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Posted: 11/14/2012 10:48:00 AM
Only four presidents in the past century have won re-election with 50%+ of the popular vote after having won by the same margin on their first election: Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama.

I'm okay with that.


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Posted: 11/14/2012 10:51:16 AM

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Posted: 11/14/2012 10:52:38 AM
That is something to be proud of...



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Posted: 11/14/2012 11:06:07 AM
Pretty impressive!

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Posted: 11/14/2012 11:19:35 AM


That most beloved by some, poll, Rasussen, shows that President Obama has a 54% approval rating as of today.




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Posted: 11/14/2012 3:40:55 PM


That is something to be proud of...




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Posted: 11/14/2012 3:48:40 PM
That is wonderful news, tfs.




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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:01:34 PM
Hey! Just remember though.....it was NOT a divisive win....he just barely got re-elected.





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Posted: 11/14/2012 5:26:48 PM

Only four presidents in the past century have won re-election with 50%+ of the popular vote after having won by the same margin on their first election: Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama.

And the only president in a century and a half who won re-election and actually lost percentage of voters rather than gained. And not only did he lose percentage of voters, he lost in number of voters as well.

Having had 69.5 million votes (52.87% of the vote) in his first election, getting only 62.6 million (50.6% of the vote) isn't impressive.



Hey! Just remember though.....it was NOT a divisive win....he just barely got re-elected

Yep. You are right, 50.6% of the vote isn't even close to being divisive. Didn't even beat George W Bush's second term results.







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Posted: 11/14/2012 5:56:52 PM

And the only president in a century and a half who won re-election and actually lost percentage of voters rather than gained. And not only did he lose percentage of voters, he lost in number of voters as well.

Having had 69.5 million votes (52.87% of the vote) in his first election, getting only 62.6 million (50.6% of the vote) isn't impressive.
I'm confused. Based on your own stats, and the OP, isn't the fall-off explained simply by the outsized vote in the first election? Moreover, the problem with the "only president... who won re-election and actually lost percentage of the voters" - I mean, usually with the thin margins we have, if you lose percentage of the voters, you don't get re-elected, right?


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Posted: 11/14/2012 6:23:57 PM

I'm confused. Based on your own stats, and the OP, isn't the fall-off explained simply by the outsized vote in the first election?

No it's not, because he lost more in percentage, than the decrease in number of voters. If it was just the turnout being different (and not the percentage), he should have had 65,499,879 votes, but he only got 62,711,814 votes.


Moreover, the problem with the "only president... who won re-election and actually lost percentage of the voters" - I mean, usually with the thin margins we have, if you lose percentage of the voters, you don't get re-elected, right?

Yes, usually you don't, which is why the whole 50% of the vote twice isn't impressive or really something to be proud of, because he actually lost number and percentage of voters.

And actually since they started keeping track in 1824, only Andrew Jackson and Obama decreased in percentage of popular vote, and only Obama decreased in both percentage and number of voters without actually having lost.

All other presidents who won a second term, won with an increase in percentage of voters and number of voters), Obama is the only one who didn't.






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Posted: 11/14/2012 7:11:36 PM
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Posted: 11/14/2012 7:23:43 PM
and he needed rigged machines and nonexistent people for that.




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Posted: 11/14/2012 7:25:26 PM
and he needed rigged machines and nonexistent people for that.




"A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education."
- President Theodore Roosevelt

On June 28, 1787, as Governor of Pennsylvania, Benjamin Franklin hosted the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, where he moved:

"That henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning."

Franklin wrote April 17, 1787:

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

Benjamin Franklin wrote his epitaph:

"THE BODY of BENJAMIN FRANKLIN - Printer. Like the cover of an old book, Its contents torn out, And stripped of its lettering and gilding, Lies here, food for worms; Yet the work itself shall not be lost, For it will (as he believed) appear once more, In a new, And more beautiful edition, Corrected and amended By The AUTHOR."

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Posted: 11/14/2012 7:26:00 PM
So would the machines still be rigged and the percentage of popular vote be unimpressive if Romney had won?


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Posted: 11/14/2012 10:18:05 PM

So would the machines still be rigged and the percentage of popular vote be unimpressive if Romney had won?


Of course, not. Only liberals cheat.


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Posted: 11/14/2012 10:46:53 PM
A win, is a win, is a win. Obama won, Romney lost - easy peasy


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Posted: 11/14/2012 11:58:03 PM
I don't see anything to be proud of on either side right now. We are in a hot mess and appear to lack the leadership to get us back on track. I pray I am wrong.

And no one said the electoral votes were close ... They weren't - but the popular vote was and the country is divided. My county Romney won hands down- but that really doesn't matter now does it? So why all the constant bragging from the Dems? We won! Yes, your preferred president won - but sadly- many of us are on the losing end for anther 4 years.

I just worry what we are leaving for our children... Should I just tell them "but but he supported gay marriage" and that will make it all good when they are riddled with debt, inflation, foreign ownership, and who knows what?

Again - I am continually praying for Obama's leadership to be successful, but the track record scares me.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:32:26 AM

and he needed rigged machines and nonexistent people for that.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 5:47:32 AM
We're about to go over the fiscal cliff due to your stubborn pres...nothing to be proud of!

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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:04:02 AM
go away poopie heads...let us have at least till January 20th to celebrate. We know Obama has to step up; it's just nice to know that, after all the BS about electoral vs. popular, that he took BOTH.

Good luck, President Obama.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:32:05 AM
You know, I know it shouldn't be funny, but the post-election rhetoric cracks me up on a daily basis. Every day there's some new "He didn't win fairly" or "He lost because of (insert conspiracy here)" or "I can't believe my country voted/didn't for my candidate because he's the bestest thing EVER and the opponent is a completely loser." or "The country is DOOMED. DOOMED I SAY" or whatever. Seriously, I hated the election before the election actually happened but the outcome is amazingly entertaining. You guys are really passionate about your elections. Most of us Canadians are too cynical to do anything other than say, "same shit, different name, different suit". But we do not seem to revere our politicians the way you do. So it's entertaining.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 6:37:37 AM

and he needed rigged machines and nonexistent people for that.
Evidence, please - or acknowledgement that this is unfounded conjecture. Either one...


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