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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:06:50 AM
board in "it"?

I'm seeing post after post of things that have no purpose other than "ha ha" and even jokes about the fact that some Peas are gloating.

It seems to me that the intent is to keep the divisiveness going and mash the face of fellow peas in the mud.

I can understand it happening right after the election but at this point, it seems very mean spirited.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:27:48 AM
Well seeing obama and biden have been doing it the past year. It really doesnt surprise me.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:29:27 AM
I'm having a really hard time taking you seriously when you're one of the frothers yourself. Really Lauren, really?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:30:42 AM
You've admitted you like to piss people off here just for the sake of your own entertainment. Yet you have to ask-like you don't understand?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:37:49 AM
So, you're saying that you do it to intentionally piss off those voted for Romney?

Well have it then. Excuse me for getting in the way of your being an asshole. If hurting people like Jody is your idea of "fun", it says more about you than it probably hurts people like her.






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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:40:27 AM
Because some people are assholes when it comes to politics. On both sides.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:40:31 AM
I shouldn't post, but I will. I'm seeing it from both sides. Gloating and sore losers both. Don't complain about one and give the other a pass.




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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:41:10 AM
**said in my best conciliatory Rodney King voice**

"Can't we all just get along?"


Let's join hands across the Pea aisle and sing a few rounds of kumbaya.

I'll start...



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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:48:16 AM

board in "it"?

I'm seeing post after post of things that have no purpose other than "ha ha" and even jokes about the fact that some Peas are gloating.

It seems to me that the intent is to keep the divisiveness going and mash the face of fellow peas in the mud.

I can understand it happening right after the election but at this point, it seems very mean spirited.


I am not a sore loser...and I have no idea about a "frother" but it is bothering me too.

I hope that all of you are right and Obama is the best president ever. I will graciously admit that I was wrong. However, making a mockery of my beliefs isn't helping me see your side at all. In fact, it makes me want to just stay away from here and closes down all communication.

I enjoy a good political debate but we have passed that point and now it is childish.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:53:02 AM
YOU are the one who called people stupid on your other thread and you are saying people are rubbing YOUR noses in it?

I haven't rubbed anyone nose in the results of this election but for some of you to act like innocent victims is absolutely ASTOUNDING







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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:56:57 AM
I've read my OP here, and I don't see any place I specfically refer to you, Kerry? Can you point it out?

If not, your comments of "I don't do it" are irrelevant since the OP obviously doesn't apply to YOU.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:00:36 AM
I like tacos.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:00:40 AM
Lauren, I have always held my tongue where you are concerned but

"pot meet kettle"

You have been rubbing things in everyone else's face as long as I can remember. When things don't go your way then you cry uncle and say that you have been wronged? REALLY?

You are the worst offender of them all.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:03:22 AM
The winners vs losers posts dont really bother me. They are irrelevant. We could all be considered losers in the next four years. Only time will tell.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:05:35 AM

I like tacos.


Nachos are better.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:06:41 AM
OK, so I'm the worst offender of all.

The fact is, though, in this instance, I haven't really been involved in the whole political brouhaha this year. So the people that it's happening to are people other than "me".

And since people here often say "two wrongs don't make right", then doesn't it seem that even if "I" have done it in the past is no excuse for others doing it now? Or, like most things, is it OK when people you agree with do it but not OK when those you disagree do it?

If someone other than me made the observation, would it make the question any more or less accurate? Or are you using the fact that "I'm" making the observation an excuse to dismiss it out of hand because you really don't want to consider the observation itself because it just might make you acknowledge your own poor behavior?





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:07:51 AM
Maureen, that's SO like a Republican. I happen to ENJOY tacos.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:11:28 AM
Is there a reason why you're doing this Stephanie? If you don't want to be involved in the thread, don't.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:11:43 AM

Maureen, that's SO like a Republican. I happen to ENJOY tacos.


Of course you do, everyone knows that Tacos are part of the Liberal agenda.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:11:57 AM
I think that tacos will go down in history as being one of the greatest foods ever.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:13:32 AM

I think that tacos will go down in history as being one of the greatest foods ever.


+1

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:14:26 AM
I'd skip the tacos and the nachos and go straight for the margaritas.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:15:33 AM
Well, now MARGARITAS. I think that's something that we can all get behind and put the whole taco/nacho debate to bed.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:16:47 AM
And Maureen, tacos are part of the "I Like Tacos" agenda. They're just THAT good.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:17:00 AM
I never said you were referring to me-in fact I am quite confident you were not talking to me since I haven't participated in any nose rubbing behavior regarding the election.

but, I see the holidays are just around the corner and the stress is clearly starting to get to "some" folks. it causes people to spend far too much time looking for the splinter in someone else's eye while ignoring the plank in their own.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:18:38 AM
I love tacos, but ate nachos for dinner last night and really enjoyed them (true story!).

