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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:26:03 PM
A new, but out of packaging, toy/in this case kid camera?

I found the camera we want to get for DN on eBay. New, all the parts but not in packaging. If it were my kid I wouldn't bat an eye, but what goes for my guys doesn't always apply to others in DHs family. Thoughts?

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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:27:41 PM
It wouldn't bother me.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:28:55 PM
Wouldn't bother me at all. You could get a cute little gift box for it.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:32:02 PM
I would like to say it would not, but yes. It would bother me. Cannot return. Think cheap garage sale or eBay find. Now, if given as just an "I got a good deal on this and thought of you" gift not for birthdays or Christmas, which is how I would give that, then ok. A different item, it might not bother me, but that one, it would.



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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:33:13 PM
It wouldn't bother me. I like the idea of looking for a neat box for it.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:37:03 PM
In this case since its a camera I'd probably give them a camera case too so I could put it in that. That way it could make sense why its not in a box



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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:38:38 PM
If it still worked and was in mint or close to mint condition, I wouldn't mind. If it was scratched or something, I think I would.

Do the instructions come with it.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:46:37 PM
Some of youbseriously would bebothered?
It is a gift...you dont get to decide

Wow

I wouldnt mind at all

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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:51:20 PM
ginacivey, do you ever do anything but judge other peas who don't think the same as you?

OP, I guess I wouldn't mind it if it includes the parts, instructions, etc.

The main problem is, there's no receipt, no store, no way to return it if it's a duplicate, something goes wrong, etc. I think it WOULD have a bit of a garage-sale feel to the whole thing.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:53:34 PM
Ya actually i do.
Maybe you only notice the one sthat bother you.



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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:57:24 PM

Some of youbseriously would bebothered?
It is a gift...you dont get to decide

Wow

I wouldnt mind at all


Frankly, it would bother me, too. Aside from the fact that I don't know that it is new but just out of package, what the heck am I supposed to do if it doesn't work? I can't take it back to a store and seek a refund or exchange. I can't seek a warranty repair from the manufacturer.

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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:58:07 PM
Since this is a kid camera gift, I might ask one of the parents if they thought the niece would like it letting them know that since it is an ebay purchase, you would not be able to return it. Some will be fine with it and others, not so much. For example, I know my DSS would not mind if I bought one of the grandkids something that was used but still nice. Heck, he has bought one of his kids a used item before. He is all about a bargain but still getting what you want. On the other hand, there are other people that I know that would not be happy with a not new gift, unless it was something vintage.





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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:01:48 PM
It would bother me. Like the others said, it feels "used". Used stuff is ok for everyday, but not for birthdays/holidays.

Have you checked Amazon or another discounter for a deal?




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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:01:57 PM
See now lucy...i wondered and someone answered.

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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:04:13 PM
I would be more concerned.

What if it didn't work or was missing something.

I take caution when buying electronics and wouldn't buy a gift like this on ebay that was not in the orignial package.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:09:33 PM
I think something like that should not be given as a holiday or birthday gift, rather a "just because" gift.

I wouldn't think less of it as a gift if it were given to my kid but I would never give something out of the package to another child for a gift.

With that said, I have given my own children used video games that I purchased at GameStop. I wouldn't, however, give one to someone else's child.



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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:11:34 PM
This caused an ongoing fight in our family.

2 scenarios:

1. My son had bought a portable DVD player (he's always been a tech gadget kid). Well, he seems to lose interest pretty quickly. After using it only a few times, he decided he was going to sell it. He paid around $75 for it, but wanted to sell it, in the original box, for $50. We decided to buy it for my husband's granddaughter (the middle of 3 girls). It was in perfect condition. The only down side was, the girls had seen it when they'd stayed at our house. I didn't think much of it because there's lots of DVD players, and it was still more than we'd planned on spending.
A few months later when something broke on it (they were rough on stuff), a shit storm came brewing us being accused of giving "used gifts". Technically yes, but no more used than a returned or refurbished DVD player - brand new in box.

2. Before THAT happened, we bought the girls a dollhouse, complete with furniture (little tikes plastic model), at a garage sale. looked like it had never been played with - super steal for like $5. We told them that we bought it at an "antique store" and they were perfectly fine with that.

Girls loved it.

So I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying know your audience.


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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:37:32 PM
I just bought a pair of cords on eBay, new without tags.. They arrived with a nice hole in the behind and I promptly sent them back. That is the only problem with eBay - returning when something doesn't work.

Used doesn't bother me, out of package doesn't bother me, but what to do with it if it doesn't work really bothers me.

