox stuff if it gets bad, but other than that, keep water out of it and don't stick anything in it (q-tips, etc...).








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