What does that make me???

I think everyone has rubbed everyone's noses in everything.

The real question now is, how do we move forward? How do we transition from two opposing viewpoints back into the UNITED States??? Can it even be done?

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:18:44 AM
"Serious Question: why are some of you so intent on rubbing the noses of the Republicans on the"

two words: bush years.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:20:01 AM

Well, now MARGARITAS. I think that's something that we can all get behind and put the whole taco/nacho debate to bed.
Except that then we have the orignal vs. flavored margarita debate to get some mileage out of.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:21:11 AM
Tracey, I don't think people want to try to come together. I think too many liberals enjoy taunting the "losers" and I think there are some sore losers.

In the end, it's more of the same. And as one poster wrote, the taunting stops being "fun" when the situation interferes with their own personal relationships. Prior to that, it's all great. I wonder how many of the taunting Peas will be oh so full of sympathy if the situation ends up destroying Mergeleft's marriage. The height of hypocrisy but I'm sure if this happens many of the people on this thread talking about tacos in an attempt to derail the thread will be right there with (((hugs)) and "I'm so sorry" ignoring the fact that they are part of the problem.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:21:16 AM


I like tacos.



Nachos are better.


I love chimichangas. I love saying chimichangas. I spilled a whole pan of chimichangas on the kitchen floor. The dog ate them. We ordered pizza that night.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:21:24 AM
Don't engage Lauren. Then they will have nothing better to do than to go back to their "secret" Left Leaning Pea board and high five each other. And eventually, they will have no one to pick off but themselves. We've seen it happen before and it will happen again.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:22:03 AM

Well, now MARGARITAS. I think that's something that we can all get behind and put the whole taco/nacho debate to bed.


I'll cross any aisle for a margarita...


Except that then we have the orignal vs. flavored margarita debate to get some mileage out of.



Not to mention frozen or over ice....

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:23:22 AM
This is just my opinion...

This is the first election where the internet and social media have played such a large part in the election and leading up to it. In part it was a good thing because I would hope that it made more people feel involved and educated about the candidates. In part is was a bad thing because it was filled with strong opinions and people who sometimes forget that even over the internet, they are taking to a real person on the other end.

Frankly I see both sides; Obama supporters who are happy and sometimes menaly gloating and Romeny supporters who are upset and sometimes saying mean things about Obama supports being dumb, wrong, etc.

I think because of the socail media and internet, people felt more involved and therefore, a loss is harder and a win is much better (if that makes sense).

I wish that the Obama supporters would not gloat for gloating sake because it's just not nice and it perpetuates the us against them. And I wish the Romney supports would stop saying that the other side will see how wrong they are/dumb they are because it again continues the us against them mentality.

The fact of the matter is that like congress needs to figure out how to work together, the US population needs to figure out how to work toether. How can we expect Congress to compromise when we can't?



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:23:54 AM
You're right, BF. I'll simply address the people who are speaking about the thread topic and leave the others to their "fun".





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:26:46 AM
I don't drink. So the margaritas are a affront to my agenda.



Lauren, I think elections make everyone feel like they need midol. And then some take the midol, and others don't. And they should.

And I make that statement as a general one, not inferring party lines on either side.

Maybe margaritas ARE the answer.

We had an election with two highly differing agendas.

Obama won, but at a 52/48 split, it just seems to me that a middle ground does not exist. And where does that leave us?


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:27:01 AM
Is Obama giving out free tacos????




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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:27:07 AM

Maureen, that's SO like a Republican. I happen to ENJOY tacos.


Of course you do, everyone knows that Tacos are part of the Liberal agenda.


Screw you both, I'm want fajitas.


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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:33:22 AM


Bisquick Taco Bake recipe:

1 pound lean ground beef
1 medium onion, chopped (1/2 cup)
1 package (1 ounce) Old El Paso® taco seasoning mix
1 can (16 ounces) tomato sauce
1 can (15.25 ounces) Green Giant® whole kernel corn
2 cups shredded Cheddar or process American cheese (8 ounces)
2 cups Original Bisquick® mix
1 cup milk
2 eggs
Sour cream, chopped tomato and shredded lettuce, if desired


Heat oven to 325ºF. Grease rectangular pan, 13x9x2 inches..

Cook ground beef and onion in 10-inch skillet, stirring frequently, until beef is brown; drain. Stir in dry seasoning mix, tomato sauce and corn. Spoon into pan; sprinkle with cheese. Stir Bisquick mix, milk and eggs until smooth. Pour over beef mixture.

Bake about 35 minutes or until knife inserted in center comes out clean. Cool 10 minutes before cutting. Serve with remaining ingredients.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:34:11 AM

I shouldn't post, but I will. I'm seeing it from both sides. Gloating and sore losers both. Don't complain about one and give the other a pass.