Costco often gets kids cameras around the holidays new bought older dd's about 4 yrs ago and I think I've seen it every year since,the kidzoom one.

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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:43:14 PM
I wouldn't mind, I'd just be happy you thought of my kids. I know when I purchased a used camera once, I downloaded the instructions from the internet, so that might help you, as well.

On another note, I bought my grand kids the Fisher Price kids camera about 3 years ago, and they were a piece of crap, and never did take a decent photo, even when I was using it. I don't know if it's the same one you are thinking about purchasing or not. I was SO disappointed since I usually love Fisher Price toys.

I bought 2, and both took crappy photos, they were about $59-49.00 a piece.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 1:40:06 AM
In my family it wouldn't matter. We often buy used and on ebay.

It's the thought that counts not how much $$ was spent.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 2:16:39 AM
Wouldn't bother me as long as it worked properly and wasn't dirty.

You might consider giving it in a gift basket. Camera, kid's book on photography, camera case etc...that way it doesn't even have the appearance of a used gift (if that is a concern of yours).




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Posted: 11/13/2012 4:18:38 AM
It wouldn't bother me in the least! I have often given our children second hand things for both Christmases and birthdays. Sometimes they are inexpensive, sometimes they are pricier things.

I don't think that something needs to be given 'just because' and cannot be a 'gift' just because it didn't come brand new from a retailer. To me, gift giving is about giving someone else something they would love and that suits their personality and interests. Not about it being in a sealed package.

But for some people, if it's not new in box, it just doesn't cut it, no matter how great of a gift it is, and whether or not it works perfectly.

I don't gift other people second hand, or new without box, items. Because I know not everyone feels the same way as I do.

I am also happy to receive new without box, or used items for myself as gifts.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 4:45:06 AM

I'm just saying know your audience.


ITA. In fact, I first thought I wouldn't mind receiving that, but then I thought if I received it from one SIL, I would mind. Because she isn't careful. Everyone else in my family is careful and thoughtful and I know if they got me something like that it'd be great and if it wasn't, it wouldn't be their fault. This SIL tends to pick up trash.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 5:24:18 AM
Yes, I would feel like my child received a used item.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 6:02:22 AM
In the scenario you are painting, yes it would bother me. I know you are buying the item on eBay but it may come across as a hand me down from one of your kids. Unless its a collectible or vintage, I would only buy new in box. For a regular gift yes but not Christmas/birthday.





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Posted: 11/13/2012 6:10:51 AM

I think "used" is okay as a gift only if it's truly vintage or even antique. In other words, the age is a plus.

For a child, I would want to buy new. Especially for a camera or gift of electronics.








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Posted: 11/13/2012 6:13:18 AM

I have given an open item before - we opened the digital picture frame we gave my dad and I "pre-loaded" about 100 pics on it so he could just plug it in - but I put it back in the box & gave him the gift receipt.

I have an irrational reaction to used items - so for me? That would bother me and I'd probably end up tossing it. (Just another viewpoint - so I agree that you should "know your audience).

On a side note, I got my son an awesome "kid's camera" last year and the pics are decent.

It's THIS ONE that's only $37 now!

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Posted: 11/13/2012 6:42:16 AM
For a kid? It is going to be "new" for all of 2 seconds.

Make sure you go through the steps of making sure it works. Putting it in a cute camera bag is a great idea. Why should anyone be concerned about less packaging on Christmas? If you must, tell the parents you got it on ebay. Not everything on ebay is used. I have purchased plenty of items that are new, out of package and many still in the package. In the package doesn't make it any "purer" than new out of package.

If they get their nose out of joint because it was from ebay, I would seriously rethink how I purchase for them next year - and I'm not talking about catering to their entitlement.



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Posted: 11/13/2012 6:50:21 AM
It would bother me. I feel a little icky for saying that, but it would. Unless something is vintage or a momento, a birthday or holiday gift should be new in the box.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 7:16:41 AM
Thank you for the replies. It is new, just not in the packaging. This ebay seller accepts returns.

I will look at Costco, I was there this weekend but did not see anything. Thanks!
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Posted: 11/13/2012 7:27:36 AM
A gift for your own kid? No problem. If something is wrong with the camera you would be the one to deal with the actual seller to make it right.