ITA How many posts have there been regarding tax hikes, budget issues, stock market reports, etc. since the election? Those are merely thinly-veiled "this is all Obama's fault and never would have happened if Romney won" posts.

And fajitas are definitely better than both tacos and nachos. Margaritas trump them all, however.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:34:45 AM


Maureen, that's SO like a Republican. I happen to ENJOY tacos.


Of course you do, everyone knows that Tacos are part of the Liberal agenda.



Screw you both, I'm want fajitas.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:35:02 AM

It seems that only when one finds themselves 'sleeping with the enemy', like MergeLeft, that it becomes not such a funny game anymore.


I could be misremembering, but I don't believe I enganged in "taunting" even before it became an issue at home. Argument, yes. Taunting, I don't think so. (I'm sure someone has a spreadsheet somewhere that will prove me wrong, but I hope not.)

Good news is that DH has calmed down a bit and we're carrying on here in Texas. Which will not, I hope, be seceding from the union any time soon.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:35:53 AM

Or are you using the fact that "I'm" making the observation an excuse to dismiss it out of hand because you really don't want to consider the observation itself because it just might make you acknowledge your own poor behavior?
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I think you have your answer based on the non-answers given.

The whole mentality of "the other side is an enemy and it's fun to watch them upset and make them more upset" is a serious problem in this country, from the highest office in the land to the voters.



Funny you asked that Lauren, I was wondering the same thing as I read the very few real answers.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:37:46 AM

ITA How many posts have there been regarding tax hikes, budget issues, stock market reports, etc. since the election? Those are merely thinly-veiled "this is all Obama's fault and never would have happened if Romney won" posts.



I see your point but at least that type of post can generate education and discussion. I have learned a lot from posts like these but the other kind of posts that are just mocking.....well they just put me off.

However, everyone is free to post what they want....I can just choose to either not open it or not sign onto to TwoPeas.



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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:44:38 AM
I love margarita's, nachos & taco's - where is the party?

I find this a bit disingenuous in light of the threads that Lauren posted during the election season how she was staying above it all - a bit holier than thou. Then she jumps back in with two feet now - just incredible.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:46:21 AM

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses.[Note 1][1] People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. For example, in reading about gun control, people usually prefer sources that affirm their existing attitudes. They also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and memory have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a greater reliance on information encountered early in a series) and illusory correlation (when people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations).

A series of experiments in the 1960s suggested that people are biased toward confirming their existing beliefs. Later work re-interpreted these results as a tendency to test ideas in a one-sided way, focusing on one possibility and ignoring alternatives. In certain situations, this tendency can bias people's conclusions. Explanations for the observed biases include wishful thinking and the limited human capacity to process information. Another explanation is that people show confirmation bias because they are weighing up the costs of being wrong, rather than investigating in a neutral, scientific way.

Confirmation biases contribute to overconfidence in personal beliefs and can maintain or strengthen beliefs in the face of contrary evidence. Poor decisions due to these biases have been found in military, political, and organizational contexts.




With all due respect I think above applies to you Lauren.

I have been reading most of the threads since the election and was pleased there were not that many comments about Romney from the Obama supporters. I knew there would be sour grapes from the Romney folks and that is to be expected because their guy lost. But what I was not expecting to see was the nastiness by some Romney supporters toward the Obama supporters on this board.

Of course it doesn't help that Romney himself is in denial about what happened on election day and just insulted the voters who voted for the President instead of him. But whatever.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:48:37 AM

People who care deeply about someone hurting about the election, like you, will not find it funny to taunt and spike the football at all, much less for weeks on end, because there are real people and real fears out there, not just a bunch of nuts who deserve to be made fun of for those fears.


I think the issue is that some fears are legitimate, taxes going up in January, real fear for many families that are already struggling. However, you have to admit, that there are also a bunch of Chick Littles running around waiting for the sky to fall. It's hard to take "fear" seriously when you see posts about G-d forsaking our country simply because Obama was re-elected.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:48:50 AM
NightOwl - people have been "taunting" for WEEKS on end?

I don't think Karl Rove had finished "re-counting" and people were already saying:

"Hey! Fine! You guys won .. Stop gloating!!!"

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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:52:55 AM

I think too many liberals enjoy taunting the "losers" and I think there are some sore losers.



Some also do not truly comprehend who are the real losers. What happens to all the "give me give me give me's" when the pot runs dry? Most business owners are cutting back now. Several people are getting ready to get the pink slip - most have the attitude that they are "owed" this job even though they have a poor work ethic, little education and no motivation.




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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:54:18 AM
I mainly think it's foolish to ascribe motives to other people's words. That does no more to heal the divide than anything else people are being accused of here.


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