A gift for someone else's kid? Buy a new one in the box and give with a gift receipt. My sister gave my son a digital camera (new in package) and it did not work at all. I was able to take it back myself with no problem and never say a word to her abut it. Had it been out of the box then I would have been stuck with no way to return it. I would not have told my sister it was broken and basically the money ould have been wasted completely.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 7:42:12 AM
It would ONLY be okay for a parent to give something like this to their OWN kid, not another person's kid.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 7:51:52 AM
Presented right it wouldn't bother me. I like the idea of pairing it with a camera bag. Now if it was out of the box and just tossed in a gift bag I wouldn't suspect it was from Ebay, I'd think it was re-gifted from your kids toy box.



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Posted: 11/13/2012 7:54:09 AM

The main problem is, there's no receipt, no store, no way to return it if it's a duplicate, something goes wrong, etc. I think it WOULD have a bit of a garage-sale feel to the whole thing.



ITA. And yes, to be honest as the recipient I would assume it was found at a yard sale or was a used hand-me-down. Even if it was presented with a "neat case" or in a gift basket of camera items. I would definitely assume it was not new from a store.

I would never give a birthday/Christmas/event gift like that. Like others have said - as a "saw this and thought of you" gift, ok. But not for a real holiday/bday gift.

(Also as a side note - remember, people can easily lie on eBay. What makes you sure you really ARE getting a new camera for your money? So be careful on eBay)

Things without boxes can be stressful for the recipient even if they KNOW the item is new, anyway. If it ends up being a duplicate or something is wrong with it, the recipient then feels bad about not being able to return it and feels bad that you wasted your money.

(Hijack ahead!) My ILs do this all the time. They remove every toy they're giving to the kids from the boxes and set it all up - they think it's cute to have it set up and not wrapped up. Except half the time we already own the toy, and now the new one can't be returned!! I feel sick about how much money they've wasted doing this. They do the same with clothes - tags come off and they wash the items before giving them..."so the kids can wear it right away" - which I guess is a nice thought, but then if it doesn't fit we're out of luck and they're out more money..again!

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Posted: 11/13/2012 11:29:23 AM
Compromise - buy the camera along with a nice new camera bag (with packaging or it's tags left on). Give the camera bag as the gift and the camera is just a nice *extra* to go with it.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 11:56:13 AM

The main problem is, there's no receipt, no store, no way to return it if it's a duplicate, something goes wrong, etc.


I think this is more the problem. I see stuff all the time on daily deals sites and I won't even buy that for holidays/birthdays as a main gift because it's a pain to return or it can't be returned. I have bought puzzles and things like that as a little extra to include but I can't keep track of what my niece and nephews have and electronics are just too risky.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:01:14 PM
Saves me the trouble of trying to pry it out of the packaging while my kid is jumping up and down in crazed anticipation right next to me.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:01:43 PM
Wouldn't bother me. I see gifts like this: No one has to get you one. There's no rule that it has to be presented a certain way. Be grateful for what you get and hush up with the complaining.

I can see where people are coming from with the damaged or need to return. Honestly though, I think if you make sure it works, got a little camera case for it and wrapped it up all up it would be a wonderful gift and the person getting it shouldn't be upset if they can't return it. It's a gift.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:03:54 PM
I purchased a couple second hand items for my kiddos through the years, including this year. We bought used GeoTracks for my son and I plan to clean them up and just set them out. Less garbage for me to deal with that morning too



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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:04:34 PM
I hate waste.

I hate to see perfectly good items thrown away.

So I would have no problem whatsoever with someone giving a second hand item to my child. At least then I'd know that item was getting full use out of its "life".

Now, granted, I would hope the gift giver would be sure the item works first, of course. But as long as it is in good working order, I don't care if someone else owned it first. We'd toss the box out anyway, and instructions for nearly everything are online now.

I'd be happy you wanted to give a gift to my kid. End of story.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:08:30 PM
Well damn I guess your children wouldn't like the gift I bought for my neice. A retired like new American Girl Doll for $50, that I just sent off to get hearing aids as she wears them. She has been dying for an AG doll and since my bro and sis in law and watching their money to get a house, I am getting her one. And Im certainly not going to spend $105 plus for a brand new doll when this once is pristine amd super nice.

I say get a cute camera bag, chip (if it uses one) and pit it in a cute box.



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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:19:33 PM
I am going to be judgemental as well.

I am really surprised how many people would be bothered. surprised in a not so good way actually

I think having that attitude is a real shame and totally ruins the whole idea of what a gift is. I hate the idea of people passing that attitude on to their kids.

it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:34:08 PM
I wouldn't GIVE a used item as a gift to anyone outside of people who livd in this house with me. Mostly because I want people to feel comfortable doing whatever they want with my gifts, whether that's using it, returning it, exchanging it, throwing it away ... whatever. After I give it, I don't judge what you do with it. I just hope I can give you something that is useful to you in some way and not a burden -- I.e. something you can't use but can't get rid of.

If I RECEIVED it and it was useful and I didn't need instructions or the box, etc., then fine. If not, yes, it would bother me.

We had family friends who always gave our kids second hand, broken, useless toys. I would rather they gave them nothing then give them things they are excited to open that we ultimately just threw away unused because nobody could figure them out. It's the thought that counts, but only when you put thought in there in the first place. Those gifts made us feel like they really disliked our kids.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:49:59 PM
I would wrap it all separately like you meant to do it without the packaging.



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Posted: 11/13/2012 1:12:08 PM

Well damn I guess your children wouldn't like the gift I bought for my neice. A retired like new American Girl Doll for $50, that I just sent off to get hearing aids as she wears them. She has been dying for an AG doll and since my bro and sis in law and watching their money to get a house, I am getting her one. And Im certainly not going to spend $105 plus for a brand new doll when this once is pristine amd super nice.


So you sent the doll back to American Girl to get hearing aids? Then AG will have record of the doll and the hearing aids (which by the way I think is lovely of you to do!)

An American Girl Doll will most likely not "stop working" nor does it come with instructions and a warranty as would something electronic. And with an AG doll if you get it messed up you typically pay to have it fixed by AG. There is one main company who would have to be dealt with. It is totally different with a camera.

Lots of people have explained non-rude reasons why they would not give that type of gift. I prefer to give gifts with gift receipts so that if the child already has it or it breaks it can be dealt with by the parents and not need anybody else to help.


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Posted: 11/13/2012 1:29:19 PM
I wouldn't be bothered by it.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 2:58:43 PM
I thought "Not a problem. I wouldn't care."

But I made a few assumptions:

I assume you are buying it now.
I assume when you get it, you will check it out, play with it, make sure it works.
I assume if it doesn't, you will return it or whatnot before the child (or parents) even know it exists.
I assume that if it works fine, you will put it in something cute to give DN. Not just chuck it at her and say "Here you go".

Yes, the camera could manage to break itself between when you check it out and Christmas Day. But it is unlikely. And it could also depend on the type of camera.

But then again, we aren't picky at my house. If it works, great! We
actually take things out of boxes often before giving them to kids.

We charge them.
We put fresh good batteries in it, not the cheap ones that came in the package (If any)
We add the stinkin' stickers that have very small spots to go.
And yes, we do make sure it works.

Thus, even brand new items don't come in packages from our house typically. But so far, no one has batted an eye. In fact, we've seen the opposite: parents who are thrilled not to have to pull out screwdrivers to put in batteries, or find batteries, or try to hold their kids off while they get the present in working order.

MIL has been the recipient of both a used camera (with a brand new memory card and case)and a used iPod (charged, with her music preloaded, and iTunes set up on her computer ready to go). She hasn't thought anything of it, and has been grateful for a gift that she couldn't buy herself, and her family couldn't afford new for her.


Courtney
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Just my humble opinion. And no, I wasn't being mean.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 3:11:12 PM
nope..as long as it works.

and I would buy a camera bag to put it in, and a gift card to order prints.

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Posted: 11/13/2012 3:33:18 PM

You seriously don't see a difference between a doll that is highly unlikely to be defective and unable to be used for the intended purpose, and a camera that may develop a defect and the complexities of going to the gifter and asking her to return it and get a new one? Sure the ebay seller will take it back, but will they just refund her money? Will they repair or replace it? How long will that take? How long is the return policy good for? Equivalent to a warranty on a new camera?

It's not the 'not new' part that bothers some of us, it's the nature of the not new gift and the risk of it needing repair or replacement.


returning something can be an issue whether it was in the original packaging or not.

as far as developing a defect, many things can't be returned more than a week or two after they are purchased.

I think anyone that looks a gift horse in the mouth (assuming the persons intentions were good) is both selfish and tacky

makes me think a lot of folks need to go back and review exactly what "value" a gift has or should have.



-Kerry


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Posted: 11/13/2012 4:31:46 PM
Wouldn't bother me, as long as it had all of the instructions/cords or whatnot with it.

Sometimes the packaging is a pain to get through, so it would be perfectly fine with me if I didn't have to go through all that. Heck, when the kids were really little, we LOVED it if someone took the time to put the toy together so we didn't have too!!

Maybe make sure it's all the way charged and ready to use, and if they ask any questions tell them that you wanted the kid to be able to use it right away & that it worked.








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